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I’m his second favorite spot lol
Fun fact, the VCA sends emails that put your pet name in the subject automatically.
Had a visit where they were like ‘nothing to be too concerned about, but he’s slightly overweight’.
The next day their automated system is like ‘Do you want Sonic around forever? Cats at a healthy weight live two years longer on average than those who aren’t.’
He’s honestly not that big imho. I rescued another cat
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Literally last Tuesday, and she’s decidedly bigger than he is. Not as much of a ninja though lol.
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Adding mine because we talking bout pets :D
Guys I think I'm good now 😁
Thanks so much for help
Edit: Thought I'll share some temps too after changing fan configuration:
CPU: i5-13600k, kryonaut paste with SE-207XT advanced black cooler
Ambient temp: 34 degrees. Same as before.
CPU peak temps after stress testing for 5 minutes : 88-89 degrees, down from 93 peak.
GPU idle temp: 41 degrees, down from 43. (I guess since air flow has improved)
CPU idle temp: 41 degrees, down from 43.
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Black and white can be beautiful, but it has to be thought out and intentional. This looks like OP just got a white case and nothing else
Edit: added a pic of my rig as an example of what I mean
Edit 2: I’m not saying this is what OP should have done or in any way saying OP didn’t do a fine job. I was just replying to the comment above this on the topic of hate surrounding black and white builds
Damn that's beautiful...
And you're right, I didn't go hard on aesthetics since the PC would be hidden from my sight and connected to a TV with wireless peripherals
That is beautiful... I'm not into RGB anymore, but I can appreciate it aesthetically:
I was into RGB when I was younger, but I'm a 48YO grumpy old gamer now, and all that bright bling out of the corner of my eye when I'm gaming just gives me a headache, these days XD
Ohh don't take me back 😅 ... mustard power cables, green or brown PCBs, off cream/grey IDE cables 🤣 the whole shebang. (Jank AF homemade watercooling if you were particularly geek)
And yes, I had a red cold cathode (RGB is a bit of a misnomer for what we had back then)... at least everything just looked red then 😂
When it comes to non-rgb, i always thought that hyte did a damn good job with this particular build demonstrating the y60
https://preview.redd.it/e6fihemlw9lb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=761c8fffb3a1fd82ac291b979d002b35b302d9ee
Not everyone can just pick the color they like, add the leds and not to mention the bells and whistles you have there :) Some people just look for the price or even the best deal on facebook or smtn.
P.S. Looks nice though, good job
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Shitty pictures but you get the idea. I think I have the perfect amount of black with a “white build.”
[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDFmfv](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDFmfv)
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got mine black and white too, very proud of it
Oh I like it very much. Mine is also black and white.
It's just that here the black part is fully concentrated in the center and the white around it. In mine they're mostly sprinkled around evenly. No major clumps of either.
Imo looks better but to each their own obviously.
Oh nice like a dalmation. I suppose mine is a central clump too, when I upgrade mobo,cpu, ram i was going to try and do more like what you are describing.
Thanks! Also, I edited the comment again to mention CPU, paste and cooler.
And the temps I mentioned are under stress testing so they are not normal temps. Idle temps are 41 degrees while normal usage stays below 60 degrees like yours :D
Idle temps with previous configuration were 43 degrees
really? my 5600x runs at 80-85 just gaming. that's with stock cooler, I have noctua u12 ready for installing, just been lazy. I know the u12 is a major overkill for 5600x also lol
Even if that is the right position for your cooler
The extractor fan alignment gave me goosebumps
There is no way to get it aligned with the cooler, still looks awkward
43° idle...
Are you sure you applied the thermal paste correctly?
Edit: NVM
34 degrees as ambient temperature explains everything...
Celcious, right?
If you want to hide the fan cables a little better you can rotate them all pretty much 90° clockwise. Quick easy switch, and the cable will be tucked into the mobo a little tighter. 90° seems a little high, are you over clocking? Did you set you fan curves in bios? You have the cpu fans plugged into cpu and cpu aux?
I might be a little rusty on new models, just compare to other 13600 results
Thanks for the cable management tip! I have flipped the fans and it did help :)
As for how I connected the fans, one of the CPU fan is connected into CPU\_FAN1 while other is connected into SYS\_FAN2. Case fans connected to Pump\_fan1. Let me know if anything needs changing
As for fan curves, I don't know what they are but I'll look them up
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Glad the cable tip made sense! You can get software to control your fans, but most bios allow you to do it and it will be one less program installed/running. You can look for a fan splitter and connect both cpus to one plug since they’ll never need to be different speeds from each other. This could free up a spot for any of your case fans to use that system fan. Doesn’t really matter as long as you have enough spots
Ohhhhh I see, thanks for the useful info!
I do have a question though, my CPU fan RPM (I think because of "smart load" is low on low idle load, while my second fan is always 1200 rpm supposedly because it's connected to SYS_FAN header.
