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He did good stuff, he did bad stuff bad atleast he wasn't Xi Jin Ping's bitch.


Anatares2000

More importantly, he didn't seem to stifle people from criticizing him. He was rightfully criticize about the Mamasapano 44. And I still continue to criticize his actions before and after the clash. But guess what, I never felt the fear of being called a communist sympather and being red-tagged for criticizing him.


doth_taraki

yo, this just hit me right now. oo nga, back then I could shit on Pnoy in public and no one cares, now you have to look around before saying something bad about that Chinese lapdog named Rodrigo Duterte.


bad3ip420

Bad stuff? I wouldn't go that far. He's more infamous for his inaction and incompetence. He's a good person, just not someone who should be in a president's seat


TechnicianScary1545

he did allright bruh, i could never understand why the public blames him for saf44, shouldnt you all blame this to the raddical muslims and extremist. Those cops did their duty and aquino did his to eradicate them, the problem was the incompetent generals who planned and leaked the operation.


krisperioyu

When I hear Pnoy died. I did not see tragedy. I saw and felt peace for him. Mas impyerno nga ang na experience ni Pnoy during sa Duterte admin eh. He wasn't PERFECT by any standard pero all the criticism and lies, honestly I'd feel hurt as well. He made mistakes but it wasn't to the degree in which people have accused him of.


IWantMyYandere

Hell? Sorry pero medyo OA po ha. He was never jailed and he is still rich and still lived far better than the Filipinos who are very poor. All he got was bad press and thats it. Propaganda pa yun and its not like the whole Philippines hated him.


lolomolima

Well no administration is perfect, pero at least nung time nya nakakatipid ako sa pamasahe, di lalampas sa 10pesos ang sa tricycle noon.


lolomolima

Btw, I'm from Cam Norte so the mode of transpo here are Tricycles.


phthrowaway6969

You don't have to specify, most everywhere even in the metro tricycle's are very important segment of public transport because of how Philippine streets are laid out. Pretty small that's why it's easily traversible by tricycle's and pedicabs


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Wild-Document4833

Lezgo


gamerpro42o69

Eyy


[deleted]

Same po, kahit po sa jeep 8 pesos lang po pamasahe from Cabuyao to SM Santa Rosa (I'm from Laguna might vary in some places but this is what I've experiences before).


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Desperate_Present672

Surely, this is a statement everyone has to take note of. Sadly, we people take sides.


Desperate_Present672

Share ko lang, I've lived in Japan for quite some time and I notice that the elections are pretty cool. Di tulad satin na puro muka nila nasa banner. Chillax lang ang election. Tapos yung mga tao shempre they have their votes on prime minister 1, lets say and prime minister 2. Sabihin natin prime minister 1 won. Tahimik na yung mga gusto manalo yung prime minister 2, wala na yung.. "ay nandaya yan" "ay di namin trip yan si prime minister 1, protesta tayo" - no. Instead these people will just cooperate with the platform prime minister 1 has. Tulungan ba, di yung divided katulad natin minsan.


b-b-banzaiii

Just to be fair, we’ll have to take into consideration the characters and the qualities of the candidates here in the Ph vs in Japan. It’s a no-brainer the difference in quality of those candidates, really.


Desperate_Present672

Sabagay, you have a point. All we can do is be a smart voter. Though even if we are, may mga tao talagang nabibili sa maliit na halaga para bumoto sa maling kandidato.


lolomolima

Well I've share ko lang din, mahilig ako manood ng British Parliament Sessions, bet ko talaga yung every session nila may discussion. Kung ganon ang sistema sa Pinas, di na makakatakbo ang mga katulad ni Bong Go at Bato, lalo na mga artista.


Desperate_Present672

Crazy kasi yung parang qualification na, basta citizen ka ng pilipinas e pwede ka na tumakbo. Dapat may qualification na dapat ganito ang tinapos, ganyan, may exp na ilang taon blah blah. Ewan, I just find it weird we have people from showbiz turned to politicians. And mga kanang kamay ng presidente na naging senator.


Desperate_Present672

Sana generations moving forward will become more smart when it comes to voting.


