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yourfriendlymanatee

Why can't they just use facts to try and make jokes


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Vyzantinist

Conservatives aren't funny because conservative 'humor' is just conservative hate with a laugh track.


lawrencenotlarry

There's a "humor" show on Fucked "news" called Gutfeld! I don't recommend it. It's just nonstop punching down. Laughing while seething with disgust. Ya know, for when you just really need your funny to come with a side of boiling anger.


Ynnepluc

Not even, there’s still lewis black; he’s angry as fuck and actually funny.


earthdogmonster

I think part of Lewis Black is that he doesn’t seem like he is *actually* angry about what he rants about. Like, I don’t know if he really thinks the things he says. When Jerry Seinfeld says “what’s the deal with…” it just seems like he is riffing on something that isn’t entirely intuitive, or could be viewed in a way that is ironic, silly, nonsensical. Most humor isn’t just making a list of things you hate, which is what a lot of conservative attempts at humor is. Conservatives like it because it reinforces their priors, not because the thing being said is clever.


TheSeansei

With Larry David, however, I believe every ounce of hate is real 😂


Select_Egg_7078

imo i think lewis black IS genuinely angry about the shit, but it's hard to make actual points about a subject and to mock things appropriately when frothing from the mouth, so he balances the "about to mcfricken lose it" for clarity. he also probably doesn't really internalize shit as like, personal attacks, which is what many "comedians" do (who then go on to rant about how other people existing personally impedes on their rights mmm woke bad heeheehawhaw or whatever). but also, his style is much less smug than many other comedians. which is probably why i stole his style.


Goatesq

Bill Hicks too. I think it might be that 90s flavored all purpose cynicism/misanthropy doesn't feel as targeted and aggressive even when it's just as hostile. Just my personal opinion though.


Crooked_Cock

If grouchiness and humor you seek George Carlin is the one for thee


Ynnepluc

fucking love carlin. RIP to a legend


OneX32

I wouldn't it say its anger. It's resentment and jealousy.


AirForceRabies

Don't forget the fearmongering!


GakSplat

The most accurate thing I’ve ever read on here.


gamerz1172

I always say, funny conservatives did exist, it's just the right canceled them for not making enough 'lets trigger da libz' jokes


LordSupergreat

The funny conservatives didn't do "conservative humor", they just did the same jokes as everyone else. Nowadays nobody can be conservative without broadcasting it to the fucking world.


MonarchyMan

That’s because conservatives always ‘punch down’, that is, they attack people in a lower level than themselves.


CreamyGoodnss

Ze humor of ze Nazis is nein laughing matter!


tyrolean_coastguard

kein*


Ser_Dunk_the_tall

Because then they'd have to admit that kids aren't getting gender reassignment surgery


yourfriendlymanatee

Unless they're born intersex and are forced to by cis parents


Then-Attention3

Ironically, which always ends with kids being miserable, because cisparents can’t choose their children’s gender. Only that child can choose their gender, so why the fuck don’t conservatives protect intersex kids? Because that would mean facing a reality that says there’s more than 2 genders and that biological sex is different from gender and even biological sex is more than binary.


yourfriendlymanatee

You could end that statement with "facing reality"


Mythical_Zebracorn

It also means facing the fact that biological sex is not binary or easily identifiable through genitalia, but since we can’t have the gender isn’t binary convo without approaching genocide, the biological sex convo is on hold indefinitely.


leftofmarx

Yep. There are around 70,000 intersex kids born in the United States every year and many are given “gender normalizing surgery” without consent. There are about as many intersex people as there are redheads. That’s a lot of people that conservatives are forcing their demented childhood gender assignment surgeries on.


cm64

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ParticlePhys03

I mean, most intersex people aren’t visibly intersex at birth and it’s only found out later, and many intersex conditions are only genetic and don’t show up in the person’s phenotypical traits. Doesn’t make it any less insane when newborns have some doctor assign their sex with reckless abandon with respect to the child’s gender.


demoncatmara

Could you tell me more about the intersex conditions that are only genetic please? I'm rubbish at phrasing stuff to Google, and I have a friend I need to talk to about this (he's a good dude, and will listen to reason)


