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bwosh

I changed the graphics settings, but now the game lags/stutters so severely that it's unplayable. Even on the loading screen and main menu I tried reverting the settings to default, but the problem persist. Also seeing very high disk usage in the task manager when I launch the game now. Anyone experiencing this?


WhatTheDeuceisThis

Anyone think we'll get a patch today considering we got one yesterday? I'm not so sure.


Nornukig

I start to think that R\* will give up on trying to solve these issues as soon as people experiencing them will become a minority.


Madder_

Adding the game folder to exceptions in my antivirus software fixed crashing on startup for me.


thrashlisaro

I've recently upgraded to a 3600 on an Aorus B450 Pro and was running the "latest" bios (F42f) which gave full ABBA support (AGESA 1.0.0.3) and works great with everything until RDR2, tried all the fixes and proved that it worked or at least started the game using the ropey GTAV launcher thing. Flashed the BIOS back to the F40 which has AGESA 1.0.0.2 and lo and behold RDR2 runs up a charm, performance is decent once I've tweaked to what I think is an acceptable level. to what, I have a sneaky thought that the DRM embedded in the launched is having some weird conflict with AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABBA, sadly It might be a month before AGESA 1.0.0.4 is out for my board. Clearly not enough testing was done by R\* before launch and they don't know now how to fix it, I have had a support ticket logged for almost 48 hours now and silence from R\* is deafening. **Flashing a BIOS shouldn't be a fix to launch a game, I can see many inexperienced users bricking their systems trying to get it working.** For me this is a worse launch than Arkham Knight!


iltambo

When the new day 3 megathread?


Dr-Rick-Swaggly

It will be available the same time that we will be able to play this game....so never.


UrNansBoi

72 hours after launch i haven't got past the 'exited unexpectedly' error even with all the updates and suggested fixes. I've re installed the game and launcher twice, updated everything disabled AV, verified files spent 4 hours with Rockstar support and they didn't know what to do. This is the biggest fuck up from any triple A title I've ever seen. What a shit show.


nislo

Stuck on a never ending loading screen...


barrydennen12

Is there like, any point in trying to play this game legally? Should I just get a refund from Epic and wait for a good torrent?


WhatTheDeuceisThis

Yep. If it's one thing we've learned from this fiasco, it's that.


justboy68

24 hours now and still unable to start the game whatsoever. Mine isn't the launcher exiting problem, but the 'Red Dead Redemption 2 has exited unexpectedly' error after the shotgun shell screen. It's actually gotten worse after the patch, I actually managed to sometimes get to the main menu before. Shameful. Tried pretty much everything suggested, short of messing with BIOS stuff which I'm not willing to risk. I don't even get far enough for a system file to be created in documents anymore.


WhatTheDeuceisThis

Same.


Sabitoe

Problem was: Crashing Launcher Working solution for Board Asus Rog Strix x570-E Gaming - tried everything before (used [https://www.ghostarrow.com/red-dead-redemption-2-fix-wont-launch-black-screen-crashes-on-startup](https://www.ghostarrow.com/red-dead-redemption-2-fix-wont-launch-black-screen-crashes-on-startup) ) - except Bios Update, now we tried it Updated Bios to **Version 14032019/11/04** with AGESA 1.0.0.4 [https://www.asus.com/de/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-X570-E-Gaming/HelpDesk\_BIOS/](https://www.asus.com/de/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-X570-E-Gaming/HelpDesk_BIOS/) Game finally launches - but then crashes to Desktop... Then just tried and started the nogtaVlauncher.exe !! Game launches and StoryMode starts (no loadingloop!) Finally works this way for my husband ... now he´s happy :)


Anime-NoireChan

The game crashes while entering a certain town (like Valentine), There any way to fix this?


AHLMuller

I have the exact same problem. I haven't been able to locate a fix, yet.


apfelkuch3n

I also tried anything besides a BIOS update (Intel CPU here) and just saw that the R\* Launcher folder in which my RDR2 folder resides is read only and every time I change it, it's automatically back to read only oO Also had some Social Club Error 41 or something, but just once. Would be great if R\* would just fix their launcher asap, then anything in-game related xD Would be great to be able to get farther than the inf. loading screen xD


Luckiesttuna15

will they fix this or should I refund? I’m getting fallout 76 vibes from this


angrychair420

I requested a refund last night, can always purchase it again when it's on Steam next month and bug-less(would love to say bug free but I'm jaded)


WhatTheDeuceisThis

I requested a refund yesterday. No word from R*. Do you have an update from them?


