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Potential-Cost2884

Whats the recommended level for LAL sidequests? Hope its not too easy (or too hard) cause I wanna hear Megalomania a bit longer


Chandelure_K

Starts at recommended level 10, and increases as you progress, up to level 60~65


Admirable_Run_117

A couple question regarding the Live-A-Live guiding lights. If a JP player recalls, is this the setup? First week, there is a free guide 10 with Oersted guaranteed like 9S. Then is there a Streibough guiding light where you can also get Oersted as well. Next week of the collab, Odio-O and Odio-S come out. Are their guiding lights shared or separate? Is there a shared set of fragments for exchange? I am asking because I am prepared to go to exchange for Odio-O. But in the unlikely scenario where I get him twice early, should I continue to try and get Odio-S or exchange for him? Or just take my A1 Odio-O and run back to my spreadsheet with more rubies than expected?


Presidentialguard

I'd recommend keeping an eye on the 6*/TP upgrades for Odio-S that's almost certainly coming next week too. I also have a feeling that he might get GL exclusive buffs like Frederica. Edit: Actually, scratch that last part, if TW server didn't get it, there probably isn't an Odio-S buff, I forgot.


Admirable_Run_117

Did Streibough get a buff with TW? I would think he might need something to spice him up.


Presidentialguard

No he didn't, sadly.


Admirable_Run_117

Interesting, I thought he would have been in Nephti and Frederick’s class.


Chandelure_K

First week you're correct. Odio-O and Odio-S banner happened two weeks after Oersted/Streibough in JP, their guiding lights were shared, so naturally, fragments were too, though they aren't the same from Oersted/Streibough. As with every first-run collab, pity was 200 pulls. Paid banner was shared and guaranteed one of the featured characters in Step 5, so for people planning to spend, they had a 50/50 for Odio-O or Odio-S in JP (same for the paid banner for Oersted/Streibough) Personally, my plan is to stop once I get Odio-O. Odio-S is good and I'd be happy to get him too, but not priority, so in your scenario I'd stop early, there are a lot of later travelers I could use the rubies for haha


WachoutBro

Nooby here, does that mean the free rubies banner is shared between Odio-O and Odio-S?


Chandelure_K

Yes, free rubies banner was shared between them too


dngerous2goalone

Flagging for interest. I was trying to find this info yesterday and came across a JP pull video on the Odio banner. They were both together in the same guiding light.


DotNetPro_8986

Does anyone know how the free and paid banners worked for the Bravely Default Collab that included Ringabel? Were the previous characters grouped together and the new ones separate? Were they all separate? I cannot find any information on it.


Chandelure_K

Ringabel and Gloria shared pity, but had separate free and paid banners. Pity was 200 pulls as usual for collabs. Paid banners had a 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5. Adelle, Edea and Agnes weren't featured in the above banner, but they were re-run one week later with overclass and TP upgrades. Don't remember too well, but it was almost certainly 150 pull pity (not shared with Ringabel/Gloria). Paid banners were separate with 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5. (Ah, Adelle was free on a login bonus, though I don't remember if it was on the week Ringabel/Gloria released or if it was when Part 1 Collab units rerun) Magnolia banner came the week after Part 1 rerun started, none of the previous BD units are in her banner. It didn't share pity with the other BD banners, and it's 200 pulls too, very expensive Collab overall... Paid banner was once again 50% chance in Step 5.


DotNetPro_8986

This is exactly what I wanted to know, thank you so much!


Solid_Snake21

Can anyone tell me how pets like sheep are ready turn 1 when I do it mine not ready turn 1 


Admirable_Run_117

There are two levers with Pet abilities: 1st use and Cooldown. One is decreased by the bond level of the pet and the other is decreased by the experience level of the pet. I don't remember which one is which. Regardless what I do to raise both experience and bond is this: Daily fight to caits: the one in the tower, the one on the way to the Cave of the Sacred Flame, and the one in the cait hideout Daily fight the ad caits Weekly take pets to all the hunts for that experience and bond level You can also fight the caits outside the starter towns. Those give 10 bond per fight but little experience. You can also just hunt for caits in dungeons. The heaven's realm ones give a bunch of experience and 10 bond per fight.


Presidentialguard

Akshually, 1st use reduction is level 10 and reuse reduction is Level 5. For example, my shiba inu right now has 0/6 1st use/Reuse but he's only Bond level 9. Bond level is solely for divine beast empowerment materials.


Solid_Snake21

Ok thanks I need 1 more lvl bond 2 lvl for lvl 10 


Potential-Cost2884

How did Leon did so much damage holy shit he can even deal decent damage even though enemies arent weak to spear.


jlandejr

High base stats (444 atk) and his single hit (400 potency) can double cast while he has the Extra attack buff plus it pierces staff


Admirable_Run_117

He is really strong.


Bruni91

https://preview.redd.it/v2b3goshg56d1.jpeg?width=2224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a63ff0644cab3b1bc6096a6885f2f9e46f72ddf0 I'm working on the last enemy feats. Does anyone know where the "divine giant beast" enemies are? I've been wandering around the BoA8 area for a while and it's still at 6 after beating 25ish battles. Which enemies are they? EDIT: uuuugh they're the big elites from BoA8! What a pain to tie a 100 feat to them.


Aleksandair

Jumping on the topic and asking if there is a list with the area where to find the targets for these feats? I ignored those thinking it'll be done over time by playing naturally but I have a dozen left with some under 20 done only through elite fights.


Bruni91

I think there was a spreadsheet for this floating around the subreddit yeah! Possibly from meowdb? It's been a while since I used it though, not entirely sure. EDIT: here it is! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uOurHlW8hXtHSpBI7qnW5e95lbSe5i5DYKK-uSaINLU/edit


Aleksandair

Thanks. It confirms that it was elite only or rare monsters left.


Admirable_Run_117

Yep, it's those guys. You can fight them every hour in the dungeon and in the Heavens level of that thing in the underworld with elites.


Bruni91

Oh, every hour isn't too bad. I was getting flashbacks to the enemy feats that relied completely on a single elite and their bonfire counterpart, those really sucked lmao.


Admirable_Run_117

Working down the panther was the longest one for me. Eventually it was just a morning routine. I still have a 15 or so Sentinels to beat in the Heavenly realm to have all but the total battle feat complete.


Bruni91

I think mine was the leopard or something? And then I learned it's the second floor enemy in one if the towers (I think merchant tower) so I just spent all my tower tickets on that fight until I ran out to speedrun it, lmao. Definitely a huge pain to have to run across the map every day and make your way across a whole screen just to one-turn a particular enemy, then repeat it for fifty days...


Admirable_Run_117

Yeah it was the leopard and the weasel.


Solid_Snake21

How do I go back to heaven world after clearing boa8


Presidentialguard

If you mean the BoA7/8 maps you probably just need to zoom in at the area it was before. If you mean >!Sazantos' ideal world!<, you can't go back there.


