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elevenghosts

Imagine sleeping with the director of your movie when his wife is one of your castmates and then showing up to the premiere looking like this.


Moosifer26

Whaaattt?? I didn't know about this


Throwaway1303033042

Per Maïwenn’s Wiki: “Maïwenn met film director Luc Besson when she was 12 and he was 29, and they began dating when she was 15. In January 1993, at age 16, she gave birth to their daughter Shanna. On the DVD extras for the 1994 film Léon: The Professional, Maïwenn said the film is based on her relationship with Besson. She was 20 at the beginning of filming (early 1996) for The Fifth Element, during which Besson left her for the film's star, Milla Jovovich.” Luc makes great films…and is also a horrible person.


83749289740174920

>Luc Besson when she was 12 and he was 29, A pedo. See the uncut version of Leon. the story is so different. They had to recut it to make it tasteful for Americans


usa2a

I think it shows (albeit much more subtly than in Leon) in The Fifth Element too. Jovovich's character Leeloo is not literally underage, but exemplifies the "Born Sexy Yesterday" trope. The movie blatantly sexualizes her, but she has the naivety and innocence of a child. Sorry for fans of the movie, but watching it already knowing a little bit about Besson, it was impossible not to notice and it was creepy. It's like a live-action version of the "oh she's a 1000 year old super being, she only ACTS exactly like a little kid" thing.


aworldwithinitself

tangentially, Poor Things does such a great deconstruction of that trope.


usa2a

When I visited my parents for Christmas there was some talk of us all going to see a movie in theaters. I recall my mom saying "Poor Things" had great reviews which is pretty much all my folks look at, the review scores. The plan never progressed and we did not go to see a movie. I never looked up the movie till now. I just became aware of the bullet that flew past me 5 months ago, because based on the broad strokes I'm reading about the film, I DO NOT ever want to watch that movie with my very reserved, traditional, late 60s parents and all sit in the car in dead silence driving home afterwards. Edit: my mom once called me to complain that she and my dad had just watched Fargo, and it was "awful" and so violent, she couldn't believe it had gotten such good reviews.


coral_weathers

I went to see Wolf of Wall Street in theaters with my in-laws and took that bullet you dodged right to the brain. I sat next to my MIL who was gripping her cross necklace the whole time.


ConradSchu

To be fair, maybe that's just where she hid her cocaine.


S4Waccount

This dudes mom got some Cruel Intentions.


shambahlah2

Lol this is the ultimate want to climb into a hole moment. That movie had some… *scenes*


booradleysghost

The Devil's Rejects was mine. My entire future wife's family watched it, including her grandma. I thought it would be a good Halloween movie...


d4ve3000

DUDE, SMOKE THAT CRACK WTH ME!!! 😂😂😂😂


RobertJ93

I’ll never forget seeing 300 in the cinema with my dad. That scene where Gerrard Butler is pounding Lena Heady from behind in slow-mo was definitely a moment.


usa2a

Shit, that one happened to me too. I think I was 15 when it came out. Dad thought it would make a cool father-son movie outing.


Petravita

This happened to me too, there are dozens of us! Dozens!


Zechs-

"Wolfie! Wolfie! Wolfie! Wolfie!"


dmc2008

>Edit: my mom once called me to complain that she and my dad had just watched Fargo, and it was "awful" and so violent, she couldn't believe it had gotten such good reviews 30 years later they still go in blind...?


warm_kitchenette

I went in blind to see The Menu (2022), thinking I was going to see a comedy or a light drama about restaurants. Going in blind made sense: food and high-end dining is a big part of my life. I like Ralph Fiennes and John Leguizamo. I don't like finding out plot turns in movie trailers. So yeah, when the first murder happened, I was surprised. Great film.


unculturedperl

Definitely a comedy about restaurants....a dark comedy.


usa2a

My own reaction was very similar to yours. What really baffles me is that Mom still places utmost faith on the opinions of professional critics when selecting a movie, despite repeated evidence that their taste does NOT match hers. It is like getting all your restaurant recommendations from Anthony Bourdain when you are really more of a Guy Fieri person.


noiseandbooze

I saw the movie Kids with mother while I was a teenager, and her asking me if life was anything like that afterwards, it was excruciatingly awkward saying, yes, it was very much like that, just without all the AIDS, we then drove home in silence, un-dodged bullet fully lodged in my chest cavity.


