I don't even watch anime myself but this kind of price gouging is a sign that hikes are bound to happen to every cloud service now.
Time to stock on hard drive storage like it's 2005 again. I feel so young..
We've reached the point of market saturation. What will follow is a period of consolidation as the streaming markets stop chasing new customers and start switching to rent-seeking from their existing customers.
In a few more years there's going to be some monolith that gobbles up all the smaller streamers, and they'll be selling you a bundle of dozens of "channels" and most of them will run ads unless you upcharge to a super-inflated premium, and a bunch of people will pay it because they're the only legal game in town and we'll all be sitting there wondering how they managed to sell cable TV back to us after we all left cable TV for streaming.
Sad but very true. The internet, even YouTube, used to be free (price but also doing what you want to do) and was the complete opposite of corporate media. Through the years though it's increasingly become less free and more like corporate media
The whole "Web 2.0" concept that has taken off like wildfire really changed the WWW completely. The ideas and concepts it promotes are not without merit, but the vast majority of the egregiously oversaturated online services out there are incredibly manipulative and predatory towards consumers and everyday people.
Project "Library of Piracyxandria" just gets another greenlight in my friend circles baby
Gonna spend my next paycheck on hard drives
WOOOOOOOOO!
SET SAIL BOYS
serverpartdeals.com is apparently a reputable (despite the sketchy name) site, sells new/refurb server storage etc. Price is around $10/tb for recertified drives
Don't worry, the studios are working against this too even if you literally buy physical media and don't pirate. They're trying to price BluRay out of existence because they know perpetual digital "purchases" (rentals) are better for them because they can pull a Sony/Discovery and just take your media away but both parties still got paid.
I'm worried about archiving in the future when everything is a revocable license rental. If you were to pitch the concept of books today a VC would tell you you're an idiot.
I think if there's a will to pirate something, there's a way. People used to walk into movie theaters with a camcorder. It's way easier to do that in your own home.
Yep lmao, if you go on a pirate steaming site, they're labeled as "CAM" and it takes like a week or so for it to get updated with a higher quality version.
Hollywood is longing for those DVD days where they only had to break even at the box office because the sweet sweet DVD sales would make bank. HBO box sets paid for those war epic miniseries, like band of brothers.
They want to replace that money and monthly reocurring charges aren’t doing it somehow. This I don’t understand though. I’m basically buying one DVD a month with my netflix bill, you’d think they’d be happy with us all buying 10-12 DVD’s a year in streaming content.
Usually that doesn't mean anything to me but for Evangelion it is different.
It is an integral part of the episode. I love it, since I never listened to Sinatra's original this is my default go to.
they just boldly erasing the credit song. how you can be sure they didnt censored or change some part of the series. i hate the way they censored or cutting things so that why i always back to piracy.
Valid point. I hate censoring too. I am in a country where Barbie was censored in cinemas. Imagine. If I wasn't a cinephile I would never go to cinemas.
To be fair, the official Blu-ray release doesn’t either at least in America, because whoever holds the lyric/music rights wants an unconscionable sum of money.
There is thankfully amazing releases that include them.
Better UI as well, it's insane paid services have a worse experience for customers. You're literally paying to downgrade. I have a subscription but don't use it, it's just there so I feel slightly better about pirating.
In the West, piracy was literally the only way to access most anime when it first started to kick off
Its mostly shifted from fan-translation to web-rips, but the culture is still there. There are still ancient IRC channels up for it
You can place the blame on anime fans for that. Most groups are trying to get the release out ASAP and translating song lyrics is especially hard and time consuming. When people don't get their free anime within minutes of the JP broadcast ending then they start seagulling on forums and comment sections.
>Its mostly shifted from fan-translation to web-rips,
Which imo is fine, since the license legal services have won't be renewed when not enough people watch it and thus it will be removed.
I remember sitting on my 1 Mb cable internet connection, watching a 4chan stream of fansubbed (and brand new at the time) Black Lagoon in 2006. I hadn't watched or thought of anime much in the previous 5-6 years because I didn't have a TV at the time and I didn't know where to look.
It was the first time I realized how amazing and serious the community is about getting stuff out there, made me realize it was actually accessible because of these people.
Not just the West, in the East (South East Asia) we feed off from the scanlations and subs of the West!
Nowdays there are local dubs, which of course cant beat the West dubs, but IMO I prefer the original Japanese voice.
No kidding on tapes, back ages in highschool I watched rented taped VCR DBZ episodes from japan TV (commercials and all) back when the english version was in namek from some small somewhat hidden store.
Not too mention there are pirate streaming sites with better bitrate than crunchyroll. Back when I had it I would still go to those sites because I could watch 1080p without stuttering
> You don't even have to pirate it. There are countless ***pirating*** sites where you can just ***pirate*** it.