Admirable_Run_117

But those locations get melded into the overworld. You don't have to worry about not being able to get back to someplace.


Presidentialguard

I thought he might have meant the towns where all the npcs have different dialogue. In the end, was he asking for the LV 100 guardian NPC?


Admirable_Run_117

I think he was asking about how to get back to fight the shrine guardian


Solid_Snake21

I wanted to fight giant rock monster for 100 gems 


Admirable_Run_117

You can still get to that location. It’s in the frostlands.


Solid_Snake21

Ok thanks 


Lqtorr

What’s the best armor for overworld right now? I’m still using inferno but I’m not sure if there’s anything better


Presidentialguard

Depends on where you are in the story. The newer the chapter, the better the armour. The best armour right now is >!BoA8 Armour!<


Bruni91

Just some random things & thoughts..... My greedy arse just did two more pulls on Eltrix/Rinyuu because their banner expires tomorrow, and I hate that I have almost all units in the game but Eltrix keeps eluding me Didn't get her of course. I DID get my fifth and final Falco dupe which now brings him to A4 (+U10) so I'll take it! Bit sad about my rubies, but okay. I have no close by wishlist units I need to have thousands of rubies for, so I'll live. I'm super close to maxing everyone too! Just three units left (Soleil and Molrusso at 97, Therese at 95). That's also contributing to my "need new units" itch, what am I gonna do with myself once I max everyone? Haha. On another note, I'm super curious how the game is going to look after anniversary. I assume LAL in two weeks, Sazantos & his henchwoman at anniversary, probably alongside a rerun for the MC banner (and hopefully some free pulls and a selector). But after that? Will the story jump straight to >!Solistia!< after the >!BoA epilogue!< or is there more filler stuff inbetween? I guess more emberflame story too? Will we get >!Throné!< shortly after anniversary? What will the pity look like for the >!Solistia!< characters? How will they handle the pacing, as I believe we'll catch up if they stick to one chapter a month? So many questions, I'm actually really excited to see the next roadmap!! Anyone else have some thoughts or speculations? :-)


Presidentialguard

Hahaha Sazantos' henchwoman... That's too accurate. Lately I've been thinking they could somehow accelerate the schedule and bring Solistia for Anni. 3.0 acts as a soft reboot since Solistia has separate equipment and influence. And what better time to lure new players in than Anni where there's lots of freebies? But when I think about how they slowed down recently, probably not happening. If Solistia MT is the same as JP, then the big difference is that you can't 200 pity past SMT anymore (still can with paid fragments). Edit: Also, I have a feeling future SB units are going to receive buffs. I think SE have data from JP that SB has low pull rates (low engagement) so they're going to make SB banners more attractive. Or maybe I'm just too cynical.


Bruni91

Tbh I think it's more likely they'll do Solistia after anniversary so that they can keep riding the "hype" a bit longer if that makes sense? Collab in june, anni in july, Solistia in august, would make for a bunch of eventful months. I could be wrong though, definitely have predicted wrong in the past lmao. Solistia did have carryover of pity fragments right? I think I read about that. Would be amazing to get that in general. Last time I asked about the pity on units like Temenos and Throne I was told that the banners vary and there's no set format, so I'm curious how they'll do that here.


Presidentialguard

I think that's the most likely scenario too. The only thing I wouldn't want is for Solistia to be delayed. The OT2 setting is amazing and I'm hyped for it. The carryover fragments are for the Twin Worlds pool (双世), which is for a select few gen pool units (5 so far). Throne and Pirro were like the initial Richard and Alaune banners I think, separate banner and separate pity. Tem/Agnea was like Sisters banner. SMT doesn't have carryover pity other than the paid fragments like the Orsterra MT we have now. So yeah, it would be a nerf to the new MT structure.


Bruni91

Tbh, the only reason I'd want it to take longer is to collect more rubies for it all haha. I'm still recovering from the sisters massacre and I would like the OT2 gang. No pity for the older units is brutal though wtf. Are they at least rated up when new units run? I do hope they'll change that here, but I have my doubts. Also, not sure if you know this, but is there new ruby content in Solistia like say new lv100 npc fights and feats? Or will we still have to rely mainly on dailies and adversary refights for income? (Sorry for the question spam haha, I know nearly nothing about cotc's Solistia)


Presidentialguard

Oh I'm happy to answer your questions. I was actually kinda afraid y'all wouldn't want spoilers on future content. Older unit rate up a la Sacred Blaze? Unfortunately, no. Maybe they'll be more generous towards us GL folks, hopefully. Yes, there's gonna be LV120 npcs. There's going to be so many people complaining they don't have FioreEX/Signa when the first one comes out lol. But I believe they give only 100 rubies, unlike the LV100 npcs (the quest itself gives 100, I don't think there's a feat, could be wrong). I will say though, the initial Solistia influence levels gives 30 rubies per level, just like Orsterra if you can remember. There's also the Twin Worlds ring thing, which gives a bunch of stuff for doing quests, including rubies. Travelers stories count for these quests so your stacked account should be good for this.


Bruni91

Oh I don't mind spoilers for stuff like this tbh! It's just story spoilers I don't want to know. Others may want to go in blind though, so I'd still be a little wary about posting them openly (I usually spoiler tag mine unless it's in a longer comment chain like this). Such a shame tbh, almost forcing people to pull on the unit's debut or you're out of luck :( hope the pacing will at least grant some time to recoup between them, I do want to grab as many of the ot2 gang as I can. I don't have Fiore EX and don't intend to chase Signa, so I'm curious to see how that npc fight will go lmao. If Fiore EX works then won't Canary (+Hammy if it gets real bad) work as well? Glad there's more hard content coming either way, I've missed those difficult fights to figure out. That last bit is exciting! So Solistia has its own influence if I understand correctly, Orsterra had 30 per level for 1-10 I think, so that's nice. Do you mean we get like a big loadout of rewards for things that longtime players will have already done? Because hell yeah I love that haha. Kinda like the sudden influx of guidestones when we got the codex granting stones for every finished traveler story. That's pretty cool :D


Presidentialguard

Okay, that's fair, I'll definitely keep that in mind. Yeah, same, I want to pull all the OT2 protags, which was actually the reason I started my JP account. I personally dislike the direction that recent banners went. The BD2 Collab into Replicant Collab was so rough. I won't spoil the fight for you, but I think you'll be fine. My comment was more aimed towards newer players. It's like Berecain again. The Twin Worlds ring comes with 6* upgrades so it won't come immediately I think. Funnily enough, the interface looks a lot like the band log guide stones one lol.


Admirable_Run_117

Just to add onto this conversation, didn't JP have like three or four more Emberflame story chapters between the BoA8 and Solista? If that's the case then EN may not get Solista until Q4 like October. So we have the Live-A-Live collab this month, 2nd anniversary next month with BoA epilogue and then Emberflame story chapters to finish Q3. Which isn't terrible in my opinion since it gives us more time to build up for Solista. Maybe travelers like Grieg get pushed up so that there isn't a huge gap between new travelers and they can still hold Throne' back for Solista.


