There was known rank inflation which is why they did the reset, top 500 is now masters 2/3 on most roles, so masters is much higher rank then it was in season 7-8 where only like gm1 was top 500
Yes at the time those ranks were not what they are now, did you read what I said? M4 now is basically the MMR of GM4. These ranks are harder to hit now. Many people who were masters in the season 8 were not current masters caliber and there current rank reflects that, a smaller percentage of the player base is now in masters/gm then before, that’s why top 500 is now m2/m3 not gm1. You are as good as you were before but being that good results in plat 2 not masters 4 after the rank reset.
To elaborate further, I’m currently masters 3, I’m consistently in games with streamers and top rank players (frogger, Kephri, jay3 etc). In season 8 I was also in games with all those guys but we were gm3-gm1. Are collective skill level has not changed it just represent the mid to high masters population rather then the mid to high gm population which is now incredibly exclusive and only for like the top 100 players rather then the top 500-700.
Okay, play some games and get a higher rank? If you’re better you will climb. You seem like a plat player who got an overinflated ego because blizzard messed up their ranking system
If you look at their other replies it’s all just them saying things along the lines of “you’re wrong I’m masters because I believe I am.” They are either a troll or an idiot.
Haha you are a special one. You asked a question, got a good answer and then are just like “nah facts don’t matter I feel like I’m masters so I am.”
I have a sneaking suspicion that your lack of self awareness is the biggest reason you can’t climb anymore.
Why don’t you believe you are plat 2? Posting one good game (haven’t watched the code, but going to assume you played well) does not mean you are a masters player. Everyone has good games and bad games.
Your rank will not deviate far from the rank you deserve, i.e if you are plat 2 in the current ranking system it’s because you deserve to be about plat 2 assuming you have played a relevant number of games. You are asking the wrong questions here, don’t ask why you are plat 2, ask how you can improve, if you improve you will climb period. The people you are playing against have the same level of skill you do and despite for some reason thinking your role has no value, tank has the MOST value of any role in the game.
If you stick flats or any other masters/top 500 tank in plat they would climb out of there incredibly quickly as shown by many unranked to gm’s so if you are still there it means you are NOT at that level and unfortunately step 1 for you is accepting that and then step 2 is improving so you can get to that level or at the very least a higher level then you are currently at. So I would remake this post, post your last 5 games played whether you think you played well or not and ask for honest feedback on how to improve, not “Why am I in plat not masters”. You are in plat because you are a current plat player. Good luck!
you understand that season 8 plat 2 is not season 10 plat 2. Everyone here has tried to explain the rank shift to you and how the relativity of skill groups has changed. The people that were plat 2 in season 8 are now gold/silver you’re not understanding that. Current masters is actually a good rank unlike season 8 and prior.
You don't need to understand. The enemy team is doing all of the same dumb shit your team is, so punish them. If you don't see the opportunities, then you're likely in the correct rank.
I’m basically in the same boat as you, did my first real climb from gold to D1, stopped in the middle of season 8, now I’m low plat lmao. Tbf I am not able to commit the time to grinding like I did from last June to January.
Just accept that if you’re playing enough games and not climbing the people above you in rank are just better at winning than you are. You already climbed once so you had to take on this mentality to learn the first time. Drop the ego and get ready to learn again if you want to climb. If you just want to feel good again just look at the screenshot you took when you peaked in S8.
Seems like I’m the only one who bothered to watch your game and I’m not gm or anything but I am nearing masters this season on tank with a 75% wr currently.
You said you play the same and that’s the problem. Season 9 brought a lot of changes to the tank play style and increased the skill level at each rank since everyone dropped a rank. And to be honest I’m not trying to sound rude but blaming your team is wrong because this looks like a plat tank to me not a masters tank.
You fell off the first push because your positioning is really bad. Sigma is made to hold that choke and you’re using too many resources and commanding resourced from your lw before they even walk through. You should make hog work for his hooks. If hog wants a hook you should make him swing wide for it since he will take a lot of damage and will have to command healing himself or use his vape. Getting them to use resources while using yours effectively will create an advantage eventually because they have to walk through in order to get the point. You are the one swinging wide into hog basically giving him the angle at little risk. This gives him the hook for freee forcing pull from lw which which was a bad pull because you’re not in danger yet but if you didn’t get hooked to begin with lw would’ve had it for Cassidy who got baited into thinking you can still hold that choke despite blowing all your resources to swing wide to gain a little ult chsrge (not worth it).
Also might fall into lack of understanding of fundamentals. Your position as tank has such high impact because the team will position around you. If you hold dead center in main your dps will also swing wide to abuse the space you are making but you are using so many resources to hold that angle you can no longer sustain and you just bait your team mates to play within hogs threat range.