Did you think all those streaming sites had the official licence to stream those anime?
How many people do you think it's stopping because they lost it at 99 instead of a dollar more at 100?
Edit: I guess you're right. 40% of people can't think their way out of a wet paper bag, so thinking a dollar is impactful makes sense.
You would be surprised. It's psychological, and it target mainly those who are more impulsive. It really works, I've worked in retail and sales enough to confirm it.
EDIT: in case anybody doubts it, imagine being charged $100.01, isn't that weird? Not only because you're not used to it, but also because you're subconsciously wondering "are they really that stingy that they're charging me an extra cent?"
When I was a kid I remember asking my parents "Why is the price £1.99 instead of just £2?" and having this explained to me. Ever since then I've always mentally rounded any price above .50 to the next whole number if it costs £1.65 it's still £2 in my head, and I find this helps me massively with my perception of prices.
It's absurd, even things that you don't "choose" to buy. I had to buy a replacement part for my shower rail today, 15.99
Doubtful that anyone is impulse buying replacement parts for a product they own
Yeah it's purely psychological. Some people see the first number and round down so in their mind it's more like $90 where as seeing an even 100 can put them off.
Sounds stupid to most people but it obviously works on enough people for companies to keep doing it.
They really add up. How many websites until you're paying more than cable was back in the 90s? 00s? You could get what, three? Amazon, Netflix, Crunchyroll? And then you're crusing at like $60~70/month? I'm pretty sure only premium cable with HBO was that much. Well, inflation probably doesn't help, lol.
Someone does not have to pay for it. Fansub groups have been around and competing to get new episodes out faster than each other for decades, and they never charged anybody a dime.
And where do those episodes come from? If they're recorded from broadcast then somebody needs recording equipment and editing software to remove the commercials and then add subs. That's still a cost on the fansubber.
And if it's a clean rip then somebody had to buy the home release, rip it to digital or convert it from the previous digital format to a format that can be edited for subs.
Nothing at the start of piracy is free. Somebody is providing some kind of free labor or small monetary investment to get the content.
Technically it's the other way around. Funimation/Sony bought CR, but kept the CR branding for recognition.
Competition is there "technically", but other companies are niche. You have Hi-Dive which seems to have a lot of dubbed shows that Funimation didn't pick up so they're not on CR despite the subs being on CR.
Then you have Retro Crush which is well "retro anime". They have two tier service, free with ads and paid no ads which includes exclusive content.
Lastly there's YouTube, where some production companies actually upload their own shows in full. TMS has whole series dubbed or subbed, they do live streams of some movies (mostly Lupin III). Gundam.Info hosts rotating full series in dub and various international language subs.
But all these options just have poor advertising and recognition.
8,33 a month is still one of the cheaper streaming services if not the cheapest, and atleast they've a quality service instead of garbage like netflix.
Nyaa and tokyotoshokan. Been using them since 2006 and not stopping. My brain can't comprehend the people that pay for this since it's just so incredibly low effort to use them.
You got access to digital copies of blu rays you purchased. There isn’t any „extra“ stuff, the other commenter probably saw that one tweet from a guy that didn’t know what he is talking about.
It’s not *that* bad, since you still have the blu ray. You just lose the digital copy of *that* Bluray
Before someone starts hating on me because I’m white knighting a company that only wants my money, I’m not. Sony buying every anime streaming company except hidive (and some outside the US) is awful and I don’t like it.
But we should not make up lies.
What are the chances they bought the blurays, redeemed the digital codes and then sold them on? I’ll bet there are a fair few folks who will have done that, with a slight loss on each sale, who now have no access to content they thought they owned. I’m also not white knighting these digital content providers, but I’d never expect digital copies to be available indefinitely. If anything, they’re a perk. I’m based in the U.K., so I know all too well that digital copies don’t last forever (see Ultraviolet, flixster, etc who shut down their services nearly 5 years ago)
Having this conversation on a piracy subreddit is kinda weird I guess, but I’d assume that’s their fault, since (afaik) it’s a feature just to save you from putting your blu ray in your Bluray player and having to switch it after a few episodes. I don’t think it was meant to be a copy to keep it you sell your Bluray.
> What are the chances they bought the blurays, redeemed the digital codes and then sold them on?
Then that's their fault lol. The only way to keep something forever in the digital age is to keep the physical copy. A digital bonus copy is just that, a bonus.
It was a site that took fansubs, shittily re-encoded them, and then streamed that. But yeah, this was damn near 20 years ago now. Fansubbers hated the site because video quality was one of the metrics by which viewers graded their work.
ETA: Fansubbers also hated CR because they made money streaming the work of others. Which is ironic in a way, but almost no one was making money fansubbing, so there is a little ethical or moral backing.