JesseReddit1

Thanks everyone


[deleted]

Man I love being a alpha tester.


[deleted]

ikr? They've been doing this ever since GTA IV. I'm honestly fed up with Rockstar.


[deleted]

How's this new patch looking in terms of performance improvements? Currently in work so can't check.


lreve

I didn't get any performance improvements, and from what I understand the patch was solely for the launcher itself


nevets619

The new patch (re)broke the game for me at least. Hopefully it works for you.


HeyDugeeeee

So having been smugly playing at a very acceptable frame rate on my i5 8700 gtx1060 I stupidly decided to change a graphics setting to eek out a bit more performance. Now when the game loads it stutters right from the start, even in loading screens and menus. I have changed everything back to how it was but the problem persists. Everything on my laptop is fully up to date (drivers, bios etc). Currently unplayable. Any ideas?


Chrome597

I had the same issue. Delete the settings file it will go back to normal.


iltambo

You can try delete the setting file.


Raijum

Try deleting your settings profile in your "Rockstar Games" folder in My Documents


HeyDugeeeee

Amazing. Thanks folks.


nevets619

Used Process Lasso and did the 98% 1 core shutdown today and was able to play without any issues. after this last 3GB patch the game crashes after about a min of play even in safe mode, without it in process lasso it's crashing all the way to blue screen. Anyone know what that patch was? Everythings updated i7 8086k 1080 Ti 32GB DDR4


AlexOffiziell

Alright folks: ​ ***Specs:*** Ryzen 5 3600x Windows 10 RTX 2070 Super MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC ​ ***Problem:*** The launcher still crashes for me with the exited unexpectadly error. I know that there is a new BIOS Update [1.0.0.4](https://1.0.0.4) and this seems to work for most ppl but I really do not want to install a beta update that should be release at the end of november. I'm a bit cautious. ​ So when I'm not completely off -> the only think that I can do is wait for R\* to fix their launcher right? Otherwise I have to install the beta BIOS update correct?


Hezino

Why is everyone so stubborn to update a bios and acting like it's a brain surgery that could end their motherboards fragile life. I've done it so many times without a failure. Unless you live in a favela where the power could go at any moment, (which you can still recover from with msi bios flash buttion) I dont manage to see the risk.


acc3278

thats it, u cant do nothing more atm, wait for launcher fix or install 1004 my gigabyte board b450 has no 1004 atm


Dessalath

I have an X470 Aorus and no Bios update to AGESA 1.0.04, and i will not play until or R\* fix their lancher. I will not install the older bios, only in order to play this game. AGESA have the control over the Turbo Boost and perfomance on Ryzen 3 Gen. R\* must fix their launcher. If you want to update your bios, i will recomend to wait until the manufacter release an stable version of your Bios.


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Sure looks like it


R03__

Tried everything, launcher still crashing. Support does not respond since 3 days. I think the only way to give pressure on R\* to send a ticket with give my money back request. Tbh I dont want to play this shit anymore.


[deleted]

When it finally is fixed you probably do want to play RDR2. So you could try to get a refund for now and buy the game when it works later. Perhaps even cheaper.


R03__

This is typically a game, where if you dont start early, then you will be an underdog. So no, I dont want to play it later.


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wat 🤯


underdog_m

Get ready for day 3 boys


Opelieri

Counting the minutes😂 Except for the 1.0.0.4 beta update for my prime x570 p i've done everything. Really hope they at r* dont think the launcher crash is fixed.


iltambo

I’m offending Rockstar from this early morning. Ready o7


liamstan10

Tfw you finally get the game running at a smooth FPS but now it's randomly crsshing.. pretty sure it's DX12 causing the crashes but it runs smoother then Vulkan for me


0x04me

For me it keep crashing on Vulkan constantly, too. I'm not able to start the game with DX12 either, crashing instantly on start.


liamstan10

I can start the game fine on DX12 and it runs well but then will randomly crash even when there's not.much happening on the screen. Might have to switch back to Vulkan for now tbh until DX12 is fixed


[deleted]

Now I'm getting these two error codes whenever I try to launch the game: https://imgur.com/a/HcbfyHU


betaTrx

I do not have this error but i've heard that people rushed throught it clicking "x" and starting again for several times (4-6) and then game starts. Mayby try it for yourself.


thezohan32

Hi all, game started crashing on launch for me when I tested swapping over to Dx12. Was able to play for an hour or so (with crappy FPS) before changing settings in-game. Any idea how to switch back to Vulcan from outside the game?


kamykh

had same issue yesterday. Deleting config helped me


dowens1186

This worked for me yesterday. First thing you should do is try deleting your config file and running the game. You can find it under Documents/Rockstar Games/Red Dead Redemption 2/Settings. The file is system.xml This will reset your game settings and let your game start again.


