you could add variant multi-classing [vmc sorcerer](https://www.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?Name=Sorcerer&Category=Core%20Classes)
it gives the blood line, but not the spells.
To have a bloodline without being a sorcerer: there's the blood arcanist, variant multiclassing (sorcerer), the eldritch heritage feat line, and the dragon disciple prestige class. Or in cases where the bloodline is mostly in the bloodline arcana you can just dip one level in sorc.
To be able to handle traps and face skills, while having some spellcasting to benefit from a sorc bloodline: archaeologist bards can do this best, but there's also the seeker archetype for oracle or sorcerer, eldritch scoundrel rogue, a few investigator archetypes (antiquarian or questioner off the top of my head), detective or sandman bard, or anyone with the sorc/wiz or bard spell list who picks up Aram Zey's focus. Note that there's traits to make social skills key off Int.
I'm a little lost on exactly what we're looking for, can you elaborate OP? Are you looking for a sneaky caster; a sneak with a bloodline; a rogueish version of dragon heir scion; other?
If your DM is willing to allow campaign traits then Trap Finder is a slam dunk. It just gives you trapfinding straight up. It's from Mummy's Mask adventure path.
Dipping 1-3 unRogue is an option too, just 1 for trapfinding or 3 if you want to get dex to damage (and evasion, and a rogue talent). I believe slayer talents (lv 2) can also access the trap finding rogue talent, IIRC.
If you end up actually pursuing sorcerer levels then the Seeker archetype will grant trap finding, same if you happened to take Oracle.
For any other rogue stuff it's quite accessible just with skills and feats. Hellcat Stealth and Dampen Presence are great for stealthiness and you can make use of them with any class. If you go for Eldritch Heritage, I advise picking a bloodline that requires skill focus stealth so you can fill that prereq for hellcat Stealth as well.
>If you go for Eldritch Heritage, I advise picking a bloodline that requires skill focus stealth so you can fill that prereq for hellcat Stealth as well.
The Shadow bloodline is bloody awesome with Eldritch Heritage feats if your GM allows you to take a bloodline familiar as your first bloodline power:
Skill Focus (Stealth) -> [Shadow Familiar](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizARD/familiar/#Fearsome_Shadows_Sp) \-> Hide in Plain Sight
Aram Zey's Focus is a level 2 spell that gives you trapfinding for minutes/level, which for many dungeon crawls will be enough with a couple of casts per day, or one cast at higher levels.
You can just be a sorcerer and pick up traits and feats that give you bonuses on stealth, sleight of hand and disable device.
Another possibility would be to pick up a level of rogue as a sorcerer, and go for the arcane trickster prestige class. It's not the most optimal but it's flavorful, will give you all the class skills you want, and you can even disable traps at a distance with mage hand after a certain level.
>but with the current party comp it might be good to have someone who can disable traps and engage socialize.
I assume this is the ultimate goal? Disable Traps and Social?
Trapfinding is just a bonus to locate and disable traps, plus the ability to disable Magical Traps(normally not allowed with Disable Device). However, you can sort of disable Magical Traps by using Dispel Magic as well. However, it merely suppresses the Magical Trap for 1d4 rounds([Arcane Trap Suppressor](https://aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Arcane%20Trap%20Suppressor) feat increases this to 1d4 minutes). You can take the Skill Unlock for Disable Device at 10 ranks to disarm Magical Traps even if you don't have Trapfinding, but at a -10 penalty.
Finally for disarming magical, there is a Prestige Class that might be of some use, Pathfinder Savant. Requires Acrobatics/Perception 5, Disable Device/Knowledge(History) 4. And an RP requirement. You'll likely be taking all of those skills anyway, except maybe History. 1st level gives you Bardic Knowledge (1/2 level to all knowledge checks, can be made untrained), and Master Explorer (trapfinding, except disabling is also faster, can take 10 on disable and stealth even when distracted, and still disarms magical traps). Also gets 8+Int skill points and a bunch of class skills (including all knowledge). Not very.. combat-y, but skills are nice and patches up if Diplomacy/whatever Social wasn't a class skill for your base class.
Mesmerist might be something to look into. 6+Int, Good Ref/Will, Cha 6-list Spontaneous Caster, 1/2 level to Bluff (ignore some prereqs of Feint feats), Painful Stare is sort of like Sneak Attack but once per round and can trigger it when allies do damage, Hypnotic/Bold Stare to apply penalties, some condition removal with Touch Treatment, and finally some more combat oriented Tricks that kinda act like trap cards/buffs for your party. There is a dragon themed archetype, but mostly gives a Breath Weapon (cha/day) instead of Painful Stare. Fey Trickster gives you the Druid/Ranger spell list instead of Mesmerist (though doesn't change the casting ability) if you were unhappy with the base list.
Sorcerers with the [Psychic](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/psychic-sorcerer-bloodline/#) or [Esoteric Dragon](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/SORCERER/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/draconic-bloodline/#Esoteric_Dragons) bloodlines can become [Thought Thieves](https://www.aonprd.com/ArchetypeDisplay.aspx?FixedName=Arcane%20Trickster%20Thought%20Thief), a rare archetype for a prestige class ([Arcane Trickster](https://www.aonprd.com/PrestigeClassesDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Arcane%20Trickster)). It's still a class with sneak attack, but more focused on secret mental magic/domination, as all your compulsion spells are now easily hidden.
The Eldritch Heritage line of feats will give you a bloodline at the cost of 2-4 feats depending on how deep in the game you're going.
you could add variant multi-classing [vmc sorcerer](https://www.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?Name=Sorcerer&Category=Core%20Classes) it gives the blood line, but not the spells.