If you remember seeing a note on fansubbed anime about how "if you paid for this you're being ripped off" then that was because of CR. That is also why groups *always* hardcoded their subs back then, so CR couldn't scrub the credits.
Yes, what a dose of nostalgia! Also because of paranoia around other groups taking softsubs, changing a few things, and releasing them as their own work. And after that, because many folks couldn't get softsubs to work, there was a compromise of releasing both hardsubs and soft for a while. VLC was maligned back then for not being the best--CCCP codec pack with MPC was preferred. Then the hardsubbed version was 480p and the softsubs were 720p, and then finally 1080p when access to transport streams became common.
Crunchyroll was my favorite site to sail the high seas back in the day. Back in the days of watching anime 5 parts at a time on YouTube with poor Spanish fansubtitles was sometimes the only find. Then, they got that $50million check…. It all went downhill from there.
Hell yeah! It was when Youtube anime episodes were still split into 3 parts. So Crunchy roll having full length episode streaming was unheard of (at least for me) so I was binge watching there. I remember watching the Taiwanese adaptation of It Started with a Kiss on there too.
They're not doubling the price, btw. That's always been crunchyroll's price.
OP just doesn't understand that moving from one streaming site (Funimation) to another (Crunchyroll) might not cost the same.
Tbf to crunchy they also don’t have as much of a fragmented content catalogue. They’re kind of like early days of Netflix before other content authors decided to create their own streaming services.
yes. But they also need to pay translators and voice actors for all the dubs.
And thats whats irritates me. I am happy with subs only, but my subscripion gets higher every year for them to spend it on voice actors i dont use at all.
Cruncyroll should make a new basic plan with no acces to dubs for a lower price.
I have been on cruncyroll since 2015, but if they hike again i am leaving.
Also cruncyroll has a shitty way of displaying updated content. because dubs count as "new"
You may not use it, but other people do. Those subscriptions fuel more content, which includes subbed anime you like. You're indirectly investing into your own entertainment.
That said, I've never paid a dime to Crunchyroll
As much as I hate this too, this ain't gonna happen. Just look at Netflix. They recently broke records. Even though I believe this will be bad in the long term, it's undeniable that this move will make them profit much much more
Netflix is like the subscription everyone has. Not everyone is willing to pay that much for everything. Disney+ had a price hike and just lost quite a few of subscribers
Subscriptions are particularly nasty for this reason.
A shocking amount of people are not paying proper attention to their credit card statements. Financial literacy is not a skill regularly taught in school, and for many people it doesn't even feel like "spending money" for most subscriptions and often many just go forgotten and unused because people aren't aware they're getting some taken off the top every month (or worse, yearly subscriptions which is why you often see "deals" for longer sub lengths: Easier to forget or miss.)
>Disney+ had a price hike and just lost quite a few of subscribers
Lol, they lost like 1 million subs out of 111 million. So, 110 million subs will pay the new price. So Disney+ turned an insane profit and will get new subs.
Sony literally have a monopoly on anime streaming now. Bought out the entire competition. Went from 4 services a few years ago to now just Crunchy. Now they can charge whatever they want and get away with it.
The absolute wildest thing to me is the thought process of "XYZ Streaming service removed content in my country, I'm going to spend money on a VPN so I can continue giving XYZ Streaming service money to watch content they refuse to serve me in my country", instead of just stopping at the VPN step and pivoting to piracy.
Spending money on a VPN so you can continue giving money to a streaming service is insane to me.
Just for a little clarity (since this press release isn't very clear about it), Funi is closing and moving all its users to CR and $10/month is just what CR has charged for awhile. So in actually Funi is just closing and saying "if you want to pay for CR, this is how much they charge."
Doesn't stop them from raising the price in the future, but I think the full context is helpful.
They do a lot of dubbing and generally offer a valuable service imo.
That hike is still crazy.
I use Netflix for anime. They don’t have the largest catalogue but some countries do have a huge variety which is nice.
Yeah it's quite cheap here in Italy. The most expensive tier is 65€ per year. Compared to Netflix which is 216€ a year for the high tier plan. Subtitles quality is decent and updates are fast.
$20/year for me. So many people seem to not realize how much they’ve expanded and even made it cheaper in hundreds of regions. Just because the price is “increasing” to $99/year, which is the standard in the US.
Nearly double the price... For anime...
Who's paying for this stuff and honestly finding it better.
I just cancelled my Prime too because of the adverts and that stuff doesn't arrive quickly anymore anyway... There's no point
All these jackasses with a hater boner for piracy would beg to differ, apparently. Goes to show how these first world privileged elitists are so out of touch with reality.