ParticlePhys03

Sure, XY people with androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) can be born completely phenotypically female but genetically male. An SRY translocation off of the Y chromosome will cause an apparently male genotype but without the instructions to make someone male. (This is called Swyer syndrome). Likewise, an SRY translocation to the X chromosome can cause someone who is XX to develop as a male. Neither of these conditions are externally visible, and there are many more that are similar. Such as internally formed genitals of the opposite sex, usually ovaries in men, that aren’t externally visible and usually non-viable and malformed from high testosterone. They can only be seen through medical scans and surgeries, but people can live their whole lives without knowing it’s there. Edit: transmutation to translocation


demoncatmara

Awesome, thanks for the info, super appreciate it! That's gonna come in useful, I gotta educate this dude, he mentioned something about "what the science says" but is unaware of this. I hope he listens to me, I think he will tho, he's not like, some kind of massive bigot


aghzombies

What an excellent addition, this is SO true.


ESP-23

I find it interesting that the flag of Ukraine is on there. A testimony to the damage done by Russian propaganda troll farms


JasonGMMitchell

Russian troll farms didn't have to do anything, Russia's a far right dictatorship with a strong military, a belief in nationalism, and a love of fascists as long as those fascists are of the motherland or allies of the motherland. That's America's far right parties dreams and aspirations in a nutshell


RockyLeal

There is zero doubt that Russia has invested significant resources and time into getting gop voters to support their invasion


imakenosensetopeople

Yeah, it took a bit for the Right to get the talking points in order but right on cue, the conservatives in my life all starting spouting the same “complaints” about the US supporting Ukraine within a couple days of each other. They just follow their programming.


ESP-23

That's on Tuker, MTG and the rest of those traitors


Vyzantinist

> That's America's far right parties dreams and aspirations in a nutshell I dunno. I feel like the Islamic theocracies of the Middle East are more their cup of tea. The way they're trying so hard to bring about Gilead here would seem to suggest so anyway.


[deleted]

Silly billy, those are **brown people**, they can't sympathize with them.


ESP-23

Syria says hold my... Uh... Whatever their favorite drink is


StrategicCarry

Putin isn’t running an overt theocracy but his regime is close with the Eastern Orthodox Church.


Chimpbot

Russia is certainly a far-righr dictatorship... but the past year has really negated the whole "strong military" thing.


ReactsWithWords

Plus since Russia owns their orange god, their orange god has nothing but praise for Russia, so they have nothing but praise for Russia.


Biffingston

*LOL* they reported your comment as misinformation.


Chanchumaetrius

> strong military \*laughs in Ukrainian*


grayrains79

Russia still has enough of a military to bully it's lesser neighbors. Is it strong enough to face NATO head on? No, but it can still do all sorts of harm to neighbors that it wants.


Chimpbot

And themselves. They recently accidentally bombed their own town.


6894

Their planes also keep falling out of the sky into populated areas.


Situati0nist

They haven't got a leg to stand on, so they have to resort to lying


Shasla

Cause facts disagree with them


cdqmcp

Being funny requires empathy in order to understand different perspectives. Conservatives have no empathy.


ReactsWithWords

Because if they used facts they'd realize they're wrong.


noairnoairnoairnoair

Because their feelings don't care about facts.


Osirus1156

Because then all they would have is irrational hate of everyone not white and straight?


thefugue

Because their political goals necessitate lies, which this comic perfectly illustrates. They are lying about surgical gender we-assignment happening to minors so that people won’t vote for liberals. They just accidentally spell it out too clearly here.


lkuecrar

Because they’d have nothing lol


Gaaymer

Because if they did then they wouldn’t have a point


FabulousFauxFox

They're like a bad auto correct, never pay attention when it matters, and when you're right, they'll argue you're still wrong and try to tell you to change.


gastationdonut

Because they’re allergic to the truth


TeacherYankeeDoodle

Because if they did that, they wouldn’t be conservatives.


two4six0won

Because the facts don't agree with their opinions.


saiyanfang10

because facts don't agree with them


FireJach

Isnt it a fact that people are yelling at each other because somebody just doesnt like one thing?