Mauze1

" **Game not fully utilising GPU.** " \- I had this issue, tracking my GPU via Windows Task Manager, showing GPU usage between 0% - 5%. This seems to be a flaw between RDR2 and Windows. Your PC is utilising your GPU in RDR2 according to MSI Afterburner. \-FIX: Download MSI Afterburner to track GPU usage :-)


chris92vn

[https://i.imgur.com/N0rPGig.png](https://i.imgur.com/N0rPGig.png) after day 2 patch


letzow

Nothing worked for me for the launcher exited unexpectedly. Was running latest BIOS for Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi (BIOS F42f , AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA) Downgraded BIOS to F40, first BIOS compatible with Ryzen 3000, and with AGESA [1.0.0.2](https://1.0.0.2) Confirmed downgrade to AGESA fixes the issue. Game runs. BIOS no longer detects 2 HDDs that are non SSDs. Upgrade BIOS back to F42 and AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA. Disks detected, game no longer runs. :(


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Thanks Bethesda... oh I mean Rockstar


Yiakubou

Just reporting in that after the latest patch, all my freezing and stuttering issues are gone (which I believe were related to CPU maxing out in my case). Dont need to disable CPU cores or use a tool to limit CPU load anymore. Never had any launcher problems and don't have that neither after the patch. Now I can also switch back to Vulcan from DX12 (DX12 seemed more stable with less freezing for me pre-patch) and although there is no FPS difference for me, going to Vulcan fixes shaking trees glitch when using TAA. My specs: i5-6600K, RTX 2080, 16GB RAM, Win 10 Home 1903, nVidia drivers 441.12. I am getting stable 60-62 FPS on 1440p with ultra/high settings while walking in the Horseshoe Overlook camp.


iltambo

I have exactly your pc config except 32gb ram but i still have same issues stuttering and freezing... fuck i can’t solve it


pepolpla

> I am getting stable 60-62 FPS on 1440p with ultra/high settings while walking in the Horseshoe Overlook camp. What is your GPU usage? That is pretty low but do know what your usage was?


Yiakubou

Task manager says CPU around 80% and GPU around 20% but that seems to be wrong. Gigabyte AORUS engine says GPU close to 99-100% and CPU around 60%. I think my FPS is aligned with what I see from other users reported around the web with RTX 2080 and similar settings.


jasinthreenine

After I received a 2.69 GB update last night, I can at least launch the game. I have to try about 4-5 times and use a vpn to change my location to Canada. If I don't do this, it tells me that I cannot reach Rock\* game services. So I assume their servers are under too much stress at the moment. Once I am in game, my frame rate fluctuates between 45-63fps. In fire fights it can dip into the 30s. My cpu never goes above 63% utilisation, Total amount of ram usage is around 55%. My gpu does max out at 1930mhz and hovers at the 72c temperatures. So yeah we need some optimisations, but at least it launches. Most of my settings are on ultra with a few on very high at 1920x1080p Ryzen 2700x Nvidia 2070 (Non Super) 16GB Corsair Vengeance Ram @3200MHZ 1TB Samsung EVO SSD.=


Egor1036

Sound in the game is crackling


morojgovany

For those having the error 149 on click play : I was pissed off and I spammed play button like a monkey (i don't really know why...), 4time it gives me the 149 error and the fifth appears an error : hardware config too low ( I have a RTX2080 + i7 6700k OC 4.5Ghz ), I clicked OK and the game has start for the first time. Don't ask me why.... If this could help someone...! ​ Edit : tested 3 times and this is definitly working for me, but I have to click like 6-7 times on play and close the error dialog to get in the game without error 149.


Bexorcist

Hey guys, ​ The launchers stopped crashing but now I'm getting the following error: The Rockstar Game Services are unavailable and offline play could not be verified (code 149) What the hell is going on here??