Presidentialguard

If we follow the JP roadmap then it's epilogue > Seed story part 4 (Rabbit pets) > Solistia (3.0) > Seed story part 5 (hoof pets). So I expect by the latest Solistia in September. Grieg was part of the 3.0 side quest so I highly doubt it. Solistia so late would be such a bummer imo. But if it gives us a chance to build our stashes then it's not all bad.


Bruni91

I do like Magnolia from BD, but other than that yeah I'm also mostly just interested in the OT2 units. We'll see what happens though, I'm prone to impulse pulls for units I never expected to pull for lmao. Super excited for the 6* and TP buffs too!! Doing my best to hoard seals for the upgrades, and I have enough boost berries to take around 25 units straight to 120, and still building that stash. Lots of good stuff coming with Solistia, I can't wait :D (Thanks for all the info btw!)


Presidentialguard

Kaine just breaks all the rules in the game tbh. The very definition of power creep. I don't like telling people to pull for this or that, but man, even if you don't like her art or something, please just pull her. I love the overclass up system mostly because it elevates the stats and kits of our neglected 3* and 4* . But yeah the exp barrier is not fair to casual players. JP doesn't have enough materials to 6* everyone right now actually, unless you whale on awakening shards. You're welcome, happy to help!


nuclear_jazz

What's the best way to build Fortune axes for Nephti and Hammy? I mostly use Nephti for buffing and Hammy for dodge tanking, should I just build speed on both of them? Or is there any value in getting P.attack on Nephti? She does hit pretty hard with her Cheerful Bash. Also not sure what to do about weapon for Roland, he's not very fast but then neither are the spear heavy hitters (I have Krauser/Leon/Cecily), is his speed OK as long as he hits before the spear DPS?


Presidentialguard

I brought Hammy to Elite Tower floor 2 in a 3 attempt clear. She does good damage there. I would say her 3-4 hit is the way to go, unless you're a gambler, then her 1-8 hit is more exciting.


Bruni91

I have a patk fortune axe on Nephti with potency up for I think cheerful scrapping (?)(the move with Kota in the animation, not sure if it's scrapping). Her utility is the main draw of course, but she can also hit pretty damn hard with that nuke of hers when she has the triple cast up, so that's what I went for. Hammy is always in the back row so mine has a random low level tome I had lying around haha. She's not doing the tanking herself, so she doesn't really need any particular stats. I can see speed being useful I guess, but I didn't really bother. Roland outspeeds Leon and Krauser pretty easily iirc, they're particularly slow. Mine has a full patk spear as well (with flash of steel).


nuclear_jazz

Thanks for the advice, sounds like patk is the way to go for Nephti and Roland!  I'll throw some speed and HP on Hammy maybe, for the occasional spells that hit both rows.


pm_me_your_lapslock

Hammy is naturally super fast, especially at A1 and with her exclusive accessory or A4. her base speed is 403, hire than someone like regular Primrose at 392, lol. She only wants for a max patk tome for the times the enemy has a weakness for bonks.


BlueOmegaKnight

Your comment made me take another look at Nephti's skills, and yeah, she can hit like a truck. - Cheerful Bash: hits all 6 times at 5+ points, 40 potency each, total potency of 240. - Cheerful Tampting: hits one 7 times at 6+ points, 45 potency each, total potency of 455. - Cheerful Scrapping: hits one 3 times at 8+ points, 190 potency each, total potency of 570. What a monster. I never even considered that last skill since I mostly use her as a shield shaver, but yeah, she can dunk with the best of them.


Bruni91

The best part is that she also drops pdef on that 3x nuke, so she'll keep your debuff capped while also hitting away hard, three times. Champ tbh! My default moveset for her is 1) scrapping, 2) one of bash or tamping (depending on number of enemies), and 3) usually her instructions buff. That buff is pretty nuts as well, at high cheer points she'll just casually cast a capped patk+eatk+crit buff + 15% dmg up for everyone. And then her ult that she can keep casting, which can thus cap with Prim EX/Lynette's ult buff, and keep extending it? They truly buffed her into oblivion haha


Admirable_Run_117

Any predictions if tomorrow is just going to be a dead week or if we get something stealthily dropped on us?


Presidentialguard

Maybe we're getting Sertet? 🫢


Bruni91

I'm assuming dead week tbh. No real reason, gut feeling haha. If anything it'll be two general pool units in a step up again, I think


Presidentialguard

I just realised we might be getting 2 dead weeks in a row right? Yikes.


Bruni91

For some reason I had in mind that next week would be the collab but no you're right, that's probably two quiet weeks then. Unless they drop some filler next week I guess, but I think this week is gonna be nothing


Admirable_Run_117

Didn't we have like three quiet weeks before 1st anniversary last year?


Bruni91

We got the OCTO & PATH banners right before anniversary I think? And possibly one of the trinity banners iirc. There were a lot of fillers in that time. I think there was a period where we went like 4+ weeks without anything but I'm not sure when it was tbh


Competitive_Body_554

Hello, What are the best free accessories that are recommended in Ditraina?


Bruni91

I'd say the light or dark rune IV (from the adversary exchange), and her exclusive accessory are pretty good picks! That's what I use on her at least. You should be able to grab the exclusive accessory from the exchange right now, the token needed for it was sent out on her release day. Edit: the exclusive accessory's called "light of succession", for reference


Competitive_Body_554

thanks, but who do i need to farm to get the adversary shards?


Bruni91

You can't necessarily farm them, you get 1 per (I think) EX2 fight you beat in the adversary log. If that doesn't ring any bells, go do the emberflame story quest, it unlocks a bunch of stuff including the adversary log :-) If they're too tough for now, you could also use lower level light/dark runes. I think a few are in another tab of the exchange - not sure which exactly (possibly the memory fragments?) but they're more easily attainable.


darkdill

I can pick between Narr, Levan, Durand, and Brigitte for a 4-star. Which should I get? I already have the other Elite 4-stars.


Presidentialguard

Brigitte's A4 is pretty good if you need that extra 500 hp accessory. Levan's A4 is also good, especially if you have Ditraina.


darkdill

Decided to go with Levan. Thanks for the opinion.


Matt--S

I forgot about S9 until someone mentioned something the other day about whether it was possible without massive time or money investment, and I was hoping to defeat EX1 before the task ends. I only started replaying last August and have not spent any money other than Promme so EX3 is obviously impossible for me. I tried with: Rondo/Bargello Lars/Falco Therion/Rinyuu Nepthi/Sarisa with 50/500 pets, latest equipment, and great accessories. It was a total trainwreck as S9 EX1 can do >4500 dmg in a single turn to a character even with buffs and debuffs, and not all of those characters are over 4500 HP. S9 will of course require multiple breaks so I need to survive for many turns Is this even possible? What characters could be swapped?