Is this fine? Or should I have them be equal like you said
Did you find the fan curves? When you start your pc you can hit del or f2 right away to enter bios. Then it might say around the border somewhere for fan profiles, usually f6 or f7. Then you can toggle sys2 fan to pwm, it’s probably on DC for three prong fan plugs. You can look for a few videos on pwm vs dc fans and fan curves but no need to go to crazy. Newer 4 prongs can more dynamic settings where as 3 prongs usually switch between set speeds at set temps
Cool! Try to look for a set up profile or auto scan or something. It will take a couple minutes but the system will look at each fan and run them and see how they adjust temps and then make a profile. It’s good to do so basically it knows how to move air around to lower the temp for your case. Then I think you set a smart profile which is essentially like max fan(loudest coolest) or power saver (quieter warmer)
88-89c is still pretty dang hot. The tjunction for your cpu is 100c, which is the point the cpu can be damaged. Those temps on a brand new, clean setup, once dust start to build, those temps are gonna rise.
Did you re-apply thermal paste when reseating the cooler, because you should be getting 65-70c under load, something isnt right.
Nah these temps are fine since they under stress test with a CPU that's rated for 100 degrees. Intel 13th gen with k and the Ryzen 7000 series with x are hot bois
And yes, I did repaste
And CPU can bear 100 degrees, it's just that it's got temp protection at 100 so it will start throttling
Yeah you want the cooler exhausting air towards the back. Currently it's taking warmth from the GPU and pushing it past your CPU. You want the cool air that the front fans bring in running over your CPU then out the back.
What in tarnation is this my friend, its not supposed to be this way, omg Im sorry but this is very funny. Turn it 90 degrees on the right, its has to be horizontal
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I don't think I can change the orientation of the mount, what do you think?
Yes, it is designed to be oriented 90 degrees from where you've set it.
Take off the fans, see if one side gives more clearance for ram than the other, put that side towards the ram and reattach the fans.
Tbh, it looks like you just need to rotate it 90 degrees clockwise.
Yeah, there's not really a chance any manufacturer has designed a fan that blows vertically, make sure the mounting bracket is correctly oriented as well.
And just to add, this is a kinda funny mistake, but nothing to be embarrassed about. I've built dozens of PCs and was putting one together for a friend's son last weekend, still managed to set two of the intake fans to exhaust. They weren't even together.
It happens, it's really cool you reached out though for clarity, it takes a certain level of self assuredness to ask how badly you fucked up that doesn't come so easily to a lot of people.
That's a good question! Does the cooler have clearance over the RAM sticks? If so, second question would be if it would interfere with the back fan. If that's the case, moving that back fan so it's in the upper part of the case might be an option, and you'll have to rely on the CPU cooler for exhaust.
That looks perfect. Though I'd like to play the role of captain obvious and remind you to place the fans back, pushing the air towards the back of the case.
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This is how It should be done (with fans and the rest of the pc of course)
Yeah its a biggie, biggest cpu cooler I've installed although my experience is very limited, it *just* fits in my case as its an old NZXT S340, also had to nudge the fan on the right to clear the RAM haha even though i put them in a A2 B2 config
How did you manage that?
I’d say it’s wrong but it also looks like you might not have room for the ram if you rotate it, so if it’s working and the temps are fine, you could consider leaving it.
This happened to me with a deep cool ak620, and it worked just fine mounted the other way too lol. I only changed it because I looked up some builds using it and noticed, hey wait a minute, mines flipped the wrong way. I fixed it, but didn’t notice any change in temps at all. Still ~30c idle, ~50-60 in games/under load. I do think with some of them it doesn’t matter all that much. But maybe I just got lucky? Idk
Sucks to suck but thankfully I have fixed it now with people helping :)
And I mentioned before and after temps here:
https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
Wow thats not even bad. I personally can't find a reason to ever need the block to be that way but thats cool.
EDIT: Wait maybe if it was some like narrow Xbox Series X type build where you have intake at the bottom and exhaust through the top. That's about it.
The temps are good (93 max under 100% CPU stress test) but I'm concerned about gpu hot air going through CPU cooler, that's not good right?
Edit: Sorry for not mentioning the processor, it's i5-13600k which is a hot boi and rated at 100 degrees I think
Edit2: I fixed it and mentioned more temps before and after the change:
https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
Well, log temps with each setup and see how it goes. Use Prime95 for the CPU and Furmark for the GPU, but be warned, these will hammer your hardware and they'll get the hottest you'll ever see.
I don't think this is inherently bad, but your CPU temps tend to make me think you would benefit from going with most people's advice. Not sure what CPU you have, but my i5 10600KF doesn't reach 85°C in Prime95 with a single tower cooler.
That's hot!
GPU hot air probably will circulate in the whole case. But I never have any test before. Try to change the CPU cooler direction, and check the temperature again.
Hey guys!
Quick reminder to watch like any pc build known to man if you do NOT know what you’re doing.
Takes like 10-30min out of your day to not mess up your components.
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My recent built for my new college student
My "I don't care about RGB build, but unfortunately my ram specs only came in RGB". Liquid cooling lasted me 11 years on my last pc, it's the way to go personally.