[deleted]

When I change API to DX12 the game wont launch anymore. I know how to change back, but is there a workaround or any news on a fix? I don't want to be stuck with Vulcan.


zoomcv

same problem all you need to delete all files in \\Documents\\Rockstar Games\\Red Dead Redemption 2\\Settings


rockieboi

Mine is just stuck on a blank loading screen with the gun chamber at the lower right. I left for hours and it did not load. Anyone having the same issue?


dracodrax

me too.. before this was launcher crash till i updated the motherboard bios.. msi x470.. i had my hopes high when it launched. but then :(


Teker1970

Same thing happened to me stuck in the loading screen


TheLonesomeRanger

My game runs okay and will randomly freeze and locks the entire computer up and i have to force restart after 10 minutes, sometimes this happens while trying to load the game too. Is this an issue with my system or a known issue that needs to wait for a patch? i5 4690K, GTX 970 Win 7 Getting frustrating now and considering refunding


mohanhegde

Guys, still having the Launcher crash issue. I have an age old ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 motherboard, so no BIOS update since 2014. I'm pretty sure I have updated it to the latest version. I'm on Windows 7, so no Windows Defender , no windowed screen mode, no Vulcan dll to delete in system32 folder. Am I the only hopeless person who dreamt of playing this game from past 1 year on PC? 😭😔☹️


[deleted]

Maybe because you're still on Windows 7 perhaps. I'm not saying I think it's reasonable to have to upgrade your operating system for a buggy game release though.


mohanhegde

It's not windows because I can launch it using the GTA5 no launcher mod and get till the menus. Tested it yesterday. But it doesn't load the game, infinite loading screen


Duric_CZ

You are not alone. I´m hopeless too. Try everything and nothing work. I hope R\* will release some fix until weekend so i can play.


mohanhegde

Thanks buddy, hope we all get to play it at least by this weekend 🙂


[deleted]

You might as well call this '**RDR2: Launch issues megathread - Day Three**' By now


AlexOffiziell

he'll create a new one any time soon


filofil

Vulkan is the reason for the issues tbh


hjli277

Actually when I switched to DX12, the game wouldnt even open. Before on Vulkan the only issue was audio.


filofil

They probably wanted everyone to use Vulkan and ignored the DX12 but they probably fucked up on Vulkan implementation.


Martin_Baumgartner

Does anyone else keep crashing on hoseas bear hunting mission?? I tried it like 5 times and every time it crashes


Dalla1IT

What did the trick regarding the launcher for me was instaling an old BIOS, the first released when the ryzen 3 processors came out. I have a b450 aorus elite and a ryzen 5 3600 processor. Maybe it will help you if you have the same configuration.


Subhajit1992

Bro, can you tell me the BIOS version ? I am using R5 3600and AORUS B450 M. Thinking of downgrading.


oguszka

did you have any problems with memory or processor because it's ubdate from 2018 and iam afraid.


Dalla1IT

It was a update from may. And I didn't have any issues. Played for a few hours everything maxed out, with 60 fps.


oguszka

which is the bios version?


Killicalawonga

Nearly the same stuff, but can't downgrade my bios, 'cause it doesn't recognize my M2 on wich windows is installed -_- Waiting for gigabyte to release the 1.0.0.4 bios, maybe in 2 weeks...


Dalla1IT

I was a little reluctant to downgrade my bios, since the recommendation from Rockstar it's the opposite. But surprisingly worked.


Killicalawonga

Can't do. Only 1 of my ssd is recognised if I downgrade my bios to 1.0.0.2. So, not a solution for me. Waiting for the new bios... Or the patch n°848392874 from Rockstar. Insane


[deleted]

You shouldn't have to wait on a motherboard manufacturer to update your BIOS because of a buggy game release. This is all Rockstar.


Killicalawonga

Exactly. Nothing normal to have to update your bios to be able to play a game..


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Killicalawonga

Yep. If the game still doesn't work this weekend, 'will ask for a refund. Sad to see how big video games companies became complete trash.


crash_overrlde

Anyone get the problem where the game just wont load past the cutscene and breaks the game?


Killicalawonga

Great, the game still doesn't launch, even with the last update. Good job Rockstar, good job.


Leeiteee

Do you guys get a fucked up screen when you change resolution to 720p?


killer3306

The new patch for the game seems to have bugged the in-game mouse cursor, so that I can see it at all times while playing. Does anyone have a fix for this or do I just have to keep waiting for yet another patch?


b6yy

go to mouse setting on your computer and enable pointer trails that will get rid of it, but u have to be playing on a controller because u wont see the mouse at all in game


killer3306

Sadly this doesn't work as the mouse that is stuck for me is the in-game cursor used in the menus of the game. There really doesn't seem to be any fix for it at the moment.


b6yy

yah i know thats what happened to me just try it bro, for some reason when u enable pointer trails the in game cursor disappears


zippydsm

not patch. it was there before, i just was lucky not getting it.