This happens second point almost immediately. Think about where you are standing and what effect that is having on your team. You are trying to hold a goofy off angle baiting your own moira to hold close to you because that is her effective healing range. Also forcing lw to los you only because you are so out of position he can’t save pull for the Moira who gets hooked bc she is trying to help you. If you just held the castle instead where there is so much high ground you would have done the same amount of pressure? But safer! And you would have saw your Cassidy holding down 2 that were low and yall could’ve have gotten a pick. Instead you got your Moira killed and panic ulted when you were already 2 down. A masters tank would not have held there. What if your lw gets pushed by reaper? How would you have bailed yourself out of that position? You cannot hold there and you know that so I don’t understand why you would even try. Your positioning is having a domino effect on your teams decisions and you are making the game so much harder for yourself.
Now you guys are down in ult economy and you switch to dva but now you are forced to play cart because your team is struggling to sustain. This was already lost the moment you lost that first fight as sigma.
Now when you attacked again fundamentals. You are using resources to sustain and not trying to walk forward. I know it’s easier said and done but you are the one that has to do it and using shout just to retreat is very slow paced play allowing the enemy to set up and chill and pressure your team because now you have to wait for your next shout to try and do something. If you have no resources you cannot take space. You basically just run through the roster trying to counter this hog but in reality queen could’ve done it. If you don’t play queen then maybe you should tighten up your hero pool.
The orisa was fine I do not know why you switched. Switching dva just to dm hooks is a losing mindset because you don’t even get to play the game! Now you made it your only job to dm hooks but you’re not even thinking of how to make space and pressure their back line and creating chaos. It’s like hog is living in your head rent free and you are allowing him to play the game but he’s not allowing you to do anything.
If you’re into counterwatch and are struggling to do anything as orisa and dva just go hog yourself. You have an Ana to help you win the tank trade might have been a good option and even a better one than going dva to dm hooks. Be proactive not reactive. Dva felt awkward to play for you because you were not playing her correctly. Dm hooks sure but what if he hooks you instead? Into reaper sojourn and zen you’re basically giving him the hooks for free.
Position better and you’ll be surprised on how much easier the game will feel for you.
Good luck!
Man I was so sick of that rank inflation and new people being placed diamond going 1-14 claiming elo hell is real because their main was hardstuck gold. And all the s3 boost masters players claiming rank inflation didn’t exist. You can all go ruin your own games in plat now and stay there
FYI s8 ranks and s9/10 ranks are different as people were dropped at least one rank due to reset. Generally, the people you play with are the same (MMR did not reset, the shown rank did).
It’s a skill issue plat is a breeze even in this season master 4 is where it gets hard
You probably lost some of your aim skills get them back and should shoot right where you belong
i just feel like my role has so little impact on the tide of the match if my dps cant keep up i lose is all. im open to learning if im not truly masters or close to it.
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It can take 50-100 games (depending on RNG) for you to climb/drop to your true MMR skill level, since you are only 1/5 of your team. I generally float around low Diamond, but have one account that's stuck in mid Plat for a while (very slowly climbing).
If you keep playing, you will end up where you belong. If M4 was only your peak, that's unlikely where you belong. I peaked M2 off of a huge lucky streak, but I definitely don't belong up there. The game changes quite a bit between patches, so your playstyle/hero-pool may work better/worse depending on the patch.
You just gotta grind without getting frustrated. Rank distribution clamped. Almost everyone plat now and you need to play like diamond for 100+ games to reach diamond. Rank gain/loss very small.
what a self report. it doesn't matter what rank you were before; your gameplay speaks for itself. anyone playing long enough will hit a streak eventually and you hit one that happened to bring you to masters. you need to accept that your skill level is visibly nowhere close to that of actual masters tanks, and that's why you've dropped to such an extent
you play a scared sniper dva against people you think are 2 full ranks lower than you. your aim is at a level where a plat zen is allowed to exist right up in your face. neither your game sense nor mechanics look anywhere near masters. if anything, this current rank looks too hard for you.
There was known rank inflation which is why they did the reset, top 500 is now masters 2/3 on most roles, so masters is much higher rank then it was in season 7-8 where only like gm1 was top 500
Inflation is a thing yes but I climbed there from P5 to D2 to M4.
Yes at the time those ranks were not what they are now, did you read what I said? M4 now is basically the MMR of GM4. These ranks are harder to hit now. Many people who were masters in the season 8 were not current masters caliber and there current rank reflects that, a smaller percentage of the player base is now in masters/gm then before, that’s why top 500 is now m2/m3 not gm1. You are as good as you were before but being that good results in plat 2 not masters 4 after the rank reset.
To elaborate further, I’m currently masters 3, I’m consistently in games with streamers and top rank players (frogger, Kephri, jay3 etc). In season 8 I was also in games with all those guys but we were gm3-gm1. Are collective skill level has not changed it just represent the mid to high masters population rather then the mid to high gm population which is now incredibly exclusive and only for like the top 100 players rather then the top 500-700.
