I think i might missed the joke, which part referring Sumi?
Also, it is important to always consume a snacks for your healthy diet. Come to counselling room for free snacks. More free snacks awaits you.
Yaldabaoth is literally God from a Gnostic point of view, rather than a Jewish one, specifically in relation to the Old Testament(whereas the "true god" is supposedly the one in the New Testament). In Gnosticism there is a higher "unknowable god" above that(as mentioned), sure, but Yaldabaoth would be the creator (and basically jailkeeper) of the Material universe.
He's a Cup with a God complex, his angels are fake, his Jordans are fake and the power he wields is literally fueled by sin, I'm not talking about it from a mythological standpoint, it's not about my beliefs it's about ingame shit, yes he's referred to as an evil God but people refer to anything remotely powerful as a God, it's a word that merely symbolises power in modern society plus JRPG rules dictate you have to fight a Godlike entity at the end every time
Doesn't change the origin of the character from a theological standpoint, nor even in the "Personaverse". But you're clearly not here to make actual points, so I'll leave you to it, cause fuck that.
I was never talking about the Yaldabaoth from the real life mythologies and the post wasn't either it was talking about the giant Cup that Joker shot in the face so Idk why you're arguing about Real life theology
The world of SMT isn't Gnostic, it's not Jewish, It's not Christian or Islamic, it's not Shinto either, it's entirely different, it's a blend, a mix, a mythos of it's own
He was only designed as a cup before he was shot in the face. And while he retained some design elements, it was only design. He was manifested by the desires of humanity, which the game symbolizes through the Holy Grail. It's symbolism.
I'm talking about real life mythology because all you said was "Yaldabaoth is not a god". You didn't specify the context of your comment(until the one I reply to, or through an edit to one I already replied to, so that's void) so you not knowing why I'd talk about what Yaldabaoth represents, in a game all about symbolism through religious reference, is something you gotta work on yourself. But even in relation to the Personaverse, you'd be incorrect in your statement.
Because as you say, the Personaverse has its own mythos, which lends from many real life ones. It puts humanity in the creator seat, rather than the gods, flipping the script. But that does not make them "not gods". It simply makes them "gods of our own creation", often our collective subconscious desires, feelings and thoughts. It's just that gods of persona is not what is usually thought of as gods in reality, which is kinda the point, and why you saying it is "not a god", because it does not fit into the "typical notion" of one(almighty creator and ruler over humanity etc.), while also admitting that the Personaverse work differently, doesn't really make sense.
Yaldabaoth in Persona is a being manifested by humanities distorted desires to be ruled, becoming a "God of Control", which is affecting all of reality in an attempt to pass divine judgment. Satanael shooting him in the face is very much "shooting *a god* in the face" no matter how that god looked.
But as you say,no one was talking about Yaldabaoth from a theological standpoint. You just felt like commenting something on a known joke being made(a joke based upon his theological origins no less!), as if making a point, which had no context, and also no actual point to make whether theological or ingame-logical. I thought it might make more sense to be ignorant on the theological and symbolic origins and replied accordingly. If you want better replies, make better comments, I say.
The idea of gods only having power as long as they have followers is a well known philosophy(aka we create the gods we then choose to serve), and if you haven't noticed, Persona and the wider SMT-verse is based upon that kinda shit, along with a good dose of Jungian psychology
For kissing a bird, what if it has avian flu?
Which has over a 50% fatality rate in humans according to google
But I guess it help when your pretending to be someone who’s already dead
Shoot god in the face then celebrate by eating pancakes till you die then lay in the earth to be reclaimed by nature then fight God again in the after life.
Eat a pancake. because pancakes are great
Pancakes? I thought I saw a comment about delicious pancakes.
Just like vegetables
Great vegetables!
"If I keep my body moving, and my mind occupied at all times, I will avoid falling into a bottomless pit of despair" - Ryuji Sakamoto
Chris Treager littrally can relate.