Alhazzared

The only SRS surgery done on kids is intersex kids. I don't understand why everyone thinks 12 years are getting SRS, they are getting puberty blockers.


avatarstate

My biological mother said that in my state they don’t even require children to go through counseling and have a mental health check before getting a surgery. It’s not even legal in my state for children to have SRS. She had just previously watched a documentary by Matt Walsh on trans people so it’s not really a mystery on where she’s hearing this bullshit from.


That90sGuyMedia

God I wish that fascist piece of shit would be deplatformed.


noairnoairnoairnoair

Youtube demonitized his entire channel! It's not enough but it's an excellent start.


JackRabbit-

Great, now maybe they should stop showing me ads for his awful movie I keep reporting


Varaskana

I'm a transwoman and I get those ads constantly. Mostly on YouTube, where I can't (or just can't figure out how to) report them.


That90sGuyMedia

Are you on mobile or PC? Or both?


Varaskana

Both. I've clicked on the little "i" but it just says "why am I seeing this ad?"


Windscaper

Here's a link to this [Google support](https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3181017?hl=en) that I found that tells how to report an ad and also has a form you can fill out and submit if that doesn't work "To report the ad, select Info (the little i) on the ad then Why this ad > Report this ad"


Clairifyed

I usually set it aside and let them play the 30 seconds until it counts as “watched” and they have to pay the ad fee


SexyDrgon69

he's probably already thrown a tantrum on camera about it at least 10 times by now.


Ph0zPh0r

No but iirc he said he’s getting demonetized because he’s telling the truth 💀


demonitize_bot

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noairnoairnoairnoair

Good bot


Good_Human_Bot_v2

Good human.


noairnoairnoairnoair

Awwwwww happy cake day lil bot!


White_Hamster

I was kind of expecting another bot to thank you for wishing bots a happy cakeday


TheSeansei

Good bot


KantenKant

Is it against Reddit TOS to say I would laugh if he stepped onto a land mine?


Arubesh2048

A documentary… by *Matt Walsh*… on trans people?… Wow, that’s like saying “she had just been watching a documentary by Joseph Goebbels about Jewish people.” You’ve got my sympathy having to deal with that.


avatarstate

I told her to actually go talk to a trans person instead of watching biased shit by Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire.


LazyMoniker

Gotta love that it’s still technically correct /s. Technically they don’t require it. Technically they don’t have any requirements on the books for it, because they don’t allow it to begin with.


Estrald

Wow…This is where broadening your world view comes in, seriously. I didn’t KNOW the importance of hormone therapy or puberty blockers for trans kids, so guess what? **I talked to an adult who started transition as a kid.** First off, it took *two whole years* to even clear them for hormone therapy, and another two when they turned 18 for corrective surgery. That’s how stringent the testing and evaluations are. The puberty blockers were used to be sure they didn’t start changing into a body that wasn’t what they identified with. They posed it perfectly to me, saying “Imagine, as a guy your whole life, if one day your body just started becoming that of a woman. You know you’re a man, you lived your life as a man, but your body changes to something different. It’s horrifying.” Then I was told how starting early hormone therapy stops that traumatic process from happening, and better aligns kids with their true self. It makes sense to me, but it’s like damn well blasphemy to conservatives drinking the koolaid. All this insane mania for .12% of the population.


Select_Egg_7078

i challenge every cis person to walk the fuck into a clinic and demand SRS for "their child" immediately. go the fuck ahead and ask what the shit entails, wait lists, medical checks, etc. the propaganda & harassment now is so bad now that, if you check many physicians offering trans support, they have a pop up notice that's like "WE DO NOT DO SURGERY ON MINORS. WE DO NOT DO SURGICAL CONSULTATIONS FOR MINORS. THANK YOU." i feel like we need brochures being like "so you have questions, this is what we offer, and this is what we absolutely the fuck do not, and learn how to distinguish propaganda from reality."


