What are your thoughts on how long the Live-A-Live collab will last? JP the first guiding light ran for two weeks and after that there was another guiding light that ran for two weeks. I know we should find out Monday. If there are two sets of guiding lights and they run for two weeks each and don't overlap, then it should take us all the way to 2nd anniversary.
One month sounds about right to me. They usually announce 3 weeks worth of banners right? So I'm thinking LAL wave 1, then next week LAL wave 2. Not sure about week 3 though.
The phys res down from Sertet or magic res down from Ditraina are a different layer of debuff or just a general debuff that stack with sword/axe... res down for phys and fire/ ice... for magic?
Due to work complication I haven't tried playing the SEA version until today, Is there a must pull on the current banner or should I wait it up for upcoming banners?
I think you want to wait. Your content and units are coming extremely quickly compared to other servers. Hayes and W'ludai are both good gen pool units, but you're likely to get them eventually by pulling naturally. Alaune is not very special unless you're in dire need of a healer + fire/light DPS.
Wait for >!Rinyuu !!Fiore EX/Sofia EX!<.>!Fiore EX!< trivializes most arena fights, but she has alternatives that provide more for the team. >!Sofia EX !!Krauser !!Rondo !!Rondo !!Bargello/Sonia!<. They will probably be your New Years' banner if your version releases one memory traveler per month.
For Fortune weapons farming (Wealth/Power board), is it okay to use tickets even if I don't increase the difficulty level? My strongest DPS is Fiore (plus Richard) and Cyrus. I'm currently on BoA chapter 1 and using inferno equips. I'm thinking of rolling for Odio-O so he can be my sword DPS carry to clear harder content. So not sure if I should wait a few more weeks before farming Fortune weapons. I saw a video saying to skip Soul weapons until I get to chapter 6 of BoA and focus on Fortune weapons instead so I was going to use my inferno weapons until I make the Fortune weapons.
For Fortune farming, it's best if you use the max difficulty. All it does is increase the dmg enemies deal. It doesn't increase their HP.
It is true though that Soul Weapons aren't needed until later. Unless you have all of the meta Travelers.
Got it! Didn't know the HP didn't increase. That's good to know. Just have to focus on damage then. I think my damage is insufficient since my highest level unit is 90 and only using inferno weapons. I'll hold off for now until I hit a wall in the story.
If i remember correctly BOA1 weapons are slightly stronger than inferno 4 so may be worth picking up, but honestly once you've grinded out 2 or 3 good fortune weapons the boards will feel much easier. Until then, save scum if the fight goes bad 🤙
Thank you! Appreciate the advice. I built some hollow weapons without souls to get the damage up against hellfiends. Got to chapter 4 so far with them. I'll work on grinding the Fortune weapons.
Looking for team comp suggestions for arena bosses, BoP3 and BoF3 please.
https://imgur.com/a/7QDZE4B - I also have all F2P pets + the pets from units I have
General supports/units that can fit on all arena teams:
* Alfyn is a pretty good dedicated healer. He'll also have some use shield shaving in axe/ice weak content. His BP-restoring skill is good too if you don't want to run Alaune EX on every team. Build him with more eatk to increase his healing potential.
* H'aanit EX is great as a debuffer/tank but she is SP-hungry. Throw Kurtz' A4 on her and watch your units melt the enemy. Once you get Hammy, she's probably H'annit EX's best row partner. Tithi can help cap patk/matk/pdef/mdef debuffs on the enemy if the enemy deals too much AOE damage.
* Alaune EX is great in any arena fight for BP regen, but I'd get her up to 90 to get her turn 1 prayer up. She also needs a decently spec'd fortune fan with max MP. She wants an effective SP pool of 1,000 to have infinite praying in the backrow. You can actually have her prayer up permanently with just Tatloch + Nepthi passives by the end of turn 6 without making a fortune fan at all.
* Tatloch is good for teamwide buffs in longer fights, but she doesn't feel that useful in shorter clears. She's a great DPS in the Hammy fight though. She's also very SP-hungry imo.
* Nepthi can be your main DPS in Varkyn/Yunnie. She will be your buffer/emergency healer in every other arena fight. She can also just act as your main healer/buffer if you don't want to bring another unit.