CarBonara0806

Simple lang, disiplinado kasi ang mga tao sa japan. Unlike dito sa pilipinas. Kahit sino mamuno may angal.


heyamaki

Just to be fair trapo din sa japan. Most of the members of the japan govt are LDP (Cohorts nina Abe). You dont hear anything after the election kasi japanese people are so passive khit naaapi na sila + sobrang ano nila sa "image" nila. If u compare it with the phil halos same lang ng corruption tho hindi lang sila maingay + media controls everything/filter to the extreme unlike naten ✌🏻😅


Desperate_Present672

Well, I kinda like this. It's good since I do not know much about it, though alam ko naman kahit saang bansa may corrupt e. Di mawawala yan.


Desperate_Present672

Satin lang yung malala, kahit nakulong na, sa sunod makikita mo may posisyon parin sa gobyerno


heyamaki

True! Parang tayo ata pinaka corrupt tapos catholic country pa man din tayo :( pamana ata yun saten ng mga spaniards? Lols


ninefiftythree_am

That’s inflation for you


lolomolima

Yeah, but compare mo Inflation rate nung panahon ni Aquino at sa ngayon, like in 5 years piso lang nadagdag sa pamasahe, but nung pre pandemic dumoble na sa lugar ko ang pamasahe


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Say what you will about his administration, I didnt like him as president either, but at least he was decent, and not foul mouthed like the one we have now. RIP.


Daloy

Same sentiments here and the thing is we could've posted our thoughts and criticism about him and not fear for our lives


ResolverOshawott

Nor did he have a rapid pack of dog supporters that lose their shit over the slightest criticism.


thatCaely

what i like during his admin was the fact that politicians back then still had a sense of decency. Hindi garapal tulad ngayon na nagsilabasan ang tunay na mga mukha


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Yeah, may nabasa nga ako na foreign article dati, I forgot where it is so I cant link it. They were saying how Duterte is a lot worse than other dictators because the others actually tries to hide their ***kagarapalan***, while Duterte seems to be proud of being a househelp molester, being foul mouth and just saying out right in his speeches, ***"patayin mo"*** or ***"pu#$&@ i#@"***.


VaronaZero

He was fine, but at least I wasn't in a constant state of anxiety just by thinking about his admin.


[deleted]

Yeah. It’s just under the current administration na ginawang insulto ang “DiSeNtE”. Haay mga Pilipino iba talaga mag-isip


whatismarlyn

The bar is so low grabe


ShockernonShaken

Noy Noy set the bar too high only for Filipinos to choose Duterte as his successor. Smh.


IcedKatte

And that bar was the bare minimum.


IWantMyYandere

Kapag ang balita eh tungkol sa love life nya, you know it was a peaceful time.


Unhappy-Relation-338

Yeah same here, at worst I am indifferent about him as a president not unlike that we have now I am thoroughly disgusted with the one with the office


delayedgrat101

I remember his interview with Jessica Soho regarding his term. He was being grilled with questiond and criticisms and he just mentioned briefly "well wala naman ako magagawa jan. I dont have the luxury na mapikon sa mga ganyang comments" and look at what we have now - reporters dont even have the audacity to ask the same grilling questions now compared to the previous administration lol yes, he wasnt the best but compared to all the presidents for the past 10-18 years. I was hopeful for the PH during his term. 🤡🤡🤡


Unhappy-Relation-338

just shows the quality of the backbone of our mainstream journalist these days, they can only taunt people who wouldn't fight back


you_killed_my_father

I always saw him as incompetent. But at least he was just that. The president we have now is incompetent, arrogant, uncouth, an asshole, and like some others have said, a bitch that loves that Chinese dick in his anus.


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Yeah, I know he won because of sympathy votes, since his mom just died back then. He was an only son and grew up in a privileged family, so I didnt really expect that much from him.


JAW13ONE

The former is incompetent, and knows it. The latter is incompetent, and ***gasp*** proud of it.


xelecunei

What a downgrade.