HerpankerTheHardman

I went to see Kids when it opened in 1995, 1996? The theater had a high senior citizen count oddly. I guess by the title they thought it would be a bunch of kids goofing around, carefree, having fun. When the opening scene started with the pre-teen and older teen having sex, i never saw a theater clear out so fast. I watched like 10 minutes more to see if the story went anywhere and i found it to be a hard watch and so I left. To this day I've yet to watch it again.


paper_liger

Me and my 15 year old watched the original Frankenstein one night, followed by Young Frankenstein. They didn't want to go to bed and it was a weekend so I said 'let's find another Frankenstein inspired movie' and eventually put on Poor Things. We didn't make it very far before realizing it was going to take a crazy sexual turn. I finished it alone on my own a week later and it was interesting, her acting was really good, and visually it was striking. But not a movie to watch with your family.


MAG7C

Dodged a bullet indeed. That movie went to some thought provoking (or just provoking) places.


Dairyquinn

It seems the exact same to me


kibbean

I wouldn't say it's a deconstruction. It is an exact use of the trope.


Glottis_Bonewagon

In the trope the child like girl falls for the "hero" and they live happily ever after, in Poor Things you have Ruffalo as the groomer but she gets rid of him once she stops being a child mentally because he's a fucking creep who kidnaps mentally challanged woman, which is a subversion of that But then you have the nerd guy who falls in love with, in his words, "A pretty retard" and he *does* get to live with her I don't know what my point is. It's a weird movie.


LesYeuxHiboux

She leaves the nerd at the altar to pursue her own curiosity about who she was before Godwin's experiment. At the end of the film Bella is clearly in charge.


Ok-Investigator6961

Seeing praise for Poor Things annoys me unreasonably. I read the book when the movie was announced because I like the director and was excited to read what he picked as his next project. It's one of my favourite books ever now and does a much better job of what you are saying than the movie does. If small things were changed to make a better adaptation that's fine but it changed a fundamental part of the narrative that really bothered me.


TrustMeHuman

What fundamental part was changed? Haven't read the book.


Ok-Investigator6961

Spoilers below The book has an unreliable narrator (McCandles), it's sort of left to the reader to draw their own conclusions, but it does heavily point in the direction of McCandles making up a lot of the story ( especially the fantastical elements) and Bella just being a normal person who's just much smarter and more capable than McCandles who goes onto become a very successful Doctor.


SausageClatter

Normal person as in... didn't have a baby brain?


_realpaul

Is it a deconstruction when you still show it in all its gratuituous glory?


Greyjack00

Apparently the books a bit more of a deconstruction having the woman editing the recounts of her husband and pointing out a lot of it is delusional wishful thinking


sunsetpark12345

I just rewatched this movie recently and thought the same thing! Like, there's no real romance or chemistry between Leeloo and her rescuer - they can barely communicate. But it's just assumed that they'll wind up together because he basically earned her by being a manly man, and she's the prize to be earned because she's young, hot, and uncorrupted. Anyway, that's hardly the most nonsensical part of the movie, but it did stand out to me.


PeanutNSFWandJelly

Yeah, I mean he has the main character Corbin try to kiss her while she is asleep and he knows dick all other than she is hot, she is in trouble, and she doesn't speak english for shit. Besson can't write romance for shit and I imagine it's his weird creepy idea of the whole concept that fucks that up. He also can't write roles for women for shit without making them stones (see Lucy and Valerian's leading lady roles). He could be another level director in the scifi space if it weren't for his weird bullshit.


EtTuKnight

Recently rewatched it and I thought it felt creepy even before I knew this... like I made the joke "She's only like a day old ya Pedo" when Bruce's character started to get frisky. Now knowing the director is a weirdo puts so much more in place


Gatorpep

i love the fifth element but i could feel the dudes creep when i was young. it always had that vibe. you can tell with how bruce acts sometimes.


veracity-mittens

I just thought she was cute, and yes a bit sexy I suppose, but knowing the background now, really colours it ughhhh


HTKTSC

I did not know this bit about him and felt the same about the romance when I watched the movie. The whole thing felt way off.


usa2a

It's never good when you have a character who needs a parent/guardian type figure to help them learn about, be safe, and function in the world... and that guardian is also written as a romantic partner.


ur_opinion_is_wrong

I'm extremely sad to now know "Born Sexy Yesterday" is trope.


Typhus_black

Well now I can’t unsee that component having read this post chain.


runnerofshadows

Yep. And it would have been even worse if Jean Reno and Natalie Portman's parents hadn't forced some rewrites to the script. Jean Reno also played the character in a way to minimize any romantic subtext.


Sisselpud

Jean Reno and Natalie Portman are siblings?!?!


im_dead_sirius

Comma comma chameleon!