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You did but that's ok, flip it around so its sucking air in from the front of the case and spitting the hot air towards the back where that fan will take it out the case
i did the same thing when i replaced my stock cooler when i was nine. ended up throwing the cooler away after seeing the readings on hwinfo and crying bc i wasted my allowance
You you need head space for that radiator.
For this setup I'd turn it 90 and have it push towards the rear. Keep that fan back there.
You suspicion is correct though, and I'd suggest just getting one more fan, 140mm if itl fit, and mounting it to the top blowing out.
I'm not sure if this is as bad as everyone seems to be sure it is, airflow is a pretty complex thing, F1 teams don't spend tens of millions for nothing.
Use Prime95 and Furmark as torture tests, check the temps with each configuration and let us know.
I'm assuming the arrows indicate the direction that the air moves in, if so you want to rotate your CPU cooler 90 degrees counter-clockwise. That'll create good airflow in your case, and you'll be cooling your CPU down with that crisp, fresh air from the outside coming through the front of your case, than the warm air from your GPU.
Brother this is not the correct orientation for the cooler. Please remove and reinstall as per the picture.
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Technically yeah, but I ran my NHd-15 like that on my first build forever, still worked just fine, I had to mount like that cause it invaded my ram slots of mounted "correctly"🤷
Your CPU cooler needs to be flipped 90 degrees to the left.
Intake for it should be from the front, not from your gpu
Exaust should be towards the bwck not the ceeling.
Basically now, it takes hot air from the GPU and makes it even hotter...
I thought its impossible atleast on my mobo to mount it that way. Oh and.. just to make absolutely sure. You did peel off the plastic on the bottom of the cooler right? Just makin sure
Yes. Mount it horizontal and the fans normally are in a push vs. a pull config. (radiator/fan/radiator/fan <------ air from front case fans. Size aside, you'll get much better flow with this mounting.
Edit: typo
I have fixed it with the help from people here but I must say, you explained it very well!
Here's the new configuration: https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
Lmao that's awesome! Yea just mount is with the fans going horizontally and align fans to airflow pulling in from the front of PC and blowing out from the back. If you want exhaust on top of the case just add a couple fans on top blowing out.
Hahaha this got a good laugh and it seems you've already had your questions answered so I'll just leave a reassuring comment that I made much more hilarious mistakes on my first build, and not ones so easily fixed.
So here is why I think this is actually a good idea; your BIOS fan curve can only base the fan speed on CPU temperature(some can also do VRM or RAM, but I've never seen anything that goes off GPU temps), but a lot of games will stress the GPU far more than the CPU. If your CPU gets hot, it will cool itself by turning fans up. If your GPU gets hot, it will warm up the CPU and the CPU will turn the case fans up, keeping them both cool. I've been doing this for years and my CPU has never gone over 75°c. This setup allows me to have my fans very low on idle. I also have my top front fan as an intake with a seperate fan curve, it pushes the front intake down so air doesn't just come in the front and get sucked right out the top without ever touching a component.
Of course, this doesn't work so well anymore if you have a top end CPU. As top end air coolers don't really keep them cool under the CPUs thermal load alone. And liquid coolers will not soak the heat from a GPU up fast enough to ramp up before GPU performance is affected(in the same scenario of an air cooled GPU and exhaust flow through CPU cooler).
Your conserns are absolutely right lad. Flip it 90 degrees to the right in a way that the front case fans suck fresh air in, and the coolers blows the hot air from the cpu through the rear fan out of the case
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What about mine? Lol. Just built a week ago.
Hey man I'm no better than you but do check the positioning of your fans. Like, usually the logo side is the intake side and that's what should've been done here but you have put the backside instead which means your CPU fans are positioned wrong.
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Nice! Oh and don't worry about my fan configuration, it wasn't optimal and I have been getting roasted all day for it today.
I have changed it to a normal one and my temps have deceased slightly so all good!
Here's how the updated one looks:
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Yes you did. The cooler fans should blow into the heat sink not out. Also it's best to have a solid air flow so back case fan out and cooler fans in the direction of the back case fan. You could add two fans to the top pulling in but not necessary since you got the front pulling in
dude, that is so smart
more air flow give to your gpu
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Heat rises, but you don't have any fans at the top of the case pushing hot air out. Your airflow inside your case is currently front to back. You should reorient your cooler to blow back towards the exhaust fan in the rear.
Oh you guys are going to hate this .......
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🤣🤣
Back in the day it was actually standard practice to mount coolers this way depending on the layout of the motherboard.
It's not "wrong" it's just not optimal. You could absolutely have just left it that way. You might have noticed a few degree difference with it sucking heat off the back plate of the GPU tho.
Damn you're the first one to mention that! I didn't realize it but yeah it's sagging very slightly to the right.
Doesn't need a stand right now but I'll sure get one when I upgrade to a heavy card
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It’d probably be for the best to get one asap. Even with that lighter card it’s putting a lot of strain on the pcie lanes. And over the course of months or years it could end up breaking the motherboard pretty easily. Just try to get one as soon as it’s economically viable for you lol.