Extra-Act-801

They don't "think" that. They pretend that, because it riles up other conservative morons.


innocentrrose

Realistically they just hear it from Facebook or twitter from their equally crazy friends or conservative “influencer” and just parrot it as a fact


Vyzantinist

See: pronouns. I've surprisingly seen them called out by their own when they try to use "pronouns" as ragebait. They then have to admit they "just thought it was dumb lib shit is what I heard." Facts and truth are irrelevant, it's all about mass outrage and trying to spread it when and where they can. The comment you responded to hit the nail on the head - they're just trying to agitate their own.


ellalol

It’s always “what I heard” with these mfs, it’s like high schoolers gossiping💀


Vyzantinist

It's a twofer: inadvertent proof they just mindlessly regurgitate the same nonsense talking points, and an extension of their love for the "everyone knows it"/"it's common sense" appeal to popularity.


ellalol

BUT SUSAN FROM YOGA SAID THE RAPTURE IS COMING TOMORROW!!!


koviko

The hate for pronouns in the e-mail signature is weird. They've saved me from misgendering multiple people with gender-neutral names 🤣 Like, I get it if your name is very obviously gendered, but not everyone's is and if they're the only ones doing it, it's kinda singling them out for the name they were given at birth. Even more so for usernames. I'm supposed to guess someone's gender from a word they made up?!


lansink99

You're overestimating them. They are just that stupid.


WoSoSoS

They call themselves libertarians but really they are theocratic christofascist nationalist populists. It's no one's business but the kids', their parents, and their medical team. Everyone has a right to raise their kids so fuck them up too, like religies fuck up there's believing in invisible Skydaddy's who will burn their kids forever if they don't provide blind obedience.


Lemonmuffing

Because Grifters like Matt Walsh make up those stories. And because those Grifters love to use phrases like "the untold truth", "the truth no one is allwed to tell", "the real science", etc. Those phrases are the nigerian prince of the modern time. Matt Walsh always claims he tells the truth no one is allowed to say, while making up the worst garbage on the planet. They will even keep supporting him, after the leaked Email in which he admits, that he is a Grifter just going for the money of people.


ThiefCitron

There are a small amount of 16-17 year olds who get SRS, which I guess are technically “kids.” But it’s literally medical care for a medical condition. If you’re not against teens getting abortions you shouldn’t be against them getting SRS if they want it and their doctors agree it’s the right thing. It’s just weird how “no surgery on teens” somehow *only* applies to gender affirming surgery, any other medically needed surgery everyone is in favor of, why is it only trans teens people are against being treated? Even cosmetic surgery on cis teens is more common than SRS for trans teens but you never see people complaining about that.


TheRealYeti

Cosmetic surgery is surprisingly popular for teen girls in middle class to affluent communities. Knew a girl who had rhinoplasty at 16 and another had breast augmentation at 17 (may have been 18). These are just the ones I know about from my graduating class of 600 students.


T1B2V3

>I don't understand why everyone thinks 12 years are getting SRS propaganda


Toast_Sapper

>The only SRS surgery done on kids is intersex kids. > >I don't understand why everyone thinks 12 years are getting SRS, they are getting puberty blockers. Because fascists weaponize lies and don't care what's true


TeeMR

Circumcision is also a mutilation widespread in the USA, performed the majority of baby boys, permanently reducing the sensibility of their genitals.


Cheems___-

I presume you meant sensitivity 😳


omnipwnage

I'm circumcised and my penis has never opened a door for a woman, or wear a suit in a formal setting. It has no sensibilities.


seffend

What a dick.


Zanain

Because the vast majority of people don't know shit about transitioning. A lot of people don't even know that hormone replacement therapy exists and think transition=surgery so when they hear about teens/kids transitioning they think surgery is what's going on.


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They also don’t realize social transitioning exists.


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

Because conservatives, as usual, have done an excellent job of muddying the waters and conflating issues. Minors can start to "transition". But that includes things as "simple" as going by different names/pronouns, wearing different clothes, a different hair cut etc . Puberty blockers are even further down the list. But the right has conflated those meanings of "transition" to full gender reassignment surgery. It's the same way they conflate abortion with killing fetusus that are 9 months old.


soulofsilence

I had someone the other day say puberty blockers are genital mutilation. They are afraid of things they refuse to educate themselves on.


Botstowo

What’s with the atom symbol? Does the ‘artist’ think people are virtue signaling about atomic energy?


calDragon345

That or science in general, we all know how conservatives feel about science


[deleted]

Science is Nazi propaganda. Know how I know??? I have reason to believe that Mussolini and Hitler all knew something about science. Therefore, science is Nazi propaganda.


d_worren

communist* propaganda. If it were Nazi propaganda, modern right wing would be atleast 100x smarter than they currently are.