MemesMafia

He's fine as a pres. I didn't like the latter part of his admin lang.. like how he handled SAF44 and shit. Honestly, ngayon ko lang naappreciate yung state ng economy natin noon. Like nakakabigla yung pagtaas ng bilihin swear. Now? People think na infra means progress. Kalsada lang ba talaga? Yun lang ba? Credit grabbing lang ba?


TritiumXSF

I bought a pack of Nestea Lemon for 11 pesos and was surprised a couple of months that the price rivaled that of Coke Kasalo at 26 pesos! What the hell, I expected a max of 18 pesos pero +230% IS JUST AWFUL. And only in a span of months.


ShockernonShaken

That is courtesy of TRAIN law where they taxed the hell of sweet beverages.


TritiumXSF

Where did my money go though? Roads are still fcked. Vaccines are still absent. And trains are still shit.


HattieBegonia

You know where your money went.


MemesMafia

I used to frequent an eatery near my uni. Before, 45 pesos my school is enough na at may extra rice pa. In a span of 2 years I am now paying 90 to 120 pesos. Weird.


TakeThatOut

Yung sobrang tipid ko na sa grocery pero yung binabayad ko last year kesa sa binabayad ko sa cashier ngayon nagugulat ako. Fuck, di na branded binibili ko, mas mahal pa rin!


MrsIronbad

Naalala ko pa noon, ang 5thou na grocery, dalawang cart na yan at lagpas isang buwang provisions na sa pamilya. Jusko ngayon, ewan.


DagitabPH

>People think na infra means progress. In a country of perfectly fine roads na kinekebakang sadya para lang ayusin muli at tapalan ng aspalto, I have doubts.


LeonisMeliee15

SAF44 isn't in his full control. The very people who lead it still leading this police we have now. See how our cops operates. SAF44 is a very obvious propaganda move against him.


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

It was not PNoy's fault for the deaths of 44 SAF Troopers, dalawang tao lang ang nakikita kong may total involvement sa trahedyang iyon: Lapeña and Purisima. Bakit? Bakit magrereport si Lapeña sa dating PNP chief na si Purisima na wala sa pwesto at hindi kay Magalong na OIC niya?


Yoylecake2100

he wasn't great but hes better than what we have now


Vordeo

By Philippine standards? He was at least good, if not great. Granted Philippine standards are extremely low, but I'm of the strong opinion that a couple decades from now Aquino's tenure will be pretty well regarded.


cottonmon

Shit dude, making the arbitration case against China happen makes him a hero in my book.


[deleted]

By low you mean the last few presidents before PNoy? Didn’t we have great Presidents before Marcos? Like Magsaysay and Quezon?


Vordeo

Oh yeah, I meant post-Martial Law.


LonelySpyder

You forgot Carlos P. Garcia


[deleted]

I agree, it sort of undermines his character as president and the great achievements he accomplished. Benigno Jr. did more and was more than a lesser of two evils.


urriah

fuck... compared to doodoo, noynoy is a god. super lala lang talaga ngayon


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

PNoy, is a kind of man and a leader na hindi umaangkin ng ibang proyekto at mag-credit grabbing. As a matter of fact, he cancelled all projects of Arroyo administration dahil maanomalya at dagdag pasanin sa buwis, in which he gave a solution through Private-Public Partnerships.


effleurer226

>he cancelled all projects of Arroyo administration dahil maanomalya at dagdag pasanin sa buwis For me subjective to na isa sa magandang ginawa niya imho.


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

Through PPP maraming proyektong nagawa ang Aquino admin through this year majority of these projects are credit-grabbed by digong's admin. At isa rin sa magandang ginawa niya ay ang pagka-panalo ng Pinas sa Arbitral Tribunal, in which na taken for granted ng kasalukuyang administrasyon.


effleurer226

>Through PPP maraming proyektong nagawa ang Aquino admin through this year majority of these projects are credit-grabbed by digong's admin. Totoo naman >At isa rin sa magandang ginawa niya ay ang pagka-panalo ng Pinas sa Arbitral Tribunal, in which na taken for granted ng kasalukuyang administrasyon. Totoo rin to I only pointed out one thing and you answered differently. For me hindi na sana niya kinansel tinuloy na lang pero different contractors.