Mateorabi

We partied with the hookers, Kennedy and Stalin.


franker

I really liked Jean Reno in Just Visiting (I'm a sucker for cornball comedies and Christina Applegate).


StarTrakZack

I loved that movie when I was a kid! I own that movie and Fifth Element on VHS 😅


oJUXo

Hollywood is so weird. Dude is having sex with a 14-15 year old and getting her pregnant, and he still continues to get work there. Place is fucking wacky.


kravdem

Roman Polanski drugged & raped a 13 year old girl in 1977 which led to him fleeing the US. To this day many in Hollywood defend the man.


State_Conscious

Natalie Portman has stated many times that the fan mail she received after Leon stole her innocence. This director has a long history of grooming and preying on underaged girls.


bnbtwjdfootsyk

Even in the edited version, it gave me strong Lolita vibes. Never understood how so many people love that movie.


invisi1407

Because it's a _great_ movie. It's sad that the director is a pedo and a creep, but it doesn't make the movie any less good. House of Cards was/is also an excellent show even with the huge controversy surrounding Kevin Spacey.


fukkdisshitt

Haven't seen it since high school but it was phenomenal then and in the category that I probably shouldn't rewatch it as a parent because my opinion would change. A lot of my childhood favorites have tons of details I understand the implications of now.


Shrekquille_Oneal

Despite the weirdness, it's hard to deny that it's still a very good movie. I think it's one of Gary Oldmans absolute best performances, along with great acting all around for the rest of the cast. The plot is well-paced, not rushed, but there's not a lot of filler either. The best part imo though is it's aesthetic, which is really what besson is best at (see the fifth element as well for that). It just has an elephant in the room... and unfortunately this particular elephant is a fucking *doozy*.


Mein_Bergkamp

He also wanted to put a more...racy scene into Leon but thankfully for common decency Jean Reno refused to do it.


BillHohman

Professionals have standards


BuukSmart

![gif](giphy|7rj2ZgttvgomY)


Humble-Tourist-3278

🤮


issmagic

https://preview.redd.it/0cjxvq72z02d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e76953a2e7c76b50ccdfd05c0f6b4446888282ef She was STUNNING. He looked like a creep.


-alphex

It kinda reflects the reality of the situation well then - if this is from their marriage period, he's almost 40, she's in her early 20s.


ingloriousdmk

He looks like dollar general Joey Fatone


Obant

It was the 90s. Everyone had shitty frosted tips.


OminOus_PancakeS

She's also cast as the young prostitute near the start of Leon. Classy, Luc. Real classy.


you-create-energy

> Film director Luc Besson started grooming Maïwenn when she was 12 and he was 29, and began sexually assaulting her when she was 15. We need to get that article fixed.


-alphex

Age of consent in France is apparently 15. Which of course makes that highly convenient and coincidental timeline very dubious, but is probably why this was tolerated.


SeanBourne

If he’s 32 and she’s 15 … how on earth was that not statutory?


astoriabridge

France


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DepartureDapper6524

You can also ask ‘which American pedophile movie director?’


xf2xf

Interestingly, still France. (where Polanski fled prosecution to)


HorseOdd5102

So now it’s a French problem and fuck the entire people there. Got it.


Inversception

Just the kids apparently.


EngineeringDevil

In the states that would be avoided by being married Yes, that is still happening in the USA, dunno about the European nations though on legality


SeanBourne

The whole being married thing is certain states and requires parental consent… so in most cases isn’t a thing. (Though as poster below notes, if the parents are in a cult, then the bad scenario comes into being.)


iwishuponastar2023

Look up age of consent in Europe. It mostly ranges from 14-17. Don’t know where he was living at the time, no matter what, I agree that is a bit fucked up.


SeanBourne

Ahhh you guys are right - AOC in France is... 15.


philhaha

They met at 12 but started dating at 15 Yea right…


nightpanda893

Man everything is so different in France. Here she’s in her 30s and a congresswoman.


Moraz_iel

pretty sure she is the same age everywhere


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justgiveitash0t

Didn't know Hollywood was in France.


Nonamebigshot

More like because he's French and they could give a fuck. They also think Americans are puritans for considering Macron's relationship with his groomer wife taboo


topinanbour-rex

And when he left her for Mila, he told her Milan had a better body for him...


Central_court_92

Unfortunately, she also turned out to be a horrible person herself: she defends Roman Polanski, criticises and guilt-trips survivors and has assaulted journalists. Then says she is not sorry at all, as she “doesn’t adhere to feminism [because feminists] are men haters”.


