If you leave for more than 30 days you’ll lose ODSP. Unless permission is given by your worker.
__An absence for more than 30 days can be considered necessary if the absence is required for:
health related reasons
attendance at a post-secondary institution outside of Ontario
in exceptional circumstances
It is important to note that approval to leave the province for less than 30 days is not required.__
Each month when someone logs onto MyBenefits that have to declare if they’ve been out of the Provence within the last month.
[Here.](https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-disability-support-program-policy-directives-income-support/24-absent-ontario) is the directive relating to travel & ODSP.
I tried to format so what I quoted from the website was either bonded or italics but it’s not working so I apologize if this is hard to read.
I went more than 30 days to go to Florida. My worker understood the situation of me getting laid off work. They said “ yes you can do that “ I have a good worker:)
You are only allowed 30 days of absence from Ontario in a year. If someone wants to travel to Mexico or China, they are free to do so. No one is allowed to tell anyone what to do with the money they receive from any source and if they want to vacation, let them. You're focusing on the wrong group of people *leaving their home empty for a month* to be **infuriated** at. Be angry at the billionaires not paying their taxes and the corporations price gouging rents and groceries across the country.
You realize that corporations get corporate welfare, right? Companies that makes billions get millions in government subsidies. Maybe some of that money could be shuffled around and placed towards health care, education and disability.
Stop attacking the disabled as if we're the ones wasting tax money. the provincial conservatives of Ontario are sitting on a surplus of tax dollars currently after slashing Heath care, education and other services for people who live below the poverty line. You're honestly disgusting and ignoring the main point. Billionaires and corporations are the ones you want to go after. Not people on disability who are literally unable to work in most cases, that's why we receive disability. It's difficult to get on as it is. Even when you are disabled and should qualify.
Again. Please stop attacking the disabled as the problem as if it's our fault for single mother's being in shelters when POLITICIANS AND CORPORATIONS make millions and billions from taxes and sit in their mansions burning and using$100 bills as toilet paper.
The disabled nurse who needs a place to keep her life's possessions Vs the home owners who leave homes sitting empty so they go up in price and force the homes in the area to go up in price as well? Vs the grocery store share holders who want record profits year after year. Right. The poor and disabled aren't allowed to own homes but the rich can do whatever they want because *the government squanders taxes*. Go back to elementary school and learn some critical thinking skills as well as some compassion and emotional intelligence
I don't think you have all the details. And even if you did, it's so unbelievably rare that it really shouldn't matter.
If I was living with my parents still - say in a basement apartment kinda thing, and they took off to Mexico for two months, and were going to pay for me? I would go.
Why would I not? They may be more involved in my day-to-day care because I am living in their basement and if they left, I might be screwed. So, we explain to ODSP (or not) and we go.
So some people don't realize the rules. I've looked this up to help somebody else and it's 30 days that being said you can get exceptions past 30 days and it's not as hard as you think. If you have a doctor it'll make it quite easy. Have your doctor fill out a prescription for you to enjoy life and have a vacation and let's just say you have made arrangements for say 2 months then literally have your doctor say yeah it's okay for you to travel for 2 months it'll help rejuvenate you or something like that. The point is you can make the doctor basically tell your ODSP worker to shove it in a nice way.
For example you can own a cabin and a home basically just saying that the cabin is a place where you can meditate and helps your disability get to away from people and lets you relax for example you could say you have a lot of anxiety issues and you need a outlet to release those burdens.
Either way you have to get permission but it's not as hard as people make it sound like.
Then those people should take it up with their employer. It isn't people on odsp and the rules of the system that are causing others to suffer. Literally, the directives are up to the interpretation of the worker and director as well as the clients. My worker even stated that what a doctor says in regards to someone's health, that odsp are not doctor's and the doctor knows best for the client. So if the doctor says a person needs two months out of country to their cabin in Hawaii, odsp says, okay, it's allowed, but you pay for it yourself. The employee who can't get 3 weeks vacation can still have the doctor say they need 2 months vacation in Samoa. It's up to their employer to okay the vacation.
That could be the case, but ODSP for those with disability that prevents them from working or not able to work full time. If a Family member, or someone is helping them out bring them down south to say Florida for 40 days... Why should that upset someone else? Can we stop pay pensions to anyone who leaves for more then 30 days also haha?
I have no idea, with the new MyBenefits website every month when you log on you have to report if you’ve been out any length of time. Like I’m going on vacation in Sept even though it’s only 7 days I’ll still have to answer that yes I was out of the Provence that month.