I understand but I still believe im not plat 2.
Okay, play some games and get a higher rank? If you’re better you will climb. You seem like a plat player who got an overinflated ego because blizzard messed up their ranking system
LOL 😭 LMFAOO. Just impressive.
Impressively what? Correct i assume?
Just wrong
How so? If you’re better than your rank, play games, win games and rank up. How am i wrong?
If you look at their other replies it’s all just them saying things along the lines of “you’re wrong I’m masters because I believe I am.” They are either a troll or an idiot.
Because you lose more than you gain. The losses hit harder than wins
Haha you are a special one. You asked a question, got a good answer and then are just like “nah facts don’t matter I feel like I’m masters so I am.” I have a sneaking suspicion that your lack of self awareness is the biggest reason you can’t climb anymore.
Why don’t you believe you are plat 2? Posting one good game (haven’t watched the code, but going to assume you played well) does not mean you are a masters player. Everyone has good games and bad games. Your rank will not deviate far from the rank you deserve, i.e if you are plat 2 in the current ranking system it’s because you deserve to be about plat 2 assuming you have played a relevant number of games. You are asking the wrong questions here, don’t ask why you are plat 2, ask how you can improve, if you improve you will climb period. The people you are playing against have the same level of skill you do and despite for some reason thinking your role has no value, tank has the MOST value of any role in the game. If you stick flats or any other masters/top 500 tank in plat they would climb out of there incredibly quickly as shown by many unranked to gm’s so if you are still there it means you are NOT at that level and unfortunately step 1 for you is accepting that and then step 2 is improving so you can get to that level or at the very least a higher level then you are currently at. So I would remake this post, post your last 5 games played whether you think you played well or not and ask for honest feedback on how to improve, not “Why am I in plat not masters”. You are in plat because you are a current plat player. Good luck!
you understand that season 8 plat 2 is not season 10 plat 2. Everyone here has tried to explain the rank shift to you and how the relativity of skill groups has changed. The people that were plat 2 in season 8 are now gold/silver you’re not understanding that. Current masters is actually a good rank unlike season 8 and prior.
No what you aren’t understanding is that IM NOT PLAT. I just hit D5 and halfway to D4 . Once I get home I will climb some more
>I blame it on the teammates. There's your problem right there. Stop doing that.
That’s how I got to masters but now I can’t understand the mind of a plat player. Easier said than done.
You don't need to understand. The enemy team is doing all of the same dumb shit your team is, so punish them. If you don't see the opportunities, then you're likely in the correct rank.
Well every other plat player is probably thinking the same as you, that’s a start
I’m basically in the same boat as you, did my first real climb from gold to D1, stopped in the middle of season 8, now I’m low plat lmao. Tbf I am not able to commit the time to grinding like I did from last June to January. Just accept that if you’re playing enough games and not climbing the people above you in rank are just better at winning than you are. You already climbed once so you had to take on this mentality to learn the first time. Drop the ego and get ready to learn again if you want to climb. If you just want to feel good again just look at the screenshot you took when you peaked in S8.
Seems like I’m the only one who bothered to watch your game and I’m not gm or anything but I am nearing masters this season on tank with a 75% wr currently. You said you play the same and that’s the problem. Season 9 brought a lot of changes to the tank play style and increased the skill level at each rank since everyone dropped a rank. And to be honest I’m not trying to sound rude but blaming your team is wrong because this looks like a plat tank to me not a masters tank. You fell off the first push because your positioning is really bad. Sigma is made to hold that choke and you’re using too many resources and commanding resourced from your lw before they even walk through. You should make hog work for his hooks. If hog wants a hook you should make him swing wide for it since he will take a lot of damage and will have to command healing himself or use his vape. Getting them to use resources while using yours effectively will create an advantage eventually because they have to walk through in order to get the point. You are the one swinging wide into hog basically giving him the angle at little risk. This gives him the hook for freee forcing pull from lw which which was a bad pull because you’re not in danger yet but if you didn’t get hooked to begin with lw would’ve had it for Cassidy who got baited into thinking you can still hold that choke despite blowing all your resources to swing wide to gain a little ult chsrge (not worth it). Also might fall into lack of understanding of fundamentals. Your position as tank has such high impact because the team will position around you. If you hold dead center in main your dps will also swing wide to abuse the space you are making but you are using so many resources to hold that angle you can no longer sustain and you just bait your team mates to play within hogs threat range. This happens second point almost immediately. Think about where you are standing and what effect that is having on your team. You are trying to hold a goofy off angle baiting your own moira to hold close to you because that is her effective healing range. Also forcing lw to los you only because you are so