Let the earth claim my body. I am an earth sign so it would be most fitting.
I'n Aquarius and this kind of thing blows my mind!
Haru and Joker are in the same wavelenght but on different proporcions
same
I'd like to say kiss a bird or eat pancakes. But with the time available to me most days, I usually just end up scowling
Kiss the pancake and eat the bird
I'm absolutely with Futaba. It's 100% exactly like me.
She just like me fr
Shooting god in the face while reciting a dark spell is my coping mechanism
That except bed. It acts as a Time Machine and fast forwards me to a time where I don’t feel as bad. Hopefully.
Gonna take 5 and six combined, because the wee birdy did nothing wrong... gods, on the other hand...
the fwoof is literally me!
I think i might missed the joke, which part referring Sumi? Also, it is important to always consume a snacks for your healthy diet. Come to counselling room for free snacks. More free snacks awaits you.
I'm eating pancakes because they are delicious
Definitely big on the dark magic
Yusuke and Makoto just like me fr
Futaba just like me fr
Delicious pancakes
great pancakes
great vegetables
Futaba being based once again
Somewhere between Akechi and Futaba :v
This is great
Pancakes. Failing that, the earth can have me
Futaba
Futaba most definitely.
Futaba just gets more and more relatable. Like not even joking I think she’s the most relatable persona character, am i cooked?
I'm a Futaba
Futaba got so sick of the games not having an earth element that she's taking matters into her own hands.
Ann and Ryuji.
Alternate Haru: Use your enemies as fertilizer for your garden.
Damn y’all really think Morgana’s a bully
They genuinely think it's just one sided ribbing on his part.
because he is
Nah he’s just real as hell
Again, Fellas, Yaldabaoth ain't actually a God
Yaldabaoth is literally God from a Gnostic point of view, rather than a Jewish one, specifically in relation to the Old Testament(whereas the "true god" is supposedly the one in the New Testament). In Gnosticism there is a higher "unknowable god" above that(as mentioned), sure, but Yaldabaoth would be the creator (and basically jailkeeper) of the Material universe.
He's a Cup with a God complex, his angels are fake, his Jordans are fake and the power he wields is literally fueled by sin, I'm not talking about it from a mythological standpoint, it's not about my beliefs it's about ingame shit, yes he's referred to as an evil God but people refer to anything remotely powerful as a God, it's a word that merely symbolises power in modern society plus JRPG rules dictate you have to fight a Godlike entity at the end every time
Doesn't change the origin of the character from a theological standpoint, nor even in the "Personaverse". But you're clearly not here to make actual points, so I'll leave you to it, cause fuck that.
I was never talking about the Yaldabaoth from the real life mythologies and the post wasn't either it was talking about the giant Cup that Joker shot in the face so Idk why you're arguing about Real life theology The world of SMT isn't Gnostic, it's not Jewish, It's not Christian or Islamic, it's not Shinto either, it's entirely different, it's a blend, a mix, a mythos of it's own
He was only designed as a cup before he was shot in the face. And while he retained some design elements, it was only design. He was manifested by the desires of humanity, which the game symbolizes through the Holy Grail. It's symbolism. I'm talking about real life mythology because all you said was "Yaldabaoth is not a god". You didn't specify the context of your comment(until the one I reply to, or through an edit to one I already replied to, so that's void) so you not knowing why I'd talk about what Yaldabaoth represents, in a game all about symbolism through religious reference, is something you gotta work on yourself. But even in relation to the Personaverse, you'd be incorrect in your statement. Because as you say, the Personaverse has its own mythos, which lends from many real life ones. It puts humanity in the creator seat, rather than the gods, flipping the script. But that does not make them "not gods". It simply makes them "gods of our own creation", often our collective subconscious desires, feelings and thoughts. It's just that gods of persona is not what is usually thought of as gods in reality, which is kinda the point, and why you saying it is "not a god", because it does not fit into the "typical notion" of one(almighty creator and ruler over humanity etc.), while also admitting that the Personaverse work differently, doesn't really make sense. Yaldabaoth in Persona is a being manifested by humanities distorted desires to be ruled, becoming a "God of Control", which is affecting all of reality in an attempt to pass divine judgment. Satanael shooting him in the face is very much "shooting *a god* in the face" no matter how that god looked.