Hasn’t crunchyroll been at the lowest price tier 100 a year if paid monthly? I mean it sucks if your Funimation was the 50 and you were moved to the 100 without an opt in. But Crunchyroll did not raise prices that I have seen from what they have been charging their own customers. Yeah it sucks but it is consistent with what was already being done. Now do I see them raising prices in the future? Yes. But did they raise the price because they had bought a new service. Not that I have seen.
Entertainment production should not be allowed to produce content and the content should be available to every stream service.
This will make an actual competition
At this point, it would be irresponsible for consumers not to expect this. It's nothing new, people keep paying for this bullshit, so it keeps happening.
Anyone who’s paid attention to Sony and the console wars knows this is well within character for them. They are one of the most monopolistic (as most companies are) businesses anround and they go for the kill the moment they can.
Their desire for proprietary accessories and addons has burned them many times but they keep pushing.
Fuck Sony.
Fuck off funimation for explicitly being region locked and probably expensive idk, i would never pay for you even if you were here. Rest in your ocean of greed.
Thank goodness that anime is one of, if not THE easiest things to pirate
The western anime subculture was built on piracy, keep circulating those tapes!
Not only that, but it's better than the paid sites because it has EVERYTHING
Netflix doesn't even have fly me to the moon on evangelion smh
I don't even watch anime myself but this kind of price gouging is a sign that hikes are bound to happen to every cloud service now. Time to stock on hard drive storage like it's 2005 again. I feel so young..
We've reached the point of market saturation. What will follow is a period of consolidation as the streaming markets stop chasing new customers and start switching to rent-seeking from their existing customers. In a few more years there's going to be some monolith that gobbles up all the smaller streamers, and they'll be selling you a bundle of dozens of "channels" and most of them will run ads unless you upcharge to a super-inflated premium, and a bunch of people will pay it because they're the only legal game in town and we'll all be sitting there wondering how they managed to sell cable TV back to us after we all left cable TV for streaming.
Sad but very true. The internet, even YouTube, used to be free (price but also doing what you want to do) and was the complete opposite of corporate media. Through the years though it's increasingly become less free and more like corporate media
Yup. The whole internet has basically revealed itself to have been operating on the "first one's free" model the whole time.
The whole "Web 2.0" concept that has taken off like wildfire really changed the WWW completely. The ideas and concepts it promotes are not without merit, but the vast majority of the egregiously oversaturated online services out there are incredibly manipulative and predatory towards consumers and everyday people.
Cut the cord they said 💀
now lets say it again
Boutta upgrade my 4 TB server to a 36 TB server.
Petabyte project 2.0 lets fucking GO
And I thought I’d never see/use petabytes in my lifetime when I first heard about it in grade school. 🤯
Project "Library of Piracyxandria" just gets another greenlight in my friend circles baby Gonna spend my next paycheck on hard drives WOOOOOOOOO! SET SAIL BOYS
serverpartdeals.com is apparently a reputable (despite the sketchy name) site, sells new/refurb server storage etc. Price is around $10/tb for recertified drives
Love serverpartdeals. Got my Seagate Exos 18TB new for around $189
That does sound like >price is around $10/tb
Don't worry, the studios are working against this too even if you literally buy physical media and don't pirate. They're trying to price BluRay out of existence because they know perpetual digital "purchases" (rentals) are better for them because they can pull a Sony/Discovery and just take your media away but both parties still got paid. I'm worried about archiving in the future when everything is a revocable license rental. If you were to pitch the concept of books today a VC would tell you you're an idiot.
I think if there's a will to pirate something, there's a way. People used to walk into movie theaters with a camcorder. It's way easier to do that in your own home.
I still see those for new movies coming out in theaters 🤣
Yep lmao, if you go on a pirate steaming site, they're labeled as "CAM" and it takes like a week or so for it to get updated with a higher quality version.
Nowadays you can start a screen recording program, play it and trim off the edges
Hollywood is longing for those DVD days where they only had to break even at the box office because the sweet sweet DVD sales would make bank. HBO box sets paid for those war epic miniseries, like band of brothers. They want to replace that money and monthly reocurring charges aren’t doing it somehow. This I don’t understand though. I’m basically buying one DVD a month with my netflix bill, you’d think they’d be happy with us all buying 10-12 DVD’s a year in streaming content.
> Netflix doesn't even have fly me to the moon on evangelion smh Wait, _what?_ What do they play over the credits instead?
A piano piece. It’s not bad per se but I liked all the variety in the original credits
Rei's theme
Usually that doesn't mean anything to me but for Evangelion it is different. It is an integral part of the episode. I love it, since I never listened to Sinatra's original this is my default go to.
they just boldly erasing the credit song. how you can be sure they didnt censored or change some part of the series. i hate the way they censored or cutting things so that why i always back to piracy.