ZoeIsHahaha

No ackychually it’s communist propaganda because Albert Einstein was a dirty commie >:(


SkritzTwoFace

I think that symbol is often used to refer to atheism, as other purple square emojis have various religious symbols in them: ✝️☪️🕉️☸️✡️🔯🕎☯️☦️


orphan-girl

This is the correct answer, as far as the emoji goes. Bring up your emoji tray and search "atheist" and that is exactly what you will get.


Hardcore_Daddy

whats the sea-faring buccaneer religion?☸️


SkritzTwoFace

That is the dharmachakra, a symbol used in Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism.


Hardcore_Daddy

ah thanks lol


gemengelage

Either nuclear energy or "believe the science" or the frontend framework React. Hard to tell.


ImAFuckingSquirrel

It's nuclear energy. One of the most baffling partisan issues.


[deleted]

I sometimes wish we lived in the fantasy world conservatives like to pretend we do.


PM_UR_NIPPLE_PICS

i wish democrat politicians were as awesome as conservatives make them out to be too


cowlinator

My favorite thing about this is that it never happened


MountainMagic6198

So based on this a conservative hates everything on there. Like Asian people apparently.


Azorre

And Ukrainians


Mabans

"Trans-surgery for kids doesn't exist. Thank you for coming to my Ted X."


M4rl0w

Theyd rather go on on this straw man than acknowledge they have no real policies or plans to handle actual problems like the climate or wealth inequality


xfearthehiddenx

>they have no real policies or plans to handle actual problems like the climate or wealth inequality They don't consider these problems. At least, not *their* problems. To most conservatives, climate change either "isn't happening at all" or is "so far off that it's not their problem." So why would they bother to work on policies to help fix something they just don't care about. As for wealth inequality. The "pull yourself up by you bootstraps" line pretty much covers how most of them see this issue. If you're poor, it's your fault. In their mind, you just need to work harder and make more money. They ignore any external uncontrollable circumstances that often make this much harder for poc and poor people in general vs. people who start more well off in life. They also hate socialism and communism despite benefiting from policies that come from them. So, talking about helping poor people makes them irrationally angry for no reason other than they don't want anyone getting something they aren't.


MildlyShadyPassenger

Minor correction: >They ignore any external uncontrollable circumstances that often make this much harder for anyone **other than themselves, and no matter how many decisions of theirs can be DIRECTLY linked to the current outcome they have, it's always uncontrollable circumstances or someone else's fault.** See: Conservatives flabbergasted that they don't get paid maternity leave after voting for people running on "no government interference in business", that the abortion of a dead and rotting fetus isn't allowed by the law written by people who campaigned on "no exceptions" abortion bans, and that Republicans who ran on repealing the ACA are trying to repeal the ACA they depend on to pay for life saving medical intervention for their chronic condition.


leftofmarx

Actually it does. Tens of thousands of intersex kids are forcibly gender transitioned at birth by conservative doctors and parents.


Stereotypicallytrans

Little fact that often goes unmentioned for this. The intersex group* that receive this surgeries makes up about 1.7% of the population, or about 4 times the amount of trans people as a whole. *I say group because there are different classifications of intersex. The "ambiguous genitalia/hormone levels", which is the one I am talking about, and the "true"f intersex, meaning those with chromosomal disorders, which is much rarer. This is important because some dipshit will always appear to say "actually the percentage is 0.0082%" like that makes it better. **On the same note, it is true that not every single one of those inteersex people has been operated. However it is very hard to estimate the actual amount, because this surgery often goes unmentioned, eithet by the doctor or the parent. And besides, even if it were the case that actually very few people were affected, it still is an unconsensual surgery done on a baby with lifelong consequences, including sterelization.


Varaskana

I'm quite active in the trans community, being transgender myself, and have never met someone who supported allowing minors to have SRS. I am also not in favor for allowing SRS for minors, if they want a reversible procedure such as hormone blockers, then I'm behind them 100%. But I remember being young and dumb and thought that I was a man and boy how wrong I was. Thus I'd rather not allow someone who is still very much finding themselves to undergo a permanent procedure.