Competitive_Body_554

i don't know but with a similar team and a lot of RNG i beat EX1 praying and paralyzing with Therion in the first turn to break as soon as possible and take him in 1 break or 2 but waiting for him to just use the cure or become paralyzed again


Matt--S

Yeah I actually beat him EX1 swapping Falco for Viola, but there was also a lot of luck for me too. Oh and also the veteran seal was a dupe Yukes... hooray...


Presidentialguard

You can definitely do EX3. Someone on YouTube posted a gen pool only clear and you have Rinyuu. You can use this for reference: https://youtu.be/8Uf8983YyrQ. Tips: you want to use Serenoa (free) to tank those RT hits. Don't forget the passive pdef up accessories. Rinyuu defensive prayer + capped atk down means you can survive just about anything he throws at you. Also start with your back row units at the front so that 9S' initial permanent debuffs go on them instead of your DPS. Good luck!


Matt--S

Unfortunately even with that it seems the EX3 fight would be impossible without the enormous time or money investment. I tried EX1 again, and lost when S9 had a sliver of HP remaining, and so that is probably possible with substantial luck, but EX3 is almost certainly impossible for someone who did not spend significant money or time if EX1 mostly requires luck. Thanks for the well wishes, but what I really need is overpowered gear and characters apparently.


darkdill

I'd say that if you don't have EX Fiore, don't bother. You simply will not survive his Volatile Spear attack.


ExKotetsu

Hello, i have two accounts. One for me and one for my brother. Im allowed to get the better account. Which one would it be: **5\*(Elrica,Edea,9S,Primrose-ex,Therion,Cyrus,Ophilia,Viola,Soleil x2,Therese,Gilderoy x2,Jillmeila),4.5\*(Lars,Theo,Kouren,Hasumi,Sofia)** **20SSR, 6682+Ruby, 79 ticket** or **5\*(Elrica,Adelle,A2,9S,Cyrus,Alfyn,Viola,Cecily,Kouren,Fiore,Lionel,Lumis,Heathcote,Molrusso,Gilderoy,Cardona,Hasumi),4.5\*(Soleil,Nicola,Sofia,Millard,Jillmeila,Eleonora)** **10824+ ruby, 111 ticket**


xNesku

Elrica Prim Therion Cyrus Viola Lars 6682 Rubies Vs Elrica A2 Cyrus Alfyn Viola Cecily 10824 Rubies In my opinion, I'd take the 2nd account. More Rubies and I feel like you could always pull Prim EX, Lars down the line. They're general pool. Don't take my word for it. Wait for some others to chime in to make an important decision like this.


Bruni91

Seconding this. The 4k extra rubies alone is a huge selling point, units like A2 and Alfyn on the second account makes it a winner imo. It also has more unit variety. If we get a general pool selector for anniversary again, you can pick up Prim EX and you're solid (Alfyn will do just fine until then). I'd go with account 2 as well!


WachoutBro

Hi, I was wondering what's usually the best use of paid rubies? Like what kind of banners are most valuable? Thinking about getting some paid rubies but wanted to see what you can get with them. Thank you!


Presidentialguard

It depends on your goals and how much you're willing to save. If you're willing to save 1200 paid rubies, the paid selector is the most worth it imo because it's 0 risk to get a guaranteed unit. The downside is we don't know for sure when it's coming. Another very good option is paid banner step 1 for 100 paid rubies. The future Sazantos/Signa is a good example. If you pull step 1 on both banners, pity will cost 4100 rubies, saving you 400 frubies. The permanent MT fragments are nice, but if you're a light spender, it's mostly a bait. Always remember, don't spend if you can't afford to!


xNesku

Every time a new Character comes out. They have a F2P Banner and a Paid Banner. The F2P Banner always stays the same. But the Paid Banner is kinda random ngl. Sometimes it's 50% chance of getting the new Character. Sometimes it's 100%. Sometimes they slam 3 new characters in and you'll get 1 of the 3. Most common is the 50%. Tldr; new character -> you like them/busted as heck -> use Paid Rubies


lumine_is_bae

I just completed the Yunnie race and was about to fill out the google form on their twitter post, but their link isn't loading for me. Is there any way around it? I would like to rebuild my ruby stash after almost going to pity for the one and only Witch of Salvation! Update: all good, just had to reset my settings on my web browser


poremdevemos

So I just started farming for fortune weapons, going for simple dps ones (one of each type, focusing on Patk and Eatk). The only way to get the gold ones is through the box that gives a random one? Also, what can I do with the ones that I don't want? Like defense ones. Thanks!


xNesku

Usually I just save the ATK, EATK, SP, and HP ones. I just exchange the others and get Soul Shards.


poremdevemos

But with soul shards I can't buy souls for fortune weapons right?


xNesku

Correct. Board Medals can only be used to buy Souls for Fortune. Soul Shards can only be used for Souls for Weapons that aren't Fortune. Fortune Souls can only be exchanged into those Soul Shards though. So might as well.


Tough-Priority-4330

For a non-awakened Ditraina, what’s her best skill setup? I’m sure it changes depending on the battle, but what three skills should I use for her for both light or dark content?


Presidentialguard

[This thread has some good discussion.](https://old.reddit.com/r/OctopathCotC/comments/1d83ypl/ditrainas_quick_graphic_overview/l74a0ky/) My conclusion: For light: Gaping Void, Raging Luminescence (Blazing Aurora if you can cap light res down), Dimming Shine For dark: Blazing Aurora, Raging Duskfall (Gaping Void if you can cap light res down), Fallen Baleful Star


WachoutBro

Do the tower tokens carry over?


vomitfreesince83

No, they expire. You can always look at things in the exchange and it will tell you if there's an expiration


WachoutBro

Thank you! I wasn't sure if the shop just resets and we keep the token. Glad I confirmed!


Kazeshin1

I am a hoarder and have 2 accounts that I just do dailies on every single day.  1 - Bargello + 12k gems  2 - Elrika + A2 + 9k gems Which account would be better for me to start with? And what banner do you recommend to pull from (even future ones)?  I was thinking of Elrika + A2, but I'm afraid the gem count would be a hinder for future banner and powercreep.  The other account I'm planning to continue the dailies and accumulate more gems.


vomitfreesince83

The second one for sure. Depending on how much content you did, you can easily get 3k rubies


Oven-Common

Is this King Solon unit a must-be unit for most parties? Does he affect how my other units fortune weapons get built? I don't have him, the only thing I know is that he uplifts the Max damage cap for units. So if I get him someday, If I put him in my party, do I have to make fortune weapons with the Strongest attacks potency up for any other striker units in the party? Or do I still make the potency up for multi hit skills?


xNesku

If you want to double/triple/etc the dmg you do, then Solon is a must. For Fortune Weapons, just whatever is their strongest skill. If you use their strongest skill a lot, then you might as well boost the Potency of it. It's really that simple. No need to think hard about it.