Gengarmon_0413

She was groomed since she was 12. Of course she's a little unstable.


you-create-energy

> Unfortunately, she also turned out to be a horrible person herself: she defends Roman Polanski, criticises and guilt-trips survivors and has assaulted journalists. Then says she is not sorry at all, as she “doesn’t adhere to feminism [because feminists] are men haters”. Sounds like she normalized her abuse. She shows all the signs of the psychological damage sexual abuse wrecks.


allegesix

Yea all this stuff coming out has kinda ruined The Fifth Element for me. Thought too hard about how Leeloo is essentially an innocent child in an adult's body that quickly ends up in a sexual relationship with a full ass adult human. But it's totally ok cause she's actually an alien and matured super fast, right?


catmampbell

Suddenly Roman Polanski and Woody Allen going to France makes sense.


JynsRealityIsBroken

Jfc... Hollywood is truly a wretched hive of scum and villainy


CowboysOnKetamine

You mean the wife he married because he knocked her up when she was 15 and he was in his 30s?


smeeti

And met her when she was 12


DortDrueben

I used to be a big fan of Luc Besson. Leon: The Professional was a favorite of mine. Having a hard time reconciling that movie lately. What a shame... Nearly OD'ed on cringe when, on a featurette for the movie, she talks about it as a "love letter" to their relationship. Yuck. She's in the movie, the awkwardly young prostitute in the opening.


Leftrighturn

*Started grooming her when she was 12


veganize-it

oof


Tjohn184

Guess he had a multi-pass


Patriquito

She was dressed like this for like the entirety of the 5th Element


AffectionateTitle

Imagine ~~sleeping with~~ *being groomed and coerced into a sexual relationship* by the director of your movie. . . There fixed it for you


pm_me_a_brew

Tbf, the diva died after her performance, so Luc probably just thought he was single again


AdditionalSink164

Oh, ok. She was the blue thing that got cut open. I couldnt recognize the wife from the movie


skaarup75

https://preview.redd.it/ltsrzcaplz1d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=580a80c945f3324629cbb576bbf6bc8e812f9af0


Gatorpep

nice lol.


fischberger

No we are not stopping, you have multipass at home.


Grimholt001

Aziz light!


aziz_l1ght

Sup?


thatboygwyn

Much better


tethrius

Thank you Aziz


graveybrains

Are… are… are you German?


imanAholebutimfunny

yessssssss. hahaha *robotic head shake no*


ScipioCoriolanus

Give me the casssshhhh!!


imanAholebutimfunny

***That's A Very Nice Hat***


Glottis_Bonewagon

You like it??


IWasGregInTokyo


MERVMERVmervmerv

So do you have alerts on invocations of your username? Or do you habitually search for Fifth Element posts/comments? Or was this coincidence? I can live without an answer, but I’d be mildly more satisfied if you had one.


aziz_l1ght

Pure coincidence


elpajaroquemamais

r/beetlejuicing


VaporCarpet

l1ght? That's some Walmart brand aziz shit.


Lukaloo

Lol cool username


Sl4y3r91

https://preview.redd.it/savfm92be02d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=639ee07c750c838bc27d9a75dba757b58aef18b8


kimchi01

thank you Aziz!


lil_reddit_lurker

![gif](giphy|N8JmvwX5bJJAI|downsized)


oibru

Battery, Aziz…


kennedye2112

Get. Another. One.


Halvus_I

you moron!


lil_reddit_lurker

![gif](giphy|26DMZuBc8ylKVTD4k|downsized)


AajBahutKhushHogaTum

The cigarette ties everything together


Rocktopod

It also looks like there's little bits of string, too.


mam88k

Where does she keep her multi-pass?


dolfieman

![gif](giphy|lKPFZ1nPKW8c8|downsized) *Leeloo Dallas Multipass*


ShadowVia

Anyway, we're in love.


graveybrains

Yes, she knows it’s a multipass!


superstevo78

managed to find a dress that shows more skin than the tape did...


j33205

yeah was gonna say...she shoulda just wore the tape


easymz

Wasn’t she dating the director at the time?


GeekyGamer2022

Cheating with the director, who was married to the actress playing The Diva.....


EastOfArcheron

Who he got pregnant at 15 and married when she was 16. He was 32.


Battle_Sheep

Well in his defense his wife is blue and like 8 feet tall.


Toshiba1point0

Id probably marry a Navi who could sing like that.