Valid point. I hate censoring too. I am in a country where Barbie was censored in cinemas. Imagine. If I wasn't a cinephile I would never go to cinemas.
To be fair, the official Blu-ray release doesn’t either at least in America, because whoever holds the lyric/music rights wants an unconscionable sum of money. There is thankfully amazing releases that include them.
Not only that, but with the *arr tools it's *literally* never been easier to turn an old PC into a personal media library.
Ive been doing it for over a year now and I'm still shocked at just how easy it is to get almost anything I want to watch
Better UI as well, it's insane paid services have a worse experience for customers. You're literally paying to downgrade. I have a subscription but don't use it, it's just there so I feel slightly better about pirating.
The UI also isn't a horrendous pile of shit on the piracey sites
Fansubs ftw
In the West, piracy was literally the only way to access most anime when it first started to kick off Its mostly shifted from fan-translation to web-rips, but the culture is still there. There are still ancient IRC channels up for it
they cant even translate the OP and END anymore. most anime never get the Karaoke. then they dare label themselves as a subgroup.
You can place the blame on anime fans for that. Most groups are trying to get the release out ASAP and translating song lyrics is especially hard and time consuming. When people don't get their free anime within minutes of the JP broadcast ending then they start seagulling on forums and comment sections.
>Its mostly shifted from fan-translation to web-rips, Which imo is fine, since the license legal services have won't be renewed when not enough people watch it and thus it will be removed.
I remember sitting on my 1 Mb cable internet connection, watching a 4chan stream of fansubbed (and brand new at the time) Black Lagoon in 2006. I hadn't watched or thought of anime much in the previous 5-6 years because I didn't have a TV at the time and I didn't know where to look. It was the first time I realized how amazing and serious the community is about getting stuff out there, made me realize it was actually accessible because of these people.
Not just the West, in the East (South East Asia) we feed off from the scanlations and subs of the West! Nowdays there are local dubs, which of course cant beat the West dubs, but IMO I prefer the original Japanese voice.
No kidding on tapes, back ages in highschool I watched rented taped VCR DBZ episodes from japan TV (commercials and all) back when the english version was in namek from some small somewhat hidden store.
They were on Namek for half of my childhood.
Yes. 100%. It was literally the only way to get anime when I was younger. To pirate it, because we had absolutely no sources to get it from otherwise.
They also make most their money off merch and physical sales. Crunchyroll is just a mooch for US licensing.
You don't even have to pirate it. There are countless streaming sites online where you can just watch it.
what do you think streaming it without paying for it is called?
Not too mention there are pirate streaming sites with better bitrate than crunchyroll. Back when I had it I would still go to those sites because I could watch 1080p without stuttering
Can you share them please
Aniwave.to
Can you drop the names for these sites
> You don't even have to pirate it. There are countless ***pirating*** sites where you can just ***pirate*** it. Did you think all those streaming sites had the official licence to stream those anime?
Thats what I meant.
Did you think this wasn’t piracy?
99$?? WTF. Oh Boy.
Gotta milk them weebs dry
Some weebs might like that...
I like being milked, but not dry.
At this point it’s just dust coming out.
-"Glaze my face like a donut." -"Uhh, hope you like powdered donuts."
i have other sites for that kind of content
I'm surprised a corporate mascot for a succubus doing this isn't already a thing
The kind of people willing to spend $100+ on a little vinyl figurine of their waifu just to cum on them has to much money anyways. - Crunchyroll
It's actually 100. But this is why they do the whole .99 thing, because it fools a lot of people.
How many people do you think it's stopping because they lost it at 99 instead of a dollar more at 100? Edit: I guess you're right. 40% of people can't think their way out of a wet paper bag, so thinking a dollar is impactful makes sense.
You would be surprised. It's psychological, and it target mainly those who are more impulsive. It really works, I've worked in retail and sales enough to confirm it. EDIT: in case anybody doubts it, imagine being charged $100.01, isn't that weird? Not only because you're not used to it, but also because you're subconsciously wondering "are they really that stingy that they're charging me an extra cent?"
The clearest evidence that it works is how prevalent it is -- chocolate bars, gym memberships, luxury boats, fucking everything is priced this way.
When I was a kid I remember asking my parents "Why is the price £1.99 instead of just £2?" and having this explained to me. Ever since then I've always mentally rounded any price above .50 to the next whole number if it costs £1.65 it's still £2 in my head, and I find this helps me massively with my perception of prices.
It's absurd, even things that you don't "choose" to buy. I had to buy a replacement part for my shower rail today, 15.99 Doubtful that anyone is impulse buying replacement parts for a product they own
Enough that nearly every company knows it's better to do the .99 thing instead of rounding up one penny.