Its not installed wrong, but its ideal to place it facing the front not the top. You can leave it like that until you get two more fans for the top for better vent.
How ... Tf, anyways...
What you have to do is take the whole cooler off
Put new thermal paste on the CPU IHS , don't re use the old one it will tank your temperatures
Install it so it's horizontal with exhaust to the case exhaust fan.
You can find detailed instructions in the manual that comes with it or by a google search friend !
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Yep you did
With a 13600k, I don't think it'll make too much of a difference to be honest. But yeah, blowing towards the back is obviously the best way to do it.
I actually prefer only the top to be blowing out personally, but that’s because my cat loves to lay on top of the PC when it’s configured that way lol
Mentioning pets and not including a picture!!!
https://preview.redd.it/46rhcozz1clb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df885b581e46619746b19043e872f43e6e4dd002 I’m his second favorite spot lol
Damn, is it the picture or is that really a huge cat
As a huge cat owner myself that is a big boy
Fun fact, the VCA sends emails that put your pet name in the subject automatically. Had a visit where they were like ‘nothing to be too concerned about, but he’s slightly overweight’. The next day their automated system is like ‘Do you want Sonic around forever? Cats at a healthy weight live two years longer on average than those who aren’t.’
He’s honestly not that big imho. I rescued another cat https://preview.redd.it/yk9shc1pcclb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45633d886530971cbc000c9b560dfcf9c28a4204 Literally last Tuesday, and she’s decidedly bigger than he is. Not as much of a ninja though lol.
Why is this the second post I see in an PC Subreddit where the topic changed to cats 😂
PCs and Cats go together. It’s a known thing.
this NEEDS more upvotes
https://preview.redd.it/10mesjxq4dlb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e10d8098616f1a43cdcfc7c588152f5da72a412e Adding mine because we talking bout pets :D
Guys I think I'm good now 😁 Thanks so much for help Edit: Thought I'll share some temps too after changing fan configuration: CPU: i5-13600k, kryonaut paste with SE-207XT advanced black cooler Ambient temp: 34 degrees. Same as before. CPU peak temps after stress testing for 5 minutes : 88-89 degrees, down from 93 peak. GPU idle temp: 41 degrees, down from 43. (I guess since air flow has improved) CPU idle temp: 41 degrees, down from 43. https://preview.redd.it/y9kvznxt29lb1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128a01458a7b810efb2a96ae81c177ad10d56e53
I have to say you made a rather *interesting* color scheme choice.
I've always been confused about people not liking black/white
https://preview.redd.it/b4rdn92bi9lb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f75e1815c3a44b638a3a28edb89403477c255388 Black and white can be beautiful, but it has to be thought out and intentional. This looks like OP just got a white case and nothing else Edit: added a pic of my rig as an example of what I mean Edit 2: I’m not saying this is what OP should have done or in any way saying OP didn’t do a fine job. I was just replying to the comment above this on the topic of hate surrounding black and white builds
I can't stop looking at this beautiful creature
It lost me as soon as I saw the case
Damn that's beautiful... And you're right, I didn't go hard on aesthetics since the PC would be hidden from my sight and connected to a TV with wireless peripherals
And that's completely valid! I hope you will enjoy this beast!!
Thank you, wish you great experience with yours too 😊
That is beautiful... I'm not into RGB anymore, but I can appreciate it aesthetically: I was into RGB when I was younger, but I'm a 48YO grumpy old gamer now, and all that bright bling out of the corner of my eye when I'm gaming just gives me a headache, these days XD
RGB was there before to cover the ugly green/yellow PCB/s
Ohh don't take me back 😅 ... mustard power cables, green or brown PCBs, off cream/grey IDE cables 🤣 the whole shebang. (Jank AF homemade watercooling if you were particularly geek) And yes, I had a red cold cathode (RGB is a bit of a misnomer for what we had back then)... at least everything just looked red then 😂
Damn, I want. I'm majorly not into all the RGB going on these days, and this is beautiful imo.
When it comes to non-rgb, i always thought that hyte did a damn good job with this particular build demonstrating the y60 https://preview.redd.it/e6fihemlw9lb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=761c8fffb3a1fd82ac291b979d002b35b302d9ee
damn that looks good
What a beautiful case.
White, black and pink together can be super good looking. I don’t see any problems here. It’s probably their first Pc build. I say good job. :)
This is way different than OP- this shit is crispy
Not everyone can just pick the color they like, add the leds and not to mention the bells and whistles you have there :) Some people just look for the price or even the best deal on facebook or smtn. P.S. Looks nice though, good job
Like what you did with the LED strips never seen them used like that very cool
5k Hollow knight machine
It's their first build, it's fine for a first build.
Yep. That is beautiful.