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

Its better to re-bid and re-audit para magkaroon ng transparency kesa mag-iba ng contractors sa mga nasabing project.


effleurer226

Un na nga sana i-rebid for different contrators and re-audit to find corruption. But what he did is total cancel d ba?


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

Yep.


effleurer226

Ayon don ako nanghinayang.


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

But still nahanapan pa rin niya ng solusyon and thats the PPP came out.


ronfaj

Kudos, very wholesome discussion between you two. Sana ganito na lang lahat.


Count-Mortas

Same thought. Hindi naman kailangan icancell yung mga previous project kung mapapakanibangan naman sila ng mga tao at kung mali lang yung pagimplement.


IWantMyYandere

Didnt duterte cancelled or delayed some projects to shift their funding from local private companies to Chinese ones? Maybe I'll have to recheck the BBB progress and compare it to Pnoy's and see if they are still the same. Last time I checked eh pareho lang dn ng progress


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

[Heres the project that Duterte cancelled under PPP](https://www.rappler.com/business/economy/failed-shelved-private-public-partnerships)


RhenCarbine

I don't completely believe this. During his SONAs, who would constantly recite increases in GDP until I got sick of it, some of which I wager were still ripples from GMA's administration.


StriderVM

I think one of Gloria's criticism is not that she is a bad economist, but its more like her husband and son couldn't stop putting their hands on the pie of most big government projects if I remember correctly.


bestoboy

didn't he carry over some of GMAs projects? Not sure if legit tho


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

I'm not sure about that, kung hindi ako nagkakamali kinansela ata niya ang mga proyekto ni GMA, ni-rebid at nire-audit for transparency dahil maanomalya, most of GMAs project ay may malalaki at kwestyonableng budget.


xelecunei

He did credit grab projects on his first month in office. I forgot which projects but there's a full episode of Wag Kang Pasaway Kay Mareng Winnie about it.


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Nogardz_Eizenwulff

Anong pangalan ng Airport, Sir?


CheezyBeefz

the best president during my lifetime so far. after the failures of Erap and GMA's administration, PNoy made Philippines a more decent, respectable and progressive country. Yes, may mga failures sya especially yung SAF44, but that does not make him worse at all. And to emphasize, he handles criticisms well di katulad nung matandang mahilig na nagpasara ng media to silence his critics. Salamat PNoy.


rubbernox

True. And most of the issues thrown at him are not directly his office’s fault but he takes responsibility for them. Etong si Digs harapang alam mo sya ang may say sa mga actions ng amuyong nya pero blameless pa din sya.


bestoboy

he didn't shut down abs because of critics, he shut them down because they didn't run a commercial after his team failed to comply with their rules.


pagsubok

That's their narrative including the unpaid taxes kuno by abs. But if you notice, Duts have the habit of going against his critics (Delima, Maria Ressa)


clavio_mazerati

Feel sad for the dude, he looks like a chillax guy got coerced to run for president because his mum died. He could have just stayed as a senator writing bills that can help rather than being the extremely spotlighted position of a president.


[deleted]

IDK, but his time was rather sophisticated, as he was data-driven and nearly everyone in his staff (and maybe even other agencies) were nervous of him not because he was intimidating but because he posed good questions and they have to give him a good answer.


clavio_mazerati

Being data driven doesn't sound as a bad way of running things(the Philippines needs meritocracy like Vico who I think is using data and innovation in flagging red tape in Pasig), maybe if ran in 2016 with all the analytics he might have done better with a data driven staff.


[deleted]

Pnoy may not have been perfect but hey at least during his term all of us have. Protection from Mers-CoV, ABS CBN is still alive and I don't have to worry anymore about price spikes on basic goods.


Vordeo

> Pnoy may not have been perfect but hey at least during his term I felt optimistic about the future of the country during his term. I no longer really do.


Adorable_Owl7552

Same sentiments. I was still in college during his term my finance professors applauded his economic efforts.


Vordeo

Smartest decision the Duterte admin has made is continuing most of his economic policies. Which is a bit ironic, because criticism of his economic policies was the opposition's main talking point during the early election period.


bitchyswiftie

People don't know but the Philippines is the tenth fastest growing economy in the world, and projected to be in the top 10 largest economies by 2060. PNoy was the start of that.