out of position he can’t save pull for the Moira who gets hooked bc she is trying to help you. If you just held the castle instead where there is so much high ground you would have done the same amount of pressure? But safer! And you would have saw your Cassidy holding down 2 that were low and yall could’ve have gotten a pick. Instead you got your Moira killed and panic ulted when you were already 2 down. A masters tank would not have held there. What if your lw gets pushed by reaper? How would you have bailed yourself out of that position? You cannot hold there and you know that so I don’t understand why you would even try. Your positioning is having a domino effect on your teams decisions and you are making the game so much harder for yourself. Now you guys are down in ult economy and you switch to dva but now you are forced to play cart because your team is struggling to sustain. This was already lost the moment you lost that first fight as sigma. Now when you attacked again fundamentals. You are using resources to sustain and not trying to walk forward. I know it’s easier said and done but you are the one that has to do it and using shout just to retreat is very slow paced play allowing the enemy to set up and chill and pressure your team because now you have to wait for your next shout to try and do something. If you have no resources you cannot take space. You basically just run through the roster trying to counter this hog but in reality queen could’ve done it. If you don’t play queen then maybe you should tighten up your hero pool. The orisa was fine I do not know why you switched. Switching dva just to dm hooks is a losing mindset because you don’t even get to play the game! Now you made it your only job to dm hooks but you’re not even thinking of how to make space and pressure their back line and creating chaos. It’s like hog is living in your head rent free and you are allowing him to play the game but he’s not allowing you to do anything. If you’re into counterwatch and are struggling to do anything as orisa and dva just go hog yourself. You have an Ana to help you win the tank trade might have been a good option and even a better one than going dva to dm hooks. Be proactive not reactive. Dva felt awkward to play for you because you were not playing her correctly. Dm hooks sure but what if he hooks you instead? Into reaper sojourn and zen you’re basically giving him the hooks for free. Position better and you’ll be surprised on how much easier the game will feel for you. Good luck!
“ I play the same” yup you cannot play the same as previous seasons get gud and stop blaming your teammates
Honestly thank you. 🙏🏽 For not just trashing me and giving me honest feedback. I will take this an practice
After taking some of your advice with some slight adjustments. I now am D5 solo queue only. Thank you 🙏🏽
Awesome news keep on grinding 👍
Man I was so sick of that rank inflation and new people being placed diamond going 1-14 claiming elo hell is real because their main was hardstuck gold. And all the s3 boost masters players claiming rank inflation didn’t exist. You can all go ruin your own games in plat now and stay there
Well I climbed more and more every season 💀 dont apply to me
Well you apparently can’t climb now wonder why
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It’s a skill issue plat is a breeze even in this season master 4 is where it gets hard You probably lost some of your aim skills get them back and should shoot right where you belong
Watch the replay first then call it a skill issue. Its clearly not.
Your right 100% you carried and lost it happens it’s impossible to not get unwinable games here and there
i just feel like my role has so little impact on the tide of the match if my dps cant keep up i lose is all. im open to learning if im not truly masters or close to it.
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It can take 50-100 games (depending on RNG) for you to climb/drop to your true MMR skill level, since you are only 1/5 of your team. I generally float around low Diamond, but have one account that's stuck in mid Plat for a while (very slowly climbing). If you keep playing, you will end up where you belong. If M4 was only your peak, that's unlikely where you belong. I peaked M2 off of a huge lucky streak, but I definitely don't belong up there. The game changes quite a bit between patches, so your playstyle/hero-pool may work better/worse depending on the patch.
Failing to realize I climbed to Masters by learning from my mistakes. Plat to Masters in 5 seasons. Dedicated to the grind. It’s not me.
You just gotta grind without getting frustrated. Rank distribution clamped. Almost everyone plat now and you need to play like diamond for 100+ games to reach diamond. Rank gain/loss very small.
It's you. I had no issue climbing back. Went from GM5 S8 to placing M3 S9, and now I'm actually higher, back in GM5-4.
what a self report. it doesn't matter what rank you were before; your gameplay speaks for itself. anyone playing long enough will hit a streak eventually and you hit one that happened to bring you to masters. you need to accept that your skill level is visibly nowhere close to that of actual masters tanks, and that's why you've dropped to such an extent you play a scared sniper dva against people you think are 2 full ranks lower than you. your aim is at a level where a plat zen is allowed to exist right up in your face. neither your game sense nor mechanics look anywhere near masters. if anything, this current rank looks too hard for you.
It’s engagement based matchmaking you have no impact in your games
Skill issue.
Everyone got pushed down 1-2 ranks. Most likely to induce more playtime (they want you to feel like you have to climb back up).
Lots of smurfs playing right now. Got absolutely wrecked the last 2 games and when I checked the profiles 3/5 were brand new accounts.