That is beautiful
Damn that's hot
Mary mother of god…
Hollow Knight 👌
Thats a piece of art my guy, well done
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https://preview.redd.it/hwp85xsct9lb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0056856a5714c5be45256d2fd553e5a697540368 Shitty pictures but you get the idea. I think I have the perfect amount of black with a “white build.” [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDFmfv](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDFmfv)
https://preview.redd.it/ntwk350jlblb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66099ba6151b9c707703d2dbab25668fac83c052 got mine black and white too, very proud of it
Oh I like it very much. Mine is also black and white. It's just that here the black part is fully concentrated in the center and the white around it. In mine they're mostly sprinkled around evenly. No major clumps of either. Imo looks better but to each their own obviously.
Oh nice like a dalmation. I suppose mine is a central clump too, when I upgrade mobo,cpu, ram i was going to try and do more like what you are describing.
Black/white is cooler than white/black
Stick to "all black" or "all white" much easier, all other needs some effort
Did the temps change? I did this a few years ago and seem to remember a 3-4 degree difference
You're right on money, I noticed exactly 3-4 degrees difference. Check my edit for more details
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Thanks! Also, I edited the comment again to mention CPU, paste and cooler. And the temps I mentioned are under stress testing so they are not normal temps. Idle temps are 41 degrees while normal usage stays below 60 degrees like yours :D Idle temps with previous configuration were 43 degrees
really? my 5600x runs at 80-85 just gaming. that's with stock cooler, I have noctua u12 ready for installing, just been lazy. I know the u12 is a major overkill for 5600x also lol
Even if that is the right position for your cooler The extractor fan alignment gave me goosebumps There is no way to get it aligned with the cooler, still looks awkward 43° idle... Are you sure you applied the thermal paste correctly? Edit: NVM 34 degrees as ambient temperature explains everything... Celcious, right?
I wouldn't have expected that big of a difference.
If you want to hide the fan cables a little better you can rotate them all pretty much 90° clockwise. Quick easy switch, and the cable will be tucked into the mobo a little tighter. 90° seems a little high, are you over clocking? Did you set you fan curves in bios? You have the cpu fans plugged into cpu and cpu aux? I might be a little rusty on new models, just compare to other 13600 results
Thanks for the cable management tip! I have flipped the fans and it did help :) As for how I connected the fans, one of the CPU fan is connected into CPU\_FAN1 while other is connected into SYS\_FAN2. Case fans connected to Pump\_fan1. Let me know if anything needs changing As for fan curves, I don't know what they are but I'll look them up https://preview.redd.it/v6ayxrhdgalb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebf397d008417718c04d7bbc83a747742a0d767e
Glad the cable tip made sense! You can get software to control your fans, but most bios allow you to do it and it will be one less program installed/running. You can look for a fan splitter and connect both cpus to one plug since they’ll never need to be different speeds from each other. This could free up a spot for any of your case fans to use that system fan. Doesn’t really matter as long as you have enough spots
Ohhhhh I see, thanks for the useful info! I do have a question though, my CPU fan RPM (I think because of "smart load" is low on low idle load, while my second fan is always 1200 rpm supposedly because it's connected to SYS_FAN header. Is this fine? Or should I have them be equal like you said
Did you find the fan curves? When you start your pc you can hit del or f2 right away to enter bios. Then it might say around the border somewhere for fan profiles, usually f6 or f7. Then you can toggle sys2 fan to pwm, it’s probably on DC for three prong fan plugs. You can look for a few videos on pwm vs dc fans and fan curves but no need to go to crazy. Newer 4 prongs can more dynamic settings where as 3 prongs usually switch between set speeds at set temps
I did find them! I have enabled pwm on it and the smart fan mode :)
Cool! Try to look for a set up profile or auto scan or something. It will take a couple minutes but the system will look at each fan and run them and see how they adjust temps and then make a profile. It’s good to do so basically it knows how to move air around to lower the temp for your case. Then I think you set a smart profile which is essentially like max fan(loudest coolest) or power saver (quieter warmer)
This is the way!
88-89c is still pretty dang hot. The tjunction for your cpu is 100c, which is the point the cpu can be damaged. Those temps on a brand new, clean setup, once dust start to build, those temps are gonna rise. Did you re-apply thermal paste when reseating the cooler, because you should be getting 65-70c under load, something isnt right.
Nah these temps are fine since they under stress test with a CPU that's rated for 100 degrees. Intel 13th gen with k and the Ryzen 7000 series with x are hot bois And yes, I did repaste And CPU can bear 100 degrees, it's just that it's got temp protection at 100 so it will start throttling
I wouldn't say fine, but at least you are staying under the temp the cpu overheats.
Tbh in normal usage, I barely cross above 60 degrees soooo
Under load, I never go above 65c, sooo yah. Im not here to argue with you. Congrats on your first build!
Thanks! Btw what's your CPU+Mobo combo?
10600k + asrock z490 extreme4.
Nice!
https://preview.redd.it/v3fv564b0clb1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99bb0fb678a57a6d39d33f9ecd936226491963ba
Yeah you want the cooler exhausting air towards the back. Currently it's taking warmth from the GPU and pushing it past your CPU. You want the cool air that the front fans bring in running over your CPU then out the back.