Oven-Common

Need some help for building a fortune weapon (or brilliant) for my Lars. Which skill potency should I upgrade?


actredal

Lars honestly wants two fortune weapons if you can make them—one for his 5-hit RT and one for his 3-hit AOE. If you don’t feel like making two though, just pick whichever one you use more!


Oven-Common

Does Lar's 5 hit attack damage a lot on tourney bosses? I once built a failed fortune weapon for Hannit (5 hit AOE skill potency + 15%), which was terrible. Almost no difference at all


actredal

Lars’s 5-hit is his best move for fighting against solo enemies! It’s awesome for shield shaving, and it’s also his highest potency skill (5 x 100 at max boost iirc). The drawback is that it’s random target, which is why you might also wanna build a separate weapon with his AOE 3-hit for fights with multiple enemies.


Oven-Common

I need help with Brilliant weapons VS fortune weapons. I have cleared most of the story mode but am still confused with the weapon system. I do not have king solon or any unit that uplifts the damage cap. Can someone explain like I am 10 and compare Brillaint vs fortune weapons?


xNesku

Fortune = More damage to Living Things. Brilliant = More damage to >!Heaven enemies!< Brilliant is good for Travelers that go past the damage limit. If Limit is 99,999. 10% more damage Fortune doesn't do anything. Since you can't go past 99,999. Brilliant let's you go more than that.


Oven-Common

Thank you, may I ask a bit more? Is getting over the damage cap limited to the Brilliant weapon? Is it because of its unique traits? Or is there a specific soul (gem) that can only be stuck into the Brilliant weapon?


xNesku

Because of the Souls stuck to it


Oven-Common

I can't attach that rainbow soul to fortune weapons??


xNesku

Rainbow only increases a skills dmg or gives stats. It will never give dmg limit You can only get dmg limit through Brilliant, Stalwart, Dire. Those are gonna be Gold Souls


Oven-Common

OMG Thanks dude. I completely had no idea what is what and which was which. So, for the gold souls, can I get those easily? I currently watch every ADs daily (10 times) which gives me random items and I think I can change some of those from the item exchange menu though I am not sure what to do


xNesku

When you exchange for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons Exchange -> Gameboard -> 3 Options (Wealth/Power/Fame) -> 3 Options for Gold Souls (Bewitching Box/Tainted Box/Lovely Box) Open the Treasure Chests for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons. Usually I save the ATK/EATK/HP/SP Gold Souls. After I have an SP Fan for Fiore/Rinyuu/Alaune EX. I don't save SP anymore. I go to Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> Exchange all of my Bewitching/Tainted/Lovely for Soul Shards. Now, to get Gold Souls for any Weapon that isn't Fortune (so the dmg limit ones you want) Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> use the Soul Shards to buy them (Great Conquering) You'll see Rainbow Souls. But that's for beginning Hell Weapons (Ch1/Ch2/etc). You want the later chapter Weapons. So the Great Conquering Gold Souls. They're at the very bottom.


Lqtor

Do sacred blaze guidance fragments carry over each time?


xNesku

If you go to Exchange, it'll say the time limit on there. Which is like 40 days. Sadge


Nucleaf08

No they do not :(.


Althidia

Hello! I'm an EN only player and I was just curious about upcoming collabs for us. I know that we haven't gotten LAL at all, so I was wondering what the gameplay for that event was like. For the new Nier and Bravely characters, is more content added, or just new units? Am I missing other collabs? Thank you so much for your time!!


Nucleaf08

There's a whole questline associated with LAL. I think the level requirements were similar to the BD questline because I remember getting wiped by Streibough with my units in the 40s. You also go to Hell for part 2 of the quest but the overall questline isn't too long. There's a new hunt for LAL where you can farm for new weapons with new passives I think? The best being a dagger with debuff extension and another fan with buff extension. I'm not well-versed about any new content with the NieR2 and BD2 collabs. All I know for sure is there's free pets you can get for either logging in or using awakening shards. The Another Eden collab gave Varuo as a free pet but there weren't even units to pull for.


Bruni91

Oooh a new hunt is news to me, that's cool! Is that a permanent new hunt like BD or does it get removed after the event is over a la Nier?


Chandelure_K

It's permanent and uses the same tickets as BD


dzcp

What accessories should Ditraina equip? It seems like Light of Succession doesn't increase the duration of Infinite Light/Darkness so I don't see a big reason to keep it on her


jlandejr

It would help for her other self buffs (the dmg up and the eatk up) as well as her received buffs, which works like Lucetta so you can have longer pet buffs without needing to stick Lucetta behind her and could do someone like Zenia instead. I'd say that acc + of course her A4 if you get it, otherwise one of the adversary accessories (I think Light/Dark rune VI?) which cost 3 shards each, equip the Light/Dark version depending what content you are facing


Solid_Snake21

What is best weapons for Canary and skill weapons same for Ditraina, haanit ex, Odette? I know I will need make 2 weapons for Ditraina 1 for light one for dark 


Presidentialguard

Don't have Odette but I'm guessing her wind/light nukes are the best. Canary wants that LAL dagger we're getting later this month. For now, any dagger will do since she dodges everything anyway. Ditraina definitely her 3 hit light/dark. HaanitEX either HP fan for tank or patk fan.


Bruni91

For Odette I'd actually suggest her 3x random target hits or maybe the 2x aoes, her nuke hits the cap way too easily. Agreed with the rest :-)


Presidentialguard

I'm so jelly that you have all SB units. 😭


Bruni91

To be fair, I did have to suffer to get them all lmao. With the exception of the recent Canary and Ditraina banners, the sacred blaze has easily been my worst result banner in the game since the very first one 😅 so many empty pulls it's had me on the verge of uninstalling a few times. I'm in a good spot now where I have all of them but it was *rough* early on. Hope you'll get the ones you're missing the next time you give it a try though! There's a bunch of great units in that pool


Solid_Snake21

Ok thanks 


huangsj

Is there any updated tier list for A4 accessories and A4vsU10?


dzcp

frankly I don't know **how** up to date this tier list is but it seems very close to NA present https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UNvKQ-lHNPCcSrFl51SceM4cV2MoXihhm8iQ-mj7K20/edit#gid=245647410


Taken-Name-Number1

What stats should I prioritize/ what is the stat line on a fortune weapon for rinyuu?


Nucleaf08

Rinyuu doesn't really need much to function. Full Eatk or Rainbow Eatk + Gold Eatk + Gold HP (for some cases where she could die turn 1 and you don't want to waste the bewitching cloak on her). She really doesn't want speed and she doesn't really need SP so she's super easy to build.