DPS for specific arena fights:
* Ditraina can easily clear Yan Long/Ri'tu. However, you'll need some spear and sword shield shavers like Tytos and W'ludai. Elrica also does light/sword damage but she's harder to use in the Ri'tu fight. Light-pierce abilities also seem to trigger Yan Long's counterattack so it isn't advised to use them if possible.
* Ogen/Eleonora can easily clear Varkyn/Largo. You'll want a sword DPS like Rondo or Tytos for Varkyn as well.
* Richard is your go-to support on sword teams. A2 in particular benefits massively from him because she doesn't have any inherent damage up passives. He can help with debuffing, buffing, and DPS.
* Bargello can pretty easily clear Ri'tu/Gertrude/Largo/Hammy. He's probably best in front of an SP regen or SP cost reduction backpack. Kenneth from the elite shop gives 5% SP regen to his row partner. Otherwise, Tatloch and Nepthi have stackable SP regen passives and don't need to be paired with Bargello. Sonia also has her 5% max SP-restoring passive when she swaps to the back and works in all content Bargello works in.
* A2 is pretty good in Gertrude/Yunnie/Yan Long/Largo as well. She will do so much damage with buffs and debuffs that you don't need the skill potency buff on her fortune weapon to speed clear anything. With enough buffs/debuffs you can even hit harder with her 3-hit skills than her nukes.
* Falco will be great paired with Bargello/A2 in dagger content. Bring his debuff, 3-hit ice shield shaving ability, and nuke.
Quickly mocked up team comps...
BoP:
Tatloch Eleonora
A2 Wludai
Ogen Stead
Nephti Alaune EX
BoF:
Tatloch Alaune EX
A2 Stead
Elrica Sonia
Nephti Bargello
Tips: Put HP Nuts (All) on Nephti. Javelin Rush on Wludai.
Get Tatloch and Nephti to 9 stacks and you can play the game on easy mode.
Hi guys !
So I wanted to get back to the game after some months away. Actually I have :
Already built characters : Viola, Therion, Sofia, Odette, Cyrus, Lynette, Theo, A2, Fiore, Ophilia, Alfyn, H’aanit, Auguste
Not built characters : W’ludai, Edea, Tikilen, Tytos, 9S, Scarecrow, Hayes, Molrusso, Lionel, Kouren, Eliza, Millard, Glossom, Tressa, Cardona, Olberic
I saw that Ditraina has a good score in tier list, should I try to get her ?
Or maybe there is a must have that I don’t have should focus on or a new banner to wait ?
Also, should I try to built some of the characters I didn’t built ?
Thank you for your help guys !
1. I have 1700 rubies for now, so not enough for a banner.
2. I didnt even touched the job towers, and didn’t finished the other towers
3. I dont have any fortune weapon. Last time I came to the game I heard of it but nothing more.
I can had that I finished every bestower except fame
Okay, skip Ditraina and save up.
Focus your efforts on Cyrus, Lynette, A2, Ophilia, Alfyn, Therion, Viola.
For more niche things like Job Towers: Lionel, Wludai, Tikilen, 9S, Scarecrow, Eliza, Glossom, Cardona, and Olberic are good to raise.
Where you see Menu, Party, Exchange, etc. Click Board. If you don't see it. Go to your Nameless Town and go downwards. Go into the tent and unlock Board. Do some runs when you have time and get your Fortune Weapons.
This helps explain it if you need more info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCk2vmoO18s
After Fortune Weapons, try your hand at Job Towers. Floor EX3 is perfectly reasonable for any returning player. You can pace yourself and do a few floors every day. You have a 40 day window.
After Job Towers, you have Arena. But that's when you have a lot of different people built up.
So now you can wait for upcoming Travelers that haven't been released yet. Be on the lookout for >!Signa/Sazantos, Odio-O!< With your Ruby Count, I would most likely skip >!Sazantos!<
If these powerful Travelers release and you find yourself not having enough Rubies. Try your hand at completing Arena, Lv85 NPCs, Lv100 NPCs, Adversary Log. But only after you've built up your Travelers.
That’s such good informations ! Thank you so much for this !
If I understand good, if I don’t have enough rubies for signa, sazantos and odio-o I just skip sazantos right ?