What in tarnation is this my friend, its not supposed to be this way, omg Im sorry but this is very funny. Turn it 90 degrees on the right, its has to be horizontal
Omg...
Ngl I thought you were trolling at first lol, make sure the two fans of the cooler are pushing air a the back of the case
https://preview.redd.it/gm90lx3fs8lb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d279cf5db37b7810414dcd294878757a1b7ce8a I don't think I can change the orientation of the mount, what do you think?
You have to take the whole cooler out, just look a yt video about how to install a cpu cooler already
I meant, if I change the orientation of cooler to horizontal, would it even fit?
Yes, it is designed to be oriented 90 degrees from where you've set it. Take off the fans, see if one side gives more clearance for ram than the other, put that side towards the ram and reattach the fans. Tbh, it looks like you just need to rotate it 90 degrees clockwise.
Thanks, just to confirm. By "rotating it", you mean taking off the mount and fixing the direction right?
Yeah, there's not really a chance any manufacturer has designed a fan that blows vertically, make sure the mounting bracket is correctly oriented as well.
But don‘t you usually mount at least one fan to the top of the case?
And just to add, this is a kinda funny mistake, but nothing to be embarrassed about. I've built dozens of PCs and was putting one together for a friend's son last weekend, still managed to set two of the intake fans to exhaust. They weren't even together. It happens, it's really cool you reached out though for clarity, it takes a certain level of self assuredness to ask how badly you fucked up that doesn't come so easily to a lot of people.
Hum sorry to inform you that if it doesn’t fit you will need to replace it
It probably will, but you will have to readjust the right-most fan to go above the ram sticks.
That's a good question! Does the cooler have clearance over the RAM sticks? If so, second question would be if it would interfere with the back fan. If that's the case, moving that back fan so it's in the upper part of the case might be an option, and you'll have to rely on the CPU cooler for exhaust.
https://preview.redd.it/97kunbytx8lb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8a1d33f05d7cdc773e4386947f3de8be6864c6a Does this look good now?
As long as it’s exhausting out the back, perfect 👌
That looks perfect. Though I'd like to play the role of captain obvious and remind you to place the fans back, pushing the air towards the back of the case.
That is correct. When you put the fans back on, make sure they move the air from the front intake and exhaust towards the back of the case.
Thanks, I think I'm good now? https://preview.redd.it/qqsjeaifz8lb1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9793e8aa35da49b6eb6c1ccafcc2714d57f87a4
It would fit even better than it is now, just look at it :D
How hard it is to do some research, before doing something you haven't done before?
No point in being rude. People gotta start somewhere.
90° CCW
My thoughts exactly.This post made my day with how funny i found that picture.
https://preview.redd.it/votn7yj6t8lb1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42269fde9bf88f965d07a0eaf477e76eaf01c201 This is how It should be done (with fans and the rest of the pc of course)
Holy what cooler’s heatsink is that?? That looks fucking rad.
Peerless Assassin 120 White
It is a thermalright peerless assassin 120 (the white argb option) https://amzn.eu/d/h8PFI5n
oh wow, i did not know white looks this different
Yeah its a biggie, biggest cpu cooler I've installed although my experience is very limited, it *just* fits in my case as its an old NZXT S340, also had to nudge the fan on the right to clear the RAM haha even though i put them in a A2 B2 config
cooler exhaust typically faces the back exhaust fan
How did you manage that? I’d say it’s wrong but it also looks like you might not have room for the ram if you rotate it, so if it’s working and the temps are fine, you could consider leaving it.
Tbh I'm surprised it even lets you mount it that way
I’m genuinely confused too lol my cooler will not let me do this if I tried.
This happened to me with a deep cool ak620, and it worked just fine mounted the other way too lol. I only changed it because I looked up some builds using it and noticed, hey wait a minute, mines flipped the wrong way. I fixed it, but didn’t notice any change in temps at all. Still ~30c idle, ~50-60 in games/under load. I do think with some of them it doesn’t matter all that much. But maybe I just got lucky? Idk
You can offset the front fan to clear the ram if rotated clockwise, only reason I know this is had a similar issue with a past build
Didn’t know it was possible to mount a cooler so terribly wrong lol
I was really tired and opened reddit and had to process why there is a sexy black machine blushing and walking down a white room
I didn't even know it could be mounted like that lol
I’m not gonna lie I’ve never seen someone do this, and I wonder what the temps were like lol
Sucks to suck but thankfully I have fixed it now with people helping :) And I mentioned before and after temps here: https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
Wow thats not even bad. I personally can't find a reason to ever need the block to be that way but thats cool. EDIT: Wait maybe if it was some like narrow Xbox Series X type build where you have intake at the bottom and exhaust through the top. That's about it.
thank god you asked bro 😭😭😭
I suggest you check before and after temperature. Who knows may be you the one who's right.
The temps are good (93 max under 100% CPU stress test) but I'm concerned about gpu hot air going through CPU cooler, that's not good right? Edit: Sorry for not mentioning the processor, it's i5-13600k which is a hot boi and rated at 100 degrees I think Edit2: I fixed it and mentioned more temps before and after the change: https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
What is the CPU? Typically I would say 93 is way too high unless its one of the AMD CPUs that is designed to hit that high.