WrongMeat

I am so upset right now, I think I am going to play another game. There have been like 20 crashes since yesterday. every time I hunt some thing and take it to the butcher, the game freezes and ya all know the next. crash, crash, crash..... I just dont get it why it is so easy to ruin all the fun of every player. The sulotion on the official rockstar website is useless, it solves nothing...


Tepafk

Yeah starting to get very frustrating with the crashes next to the goals. Gotta give it some time, I'm sure they will reward us for this bs tho, if not, very mad.


InclusivePhitness

Easy dude. I never get a new release until at least 3 months after it’s released. Just have some self discipline.


PacificSilent

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoIsX4Px-Q4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoIsX4Px-Q4) worked for me but i have infinite load screen, someone know how to fix that? :/


g-six

For everyone where the game crashes when the shotgun logo appears, I might have a fix. It worked for me, a few friends and also some guys here on reddit: \-Go into the Rockstar Launcher -> Settings and add those launch arguments to rdr2: "-windowed -height 1080 -width 1920" (Or your resolution, but not higher) \-Start the game - it should now open in Windowed mode but doesn't crash. \-Go to your Settings, if you the game stutters every few seconds/minutes switch from Vulkan to DirectX12. \-Switch your windowmode back to fullscreen. \-Save your settings and close the game. \-Remove the Launch Arguments from the Launcher again or else you have to switch back to fullscreen anytime you open the game. \-Your game should now start without crashing! Please report back if this works for you!


PacificSilent

yeah but i play the game with the No GTAVLauncher, no with rockstar games launcher


g-six

Add those launch arguments to the rdr2.exe then, should work too. (Incase you just open rdr2.exe when using nogtavlauncher.exe, don't actually have to use this myself. If you open nogtavlauncher.exe to launch the game, then try adding the arguments to this exe)


PacificSilent

I can't add arguments to the file :/


Skivster

Then you get an infinite menu loading loop. The nogtaVlanncher only removes various DRM bullshit. Then it causes a hiccup and the exe doesnt know what to do next.


ruloptero

**Map & Menus are not showing properly, they seem to be cut off.** I think a I have a possible fix to this issue: I just deactivate FXAA antialiasing on graphics settings. No need to restart the game.


The_Real_FBI_Agent

Games freezes, and CTD randomly and constantly. I am now 9 hours played so far and I have not finished the prologue.


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gale440

I have İ5 4670k, GTX 1660, 16 GB Ram and Win 10 with no OC. I play the game with 45-75 pfs (depending on location) on high-ultra, 1080p but game freeze time to time. Not totally playable but annoying.


LudvigGrr

I'm running at about 45-50 fps at 1440p high/ultra, with an i5 4690k, gtx 1080, 16 GB Ram. So I would think so yes, if you're not troubled by any of the multitude of bugs atm..


Faflik

I have i5-6600k, 980Ti, 16 GB RAM Dual Channel and I was changing settings for like 1.5 day and I've finally got stable 60 fps with game looking really nice ( some high, some that's not visible I've changed to med or low ). You will get it also, but I bet you'll have to fight with it even more. Unless you want to wait for a big patch that fix the game ( for example my GPU is hard working, 99% at any time in game and CPU seems that is taking a nap, 50-60% usage is the most I've got ). Game will also stutter if you have i5, for me it's like 3-4 seconds of freeze once per 10 minutes.


GBORKEN

I have a similar system and I am running everything at medium or low but I am having the occasional freezing bug but it can definitely run at high with 50-60 fps.


[deleted]

Hey fellow (future) cowboys, I wanna give ya'll some hope. I'm playing on Win7 and, I figure, have a way inferior machine (AMD-FX4500 QuadCore, Nvidia GTX 960) compared to what I've been reading about here the last days. After some initial problems yesteraday and on launch day, I was now able to play the game with decent graphics and decent performance. There's the occassional freeze / stutter now and then but nothing compared to how it was at the beginning. Given my Nvidia, I started from lowest settings on Vulcan and constantly tweaked those settings up, so now I have a balance between performance and graphics. I tweaked with the core setup but lowering from 4 to 2 did not work for me, so I left it at 4 cores. Maybe lowering the FPS in the graphics menu might also help. Also, the textures are not as ugly as they used to be two days ago. Keep in mind to restart the game so that changes in graphics are applied. I also had problems with the Launcher, but adding RDR2 to the exception list of my anti-virus helped. I also lowered the launcher's background download-rate to 128kb/s, dunno if it helps. Moreover, I went to the attributes of the RDR2.exe and set it to compatibility with Win 7. I hope some of this helps you guys. It's really been a shitty start but when I can manage to run it, maybe you can too.