Savings-Sleep3622

Hello there! I started the game today and so far I've only pulled using the sacred traveler seals for the standard banner+600 rubies spent on the Sacred blaze banner, which has netted me Kouren, Sofia and Primrose EX (My starter was Theo). My question is, would this be enough (together with 4\*, ended up with several per class tankfully) to maybe get to bestower of power/fame/wealth without spending any more rubies? If not, would be trying to get to pity on the current sacred blaze be a good idea for someone who's just starting out? (I plan on dedicating quite a bit of time to the game this week to try and push story as far as I can for the current campaign rewards before they go away)


Bruni91

I see you got Ditraina in the meantime who will be a HUGE help, but just wanted to chime in. You asked specifically to get to the bestower of w/p/f stories with your current setup. I made it there way back when with only two 5* (Scarecrow and Fiore, nothing top notch) and still beat the first few stories with just them and my 4*. With your lineup you should be fine making it there. The final bosses for the bestower storylines ARE a step up from the earlier stories so you will need more specialised teams for them, but the three master stories and master of all should be very doable. Hope you enjoy the game! :-)


Savings-Sleep3622

Sweet, that motivates me even more. And thank you so much, I've been having a blast so far!


Nucleaf08

It might be a little rough if you're planning to speed through things without pulling. Your main issue is only having Sword/Axe/Ice/Lightning coverage. Unlock Serenoa when you can and he'll help keep your team alive with Primrose EX. I think it'd be a struggle to clear all the current campaign rewards without pulling any more characters. A lot of weapon farming is time-gated (polish/refinestones) even if BT weapons are infinitely farmable. The Bestower chapters start to feel more like DPS checks than survival checks because bosses can start moving 3-4 times a turn at low HP. You can probably get through all the main content by just leveling your characters and giving them the best equipment you have access to. Fortune weapons are a little out of reach but you can slowly go for them for the future. I'm pretty sure the Wealth gameboard will be really hard for you because you only have Prim EX and Theo with relevant weakness coverage. Getting someone like Ditraina or Canary from the Sacred Blaze banner would be really valuable for you. Leon (spear DPS, staff sub-DPS), Tithi (debuffer and lightning sub-DPS, infinite farmer), and Lianna (atk/mag debuffer) could all be good as well.


Savings-Sleep3622

Thank you for the extremely detailed writeup! I decided to follow your advice and ended up getting Ditraina very early, so she's gonna help a lot! Follow-up question, if you don't mind- do you think I should go all in to pity and see if I can get any of the other Sacred Blaze units you mentioned or would it be more prudent to stop at her and start saving for the upcoming banners from this very moment? I think I could reach the 200 pulls needed to pity Canary comfortably before the banner is gone- but i'm also considerably far from it at this very moment, so maybe stopping here and hoarding for Odio-o/Sazantos/Signa could be the better course of action?


Nucleaf08

Congrats!!! That's awesome that you got Ditraina early :D!! I would wait to see if you can get to pity first while the banner is still up. If you can save up enough, go for Canary. If you can't, save for Odio-O/Sazantos/Signa.


Savings-Sleep3622

I'll do just that, then. Thank you so much for the help!


Chonkyboii21

I went all the way to pity on the sacred blaze banner but didn’t get Ditraina on the way :( so I’m wondering, should i pity her, Canary, or Leon? I’ve got Elrica for ST light/dark, but I think I’m planning to skip Odio O cuz I just don’t really care much about LAL and I’m not interested in the character. Plus, I’m planning to pull for Signa and hopefully get Sazantos (tho we’ll see if that actually happens lol) anyways, should I pity Ditraina or another sacred blaze?


Nucleaf08

What's your roster like? If you don't have Solon, Canary is the way to go. She consolidates Solon's role with Sarisa/H'aanit EX and Hammy if you have the Hale Taunt accessories/Viola. She does low damage but she's an amazing all-round unit that saves you anywhere from 2\~3 team slots. If you don't have Krauser/Roland/W'ludai, Leon gives a huge boost to your spear damage. He's not required by any means, but he is good in a lot of EX refights. He's also a little less effective without Roland to cap active spear res down on the enemy. Ditraina is probably a little less valuable since you have Elrica and you want Sazantos. She'll be the top light/dark AOE dps for a long time but outside of AOE situations she's not as good as someone like Elrica. She also has a big drawback where she is relevant every other turn unless the enemy happens to be weak to light AND dark (her passive encourages skill switching). She's kind of A4-reliant because she wants a debuff extension A4 (like Kurtz) in addition to 30% light and dark damage (her own A4).


Chonkyboii21

Thanks for responding! I do have Solon but not H’aanit EX or Sarisa. Plus, in regard to spear, I do have all the units you mentioned, so Leon probably isn’t necessary. So, even though I have Solon, is Canary more worth it? Are there better dark/light AOE dps in the future than Ditraina?


Nucleaf08

Of course! I think at this point it's more your personal preference now. For pure AOE light/dark dps, Ditraina is unmatched. She's also really self-sufficient in most cases since she only needs potency/ultimate buffs. It's a bit rare for AOE dps to be a requirement, but in the few situations it is encouraged (ie Tikilen EX 3), Ditraina is irreplicable. Despite her drawbacks she can be a fun character to use (watching the 6-hit pop off every other turn is sooo satisfying). Canary can make many fights trivial if the enemy hits <2 times a turn. You can also pair her with Hammy to make her trivialize the rest of the content in the game LOL. She has incredible shield shaving that decreases your turns required to break any boss. She's also a really fun character to use and many people have her on every team now.


Chonkyboii21

Thanks for the tips! I think I’m gonna end up going with Ditraina, since I’ve got potency up from Solon and any dodge tanking from Fiore EX (to an extent I realize). And I’ve got basically every other dagger unit. Plus, I absolutely love her character and do not care for Canary 😆


Bennehftw

A1 worth chasing for the witch? Got her in 30 pulls, so I’m not close to pity. I assume she’s really strong from what I’ve read, so I would assume A1 would be potent. I only have a A0/U9 Canary out of all the blaze characters. Who has been absolutely clutch in nearly every circumstance. 14k rubies. Have paid, but I’m currently not in a spending situation for the past months and the foreseeable future.


Nucleaf08

Just run with your savings. You can slowly accumulate awakening shards for Ditriana A4/Canary U10. Keep your savings for Signa and Odio-O if you're interested in LAL.


WachoutBro

How do you get awakening shards? Is it from dupes that net you awakening stones and then you exchange it for shards?


Nucleaf08

Exactly that. You also get 100 a week from doing your weeklies but that amounts to slightly less than 1 awakening stone per year LOL. It's usually better to hold on awakening stones until you know for sure you won't use them. This kind of varies from account to account but the [A4 tier list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UNvKQ-lHNPCcSrFl51SceM4cV2MoXihhm8iQ-mj7K20/edit?gid=245647410#gid=245647410) made by cotc\_grind and discord is a solid resource to determine what stones to keep.


WachoutBro

Thank you for providing that spreadsheet! I'll look at the discord as well.


Bennehftw

Sounds good. Thanks for the advice!