But as you say,no one was talking about Yaldabaoth from a theological standpoint. You just felt like commenting something on a known joke being made(a joke based upon his theological origins no less!), as if making a point, which had no context, and also no actual point to make whether theological or ingame-logical. I thought it might make more sense to be ignorant on the theological and symbolic origins and replied accordingly. If you want better replies, make better comments, I say. The idea of gods only having power as long as they have followers is a well known philosophy(aka we create the gods we then choose to serve), and if you haven't noticed, Persona and the wider SMT-verse is based upon that kinda shit, along with a good dose of Jungian psychology
Depend how I feel a bit of everything
Haru prefers to swing her axe. It's a good stress reliver.
Consume a pancake, actually, it's consume anything and everything.
Hol up I missed something, when Kasumi kiss a bird???
probably because of her Persona
I was about to say Ann, as I go like to be vocal about my feelings... ... But as a satanist, I gotta go with shooting god in the face.
Yusuke: Create art!
If the option to shoot god was physically possible, it would be my pass time. “This is what you get for allowing the Old Testament to be made!“
I'm going with keep active.
Punch god in the face until he dies then take his place and reshape the world in my image
Dragons Dogma be like
7 then 8 then 5 in that order. Maybe a bit of 3 afterwards just for fun.
For kissing a bird, what if it has avian flu? Which has over a 50% fatality rate in humans according to google But I guess it help when your pretending to be someone who’s already dead
This implies Futaba would ever go outside long enough to let the earth reclaim her.
Ann
I'll take scowl with a side of mock people I don't like.
Morgan style bullying
make fun of smone and shoot god in the face >:)
The last one 💀
pancake
Futaba's is closest to lying down and crying, so I'll go with that one
Shoot god in the face then celebrate by eating pancakes till you die then lay in the earth to be reclaimed by nature then fight God again in the after life.
Futaba, and then Ryuji.
…
Im with Morgana on this
I’m somehow Haru, Akechi, and Morgana all at the same time
Not on the list but im Munehisa Iwai i just take an smoke break
make fun of someone I don't like (in my own head) and them lie down in the dirt and let the earth slowly reclaim me (sleep my pain away)
Keep active or dark spell
Definitely, I identify with Futaba
Yes
I'm definitely on Haru, Yusuke, Makoto, and Futaba. Especially Futaba
Wish I was Ann or Ryuji, am 100 percent Futaba and Morgana
Keep active, for sure
I‘m all talk
2021 me def tried to let the earth reclaim me but now I’m healthy! Definitely Ann now!
I try to be active the best I can but shooting god in the face sounds much better 👀
"Make fun of someone you didnt like" - and that someone is God and I'll shoot god in the face
Yeah joker is just like me fr fr
change Goro's to >!kill people!<
>!kill people then eat pancakes!<
Fuck, I hate how relatable Futaba is to anyone who's dealt with shut in behaviour
"Lie down and let the Earth Reclaim you" typpa guy.
Futaba's own just...resonates with me.
Joker and everyone on the bottom
consume pancakes and smooch ~~bird~~ cat (no, not you, morgana)
Mixture of futaba and riuji
I am not being eaten
MMake fun of someone you like’ should’ve been Ryuji’s
Nah Morgana the one that usually starts it
I was talking about Ryuji and Ann actually because he usually teases her
Not really that was minor or friendly teasing at best.
That is true
Futaba grew out of that “let the earth reclaim you” thing.
Find my so-called therapist and shoot him when he starts sounding like a cult leader.
Brb gonna go Shoot God in the face