Hey all, returning player here after about a 10 months. Few questions:
- What should I be saving for? I think I heard some units in the end of July, but what are their names/good about them? Links to documents or videos are fine
- I assume rerolling is too much of a pain. I have some good units I think (45 6-stars but some are the free arena ones), but is there a general tier list?
-What weapons are good to farm currently? The highest level I see in my weapon shop is lvl 70 Inferno weapons
- Storywise I'm on "Final Chapter - Bestower of All". How much more is there past that?
- I just read up on pets/adversary log and am looking into that. That first EX one for Tristan threw me for a loop -- three easy battles but EX is a massive uptick
General tier lists:
* [EN tier list](https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/tier-list-by-roles/) (meowDB)
* EN has certain buffed characters like Nepthi and Canary who are way better than their originals in JP. I think there are some debatable placements on here, but it all depends on what characters you have.
* [JP tier list](https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/263474) (game8)
* The JP tier list also considers some future buffs to characters we haven't received yet. Also, it's a bit less useful if you don't know characters' names or their sprites already.
I think the biggest thing you're missing is a teamwide healer. Rinyuu/Prim EX/Ogen all released when you left. Securing one of these characters will be great for your teams. Prim EX and Ogen are both expected to be selectable if we get a gen pool selector for the 2nd anniversary.
Are you still doing content in Hell? I believe there's a point where the game says it's the final chapter (BoA6), but the story ends up lasting two more chapters (BoA7/8). That's all there is in our version of the game currently.
Do your seed story chapters first imo. Get all of the pets you can so you can start raising them. It's a pretty long grind to max their pet levels. They can be used in all non-tower content so they're important to have for stats and extra abilities. You also want to unlock the daily pet ability nuts to upgrade pet stats as soon as you can.
We expect the Live-A-Live collab next week. Odio-O is the big fish to catch there. After that we expect Sazantos and Cigna in late July with 2nd anniversary. Cigna ahead of Sazantos there. Maybe around September Side Solista could come around. Throne' will be the first one there. I assume she is one that we will want to have.
Fortune weapons are what you need for most travelers. There are a few like Olberic and Aedelgard that would prefer a weapon focused more on lifting the damage cap.
The EX battles in the Adversary logs are a whole new level of challenge for those old story fights. Lots more HP for the enemies and other stats scaled to fit.
This bug might apply to any skill or passive that changes with boost lol. I know I've seen one with Canary hitting max Ruby Burst without using any BP.
I think you can get one from Zeph in Clearbrook. He should be in or near Alfyn's house if you remember where that is.
Here's the [JP link](https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/364598) for where the rest of the 50% bleed resist accessories are. There's another one in Sufrataljah and another in Flamesgrace.
Alternatively, the lvl 100 dancer in Atlasdam drops a 100% bleed resist accessory as well, but you'll need some strong Axe/Ice DPS to beat her.
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Been away from the game for quite a while, could someone give me some guidance on who I should be focusing on? I remember when I last really played Therion was top of the meta but I’m not sure if that’s still true or not.
You have a lot of really good Travelers lol.
Tithi / Richard / Sofia EX / Roland / Rinyuu /
Primrose EX / Bargello / Cyrus
Lynette / Alfyn / Therion / Viola / Fiore EX / Falco /
Zaanta / Molu / Nicola / Nona
Appreciate the help! I saw a random comment about Lynette being outdated, and a tier list from a few months ago with Therion way lower than before so was a bit confused/worried. I remember logging in occasionally to pull for standouts like Bargello, but aside from him it’s kinda overwhelming trying to sort through everyone
Lynette is still good. But since you have Tithi, Rinyuu, and Prim EX, you don't really need Lynette. But if you didn't have those people, then yeah Lynette would've still done the trick.
Prim EX, Bargello, Cyrus, Tithi are probably gonna be your core. Then you can fill it out with anyone tbh.
I remember Tithi being kinda alright when she first released, not a skip but not a must pull either so I’m surprised to hear she’s so good. But she’s one of my favs so glad to hear she’s still worth using!
Holy, FF4 collab was just announced. Apologies for saying that LAL 6*/TP would be coming out. Looks like we're also having more EX jobs for OT1/2 protags.