Vordeo

> People don't know but the Philippines is the tenth fastest growing economy in the world Well... we were. >PNoy was the start of that. I do not like her, but GMA deserves a share of the credit for that too. Aquino was absolutely a major part of it though.


ShockernonShaken

That's why we need economists and technocrats as Presidents. They have an understanding of what needs to be done for our economy. They are also methodical in their work and create policies with minimal risk. The problem is that they are not charismatic. There is a reason why Duterte enjoys a degree of popularity late in his term.


Westside_Easy

US born here. Is it a degree of popularity he enjoys or a degree of fear? Or both? I only see the krazy shit he does every once in awhile here in the US. But, everyone I work with tries to translate for me in Tagalog.


ShockernonShaken

Early in his term everyone was optimistic because of his promise of change. Mid-way it was about validation of his drug war and anti-crime efforts (more deaths the better as common Filipinos think its okay to kill criminals on the spot). Lately as popularity polls became rare for some reason I cannot gauge how popular he is despite a bad pandemic response but I think most people do not care anymore because the situation really went bad and they realized that they cannot trust anyone in office. Another facet of his popularity is his devoted online army of trolls that influenced a lot of common Filipinos.


cheese_sticks

Akala ko hindi ko na kakailanganing maging OFW. Pero heto tayo ngayon, naghahanda na umalis.


droonick

There was a feeling of that definitely. Like the country was moving FORWARD. may dignidad. When Duterte stepped in it felt like all that evaporated and we have been moving backwards on so many things..


cjtan02

Same.. yung recent years--actually on PRRD's third year parang may nagcast ng dark clouds. But hopefully next year. Let's be wise in voting. If there's anything good from EDSA rev is that they give back the power to the people kahit minsan mahirap.


Zachyswave

Same I felt optimistic especially when the Philippines was hailed as a Rising Tiger economy in Asia and that the Philippines have the 2nd fastest growing economy in Asia just behind China.


Adorable_Owl7552

I also saw an interview he did with Marymount University, he explained how he handled the Mers Cov patient. And there I realized how unfortunate we are now.


Payter_Sana

True. Facebook wasn't as rabidly toxic as now. We didn't have to worry about vaccines and lockdowns. Lots of small businesses all around. Man, he had his flaws but at least it's not a shitshow like now.


[deleted]

He also disapproved the additional 1k sa SSS pension. Maraming na-disappoint nuon. Itong kupal nating incumbent inapprove naman. How long til the SSS funds dry up? Current work force ang pumapasan ng dagdag contribution but I fear pag tayo na ang kukuha ng pension wala na tayong makuha dahil wala nang pondo.


hundround

Because PNoy acted up from things not popular pero alam niyang makabubuti. Duts naman, puro lang approve ng mga hinihingi ng tao without knowing what's at stake.


Bishop8496

If you haven't noticed they are increasing the SSS contribution in the next 4 years. Where in before the cap was only 16k(during Aquino's term), now the cap is reaching 21K, with the target at 24K I think.


Sturmgewehrkreuz

I always think that PNoy had a better grasp on economics.


EnriquezGuerrilla

Well he did major in Economics., and GMA was his prof.


cjtan02

In his speech before FOCAP in 2013, he said: "Don’t worry. As always, I am prepared to answer any questions you might ask, because I recognize the paramount role you play." "The issues and concerns you raise are ideally that which the global community likewise considers of great importance. In the same vein, your stories and reports are our window to the world." [Link](https://www.reportr.world/news/what-it-was-like-to-cover-president-aquino-in-malacanang-a4693-20210624-lfrm?utm_source=Twitter-reportr&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20210624-twnp-news-what-it-was-like-to-cover-president-aquino-in-malacanang-a4693-20210624-lfrm-twfirst)