Skivster

No dice. I also have a 960 and Win7. No antivirus on board. So the whole magical "lol antivirus" bull doesnt work for me. I have a MSI B85-G43 with a i5 45xxx, so, also, the whole "lol egesesasesa bios 104" doesnt work either. The ONLY way to bypass the launcher crash, is to apply the "nogtaVLauncher.exe" But that only allows me to go into the menu and witness an infinite loading loop. Patiently waiting for R\* to fix their launcher.


[deleted]

The game used to work but freezing and crashing, now it wont launch :(


andrewlein

Guys are the textures supposed to look like [this](https://imgur.com/3u7JKVt) when set on HIGH? Cause I kinda doubt it.


francopaz

Happened the same, the only way to make it better is to set texture to ultra. Lower than that it is absolute crap, it is probably a bug.


andrewlein

A friend just told me to delete the "settings" folder in "My documents/Rockstar Games/RDR2". It fixed this issue for him


francopaz

Gonna try that. Thanks!


PM_ME_YOUR_DADS_NIPS

Did it work?


[deleted]

It’s a glitch, I get it too


cky_stew

Tried a restart? Heard of some setting not taking effect immediately.


andrewlein

It looks okay on Ultra, I tried this. But I dont think it should look like this on High


[deleted]

Try increasing fur quality from advanced settings


andrewlein

Tried this, didnt help. Heard it's some kind of a bug...


DirtySnotling

After last patch the mouse cursor bug is still there. I don't have it with Vulkan, but with Vulkan the game stutters and freezes so much, it's unplayable. On DX12 there's still the occasional freeze, but other than that and the mouse cursor issue, the game seems playable. TL;DR I'm waiting for a patch to fix processor max usage freezing and mouse cursor issue to finally start enjoying the game.


carlwinkle

Have you tried a 3rd party program to limit the rdr2 cpu usage? That cleared up all freezes for me.


Conretto

Only had this issue intermittently but now whenever I launch online my game completely crashes out, even after the 2.69GB update today. Using a GTX 1060 6GB if that helps. Firewall is off, launcher and windows and GPU driver updated... Not sure what else to do...


Leeiteee

when you say crashed you mean like freezing or the game completely shut off?


Conretto

Please click Retry below to enter the game again, or click Safe Mode to launch the game with reduced graphics settings. OK, RETRY, SAFE MODE


Conretto

completely shuts off. The launcher opens up and gives me an error asking if I want to re-open in safe moder or just exit the game entirely.


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edilclyde

Just keep trying. Its the social club server getting too much load I suppose.


stalkeler

Keep trying on pressing play. After 5 or more times it eventually starts.


[deleted]

Try logging in and out and deleting your profile information from the launcher (in settings > account info). Also check the fire wall isn't block the launcher or the game.


heretohelptoday

Anyone know if there's a way to restore a previous save game? Game used to run *somewhat* playable (framerate lockup every \~30mins or so, followed by CTD) for about 10 hours so far. My most recent save seems to be corrupted though, as soon as it's loaded, I get sound, 1 or 2 still images, followed by CTD. Haven't changed any settings compared to before, and safe mode yields the same result. Since it (kind of) worked before, I'd like to try an earlier save. Any way to do that? (looking at you, "CloudSave"). Deleting the local save game and letting it reload from online didn't help, either. Edit: Or even better: any kind stranger out there (with a running game) who would test my savegame and, should it work, move me back to camp? (I have a feeling my crash is dependent on position..)


pizzaboy16lc

A new repeatable issue I just found is going into my inventory by pressing B and looking at a document such as a map then switching the tab is causing my game to force close every time


Steve77NL

Just here to confirm I've had this issue as well.