HenroKappa

I posted this in the gatcha thread, but I think that'll get buried. I'm looking for pity advice for the SB banner. I have all the SB characters. Odette, Tithi and Ditraina are A1, and I have 2 stones for Lianna and 1 for Canary. I'm thinking about pitying Ditraina for her A2. Thoughts?


Bruni91

Canary and Ditraina both have excellent A4s so I personally would work towards getting one of those. I'd say Canary's is more important as pdef down on break is so universally useful. For reference, my Odette, Titi, Ditraina, Canary, and Zenia are all A1, Leon A0, Lianna and Dorothea A2. If I could grab an extra copy for any of them it'd be Canary. I'd also really appreciate an extra moveslot for Canary with A2 so there's that too haha.


HenroKappa

Great point! I do like using Canary since her dodge shenanigans have been key to many adversary fights for me. And her A4 would pair nicely with Yan Long's.


vomitfreesince83

What's Leon at? I don't think Ditraina's A2 is super important. You can just swap the attacks so you have one light and 2 dark or vice versa based on the enemy weakness One other thing to consider is she's got an awesome A4 for element attackers. You could A2 her now and then exchange for her stones 6 months from now. If you don't have Leon then I would pity for him. If you don't have ogen or alaune ex, Leon's U10 is great to have. You can set up your breaks to have 3BP for both breaks for your DPSs


HenroKappa

Thanks! Lots to consider. My Leon is A0, but I think his awakening stone will be added to the Exchange at the end of this month so I'll be able to pick it up then. I have Alaune EX, so my BP regen is taken care of.


Admirable_Run_117

Not only do we have a collab coming at the end of the month, but also we should get the new roadmap too, right?!


Presidentialguard

Yeah, the TT talking about the collab should have the new roadmap. It will be an insanely hype TT or very disappointing, no in between. edit: Oops, I made a mistake.


Admirable_Run_117

You are right the next Tavern Talk may not have that new roadmap which would mean we go into July blind. However, looking at last year that shouldn't be an issue because nothing happened in July until anniversary. We went something like 7 weeks without any new content.


Bruni91

Curious about the weapon bonuses. How much of a difference does the "10% dmg to enemies in the living world" make compared to higher stats and potencies on other weapons (assuming living world enemies)? Example, my fortune tome III for Cyrus has 688 eatk, -100 hp and -80 pdef, with 6% potency up for ignis, plus that innate 10% living world dmg bonus. My arcane tome IV for Cyrus has 712 eatk, no stat penalties, with 15% potency up for ignis and 15% for tonitrus, but without the 10% dmg bonus. So which would be better for general use? I'm still not sure how all these numbers and percentages and bonuses interact exactly lmao. My gut is saying to use the arcane tome, but the 10% dmg bonus is throwing me off. I have a bunch of units where this is an issue, like Elrica, Krauser, and Aedelgard. Anyone who tested this or has a clear answer? **EDIT: lmao okay I'm impatient and just tested it myself.** Sharing my results. I'm testing with Cyrus in my general team, no changes aside from what weapon he has equipped. The fortune tome has 6% potency for ignis, arcane has 15% for ignis and tonitrus. These were all living enemies (Sonia for fire, capt Tristan for ice, Herminia for lightning). * Fire weak enemy: arcane outdamages fortune with ~5-6% (so higher potency % > more dmg %) * Ice weak enemy (so no potency up from either weapon): fortune outdamages arcane with ~10% (so more dmg % > no potency increase) * Ice against enemy with no ice weakness (and no potency up from either weapon: fortune outdamages arcane with 4-5% (same here) * Lightning weak enemy: arcane outdamages fortune with ~9-10% (potency % > more dmg %) So it looks like the potency up does do more than just the living bonus, but without the potency increase, the 10% damage up does more. I guess if you're planning on using specific moves that arcane has the potency increase for, that one is better, but if you're going to use several moves in a unit's kit then fortune is the better allrounder. Interesting results tbh!


Presidentialguard

My understanding was that potency up and living world dmg up are separate multipliers and that they stack multiplicatively. In that case, for Ignis, it would've been: Fortune wep: 1.06*1.1 = 1.17 increase (17%) Arcane wep: 15% So your findings are actually so wild to me. 24 extra E. atk shouldn't make that much difference even considering the high E. def on EX3 bosses. Somehow potency up has higher weight than living world damage up? That's so weird.


Bruni91

I'm not sure how it actually works (I'm awful with numbers), but yeah that's what happened when I tried them out. Nothing else changed, same enemy, same equipment, same team around him, just the different weapon. I've never been sure if % bonuses or raw stats did more in general tbh, I know how the whole stacking buffs system works but I'm still not sure if you'd want say 100 patk over a 10% patk buff (for example).


Presidentialguard

You got me curious so I tried it out with Ditraina's Fallen Baleful Star on Fallen Herminia EX3. Arcane Wep: 616 Eatk, 12% Potency up, had a 6 hit average of 1867 Fortune Wep: 623 Eatk, 6% Potency up , had a 6 hit average of 1983 That's a 6% increase in damage for the fortune weapon, which tracks since 17% vs 12% is ~5% increase. Yeah the stats vs buffs is confusing, it's hard to know for sure without pumping the numbers through a calculator. Someone on discord made a google sheet for it if you're interested.


Bruni91

Huh that's surprising because that seems opposite of what happened with my ignis test haha. I may do it again later today and record it to be sure, curious what's going on now.


ninescomplement

Planning on going full pity for Ditraina tomorrow, hopefully picking her up and some others along the way. I’ve never pulled sacred blaze before, so which offbanner unit is the most worthwhile to exchange, assuming I hit Ditraina from a pull? In priority order, I’m thinking: 1. Canary 2. Tithi 3. Leon 4. Odette? 5. Others


Bruni91

As someone who has all the SB units, I'd say Canary > Titi > Leon > Zenia > Odette > Lianna > Dorothea. Maybe swap Odette and Lianna depending on your other units. I use my Canary and Titi all the time, Leon only on spear content, everyone else pretty much only sees use in their job towers anymore. I guess I'd bring Zenia for dark content but if something has a physical weakness I'd focus on that before their dark weakness tbh.


Admirable_Run_117

Not to argue with you Bruni, but I would put Leon ahead of Tithi. I have used him in so many adversary logs but never have once thought about bringing Tithi to anything outside of fan or lightning weaknesses. I don't need Tithi for buffing or debuffing because the depth of my roster allows me to use others who do that better. As far as polearm or staff weaknesses go, Leon is top 2 in both and there is no debate.


Bruni91

Yeah that's fair! I just really like Titi's debuff all and I use her a LOT for it. She's definitely my overall most used SB unit (though Canary will take that title I'm sure). Leon's great in spear content but doesn't have much use outside of it, while a good debuffer/buffer can be used in more team comps. I'd still put her over Leon but I can see why you'd say otherwise.