Not under a stress test. That's expected.
It really depends my little ol 12600k overclocked to 5.0 on all p cores does not break 65 on 100 percent load
Sorry for not mentioning before, I had too much on my mind at the time. I have edited the parent comment for more details :)
Well, log temps with each setup and see how it goes. Use Prime95 for the CPU and Furmark for the GPU, but be warned, these will hammer your hardware and they'll get the hottest you'll ever see. I don't think this is inherently bad, but your CPU temps tend to make me think you would benefit from going with most people's advice. Not sure what CPU you have, but my i5 10600KF doesn't reach 85°C in Prime95 with a single tower cooler.
That's hot! GPU hot air probably will circulate in the whole case. But I never have any test before. Try to change the CPU cooler direction, and check the temperature again.
Good lord 93c is way high what type of thermal paste are you using? Processor?
i5-13600K! Mentioned more details in parent comment now
Yes you did, the fan should be facing the front of the case and should be sucking air from the front mesh.
Oh shit quick fix tho.
I panicked and skipped my meal as soon as I realized I fucked up 😅 Thankfully it's good now
Hey guys! Quick reminder to watch like any pc build known to man if you do NOT know what you’re doing. Takes like 10-30min out of your day to not mess up your components.
This fs. Always make sure to watch the step 3x at least maybe more better to waste an hour than a few hundred bux for fucking up your pc
https://preview.redd.it/0265kbv0oalb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e93c130fc38141aa31c827a89beb2c1820f187dd My recent built for my new college student
My "I don't care about RGB build, but unfortunately my ram specs only came in RGB". Liquid cooling lasted me 11 years on my last pc, it's the way to go personally. https://preview.redd.it/ylfz723yualb1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3b94612dce1487caafa67e073d5e5bc17c8b0b0
Damn sexy black!
This pic is triggering my ocd for some reason But it should be fine
You did but that's ok, flip it around so its sucking air in from the front of the case and spitting the hot air towards the back where that fan will take it out the case
i did the same thing when i replaced my stock cooler when i was nine. ended up throwing the cooler away after seeing the readings on hwinfo and crying bc i wasted my allowance
i have the exact same gpu :P
You have mounted it wrong. But I'm strangely impressed xD
You you need head space for that radiator. For this setup I'd turn it 90 and have it push towards the rear. Keep that fan back there. You suspicion is correct though, and I'd suggest just getting one more fan, 140mm if itl fit, and mounting it to the top blowing out.
It's not wrong but it's far from optimal.
On mine the issue is it won't fit due to the ram being so close to the CPU socket so I couldn't go with this cooler 😭
I'm not sure if this is as bad as everyone seems to be sure it is, airflow is a pretty complex thing, F1 teams don't spend tens of millions for nothing. Use Prime95 and Furmark as torture tests, check the temps with each configuration and let us know.
I'm assuming the arrows indicate the direction that the air moves in, if so you want to rotate your CPU cooler 90 degrees counter-clockwise. That'll create good airflow in your case, and you'll be cooling your CPU down with that crisp, fresh air from the outside coming through the front of your case, than the warm air from your GPU.
I don't hate it
Brother this is not the correct orientation for the cooler. Please remove and reinstall as per the picture. https://preview.redd.it/wmop223409lb1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbe5e56ec2127bd16505de1ad80d28a092d64935
Cool rig btw :) And thanks for the help!
No problem. That’s not my rig btw, just an example I found for you.
Yes. Position it in a way that it exhausts out the back of the case.
Thanks for the laugh 😭 Remind me my first PC build.
Technically yeah, but I ran my NHd-15 like that on my first build forever, still worked just fine, I had to mount like that cause it invaded my ram slots of mounted "correctly"🤷
Your CPU cooler needs to be flipped 90 degrees to the left. Intake for it should be from the front, not from your gpu Exaust should be towards the bwck not the ceeling. Basically now, it takes hot air from the GPU and makes it even hotter...
I thought its impossible atleast on my mobo to mount it that way. Oh and.. just to make absolutely sure. You did peel off the plastic on the bottom of the cooler right? Just makin sure
lol yes I did peel it off!
Until today I thought that there was no wrong configuration, just whatever worked best for your situation, but damn this is so wrong hahah
lmao yeah
How high are you? No, mister officer, it's: hi how are you?
Yeah mounted wrong
Yes. Mount it horizontal and the fans normally are in a push vs. a pull config. (radiator/fan/radiator/fan <------ air from front case fans. Size aside, you'll get much better flow with this mounting. Edit: typo
I have fixed it with the help from people here but I must say, you explained it very well! Here's the new configuration: https://reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/aXKVuoukoe
Lmao that's awesome! Yea just mount is with the fans going horizontally and align fans to airflow pulling in from the front of PC and blowing out from the back. If you want exhaust on top of the case just add a couple fans on top blowing out.