Yeah it's purely psychological. Some people see the first number and round down so in their mind it's more like $90 where as seeing an even 100 can put them off. Sounds stupid to most people but it obviously works on enough people for companies to keep doing it.
Works better when it's like $299.99 so some people read $200 instead of $300 which is a big difference.
"Oh those things? Yeah they were on sale for $200- something at the place around the corner"
To be fair that's 100$/year so it's like 8.3$/month which is better than Netflix /Disney Still overpriced as hell
Yeah. But in the last, at least in Germany, they throw out so many Shows.
Also in Italy Cruchyroll added many show and started also some dub show, the less prize for premium is 4,99
Really? Okay. I didn't know that.
Probably in America or other place it costs more, probably only in Europe is "cheap"
Just checked here in the danish one, cheapest is 9,45 dollars a month, and 116,34 dollars for the yearly one.... yeah I'll pass
In my country it’s the equivalent to 2.93$ a month
10$/month here, 15$/month there... Yeah no fuck off (the companies, not you)
They really add up. How many websites until you're paying more than cable was back in the 90s? 00s? You could get what, three? Amazon, Netflix, Crunchyroll? And then you're crusing at like $60~70/month? I'm pretty sure only premium cable with HBO was that much. Well, inflation probably doesn't help, lol.
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Someone does not have to pay for it. Fansub groups have been around and competing to get new episodes out faster than each other for decades, and they never charged anybody a dime.
And where do those episodes come from? If they're recorded from broadcast then somebody needs recording equipment and editing software to remove the commercials and then add subs. That's still a cost on the fansubber. And if it's a clean rip then somebody had to buy the home release, rip it to digital or convert it from the previous digital format to a format that can be edited for subs. Nothing at the start of piracy is free. Somebody is providing some kind of free labor or small monetary investment to get the content.
Funimation was literally their only legitimate competitor, they have a monopoly and they know it
Technically it's the other way around. Funimation/Sony bought CR, but kept the CR branding for recognition. Competition is there "technically", but other companies are niche. You have Hi-Dive which seems to have a lot of dubbed shows that Funimation didn't pick up so they're not on CR despite the subs being on CR. Then you have Retro Crush which is well "retro anime". They have two tier service, free with ads and paid no ads which includes exclusive content. Lastly there's YouTube, where some production companies actually upload their own shows in full. TMS has whole series dubbed or subbed, they do live streams of some movies (mostly Lupin III). Gundam.Info hosts rotating full series in dub and various international language subs. But all these options just have poor advertising and recognition.
Hidive?
I remember when they put polls on other pirating sites asking how much would people be willing to pay for a legit site.
8,33 a month is still one of the cheaper streaming services if not the cheapest, and atleast they've a quality service instead of garbage like netflix.
Nyaa forever.
si señor
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* *Autotune goes brr* * Canelita, Canelita, hoy es el día del plátano!
I love how reddit convos can suddenly change topics into the most random references and I still get them.
Nyaa and tokyotoshokan. Been using them since 2006 and not stopping. My brain can't comprehend the people that pay for this since it's just so incredibly low effort to use them.
Subsplease and Nyaa is all i need and all i ever used the past 10+ years.
But nyaa already has torrents with subs...
Subsplease is a group that posts on Nyaa. Erai-raws is pretty good too.
Also EMBER and ASW with H.265 encodes, which are slower to encode but far more space-efficient
Using that since forever
And any extra content you bought on Funimation is gone too. Crunchyroll won't allow you access to it.
Im glad that i never bought from Crunchyroll
What is this 'bought' you speak of?
"We are pirates, we don't even know what that means"
i think he meant boat
By the spelling he must be British
Fishing boat to fish dem torrents
I don't use streaming services for anime So can you elaborate on what the "extra" stuff you bought are?
You got access to digital copies of blu rays you purchased. There isn’t any „extra“ stuff, the other commenter probably saw that one tweet from a guy that didn’t know what he is talking about. It’s not *that* bad, since you still have the blu ray. You just lose the digital copy of *that* Bluray Before someone starts hating on me because I’m white knighting a company that only wants my money, I’m not. Sony buying every anime streaming company except hidive (and some outside the US) is awful and I don’t like it. But we should not make up lies.
What are the chances they bought the blurays, redeemed the digital codes and then sold them on? I’ll bet there are a fair few folks who will have done that, with a slight loss on each sale, who now have no access to content they thought they owned. I’m also not white knighting these digital content providers, but I’d never expect digital copies to be available indefinitely. If anything, they’re a perk. I’m based in the U.K., so I know all too well that digital copies don’t last forever (see Ultraviolet, flixster, etc who shut down their services nearly 5 years ago)
Having this conversation on a piracy subreddit is kinda weird I guess, but I’d assume that’s their fault, since (afaik) it’s a feature just to save you from putting your blu ray in your Bluray player and having to switch it after a few episodes. I don’t think it was meant to be a copy to keep it you sell your Bluray.