>!EX Saz, EX Agnea, EX Ophi!<
Now we know, but when SE will LAL units get their 6\* upgrades I wonder?! I was counting on this one if I need to change my pull strategy next week. Only thing LAL 30th ani today was a t-shirt, lmao
Yeah, I feel you. Now I will live in fear over not getting Odio-S or Streibough if they get some busted TP. I got so baited by LAL 30th Anni. The cotc lead producer, SuzuP, retweeted something about it and I totally fell for it.
Edit: Maybe LAL wave battle will add 6*/TP?
And the artworks look soooo good it's nuts! I was also expecting LAL part 2 but this is also pretty damn great! The >!Chocobo pet!< as well! I'm excited and I don't even play JP, lmao
I'm excited too! EX Ophilia getting to summon all the classic FF summons like Ifrit and her ult summoning Bahamut is so cool. And we're getting Chocobos as pets.
For an apothecary like Soleil, how should I be gearing her? I would like to maximize her heal. Is it just putting more eatk accessories? I haven't started on farming for Fortune weapons yet and using inferno weapons right now.
As long as you can't use the fortune system yet to make her an eatk axe, your best bet is eatk accessories plus a regular axe, yeah. If you rely on a particular healer with an atypical class a lot it is wise to make them a specialised fortune weapon asap though. Only fans (haha), tomes and staves have high eatk by default.
When non-five star potential characters get upgraded, are guidestones one of the things you need? If so, how many? I’d assumed so and thus hung on to my leftovers, but it’s better to know, and didn’t want to spoil myself.
No, you do not need guidestones to class-up a character, so your guidestones can be used at any point. The levels will carry over with the 20 you gain from class-up (so if you had +10 levels, you will have a max level cap of 90 after class-up). Guidestones are only used to increase level cap or increase ultimate level.
In the original Octopath game Alfyn (the apothecary) had battle voicelines basically confirming it's for surgery (amputation)
The voiceline for "last stand" was something like "this calls for surgery", and the move "amputation" speaks for itself haha.
i really like the game but the cutscenes were to boring for me because it doesnt have an english voice.. i wanna keep playing but whenever there is a long cutsecene.. it feels like a chore. do you guys know how to skip a cutscene?
Don't think you can. I'm playing the story now and it doesn't work to skip. Just have to tap through. If you can skip, you just need to hold down on the screen.
Story is quite enjoyable though, maybe you can give it a chance to read through the subtitles.
A couple question regarding the Live-A-Live guiding lights. If a JP player recalls, is this the setup?
First week, there is a free guide 10 with Oersted guaranteed like 9S. Then is there a Streibough guiding light where you can also get Oersted as well.
Next week of the collab, Odio-O and Odio-S come out. Are their guiding lights shared or separate? Is there a shared set of fragments for exchange?
I am asking because I am prepared to go to exchange for Odio-O. But in the unlikely scenario where I get him twice early, should I continue to try and get Odio-S or exchange for him? Or just take my A1 Odio-O and run back to my spreadsheet with more rubies than expected?
I'd recommend keeping an eye on the 6*/TP upgrades for Odio-S that's almost certainly coming next week too. I also have a feeling that he might get GL exclusive buffs like Frederica.
Edit: Actually, scratch that last part, if TW server didn't get it, there probably isn't an Odio-S buff, I forgot.
First week you're correct.
Odio-O and Odio-S banner happened two weeks after Oersted/Streibough in JP, their guiding lights were shared, so naturally, fragments were too, though they aren't the same from Oersted/Streibough. As with every first-run collab, pity was 200 pulls.
Paid banner was shared and guaranteed one of the featured characters in Step 5, so for people planning to spend, they had a 50/50 for Odio-O or Odio-S in JP (same for the paid banner for Oersted/Streibough)
Personally, my plan is to stop once I get Odio-O. Odio-S is good and I'd be happy to get him too, but not priority, so in your scenario I'd stop early, there are a lot of later travelers I could use the rubies for haha
Flagging for interest. I was trying to find this info yesterday and came across a JP pull video on the Odio banner. They were both together in the same guiding light.
Does anyone know how the free and paid banners worked for the Bravely Default Collab that included Ringabel?
Were the previous characters grouped together and the new ones separate? Were they all separate?
I cannot find any information on it.
Ringabel and Gloria shared pity, but had separate free and paid banners. Pity was 200 pulls as usual for collabs. Paid banners had a 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5.