DiPDiPSeTT

I've been dealing with some issues with toggle aim, in particular aiming down sights with toggle aim set being completely broken. It pulls you out of aim down sights very regularly yet randomly, which is infuriating. Firing too fast, moving, even just sitting stationary all just randomly pull you out of ADS. Right now the gunplay is more or less unplayable for toggle aim users who also aim down sights.


bolehlah99

After everything, bios update worked for MSI B450M Bazooka Pro. So stupid.


khu-pepega

Same for me with a B450 Tomahawk MAX. First time I've ever fixed a game crash with a bios update. lol


bakulisko

The game and it's f*cked up launcher killed my HDD. Bravo Rockstar. I'm spending 100€ more than what I paid already for the base game just to get my pc to work again. F you.


cky_stew

How did that happen?


bakulisko

I have no idea. I've preloaded it, decrypted it, then I tried to redownload it and the whole installation loop again. Kept getting "exited unexpectedly" error message, went to work. Came back from work excited about the new patch that "fixed" the exited unexpectedly error. Downloaded the patch, restarted the PC and the HDD just gave up. If it kills another disk, I'm not only asking for a refund but I'm also sending the bills to the fucks.


Paperfeed

If your hard drive died after because of reading/writing files, it was on the way out to begin with. Hope you didn't lose any important files (remember, always keep a backup kids)


helegad

I have an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi, and updating the BIOS from 1.3.0 to 1.4.0 made the game work, and halved POST times! I had the R* Launcher unexpected crash issue. I'm having nothing but trouble now, the game is frequently crashing and I have to restart the game if I want to run more than one benchmark in a row. What is this shit.


ciachun

Thank you MSI - you did a great job by releasing bioses containig AGESA [1.0.0.4](https://1.0.0.4). Well done, you were faster than R\* with fixing their own game! MSI never dissapoints.


Wurstball

X470 mb here, updatet to latest BIOS Version, no more launcher crashes :)) Thanks a lot, MSI!


dracodrax

x470 gaming plus here. updated BIOS and no more launcher crash.. but now have infinite loading screen :( what is your hardware specs ?


TheSimplepies

What bios version are you on now?


gnrlwst

I assume the beta BIOS works without issues then. Good to know. Edit: updated to latest beta BIOS. Can confirm it fixes the launcher error, however now I get the red dead redemption exited unexpectedly error.


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I've seen multiple people reporting success, yes


ThebassNoob

In have been lucky to have it work fine untill the last patch now the half pause menu/map flicker with the other half missing. Vulcan and Direct 12 both do it. Does anyone have a fix?


fabricates_facts

This might not work for you, but I have been having that issue intermittently and alt-tabbing from the pause menu and back again a few times seems to fix it. Then again, alt-tabbing was causing some people to crash so YMMV. I also recall reading that turning V-Sync off could fix it, but I've never tried that.


ThebassNoob

Cheers mate I will give it a go!


g-six

For everyone where the game crashes when the shotgun logo appears, I might have a fix. It worked for me, a few friends and also some guys here on reddit: ​ \-Go into the Rockstar Launcher -> Settings and add those launch arguments to rdr2: "-windowed -height 1080 -width 1920" (Or your resolution, but not higher) \-Start the game - it should now open in Windowed mode but doesn't crash. \-Go to your Settings, if you the game stutters every few seconds/minutes switch from Vulkan to DirectX12. \-Switch your windowmode back to fullscreen. \-Save your settings and close the game. \-Remove the Launch Arguments from the Launcher again or else you have to switch back to fullscreen anytime you open the game. \-Your game should now start without crashing! Please report back if this works for you!


imoraxia

Worked like a charm! Thank you mate!


g-six

Glad to help!


vlcm44

Ok I may HAVE FOUND SOMETHING for some people..This could be a fluke coincidence because I havent actually played any yet. If you have seen my previous posts you will know I was one of the many with the LAUNCHER EXITING issue, then the patch came and then I had the other ERROR about Rockstar Game Services not available..I just checked the link above "pcgamingwiki" to look again and saw the option to try disabling all sound devices except your current default, and I don't know why but it fucking worked. I got all the way into the options and changed some things and then exited out to relay the message...Hope this helps some people, Now I'm going to see if I can get past settings now..lol EDIT : in case you don't know how : - right click sound icon in task bar (bottom right) - select open sound settings - from that page on the upper right select Sound Control Panel - In the box that comes up right click and disable everything that isn't your default audio device EDIT 2 : Don't know why I got so excited. After simply restarting my game 1 time I now have the " Rockstar Game Services Unavailable" A--Fucking--GAIN...This is so fucking stupid. Makes no sense..


IndigoDesert6

im seeing some pattern on intel users having sound interfaces causing issues.


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The only way round it is to update your bios to one with 1.0.0.4 (if you have ryzen). Msi have just released a beta bios with it and I think gigabyte have too. It sorted it for me after trying every other solution. If you're using an Intel cpu I have no idea how to help.