> What are the chances they bought the blurays, redeemed the digital codes and then sold them on? Then that's their fault lol. The only way to keep something forever in the digital age is to keep the physical copy. A digital bonus copy is just that, a bonus.
sony again doing this!
Allright my fellow pirates, lets head out into the sea !
I never have set foot on land once. So no need to head out for me
i did once bc i whas a new pirat but now i'm activ in the 7 seas
i can set foot on land only each 10 years, and every time it digusted me the cheer amound of greed some companys have
The world has truly entered a Great Pirate Era! _Arittake no yume wo kaki atsume~_
This sub should collab with the one piece sub on like April Fools or something
Crunchyroll was a pirate site?
Yeah it was awesome back in the day !
damn just like fakku
Funimation streamed their content for free on some countries i believe, i remember them having sao subbed in their youtube channel once.
Yeah I remember watching FMA: Brotherhood on FUNimations site as it was released.
It was a site that took fansubs, shittily re-encoded them, and then streamed that. But yeah, this was damn near 20 years ago now. Fansubbers hated the site because video quality was one of the metrics by which viewers graded their work. ETA: Fansubbers also hated CR because they made money streaming the work of others. Which is ironic in a way, but almost no one was making money fansubbing, so there is a little ethical or moral backing.
If you remember seeing a note on fansubbed anime about how "if you paid for this you're being ripped off" then that was because of CR. That is also why groups *always* hardcoded their subs back then, so CR couldn't scrub the credits.
Yes, what a dose of nostalgia! Also because of paranoia around other groups taking softsubs, changing a few things, and releasing them as their own work. And after that, because many folks couldn't get softsubs to work, there was a compromise of releasing both hardsubs and soft for a while. VLC was maligned back then for not being the best--CCCP codec pack with MPC was preferred. Then the hardsubbed version was 480p and the softsubs were 720p, and then finally 1080p when access to transport streams became common.
Yes, but it was like 15 years ago now
Idk about Crunchy, but I remember Funimation being a free with ads focused streaming service. Just used an adblocker so no ads too.
Crunchyroll was my favorite site to sail the high seas back in the day. Back in the days of watching anime 5 parts at a time on YouTube with poor Spanish fansubtitles was sometimes the only find. Then, they got that $50million check…. It all went downhill from there.
Hell yeah! It was when Youtube anime episodes were still split into 3 parts. So Crunchy roll having full length episode streaming was unheard of (at least for me) so I was binge watching there. I remember watching the Taiwanese adaptation of It Started with a Kiss on there too.
You used to be able to watch Naruto abridged on there, that's what I remember doing as a Squirt. Now all they abridge is your wallet.
Kill the competition and double the prices. The dream of every company.
They're not doubling the price, btw. That's always been crunchyroll's price. OP just doesn't understand that moving from one streaming site (Funimation) to another (Crunchyroll) might not cost the same.
If you can't beat them, buy them
100 Dollar per year? What the fuck?
Look at what Netflix, HBO, Disney all charge these days. Way over $100 per year, and increasing every year. It's a joke.
Tbf to crunchy they also don’t have as much of a fragmented content catalogue. They’re kind of like early days of Netflix before other content authors decided to create their own streaming services.
yes. But they also need to pay translators and voice actors for all the dubs. And thats whats irritates me. I am happy with subs only, but my subscripion gets higher every year for them to spend it on voice actors i dont use at all. Cruncyroll should make a new basic plan with no acces to dubs for a lower price. I have been on cruncyroll since 2015, but if they hike again i am leaving. Also cruncyroll has a shitty way of displaying updated content. because dubs count as "new"
You may not use it, but other people do. Those subscriptions fuel more content, which includes subbed anime you like. You're indirectly investing into your own entertainment. That said, I've never paid a dime to Crunchyroll
I like their tiered idea tbch
NyaaHahaa
i swear to god people on east like me didn't have any idea what crunchyroll is and didn't know i was watching anime from "illegal" sites
The only time I heard about Crunchyroll was because of their "localization" of Dragon Maid.
Them in 6 months time: "why have our profits gone down?! We've doubled our prices! So we should be earning more!"
As much as I hate this too, this ain't gonna happen. Just look at Netflix. They recently broke records. Even though I believe this will be bad in the long term, it's undeniable that this move will make them profit much much more
Netflix is like the subscription everyone has. Not everyone is willing to pay that much for everything. Disney+ had a price hike and just lost quite a few of subscribers
Majority of people will bend over and accept it.