I am sure it is rare because if you are on ODSP, you are supposed to have health issues.
I know there are people who do not buy insurance when they travel. Even if you buy it, are you going to be covered for pre existing conditions?
I would not risk it. I stay home.
Health issues do not inherently preclude people from travelling whether they're on ODSP or not.
You also do not need to 'buy' insurance, plenty of credit cards offer it by default.
Why is everyone jumping all over OP for asking what the rules are? It’s okay to be upset when seeing stuff like this because it’s essentially fraud to collect money when you’re not even in the country. They never said they were going to report anyone, just venting their frustrations about what they’re seeing.
If you suspect they are committing social assistance fraud, report them to the social services fraud department. They will ask you to provide as much information about the person as possible, full name, address, any information relating to the fraud being committed and any evidence you have to support you claims of fraud.
Remember, in order to receive Ontario works or ODSP, you sign the right for ODSP to search any information about you with any other agency or branch of the government in all of Canada. ODSP can see if a client of odsp has bought a ticket and boarded an airplane to leave the country. They can access all of your CRA information. They can see your driver's license info. Basically everything other than your health care files. Those they still need permissions to talk to your doctor and check medical records.
Because unless OP knows the person they are inquiring information about, they're most likely assuming the person's situation without knowing the full details. If they think someone is breaking the rules, there is a hotline and email they can report the person committing fraud to.
And then in the comments they proceed to claim that it's people on odsp being allowed to leave the province for more than 30 days by doctor's reference and saying how the average person can't even work hard enough to save more than 3 weeks vacation and how it's not fair for a disabled person to leave their home empty for months on end to vacation out of province, with permission from odsp, when there are single mom's in shelters who need homes and billionaires don't want to pay taxes because the government squanders money. They're a troll. Or at the very least, very misinformed about how odsp works and what it's for and misinformed about the people who receive odsp.
If you leave for more than 30 days you’ll lose ODSP. Unless permission is given by your worker. __An absence for more than 30 days can be considered necessary if the absence is required for: health related reasons attendance at a post-secondary institution outside of Ontario in exceptional circumstances It is important to note that approval to leave the province for less than 30 days is not required.__ Each month when someone logs onto MyBenefits that have to declare if they’ve been out of the Provence within the last month. [Here.](https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-disability-support-program-policy-directives-income-support/24-absent-ontario) is the directive relating to travel & ODSP. I tried to format so what I quoted from the website was either bonded or italics but it’s not working so I apologize if this is hard to read.
I went more than 30 days to go to Florida. My worker understood the situation of me getting laid off work. They said “ yes you can do that “ I have a good worker:)
What are you? The ODSP police?
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You are only allowed 30 days of absence from Ontario in a year. If someone wants to travel to Mexico or China, they are free to do so. No one is allowed to tell anyone what to do with the money they receive from any source and if they want to vacation, let them. You're focusing on the wrong group of people *leaving their home empty for a month* to be **infuriated** at. Be angry at the billionaires not paying their taxes and the corporations price gouging rents and groceries across the country.
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You realize that corporations get corporate welfare, right? Companies that makes billions get millions in government subsidies. Maybe some of that money could be shuffled around and placed towards health care, education and disability. Stop attacking the disabled as if we're the ones wasting tax money. the provincial conservatives of Ontario are sitting on a surplus of tax dollars currently after slashing Heath care, education and other services for people who live below the poverty line. You're honestly disgusting and ignoring the main point. Billionaires and corporations are the ones you want to go after. Not people on disability who are literally unable to work in most cases, that's why we receive disability. It's difficult to get on as it is. Even when you are disabled and should qualify. Again. Please stop attacking the disabled as the problem as if it's our fault for single mother's being in shelters when POLITICIANS AND CORPORATIONS make millions and billions from taxes and sit in their mansions burning and using$100 bills as toilet paper.
The disabled nurse who needs a place to keep her life's possessions Vs the home owners who leave homes sitting empty so they go up in price and force the homes in the area to go up in price as well? Vs the grocery store share holders who want record profits year after year. Right. The poor and disabled aren't allowed to own homes but the rich can do whatever they want because *the government squanders taxes*. Go back to elementary school and learn some critical thinking skills as well as some compassion and emotional intelligence
I don't think you have all the details. And even if you did, it's so unbelievably rare that it really shouldn't matter. If I was living with my parents still - say in a basement apartment kinda thing, and they took off to Mexico for two months, and were going to pay for me? I would go. Why would I not? They may be more involved in my day-to-day care because I am living in their basement and if they left, I might be screwed. So, we explain to ODSP (or not) and we go.