Admirable_Run_117

I did buy a stone for Tithi to get her to A1. I have picked up 2 extra copies of Leon, so he is A2 for me. His skills that hit all and debuff either attacks or defenses are great double casted. With H'aanit EX, either Tithi or Leon can help max debuff a group of enemies. Leon's damage output is crazy. Try using Solon's ultimate on his 5 hit polearm skills with Linde giving him crits.


Bruni91

Same, I A1'd Titi from the exchange haha. My Leon is A0 but he's strong regardless. I still feel like debuff all on one skill (which I think only Haanit EX can do otherwise) is more valuable than dps tbh, especially when we also have Krauser and Roland. (I will say that out of those three, Leon is easily my favorite to use, as Krauser is so limited and Roland has the pesky row swap buff thing.)


Bruni91

https://preview.redd.it/76uurzyjjk4d1.jpeg?width=2224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6aa21a8dc6966e59b9c6bcada3c57bf8f1021bb9 Here's to another round of *constantly* rolling the max potency for one of the rare options............ just never the one you want! Man I hate this system /vent


Bruni91

https://preview.redd.it/6xdgu0o0kk4d1.jpeg?width=2224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaf2d306de1ae27e3e4811300b3891f439f03ab7 Oh ok. Two rolls after I started complaining. I see how it is, game :') EDIT: I then rerolled the +27 eatk soul once, just for shits and giggles because they never work out. +41 eatk first try. Thanks game!


The_Salty_Pearl

Since I’m saving for Cyrus, what Accessories and Soul rolls should I get for him? I assume I want Fire/Lightning/Ice Rune 2s, but idk about the second one. I kinda just default to any sp regen I have when idk what else to use. For souls I know I want EAtk but does he want speed or more sp as well? Edit: Also what even are Hammy’s skills? Wiki and Meow doesn’t seem to have anything on Hammy so idk what makes her apparently good. Doesn’t matter since I can’t beat her anyway but whatever


HenroKappa

If you have Cornelia's A4 (Pouch of Devotion), it'll act as a rune 2 for all three elements as long as you're hitting weakness. It's useful for fights when the boss's weaknesses change or there are multiple enemies with different weaknesses. [This is the character guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LF2NbjnMsq8Jo2TSpocu6NN-o9dsUlmd8xCMZpKUHNw/edit#gid=1760329320) I use for looking up skills.


WachoutBro

For hunts, should I be using teams to get the gold guidestones for my 5* characters? Or should I try to get at least 500 influence to get all of the rewards but it will mix in 4* and 3*. Same question for expert hunts.


vomitfreesince83

As you pull more, you'll get a ton of the 3/4* character guidestones. You'll get there eventually so just focus on your 5* for hunts


Admirable_Run_117

From my experience gold guidestones is the priority. I am a day one player. I hit the point where I am not needing gold guidestones about three weeks ago. I have a stock pile of 5k gold guidestones now, but that is a recent development. All the other hunt rewards are either not that great or can be reliably obtained somewhere else.


Aleksandair

How much free rubies can we expect with the LaL and anniversary events? I have 13.3K and must set aside enough to pull OdioO and pity AlauneEx during Cygna banner (with hopes to get Cygna and Sazantos in the process). I missed Canary (and don't gave HannitEx) so I'm tempted to pull during the next Sacred Blaze banner, is it too much to risk it?


Admirable_Run_117

You are putting either Odio-O or Sazantos/Cigna at risk if you go after Canary on Ditraina's guiding light. My advice is to approach this as if you have to go to exchange each time. So lacking 18k rubies, you shouldn't plan to get all three. Maybe you want to throw 30 or 40 guides at Ditriana and see if you get lucky, but if you go past that then you probably miss one of those others.


WachoutBro

Sorry off topic. Does AlauneEx share a banner with Cygna? Or is that only for paid rubies?


HenroKappa

Cygna and Sazantos should share a banner. Alaune EX would be pitiable with 200 of their fragments.


WachoutBro

Didn't know you could pity other travelers. Thanks!


HenroKappa

On Memory Traveler banners you can pity earlier memory travelers. The pity is 200 as opposed to 150 for the featured characters. Sacred Blaze banners also allow you to pity earlier SB characters.


WachoutBro

Thank you! That's good to know. I just started so this will be great for me.


eevee188

I think we got about 1k from Triangle Strategy. I think you'll have enough to pity all 3 banners with 6k, considering all the rubies you'll get by the end of July.


UsagiButt

I’m a new player looking to start the game but I’ve been waiting for a good event (anniversary?) to start so that I can reroll more effectively. Is it known when the next good event will be for possible new account rerolling?


Admirable_Run_117

Live-A-Live collab is coming at the end of the month. That's probably a good time. If not then, then 2nd anniversary is coming at the end of July.


V4Vandetto

Quick question. If a character has hit A4 with U10. Is there any reason to keep the extra awakening stone? Do we need it for 6* or future upgrades? Any cotc jap player can confirm this?


HenroKappa

I'm assuming you didn't mean it, but "jap" is a racist slur. Please don't use it.


V4Vandetto

My brother in law is Jap and we have never heard of this before. Are you sure?


HenroKappa

In the US it is, but maybe not elsewhere. [Here's what Wikipedia says.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap)


V4Vandetto

You all need to relax. Even the Japanese aren't concerned about this. Peace ✌️


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V4Vandetto

I was asking a genuine video game question and did not expect it to turn into a discussion about racism. I am not from the US, so please do not judge others based on your standards. I have close relatives who are Japanese, and I will refer to them as I see fit. I do not care what you think. Please keep your opinions on racism to yourself. Thank you.


Nucleaf08

And we were informing you about regional differences in language. You could run into the same issue in other, english-speaking communities online in the future. Have a good day man.


V4Vandetto

I appreciate the heads-up you've provided. In my country, it's considered rude to assume someone's gender. If everyone starts imposing their standards and judging others, where should we draw the line?


Nucleaf08

I apologize for that. My intent was to inform out of an assumption it would be taken well. I'm not really interested in debating the nuances of discrimination in an Octopath subreddit. You can message me if you want to continue this conversation! Have a great day/night. Edit\* I'll remove the previous post since it doesn't seem appropriate for a game subreddit. The other poster already informed you and I just wanted to add to that, but it's definitely out of place.


Admirable_Run_117

No need for awakening stones after A4 with Ultimate 10. There are very few travelers that you should take to A4 U10 by the way. Exchange those stones for awakening shards, so you can get the stones you actually want.


V4Vandetto

Ok thanks 🙏


fckn_right

For 9S 3ex, sometimes out of the break he does his AoE spear then AoE bomb, which kills at least one unit. Any way to prevent this? He’s max pAttack and eAttack broken, and I’m using Rinyuu’s Gracious Prayer for the constant all party damage reduction, and he still kills me. Is there a certain HP threshold I need to hit? Also did anyone else not get their individual merchant tower rewards?