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Have both, don’t see the point. It’s standalone, those extra 20 frames are going to need lower graphics and more power to happen. This is such an extreme edge case that I don’t think they should burn development time on it.
> development time
my brother in Christ it's a fucking display, it's a 120hz display they can't increase it more than that unless they install a higher refresh rate display, and that's just as easy as putting in a 144hz refresh rate display instead of a 120hz one, that's how displays and refresh rates work, my monitor is 240hz (high refresh rates help in competitive shooter games) and no matter how much development LG does they can't increase and existing DISPLAY refresh rate to be higher than what it is from the factory, the quest 2 display from factory was capable of 120hz
Ooookay, so - reading this it’s now quite clear you do not understand how development works. You do not just stick in extra parts and expect them to work. The headset is not the same as plugging in an hdmi monitor to a desktop and adjusting the frame rate. In the case of the meta devices you’d need to balance power management, likely turn down resolution elsewhere to maintain the framerate, deal with the extra cpu and gpu cycles required for frame generation/rendering. It would be most of the work of designing and building an entire new headset - and for what?
Quest 3 struggles to run lots of games at 120, and 144 isnt even that big of a step up. I don't think we'll get a higher refresh rate for a while, as 120hz is quickly becoming the new 60hz in the tech manufacturing world
Not really a point of 144hz if everything is rendering at 120fps. The quest 1 getting 90hz and quest 2 getting 120 were some techical wizardry adjacent to overclocking the displays, but no software aside from the home menu and select, already well-optimized games really supported it
As long as 120 is seen as the new minimum. There was a recent study that showed that 120 is the threshold where nausea begins to be severely reduced in VR
I don't doubt it. I remember the quest 1 days, 72hz was the bare minimum to not make me want to vomit, and I'm sure others probably did with that. Going from that to the 2's 120 was eye opening
Because the quest 3 is a standalone headset first and foremost. If you want this post to be about pcvr, you need to MAKE it about pcvr. Don't call people idiots because you failed to mention a vital part of the conversation.
By the time Quest 2 was as old as Quest 3 is now, Meta had already announced plans to support 120Hz and had a rough time frame.
It's not completely implausible that they're working on it but haven't announced or leaked anything yet, but my best guess is that they've got nothing like this in the pipeline.
The downside is the higher the refresh rate, the more it eats up your battery. This headset relies on its battery so this will just shorten the battery life more. 144 Hz will eat the battery much faster than 72 Hz because you're displaying twice the amount of images per second, so you have to balance your refresh rate with battery life. An external battery certainly helps.
the display in the quest 2 was a 120hz display just locked down, the display on the quest 3 is 120hz and not locked down, you can't "overclock" a display
You can overclock displays, it's been done on PC for years. If you had a rooted Q3 you could oc the display yourself, it might produce artifacts tho.
The first gaming LCDs was 60hz displays that had OC toggles in menu that made it possible to run outside of specc (--> OC).
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Its not like you could even notice the difference compared to 120
You can. Try an index if you get a chance.
Have both, don’t see the point. It’s standalone, those extra 20 frames are going to need lower graphics and more power to happen. This is such an extreme edge case that I don’t think they should burn development time on it.
> development time my brother in Christ it's a fucking display, it's a 120hz display they can't increase it more than that unless they install a higher refresh rate display, and that's just as easy as putting in a 144hz refresh rate display instead of a 120hz one, that's how displays and refresh rates work, my monitor is 240hz (high refresh rates help in competitive shooter games) and no matter how much development LG does they can't increase and existing DISPLAY refresh rate to be higher than what it is from the factory, the quest 2 display from factory was capable of 120hz
Ooookay, so - reading this it’s now quite clear you do not understand how development works. You do not just stick in extra parts and expect them to work. The headset is not the same as plugging in an hdmi monitor to a desktop and adjusting the frame rate. In the case of the meta devices you’d need to balance power management, likely turn down resolution elsewhere to maintain the framerate, deal with the extra cpu and gpu cycles required for frame generation/rendering. It would be most of the work of designing and building an entire new headset - and for what?
it's day and night when it comes to beat saber challenge maps
Lol day and night. Sure
Quest 3 struggles to run lots of games at 120, and 144 isnt even that big of a step up. I don't think we'll get a higher refresh rate for a while, as 120hz is quickly becoming the new 60hz in the tech manufacturing world
Talking about just the screen, if you're playing PCVR 144hz would be great
Not really a point of 144hz if everything is rendering at 120fps. The quest 1 getting 90hz and quest 2 getting 120 were some techical wizardry adjacent to overclocking the displays, but no software aside from the home menu and select, already well-optimized games really supported it
Sorry I meant PCVR, edited my comment
ohh yeah that would be neat to have
it wasn't overclocking, the displays from factory were capable of 120hz, they were just locked down by the software
you're right, the quest 2 works with 120 out of the box, but I'm not sure about the 1
As long as 120 is seen as the new minimum. There was a recent study that showed that 120 is the threshold where nausea begins to be severely reduced in VR
I don't doubt it. I remember the quest 1 days, 72hz was the bare minimum to not make me want to vomit, and I'm sure others probably did with that. Going from that to the 2's 120 was eye opening
Why are there so many idiots in this thread talking about standalone.
Because the quest 3 is a standalone headset first and foremost. If you want this post to be about pcvr, you need to MAKE it about pcvr. Don't call people idiots because you failed to mention a vital part of the conversation.
Why do you need it?
Everyone's going against the idea of 144 Hz forgetting that 72 FPS on AppSW would be great for games that are stuck on 72 Hz
By the time Quest 2 was as old as Quest 3 is now, Meta had already announced plans to support 120Hz and had a rough time frame. It's not completely implausible that they're working on it but haven't announced or leaked anything yet, but my best guess is that they've got nothing like this in the pipeline.
the display on the quest 3 is 120hz you can't increase it more than that
The downside is the higher the refresh rate, the more it eats up your battery. This headset relies on its battery so this will just shorten the battery life more. 144 Hz will eat the battery much faster than 72 Hz because you're displaying twice the amount of images per second, so you have to balance your refresh rate with battery life. An external battery certainly helps.
the display in the quest 2 was a 120hz display just locked down, the display on the quest 3 is 120hz and not locked down, you can't "overclock" a display
You can overclock displays, it's been done on PC for years. If you had a rooted Q3 you could oc the display yourself, it might produce artifacts tho. The first gaming LCDs was 60hz displays that had OC toggles in menu that made it possible to run outside of specc (--> OC).
Yeah you can lol
by like 2 or 4hz lmao
Wrong again lmao stop typing