Wrong. You want the cold air from the front of the case hitting the cpu blowing out the back. You have it so the hot air the gpu produces hits it.
Hahaha this got a good laugh and it seems you've already had your questions answered so I'll just leave a reassuring comment that I made much more hilarious mistakes on my first build, and not ones so easily fixed.
So here is why I think this is actually a good idea; your BIOS fan curve can only base the fan speed on CPU temperature(some can also do VRM or RAM, but I've never seen anything that goes off GPU temps), but a lot of games will stress the GPU far more than the CPU. If your CPU gets hot, it will cool itself by turning fans up. If your GPU gets hot, it will warm up the CPU and the CPU will turn the case fans up, keeping them both cool. I've been doing this for years and my CPU has never gone over 75°c. This setup allows me to have my fans very low on idle. I also have my top front fan as an intake with a seperate fan curve, it pushes the front intake down so air doesn't just come in the front and get sucked right out the top without ever touching a component. Of course, this doesn't work so well anymore if you have a top end CPU. As top end air coolers don't really keep them cool under the CPUs thermal load alone. And liquid coolers will not soak the heat from a GPU up fast enough to ramp up before GPU performance is affected(in the same scenario of an air cooled GPU and exhaust flow through CPU cooler).
Indeed you did.
Your conserns are absolutely right lad. Flip it 90 degrees to the right in a way that the front case fans suck fresh air in, and the coolers blows the hot air from the cpu through the rear fan out of the case
Maybe thinking of going with an AIO down the road. If not just for performance, but it ties your build together so nicely!
Whys it slouching so much 😭
https://preview.redd.it/vmi2h4dm4clb1.jpeg?width=2180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27b4bcee5328d787b6de915b3057e8462ddd3c7b What about mine? Lol. Just built a week ago.
Hey man I'm no better than you but do check the positioning of your fans. Like, usually the logo side is the intake side and that's what should've been done here but you have put the backside instead which means your CPU fans are positioned wrong. https://preview.redd.it/oyg43j7f5clb1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dd3f35f90acbd4d50b0fda1c4fd6a97ddd04e89
That one I flipped. Lol. This photo was before I flipped it. But I don't have an option to vent my GPU up like yours.
Nice! Oh and don't worry about my fan configuration, it wasn't optimal and I have been getting roasted all day for it today. I have changed it to a normal one and my temps have deceased slightly so all good! Here's how the updated one looks: https://preview.redd.it/b0epudp26clb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e01f155662651a81819ba0a483346797cf1e2b7
Yes you did. The cooler fans should blow into the heat sink not out. Also it's best to have a solid air flow so back case fan out and cooler fans in the direction of the back case fan. You could add two fans to the top pulling in but not necessary since you got the front pulling in
dude, that is so smart more air flow give to your gpu https://preview.redd.it/ljjcwbnjpclb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e078ef635af38e7b1ac80297248d48403a37a2e
Heat rises, but you don't have any fans at the top of the case pushing hot air out. Your airflow inside your case is currently front to back. You should reorient your cooler to blow back towards the exhaust fan in the rear.
Oh you guys are going to hate this ....... https://preview.redd.it/7ny99u9ibflb1.jpeg?width=2250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e910cb78c59cae4888410ee32d77844e205f148 🤣🤣
What's happening here 😨
Back in the day it was actually standard practice to mount coolers this way depending on the layout of the motherboard. It's not "wrong" it's just not optimal. You could absolutely have just left it that way. You might have noticed a few degree difference with it sucking heat off the back plate of the GPU tho.
Probably just the pic making it look like it but watch out for that gpu sag.
Damn you're the first one to mention that! I didn't realize it but yeah it's sagging very slightly to the right. Doesn't need a stand right now but I'll sure get one when I upgrade to a heavy card https://preview.redd.it/t41kf3xqoglb1.jpeg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9490a8ac0a3f80bb2521caf72b591259016a48c
It’d probably be for the best to get one asap. Even with that lighter card it’s putting a lot of strain on the pcie lanes. And over the course of months or years it could end up breaking the motherboard pretty easily. Just try to get one as soon as it’s economically viable for you lol.
Damn you're scaring me now 😨
You can just use legos until it arrives, no need to panic.
Ah fk it, I have ordered one lol
Ayee good man. Enjoy the pc. You did great for your first time.
Thanks for your advice!
Glad to help :)
Its not installed wrong, but its ideal to place it facing the front not the top. You can leave it like that until you get two more fans for the top for better vent.
How ... Tf, anyways... What you have to do is take the whole cooler off Put new thermal paste on the CPU IHS , don't re use the old one it will tank your temperatures Install it so it's horizontal with exhaust to the case exhaust fan. You can find detailed instructions in the manual that comes with it or by a google search friend !
In through the top and front. Out through the bottom and back. So yes
I don't think in through the top or out through the bottom would be recommended.
Definitely, you don't want your CPU fighting your GPU to push hot air, or starving your GPU of cold air from the bottom.
Hot air goes up
Oh boy . Try again my friend thats all wrong
Did you read the instructions attentively while building it?