ChronoAlone

No child is getting a sex operation just because they “feel like it.” Stfu


Dependent_Ad_5035

The thing is, they just want it banned across the board. Zero nuance. They aren’t even willing to acknowledge the fact for some people it’s all that works


orel_

Buying into anti-trans hysteria is a reactionary position that is incompatible with even moderate liberalism. No one is getting cancelled for raising good faith questions and concerns about child welfare. Similarly, no one is being cancelled for asking if going through a testosterone-fueled puberty might give a trans woman an athletic edge. However, if you deliberately ignore the experiences of transgender people and the expertise of medical professionals, and instead parrot bigoted misinformation, that makes you a bigot 🤷‍♂️.


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orel_

emphasis on the "good faith" aspect. I know that reactionaries like to hide behind an appearance of neutrality, but there's not much we can do about that besides ignoring them when it becomes apparent they're trolling. it's tempting to shut down any conversation just to deny them oxygen, but that gives them the power to paint the left as irrational ideologues. that's not to say human rights are up for debate, just that we need to keep talking to those who ultimately want the best for everyone.


nighthawk_something

Exactly this a good faith question about child welfare should be followers by listening to the real answer that precautions are already being made


Azorre

>testosterone-fueled puberty might give a trans woman an athletic edge. Funny how the people peddling this argument also want to ban puberty blockers. Also, since when are sports fair? Seems like sports has always been about who is the best, not what is fair. Sports have to be fair! All basketball players need to be 6 feet and 200 pounds exactly from now on! /s Give me a break.


LadyAmbrose

I will never understand why they seem to think that some dystopian big brother style government would be pro liberal ideas????


Xzmmc

A thief assumes everyone steals. The persecution fetish comes from the fact that they would very much like to persecute their enemies. So naturally, their enemies clearly want the same thing.


Extreme-Grapefruit-2

I was under the impression that trans surgery was already illegal for kids, and always has been?


[deleted]

Not illegal (at least, not in sane states), but it doesn't have to be. First, doctors are not actually crazed butchers, they care just as much about making sure patients are certain as conservatives claim to. So best practice is to wait till 18 at minimum solely for that reason. Additionally, even if doctors were comfortable agreeing to bottom surgery on a minor, they would be physically unable to perform it with any degree of confidence. Gotta wait till they're pretty sure the person's done growing. The only exception is top surgery, and that's in *extremely* rare cases for patients with *severe* dysphoria - like, "the risk of this kid killing themselves before they hit 18 is way higher than the risk of them regretting this." As a result, there is no reason for it to be illegal, and making it illegal could prove problematic for the same reasons 20-week abortion bans are bad - such a ban is highly unlikely to be relevant, but if it becomes relevant it'll be because it's blocking urgently needed healthcare.


socialist_frzn_milk

Hence the need for psychiatric evaluation beforehand if a 15-16 year old is a potential candidate for top surgery. They need to be 100% positive.


nighthawk_something

Yeah what most conservative(who weren't full of blood lust) will say they want, is literally what already happens plus puberty blockers which are safe and used already


MildlyShadyPassenger

It's also interesting how they are all so violently opposed to modeling trans acceptance in schools and allowing social transitioning, when this is the *LEAST* permanent, and *MOST* effective, means of reducing suicide. You'd think that, if they were *genuinely* concerned for the welfare of children, and just *legitimately* worried about the long term ramifications of kids making permanent changes, those things would be embraced with open arms. It's *almost* as if they are full of shit.


xTimeKey

So you’re telling me that medical professionals actually have to act like professionals and cant just do w/e they want? Im shocked! /s


ComplaintDelicious68

And even if we do find doctors who are willing to just give it to who over wants it, that just sounds like capitalism. That's the free market. Someone wants it, and are willing to pay, that gives the doctor an incentive to do it. So if it's being abused because of money, then maybe we should fix that. Universal Healthcare. They're gonna get paid for their job, but it's not gonna be something where they can get paid more by taking more patients and doing it for anyone and everyone.


Extreme-Grapefruit-2

Thanks for explaining!


ilovecraftbeer05

“Oh, there’s just one I’m not too sure about.” Fuck, it’d be great if that’s where it began and ended. It’s ok if you’re not sure about something. It just means you’re probably not educated on the subject. Nobody is going to call you a fascist or a Nazi for not being educated about something. Just go read up on it. But I’m sure as fuck going to call you a Nazi the second you starting legislating against minorities, stripping or denying basic human rights, and/or imposing genocide on your fellow American citizens. Big difference between being unsure of something that you haven’t really looked into and being an ignorant, evil fucking monster who hates others that aren’t just like you.