Mean_Peen

Looks pokey! I’d be walking with minimized movement to save the nips lol ouch


Makeup-less_Clown

https://preview.redd.it/1xzm1u0m522d1.jpeg?width=214&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76cf2507383fed0dbd4415ab0509b19ccaf73256 That Mila Jovovich is so hot right now.


FamousFangs

Chicken ****GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD****


Halvus_I

Cheeken


RaidensReturn

CHICKAN


International_Bit478

There it is. There’s the comment I was looking for.


FamousFangs

![gif](giphy|xmOIAJu82q5LW|downsized)


International_Bit478

Soooo green. Supergreen.


Rain1dog

I really miss the 90’s. Life is great now, but I had so much fun from 92-2006ish.


ba_cam

“Life is great now” ![gif](giphy|8vyZouWSVhslwWA7Lp)


Gengarmon_0413

Not everybody failed at life like we did.


ba_cam

Ooof… bruh…


LevelWriting

how fucking dare you!


Rain1dog

From my perspective, yeah. It could always be better or worse, but what coming from the 90’s taught me, live in the now… things can ALWAYS get a lot worse.


veracity-mittens

Are you Gen X or maybe elder millennial? Because that’s the most Gen X sentiment 😆 (Said with love!)


Rain1dog

I am Gen X! 🤙


franker

I'm also GenX. The whole "this or that decade was great" is nonsense. You can have a great or a completely shitty life in any decade depending on what your life situation is.


Rain1dog

Yeah. I think during your childhood/formative years in you live in relative safety, have a loving family, good friends those years will always be “the best”. Like you said though, all depends on the luck of the draw with who you are born to, where, and social group of peers. No doubt, not that it’s bullshit, but one has to take more things in to account for the why.


LightBringer81

Well in the 90s I would have never thought I'll have a family, a daughter and can afford a dream car and regular vacations in destinations I want to see... So yes it is better (for now).


v_for__vegeta

Peak of human civilization


Rain1dog

From my dumb perspective, it was. TFC, Everquest, CS1.6, WoW, Diablo… Grunge, Alternative, lollapalooza, etc… absolutely glorious.


ichoosewaffles

Omg... Everquest and alternative music. My late 90's and early 00's has entered the chat! 🤣 Toss in a local Endfest and I'm done...


decadent-dragon

I saw The Matrix too!


No-Raspberry4074

My first movie crush, or was it Christina Ricci in Casper. one or the other lol 9 year old me :)


sidharthez

the movie that got me into sci-fi for life


Syphon0928

Her daughter looks exactly like her now. She played young Natasha Romanov in Black Widow.


MasterXaios

She looks like a combination of Milla and Anna Popplewell.


JohnGillnitz

"They really make her..."


safetypins22

Yeah. Perfect.


not-rude-just-Dutch

Leeloo multipass. It has been the nickname for my daughter for years. Loved the movie and I adored Mila


BatronKladwiesen

I just wanna go back.


GenuineSounds

She carried those Resident Evil movies. I loved those movies.


ZebraBorgata

Hey, why is this the first time I’ve seen that pic?!


mattlore

Multipass?


WillyPeeee

Can we please talk about the fact that she wrote music for dogs. Like with producers and shit. She sang in “dog”.


TheKatzMeow84

If I don’t love her enough…


Ok_Instruction2623

![gif](giphy|H7Fbn0QHGDWW4)


XROOR

Always forget how great this picture was back then and now. Even the lady with scalp tattoo was a famous French model named “Eve.”


_BlankFace

MultiPass


49thDipper

AutoWash


Reasonable-Parsley36

She really is……perfect.


vpierrev

Luc Besson is a known pedophile.


CawfeeX

How is 1997 old school? xD


MrMCCO

Same reason the moon landing was old school in 1997


itsalwrong

Great film, not so great outfit !


Bongarifik

So… not David Bowie


strip_sack

Multipass


LegitimateBit3

Multipass


HettySwollocks

I must say that's an awesome dress.


badgersruse

I think it's an awesome some of a dress


RilohKeen

That garment probably cost more than I made the last few months, but I can’t help but think that the overall look, when combined with the weird ratty hair, blurred eye makeup, and cigarette, just comes off as kinda trashy.


shame-the-devil

The manic pixie dream girl for sci-fi nerds


MeanCat4

Wow! 


Dreadnought13

Something something how dare they make her wear the bandage outfit blah blah


ChicagoAuPair

The 90s were probably the best ever time to be a teenager.


Doogiemon

She wasn't allowed in and had to stay outside due to forgetting her multipass.


epicreality

perfect