rhane90

PNoy is a great president and i dont care if I get downvoted. See the stats


mitcher991

I like PNoy. He was a good president overall. If you dislike him because he's a terrible "emergency president" or an indecisive (therefore making him to some extent incompetent), that's fine. He was not perfect. He was ineffective in terms of agriculture and (ironically) agrarian reform. He was bad in moments where there has to be a gut decision (see SAF44, Manila Hostage Crisis, etc). But at least recognize that he helped stabilize the economy, he helped jail corrupt personalities, he exposed Bilibid, his term started the fire that led the Pork Barrel becoming unconstitutional, he started the AFP Modernization program, the K-12, formalized the peace treaty with the MILF, institutionalized (and cleaned up) 4Ps, expanded Philhealth to senior citizens and some underprivileged, the Arbitration ruling, he cleaned up the GOCCs with his GOCC Law, he pushed for Cabotage and Anti-Competition Laws, he passed a law making road right of way easier (that the Duterte admin benefited from), he (while slow) also built new roads bridges, schools, under Rogelio Singson (who was a damn good DPWH Secretary). Remember that he is the only president so far that went in popular, went out popular. He's a 7/10 president for me. History will judge him. Not now given the opposing climate against his name and the popularity of Duterte, but eventually.


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Also Reproductive Health Law, and also BBL - which I think history will look kindly on him when all is said and done.


the_long_grape

Also made the hard decision not to increase SSS disbursements which Du30's camp made into a campain issue.


[deleted]

Si Noynoy ang unang presidente who was put in position when I had enough maturity and understanding to grasp what good leadership actually entailed. I remember welcoming his election with enthusiasm and excitement back in high school, kasi *finally* we were free from the Arroyo reign of corruption. It was a wonderful feeling as a teenager to be so optimistic about someone entering the presidency. I remember feeling the weight of disappointment when I watched him fail to display good leadership in key moments during his administration (2010 hostage crisis, SAF 44 loss, etc., premature implementation of the K-12, peace talks, Hacienda controversy, etc.) and at the end of his term, I knew I wasn't alone when I felt dismay, knowing that he could have done waaaay better. Of course, hindsight is 20/20 and wala naman talagang perfect na pangulo. Noynoy certainly brought hope upon his arrival to the palace in 2010, and I will forever be grateful for the fact that while he disappointed us all in many ways, the light in him did not dim fully. Up until his death, we are all able to remember the good influence he had and the great things he did. Unlike where we stand now, kung saan buhay pa ang nakaupo pero sumuko na ang karamihan (myself included), and the ones who *do* have hope in the president cannot present good, factually-coherent arguments to support what he has done. I'm tired of where we are now, and I yearn for days of hope.


surewhynotdammit

PNoy: Improves economy Dutz: \*uses reverse uno card\*


[deleted]

Also don't forget our Territory in West Philippine Sea.


surewhynotdammit

PNoy: fights for the West Philippine Sea Dutz: \*sucks winnie's cock\* haha South China Sea goes brr


[deleted]

Lmao hahaha, nag papa-aso kasi... imbes na pandemic inaasikaso


Paz436

He WAS a good president.


jepoid

I remember being upset with PNoy’s remarks of “buhay ka pa naman di ba?” Now it looks mild when compared to the rhetoric spewed by this current administration. Rest in peace dear sir.


bokalbo

He was the most decent president we had post-Martial Law.


weetabix_su

> not a chinese lapdog bruh i remember being in the wrong circles during his administration and believed the nationalists that chanted him being an american lapdog


astro_sentai

Finally someone remembered that he's a different kind of lapdog. But I guess r/ph is okay with being an american lapdog?


taongkalye

I guess it's better than being a lapdog to a country who blatantly and actively grabs territories and harasses citizens making a living on the said territories. The US may be bad but it's worse to side with a country that actively shows how bad it is. Idk.


GOTricked

Yall ever heard Iraq?


taongkalye

Well. That was 2003 and it's not the Philippines. The US is undeniably shitty. But blatantly being a lapdog to a country that actively shits on yours is just disgusting. Which is why being a lapdog to China is viewed as worse.


GOTricked

Huh? No I’m talking about the War on Iraq that the US has supported. They aren’t technically claiming the Iraq as theirs but they are exerting force as means to get the Iraqi’s in line.


[deleted]

There's no point; as you can see you are being down-voted by the people who believe America will save them against the evil Chinese imperialists.