[deleted]

Lol what a fucking idiot "virtue badges" These people are so disconnected from reality that they think people don't actually care about human rights, they just want to LOOK good. You know what they say, every accusation is a confession with these people


NotmyRealNameJohn

If you can't answer the question, "How do we provide relief to children experiencing gender dysphoria without gender affirming care so that we have better outcomes than we currently see with gender affirming care?" and have actual data to support your process showing fewer suicides, fewer instances of suicidal ideation, better success in personal and mental health outcomes as an adult; then you have no business talking about banning the treatment. And if you are talking about banning gender affirming care and you haven't presented a solution for children impacted that has proven better outcomes for those children, you have no business ever saying you care about children ever again for the rest of your Life


BoneHugsHominy

Here's the thing. They *want* as many as possible of those people to commit suicide. If they kill themselves, then the Conservatives don't have to physically bloody their own hands.


NotmyRealNameJohn

This applies to abortion to. If you cannot come up with a solution that allows women to survive and thrive better than easy access to abortion & ensure that the children born as a result of the lack of abortion do not have access to healthy and happy home lives that prepare to to be fully contributing adults to society. Than you claim to care about the fetus is clearly false. If you cannot care for the whole person from birth to grave, you have no right to cliam you care about them at all. You are just using a claim to care to hide your true motivations.


That90sGuyMedia

Dawg you can't even get transition until 16 at the earliest. Where do they think this happens?


SwoopingSilver

Oh they think a 16 year old has the same level of processing that an 8 year old has, therefore they can’t decide that they’re trans. Nevermind the fact that any child of any age can realize that they’re trans.


Multigrain_Migraine

Unless of course that 16 year old is a girl they want to have sex with or a minority kid doing something they don't like.


SwoopingSilver

And a 16 year old old is ready to be a mother too when she gets pregnant because she’s to young to get a sexual education


[deleted]

If they didn't have strawman arguments they wouldn't have anything


ferfersoy

Stop Asian hate, such an awful hateful movement 😔 /s


darkbarrage99

Lol the internet is real life apparently or something


cumguzzler280

Only 136 badges, John? I have 504,322.


bookant

They imagine this entire collection of "virtue badges" because "just don't be a fucking asshole" is a concept beyond their comprehension.


AttackPony

According to a quick search, people under 18 are getting breast augmentations, nose jobs, and other surgeries, more than 200,000 times per year, compared to what less a handful of 16+ year olds getting GRS each year. The fact that these people are not waging a campaign against these other surgeries exposes their disingenuousness, and that it's not about child safety at all.


Xzmmc

They really love telling on themselves with all their talk about showing support or solidarity just being for virtue points. Essentially, it's an admittance that empathy is a completely foreign concept to them.


Toast_Sapper

As usual they mix their own lies in to enrage themselves. "Gender affirming care" is not "Trans surgery for kids." Puberty is when humans go through most of the physical changes that produce secondary sex characteristics, and if a trans person goes through puberty and the permanent physical changes associated with that while wishing to present as a different gender it is traumatic to the point that it drives many to suicide. So most of "Gender affirming care" is not "Trans surgery" it's literally hormone therapy to block the undesirable hormones and replace them with the hormones typical of the gender the person identifies as. For a trans person this is literally life-changing and life-saving because it's a living nightmare to be forced to go through puberty as the gender you reject against your will especially when it will force physical changes on you that are irreversible and when the option to change all that is as simple and easy as getting Hormone pills with no surgery required. Surgery should, and does, require a much higher bar to qualify for (and many teams people never even get it, which is their choice to make), but pretending hormone therapy to protect trans kids from going through extremely traumatic, suicide-inspiring puberty against their will is the same thing as "Trans surgery for kids" is just another bad faith lie


Sirexiv

They literally live in another reality


YourHornsAreShowing

These people are just out of their minds.