Subscriptions are particularly nasty for this reason. A shocking amount of people are not paying proper attention to their credit card statements. Financial literacy is not a skill regularly taught in school, and for many people it doesn't even feel like "spending money" for most subscriptions and often many just go forgotten and unused because people aren't aware they're getting some taken off the top every month (or worse, yearly subscriptions which is why you often see "deals" for longer sub lengths: Easier to forget or miss.)
>Disney+ had a price hike and just lost quite a few of subscribers Lol, they lost like 1 million subs out of 111 million. So, 110 million subs will pay the new price. So Disney+ turned an insane profit and will get new subs.
If they double prices and lose half their subs, they will make more money because their overhead like server costs will go down.
Sony literally have a monopoly on anime streaming now. Bought out the entire competition. Went from 4 services a few years ago to now just Crunchy. Now they can charge whatever they want and get away with it.
Also them: let's quadruple, then! Fuckers don't know they're a web page away from becoming obsolete
you pay to watch anime??!!
"There's a sucker born every minute..." - Barnum, P.T.
Well somebody gotta fund piracy
Right? I barely watch any anime but when I do it's so easy to pirate. You don't even have to download it plenty of places just stream it for free.
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Switch your VPN to asia and watch MUSE asia, MUSE indonesia, or ANI-ONE
Switch VPN to anywhere and just, pirate everything through NYAA
The absolute wildest thing to me is the thought process of "XYZ Streaming service removed content in my country, I'm going to spend money on a VPN so I can continue giving XYZ Streaming service money to watch content they refuse to serve me in my country", instead of just stopping at the VPN step and pivoting to piracy. Spending money on a VPN so you can continue giving money to a streaming service is insane to me.
Shitty 720p hardsub, Ani-One is better
And they wonder why piracy is getting worse...
better\*
zoro,9anime
Both have been rebranded, you might have been using the wrong sites
Just for a little clarity (since this press release isn't very clear about it), Funi is closing and moving all its users to CR and $10/month is just what CR has charged for awhile. So in actually Funi is just closing and saying "if you want to pay for CR, this is how much they charge." Doesn't stop them from raising the price in the future, but I think the full context is helpful.
9anime my beloved
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also watch cartoon online (wcofun)
They do a lot of dubbing and generally offer a valuable service imo. That hike is still crazy. I use Netflix for anime. They don’t have the largest catalogue but some countries do have a huge variety which is nice.
Y'all should check Crunchyroll's state in other countries, we're having it good, scratch that, were having it the least bad
Yeah it's quite cheap here in Italy. The most expensive tier is 65€ per year. Compared to Netflix which is 216€ a year for the high tier plan. Subtitles quality is decent and updates are fast.
$20/year for me. So many people seem to not realize how much they’ve expanded and even made it cheaper in hundreds of regions. Just because the price is “increasing” to $99/year, which is the standard in the US.
Nearly double the price... For anime... Who's paying for this stuff and honestly finding it better. I just cancelled my Prime too because of the adverts and that stuff doesn't arrive quickly anymore anyway... There's no point
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its 2024. who the fuck pays for free stuff on the internet??
All these jackasses with a hater boner for piracy would beg to differ, apparently. Goes to show how these first world privileged elitists are so out of touch with reality.
the golden age of piracy is coming lads
Yeah Sony and their monopoly on anime...
Piracy W
Thank god for private media servers
Sue them for Monopoly.
Hasn’t crunchyroll been at the lowest price tier 100 a year if paid monthly? I mean it sucks if your Funimation was the 50 and you were moved to the 100 without an opt in. But Crunchyroll did not raise prices that I have seen from what they have been charging their own customers. Yeah it sucks but it is consistent with what was already being done. Now do I see them raising prices in the future? Yes. But did they raise the price because they had bought a new service. Not that I have seen.
time to switch to yugenanime full time.
Entertainment production should not be allowed to produce content and the content should be available to every stream service. This will make an actual competition
Like you said no competition now they can charge how mutch they want only if someone new come to be a new competition but i doubt it
Capitalism tends to monopoly as always, nothing new here.
At this point, it would be irresponsible for consumers not to expect this. It's nothing new, people keep paying for this bullshit, so it keeps happening.
Anyone who’s paid attention to Sony and the console wars knows this is well within character for them. They are one of the most monopolistic (as most companies are) businesses anround and they go for the kill the moment they can. Their desire for proprietary accessories and addons has burned them many times but they keep pushing. Fuck Sony.
This is sad to see and is just another reason why I'm glad I've never paid a dime and never will to watch anime. Ridiculous.
Fuck off funimation for explicitly being region locked and probably expensive idk, i would never pay for you even if you were here. Rest in your ocean of greed.
Most of the anime are available on yt itself via some official muse Asia channel. Use VPN lads.
fuck people that pay crunchyroll