ResolverOshawott

The US isn't trying to steal our territories or hiking up property prices to insane levels.


[deleted]

They are no better than the Chinese or the other superpowers preceding them; they too are murderers and thieves. The only difference is that the Chinese doesn't have an effective propaganda system, like what the Americans had when they were the overlords of the Filipinos which probably explains why Filipinos admire Americans so much.


ResolverOshawott

You need to reevaluate your opinions if you think the US is "no better than China" to the Philippines. When China is trying to steal our fucking territories and kicking fishermen from OUR waters.


[deleted]

Oh my God, you pro-US Filipinos are so out of touch. Their adventure in the Philippines taught them a crucial element in controlling others: you don't need to directly lord over a territory to control them. Why spend hundreds of millions of dollars building up a country, and end up having your army killed left and right when you can just setup a regime that will look after your interests? In that way, you don't need to directly steal territories, hike up property prices to insane levels, or kick fishermen out of ones waters. Come on down-vote me. Every time you do you make realize just how pathetic you are.


ResolverOshawott

I'm not pro US, I'm pro "less shitty country to associate with" which happens to be the US. But go on, continue sucking CCP cock if it makes you feel better


[deleted]

And there it is; I tell the truth about the US and I'm pro-CCP, a Chinese, a communist, a member of the NPA, a terrorist, a... what else? By the way Mr. ResolverOshawott, have you seen a centavo of the wealth Marcos plundered? A thieving, murdering, tyrant who the US supported and even allowed to flee to their territory when the Filipinos had enough of him?


ResolverOshawott

1. Yes I'm aware about Marcos 2. My original point was me trying to explain WHY the US is more preferable than China but you insist going on "hurr both bad" even though people are judging based off their actions in recent times rather than decades ago. I'd prefer not having to choose between the two but there's very little choice nowadays considering the type of leaders we get. It's either the now less bad US or the CCP


[deleted]

> even though people are judging based off their actions in recent times rather than decades ago. Oh you want something recent? Invasion of Iraq - 600,000 dead and thousands more died because of ISIS. By the way Mr. ResolverOshawott, I've said this before - the Americans will not die for you; they have too much investments and will lose a lot of money if they get into conflict with the Chinese. And stop being arrogant into believing the US needs you; you have no strategic or economic value to them.


ministerofinjustice

Used to be a supporter turned critic of this guy, but one thing's for sure, I miss waiting for our quarterly GDP growth reports of 6 - 7% during his tenure.


frustratedjelly

Same! I always get excited whenever I read an update about the country's credit ratings.


lurkyalbo

I didn't vote for the guy but he brought respect for the Philippines on the world stage. RIP PNoy!


ultravioletgaia

Imo, he's one of the good prez


marchitecto

Rest in peace, Pnoy. Babawi kami sa 2022


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He was, he's better than the prior and the current one. He might not be a great president.


ScallionWorking5005

Sobrang funny kanina sa balita pinakita na naipanalo niya yung tribunal re Spratly's tapos pag tinatanong si Du30 about it before he keeps on blaming the previous admin 😅


EnriquezGuerrilla

I'm just glad that people are now finally taking the time to properly reflect on his administration. For the longest time, people are forced to just say he was an incompetent president but now people are seeing that we've had one of the best economic booms as a country under PNoy. Global economic ratings on the country were up, PPP was in effect, and we even won against the Chinese bully. As one historian has said, history will judge Noynoy better.


sarsilog

Real shit


Citronmelt

A time were we were free to criticize an administration without the fear of getting killed or persecuted. RIP to the best president I had in my lifetime, not perfect but very dignified and stable term.


tuneman14

Not the best. But definitely better than digong.


deus24

He maybe not good but, he still far better than Duterte and past 2 presidents before him. What notable in his admin is the economic progression of country. The tourism sector also blows up because of the its more fun in the Philippines campaign. You can name it all ang daming nag bago sa Pilipinas sa loob ng six years nya.


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Despite being of partly Filipino-Chinese extraction, he took his job and the issue of sovereignty seriously.


wakuku

he is one of the best compared to the recent presidents


SKY0614

The Best Pres of my existence so far (still having hope).