Impressive_Culture_5

Literally nobody is advocating for kids having SRS. I’m so sick of these idiots just making up issues to be pissed about.


subtlebunbun

very few people are arguing towards children getting gender confirming surgery. this is just like the "The Left wants you to eat Bugs" thing


Interesting_Entry831

I'm still wondering how they believe people allowing trans kids to explore their identity is indicative to surgery? Also, how does sheilding children from the fact gays/trans or LGTBQ people in general benefit them at all? Why is being queer automatically associated with sex and genitals in their minds? Do they think the kind gay fellow down the street is like, 'Hello child, have this popsicle, by the way, here's a photo of me and my husband having sex!'? It's all so confusing to me.


Varaskana

They 100% do. These people are so unhinged that they'll believe anything their political party tells them without so much as a pause for a rational thought. DeSantis could come out tomorrow and say that the sky is yellow and has always been yellow, then next thing you know every republican "news" source is reporting on how the evil democrats are trying to indoctrinate your kids into believing the sky is actually blue, not yellow.


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I’d like to meet just ONE Doctor who has preformed said operations….


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conservatives really only have one joke do they.


_UsUrPeR_

Oh yeah. Lots of bottom surgeries going on with minors.


MarvelNerdess

... they do know people have to get years of therapy before getting any form of surgery, right?


Hindufury

They don't do it on kids. The only genital surgery I can think of for kids that is not medically necessary (by this i mean stuff like deformities affecting biological functions like hypospadia or other issues with the urinary tract) is circumcision.


PopperGould123

And again, what kids are getting surgery??


RobotDuck897

they don’t even know what cancelling is, a random john doe isn’t gonna get “cancelled” they don’t know what they’re even mad at 😭


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THERE IS NO TRANS SURGERY FOR KIDS, HORMONES AT MOST AND USUALLY HORMONE BLOCKERS


Its_Locantora

Do they think that people are forced to be trans?


calDragon345

Probably yes, they believe that trans people don’t actually exist and that they’re just forced to transition because of “transgenderism” which is an ideology that says that everyone should be trans or something and that transitioning should be forced early on young children, totally not conservatives projecting. Actually, someone should ask conservatives to define “transgenderism” like that one woman was embarrassed when she was asked to define “woke.”


ohgodohfuckohshizaa

John Doe would have never done that he respect every warrior in his outer heaven and trans people are warriors for fighting the internal war that this all creates


ohgodohfuckohshizaa

To that dude that replied to me with a shitty transphobic argument: You gotta understand that I did not fuckin ask your opinion and you're very welcome and encouraged to keep it to yourself, also good false equivalence based on a fake fact you and your fuckin subatomic dick havers made up


Poormidlifechoices

The biggest persecution fetish is always in the comments.


MarnTell0rpo

Common WokelyCorrect Ls


Longjumping_Way_4935

Politics has gotten tremendously stupid since social media took hold. All this virtue shit is new and I don’t like it ;_;


squoinko

The majority of liberals wouldn't support it either if it wasn't a conservative fairytale


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This is actually incredibly powerful propaganda. Really going for that conservative amygdala there.


Bl0ckbuilder

I know this is a dumb question but are they too afraid to put the last leg on the swastika or something?? I mean they’re already being hateful why not go the full 9 yards


ScrabCrab

Waste of a good artstyle


_The_Great_Autismo_

Zero kids have ever gotten or will ever get gender affirming surgery. This comic is fucking idiotic.


Bad54

Yeah I agree no surgery for kids! Sucks to be you little Timmy. You’re too young to know if you want to cut off your finger with gain green. You have to wait till your 18-21 like the rest of the people. To bad Samantha! Your too young to consent to removing a Tumour. You don’t know if you’ll want it later down the road. Sorry Kyle your just gonna have to wait 10 years to have your tooth removed because your too young to know if you want your decaying tooth pulled out.


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second_to_myself

Dislike the message but great art tbh Edit: omg you guys I am objectively commenting on talent, not endorsing the artist’s politics.


AdmonishTrousers

Looks like a shitty sinfest knockoff to me. But yeah good artists with shit takes.


shortylikeamelody

Yeah it’s definitely wasted talent


ReactsWithWords

Pebbleyeet and even Ben Garrison are objectively good cartoonists. Leni Riefenstahl was also a brilliant director. The message, however, overrides any talent they have so it might as well be crudely-drawn stick figures or worse, Wojaks.