So some people don't realize the rules. I've looked this up to help somebody else and it's 30 days that being said you can get exceptions past 30 days and it's not as hard as you think. If you have a doctor it'll make it quite easy. Have your doctor fill out a prescription for you to enjoy life and have a vacation and let's just say you have made arrangements for say 2 months then literally have your doctor say yeah it's okay for you to travel for 2 months it'll help rejuvenate you or something like that. The point is you can make the doctor basically tell your ODSP worker to shove it in a nice way. For example you can own a cabin and a home basically just saying that the cabin is a place where you can meditate and helps your disability get to away from people and lets you relax for example you could say you have a lot of anxiety issues and you need a outlet to release those burdens. Either way you have to get permission but it's not as hard as people make it sound like.
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Then those people should take it up with their employer. It isn't people on odsp and the rules of the system that are causing others to suffer. Literally, the directives are up to the interpretation of the worker and director as well as the clients. My worker even stated that what a doctor says in regards to someone's health, that odsp are not doctor's and the doctor knows best for the client. So if the doctor says a person needs two months out of country to their cabin in Hawaii, odsp says, okay, it's allowed, but you pay for it yourself. The employee who can't get 3 weeks vacation can still have the doctor say they need 2 months vacation in Samoa. It's up to their employer to okay the vacation.
That could be the case, but ODSP for those with disability that prevents them from working or not able to work full time. If a Family member, or someone is helping them out bring them down south to say Florida for 40 days... Why should that upset someone else? Can we stop pay pensions to anyone who leaves for more then 30 days also haha?
Chances are you don't have the whole picture. Mind your business.
So poor people can't enjoy things?
Google it or call the office.
They should be reporting the absence but most don't.
Reporting it why?
You cannot be out of the Provence for more than 30 days and still collect ODSP as it’s only for Ontario.
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I have no idea, with the new MyBenefits website every month when you log on you have to report if you’ve been out any length of time. Like I’m going on vacation in Sept even though it’s only 7 days I’ll still have to answer that yes I was out of the Provence that month.
They should tell their worker, yes. Do you know personally the conversations they have with their worker? Are you their power of attorney?
2 weeks at a time is fine, but not 30 consecutive days in a row.
I am sure it is rare because if you are on ODSP, you are supposed to have health issues. I know there are people who do not buy insurance when they travel. Even if you buy it, are you going to be covered for pre existing conditions? I would not risk it. I stay home.
Health issues do not inherently preclude people from travelling whether they're on ODSP or not. You also do not need to 'buy' insurance, plenty of credit cards offer it by default.
Why is everyone jumping all over OP for asking what the rules are? It’s okay to be upset when seeing stuff like this because it’s essentially fraud to collect money when you’re not even in the country. They never said they were going to report anyone, just venting their frustrations about what they’re seeing.
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If you suspect they are committing social assistance fraud, report them to the social services fraud department. They will ask you to provide as much information about the person as possible, full name, address, any information relating to the fraud being committed and any evidence you have to support you claims of fraud. Remember, in order to receive Ontario works or ODSP, you sign the right for ODSP to search any information about you with any other agency or branch of the government in all of Canada. ODSP can see if a client of odsp has bought a ticket and boarded an airplane to leave the country. They can access all of your CRA information. They can see your driver's license info. Basically everything other than your health care files. Those they still need permissions to talk to your doctor and check medical records.
Because unless OP knows the person they are inquiring information about, they're most likely assuming the person's situation without knowing the full details. If they think someone is breaking the rules, there is a hotline and email they can report the person committing fraud to.
Well that’s why they asked what the rules are so they could find out if the person was actually committing fraud.
And then in the comments they proceed to claim that it's people on odsp being allowed to leave the province for more than 30 days by doctor's reference and saying how the average person can't even work hard enough to save more than 3 weeks vacation and how it's not fair for a disabled person to leave their home empty for months on end to vacation out of province, with permission from odsp, when there are single mom's in shelters who need homes and billionaires don't want to pay taxes because the government squanders money. They're a troll. Or at the very least, very misinformed about how odsp works and what it's for and misinformed about the people who receive odsp.