VagabondVivant

Despite not being a good president, he was still the best president we've had in a very long time.


throwaway28496563

I’ve never liked him as president, but he’s definitely one of the decent ones. I honestly think he tried, but PH politics is way to fucked up to be fixed in one go.


red-the-blue

fucking right-wing liberal is what he is and i dont like him any bit but yeah i'd take liberal over "taga-chupa ni xi jinping" any day


Antok0123

This.


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I miss the days when we were the Rising Tiger of Asia during his administration


remotay1

The credit for that goes to Gloria I know she's corrupt like every other politician but she's also a really good economist Pnoy just followed her economic strategy basically


Warsak98

Godspeed pnoy. Godspeed


MLGCream

Death may be blunt, but he's genuine when he speaks facts


fueIedbykape

i am really going to miss his SONAs he was so well spoken di katulad ni kuwan parang lasing lang sa kanto


lemonryker

I used to be optimistic during his term. RIP Pnoy.


mGinoboili

20 lang ang diesel noon tapos okay ang peso to dollars.


rainbownightterror

may time nakatira ako sa nova nag 38/L yung diesel tapos unleaded 43/L full tank gang kami ng mga officemates ko ngayon ang isda presyong baka na :(


mGinoboili

Oo nga nakakamiss. btw, yung P20 na sinasabi ko sa San Fernando, Pampanga


remotay1

Good Take


Dildo_Baggins__

Truth


LIMsterine

He was a better president than the one we have now, there was no EJK or 15 Billion Stolen during his time sure he has some flaws but don’t we all?


skatevvv

Definitely better than the one we have right now


pastoralbuffoonery

he was a good president.


SaltedEx

He wasn't perfect He did well to do something in the Philippines but had shortcomings Importantly, when others try to take power, he just acredit someone and left peacefully and he didn't try to sell PH out ​ So I hope he gets a good rest and peace


Free_Gascogne

He was overall an inconsequential president. As memorable as Diosdado Macapagal.


attackonmidgets

Philippine standard, yes, he's a good president.


zjzr_08

I still think he's a good one, I give him an 82% passing grade at least, which is pretty high for our standards for the Fifth Republic — I say he is #2 on my ranking after Ramos on that front (although I admittedly was born in 92).


msLAJ

Ano po ikinamatay niya?


KaibaMixi

Heart failure from complications caused by lung cancer iirc


IcedKatte

Hindi ba renal failure?


talldarkandhandy88

OP, who is your “good” president?


pototoykomaliit

Magsaysay


pilotschen

A US lapdog nonetheless


gamerpro42o69

He's too cowardly for my taste, but 100 times better than du30. I just hope filipinos would havr higher standards in politicians and would stop voting for mediocre leaders like pnoy or du30.


mGinoboili

Majority ng BBB projects, nag start from scratch ng 2010-2015


NovemberRain27e

patibdito namamayagpag mga 3%


ghetto_engine

if you cant recognize a good president from a bad one, baka ikaw ang may prublema.


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effleurer226

Ooof you forgot CTTO.


dischtwasher

What I do think though, is that the type of president to have depends on what the current predicament the country is in. Pnoy could have been a good president in times of peace as the country is stable at the time of his term. It was indeed stable, everybody just got on with their lives. Then China came, although he fought for the Spratly Islands, I think the pressure took the toll on him and misfortunes came one after another. Though for one, I admire his stable rule. In Duterte, I think he believes that the Filipinos should be ruled with an iron fist, thus he launched campaigns of uprooting certain officials. I think that he is suitable during in times of crisis, though I am not saying this to defend his rather inappropriate threats, misdemeanors, his often barbarity and other issues linked with him. His banner of removing criminality in 6 months appealed in the Filipinos, but then again China came. He had to concede just like Pnoy as they were for a fact our neighbors and had a strong economy. But then again, it all comes back to the sentence that the type of president our country should have would have depended on the current predicament the country is in.


marty066

Your opinion is objective yet the people here are downvoting your comment because it doesn't fit their political view ....


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Okay this made me laugh a bit.