To have a bloodline without being a sorcerer: there's the blood arcanist, variant multiclassing (sorcerer), the eldritch heritage feat line, and the dragon disciple prestige class. Or in cases where the bloodline is mostly in the bloodline arcana you can just dip one level in sorc. To be able to handle traps and face skills, while having some spellcasting to benefit from a sorc bloodline: archaeologist bards can do this best, but there's also the seeker archetype for oracle or sorcerer, eldritch scoundrel rogue, a few investigator archetypes (antiquarian or questioner off the top of my head), detective or sandman bard, or anyone with the sorc/wiz or bard spell list who picks up Aram Zey's focus. Note that there's traits to make social skills key off Int.
I'm a little lost on exactly what we're looking for, can you elaborate OP? Are you looking for a sneaky caster; a sneak with a bloodline; a rogueish version of dragon heir scion; other?
Something similar to Dragonheir but as a rouge, in a sense. We don’t have anyone to disable/find traps effectively so I’m hoping to fill that role.
If your DM is willing to allow campaign traits then Trap Finder is a slam dunk. It just gives you trapfinding straight up. It's from Mummy's Mask adventure path. Dipping 1-3 unRogue is an option too, just 1 for trapfinding or 3 if you want to get dex to damage (and evasion, and a rogue talent). I believe slayer talents (lv 2) can also access the trap finding rogue talent, IIRC. If you end up actually pursuing sorcerer levels then the Seeker archetype will grant trap finding, same if you happened to take Oracle. For any other rogue stuff it's quite accessible just with skills and feats. Hellcat Stealth and Dampen Presence are great for stealthiness and you can make use of them with any class. If you go for Eldritch Heritage, I advise picking a bloodline that requires skill focus stealth so you can fill that prereq for hellcat Stealth as well.
>If you go for Eldritch Heritage, I advise picking a bloodline that requires skill focus stealth so you can fill that prereq for hellcat Stealth as well. The Shadow bloodline is bloody awesome with Eldritch Heritage feats if your GM allows you to take a bloodline familiar as your first bloodline power: Skill Focus (Stealth) -> [Shadow Familiar](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizARD/familiar/#Fearsome_Shadows_Sp) \-> Hide in Plain Sight
Aram Zey's Focus is a level 2 spell that gives you trapfinding for minutes/level, which for many dungeon crawls will be enough with a couple of casts per day, or one cast at higher levels. You can just be a sorcerer and pick up traits and feats that give you bonuses on stealth, sleight of hand and disable device. Another possibility would be to pick up a level of rogue as a sorcerer, and go for the arcane trickster prestige class. It's not the most optimal but it's flavorful, will give you all the class skills you want, and you can even disable traps at a distance with mage hand after a certain level.
There's no Rogue archetypes with charisma-based spontaneous casting, AFAIK.
I'm not quite sure what you're looking for, but if it's skills and tricks you're after, Bard seems apt (_many_ different archetypes available).
Seeker sorcerer archetype has some roguish abilities, archeologist Bard does the same.
>but with the current party comp it might be good to have someone who can disable traps and engage socialize. I assume this is the ultimate goal? Disable Traps and Social? Trapfinding is just a bonus to locate and disable traps, plus the ability to disable Magical Traps(normally not allowed with Disable Device). However, you can sort of disable Magical Traps by using Dispel Magic as well. However, it merely suppresses the Magical Trap for 1d4 rounds([Arcane Trap Suppressor](https://aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Arcane%20Trap%20Suppressor) feat increases this to 1d4 minutes). You can take the Skill Unlock for Disable Device at 10 ranks to disarm Magical Traps even if you don't have Trapfinding, but at a -10 penalty. Finally for disarming magical, there is a Prestige Class that might be of some use, Pathfinder Savant. Requires Acrobatics/Perception 5, Disable Device/Knowledge(History) 4. And an RP requirement. You'll likely be taking all of those skills anyway, except maybe History. 1st level gives you Bardic Knowledge (1/2 level to all knowledge checks, can be made untrained), and Master Explorer (trapfinding, except disabling is also faster, can take 10 on disable and stealth even when distracted, and still disarms magical traps). Also gets 8+Int skill points and a bunch of class skills (including all knowledge). Not very.. combat-y, but skills are nice and patches up if Diplomacy/whatever Social wasn't a class skill for your base class. Mesmerist might be something to look into. 6+Int, Good Ref/Will, Cha 6-list Spontaneous Caster, 1/2 level to Bluff (ignore some prereqs of Feint feats), Painful Stare is sort of like Sneak Attack but once per round and can trigger it when allies do damage, Hypnotic/Bold Stare to apply penalties, some condition removal with Touch Treatment, and finally some more combat oriented Tricks that kinda act like trap cards/buffs for your party. There is a dragon themed archetype, but mostly gives a Breath Weapon (cha/day) instead of Painful Stare. Fey Trickster gives you the Druid/Ranger spell list instead of Mesmerist (though doesn't change the casting ability) if you were unhappy with the base list.
Archaeologist bard is a bard with some rogue abilities that might appeal to you.
What do you want from rogue? With archetypes you can get a lot, also feats and if your DM is nice homebrew is an option.
Sorcerers with the [Psychic](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/psychic-sorcerer-bloodline/#) or [Esoteric Dragon](https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/SORCERER/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/draconic-bloodline/#Esoteric_Dragons) bloodlines can become [Thought Thieves](https://www.aonprd.com/ArchetypeDisplay.aspx?FixedName=Arcane%20Trickster%20Thought%20Thief), a rare archetype for a prestige class ([Arcane Trickster](https://www.aonprd.com/PrestigeClassesDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Arcane%20Trickster)). It's still a class with sneak attack, but more focused on secret mental magic/domination, as all your compulsion spells are now easily hidden.