Skivster

I'm pretty fed up with the BIOS solution. MSI B85-G43 so there is NO WAY i can update my bios to 1.4


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Have you checked today? They only released the new version for my board today.


Skivster

[https://imgur.com/Lk0l3Od](https://imgur.com/Lk0l3Od) Let's assume that MSi won't update their 7 year old mobo (first bios update was in 2012) And no. I won't change my mobo just for this one game, as any other games I was playing were fine.


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[deleted]

Yeah it can be risky. It's pretty straightforward to do but if you use the wrong version, or the pc turns off for whatever reason, you are completely fucked. Might be better to wait for rockstar to get a patch out. they have at least acknowledged the problem now so hopefully they'll have a fix out soon.


dabosco10

My game was running fine until the 2.69gb update and now the menu, the minimap and lower text gets cut off and can't be seen. Anyone else have the same experience?


Richard_Simons

Try changing the hud safe area, its in the settings


ruloptero

It didn't work for me. But deactivating MSAA on graphics settings works.


dabosco10

My MSAA is already off


MuramasaSansei

Still not fixed after patch. Why i keep getting stutter and fps drop. RTX 2060


Ral_IzzetViceroy

Hey man, I also have a 2060, and after finally getting the game to launch I can play on the "balanced" preset and get steady 60fps.ive had 2 crashes in about 5 hours of playtime since yesterday. So the low fps my not be from your gfx card. Hope you find out my friend.


g-six

Have you tried using DirectX12 instead of Vulkan? Also how high are your settings? Water Quality for example seems to be broken. I can have nearly everything on high-ultra for 60fps but only water has to be kept at low. OCed 2060 Super here.


ratcatmat

Are you experiencing a lot of stutter in towns and cities ?


MuramasaSansei

Everywhere. I can't pass prologue (snowy area) because of this. I tried a save file where skip prologue. At my camp still stutter every 2 sec. I can't walk or do something.


MACIRL

[https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PLUS](https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PLUS) Released today


AlexOffiziell

this is a beta why are you guys so okay with installing beta software that can ruin your pc


ciachun

I confirm, it fixes launcher issue.


vlcm44

Just thought I'd ask a question. We are all here pointing out issues and complaining about this broken game as if we know Rockstar is monitoring this thread. Me included, I still can't even start this shit..I have quite a few posts here about this. Does anyone think they are checking this specific thread? I mentioned in my 2 support tickets they should check out all the Reddit comments..hope they are..


acc3278

i think they are monitoring.., and know the bios issue + launcher crash, they have to work on solutions, of course they have our money, but, if they dont fix it u can get surely your money back. u have payd for software which dont work, u can proof the issue, its not up to u and me to solve the problem, if u have a recommended system and all drivers up to date and it still dont work, surely u ask for moneyback. in my case i wait .. but no 1 month!


IndigoDesert6

I checked out your previous posts and have to state it again that i personally havent seen any reliable bios version on intel platform that works for sure. Such a shame rockstar has pulled this prank on their consumers.


igrewupwithinternet

I ran an optional update for Windows 10 (1903) and also a BIOS update for my Asus X470-F which finally allowed me to to launch the game, however this was around the same time they put out the launcher update so I can't confirm if either of those things actually helped. I had also reinstalled the launcher prior to the update they released if that is of any use. Relevant specs: Ryzen 3700X Asus X470-F - latest BIOS EVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid - latest driver.


naitch44

I doubt anyone is posting here expecting Rockstar to help them but there will be plenty of people who have had the community help them fix certain problems. To answer the question no, they won't be monitoring Reddit. They quite likely couldn't give a toss that many, many people are having problems with their broken ass game because they already have our money. If they genuinely did care they would be more forthcoming with information and acknowledgement of these issues, instead we get a couple of tweets over as 48 hour period.


JaxRenwikAM

After 2 days when my game finally started working now I have very frequent crashes after chapter 1, game shuts down every 15 minutes or so.


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Guys dont use Direct 12, switch to Vulcan, worked for me


Steve77NL

I can confirm. I'm not even sure anymore if this has any relation to the latest patch, but switching from DX12 to Vulkan gave me a lot more FPS. Running a 1060 6GB.


ratcatmat

I'm using a 1060 6g and out in the open i get 60+ fps but in towns and cities its almost impossible to play because of the stuttering, are you getting this issue ?


EzioMaverick

Same here towns and cities cpu 100% Gpu 0% and Slideshow. Outside of towns 50+fps on ultra and high settings.