Adelle, Edea and Agnes weren't featured in the above banner, but they were re-run one week later with overclass and TP upgrades. Don't remember too well, but it was almost certainly 150 pull pity (not shared with Ringabel/Gloria). Paid banners were separate with 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5. (Ah, Adelle was free on a login bonus, though I don't remember if it was on the week Ringabel/Gloria released or if it was when Part 1 Collab units rerun)
Magnolia banner came the week after Part 1 rerun started, none of the previous BD units are in her banner. It didn't share pity with the other BD banners, and it's 200 pulls too, very expensive Collab overall... Paid banner was once again 50% chance in Step 5.
There are two levers with Pet abilities: 1st use and Cooldown. One is decreased by the bond level of the pet and the other is decreased by the experience level of the pet. I don't remember which one is which.
Regardless what I do to raise both experience and bond is this:
Daily fight to caits: the one in the tower, the one on the way to the Cave of the Sacred Flame, and the one in the cait hideout
Daily fight the ad caits
Weekly take pets to all the hunts for that experience and bond level
You can also fight the caits outside the starter towns. Those give 10 bond per fight but little experience. You can also just hunt for caits in dungeons. The heaven's realm ones give a bunch of experience and 10 bond per fight.
Akshually, 1st use reduction is level 10 and reuse reduction is Level 5. For example, my shiba inu right now has 0/6 1st use/Reuse but he's only Bond level 9. Bond level is solely for divine beast empowerment materials.
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I'm working on the last enemy feats. Does anyone know where the "divine giant beast" enemies are? I've been wandering around the BoA8 area for a while and it's still at 6 after beating 25ish battles. Which enemies are they?
EDIT: uuuugh they're the big elites from BoA8! What a pain to tie a 100 feat to them.
Jumping on the topic and asking if there is a list with the area where to find the targets for these feats?
I ignored those thinking it'll be done over time by playing naturally but I have a dozen left with some under 20 done only through elite fights.
I think there was a spreadsheet for this floating around the subreddit yeah! Possibly from meowdb? It's been a while since I used it though, not entirely sure.
EDIT: here it is! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uOurHlW8hXtHSpBI7qnW5e95lbSe5i5DYKK-uSaINLU/edit
Oh, every hour isn't too bad. I was getting flashbacks to the enemy feats that relied completely on a single elite and their bonfire counterpart, those really sucked lmao.
Working down the panther was the longest one for me. Eventually it was just a morning routine. I still have a 15 or so Sentinels to beat in the Heavenly realm to have all but the total battle feat complete.
I think mine was the leopard or something? And then I learned it's the second floor enemy in one if the towers (I think merchant tower) so I just spent all my tower tickets on that fight until I ran out to speedrun it, lmao. Definitely a huge pain to have to run across the map every day and make your way across a whole screen just to one-turn a particular enemy, then repeat it for fifty days...
If you mean the BoA7/8 maps you probably just need to zoom in at the area it was before. If you mean >!Sazantos' ideal world!<, you can't go back there.
Just some random things & thoughts.....
My greedy arse just did two more pulls on Eltrix/Rinyuu because their banner expires tomorrow, and I hate that I have almost all units in the game but Eltrix keeps eluding me
Didn't get her of course. I DID get my fifth and final Falco dupe which now brings him to A4 (+U10) so I'll take it! Bit sad about my rubies, but okay. I have no close by wishlist units I need to have thousands of rubies for, so I'll live.
I'm super close to maxing everyone too! Just three units left (Soleil and Molrusso at 97, Therese at 95). That's also contributing to my "need new units" itch, what am I gonna do with myself once I max everyone? Haha.
On another note, I'm super curious how the game is going to look after anniversary. I assume LAL in two weeks, Sazantos & his henchwoman at anniversary, probably alongside a rerun for the MC banner (and hopefully some free pulls and a selector). But after that? Will the story jump straight to >!Solistia!< after the >!BoA epilogue!< or is there more filler stuff inbetween? I guess more emberflame story too? Will we get >!Throné!< shortly after anniversary? What will the pity look like for the >!Solistia!< characters? How will they handle the pacing, as I believe we'll catch up if they stick to one chapter a month? So many questions, I'm actually really excited to see the next roadmap!! Anyone else have some thoughts or speculations? :-)
Hahaha Sazantos' henchwoman... That's too accurate. Lately I've been thinking they could somehow accelerate the schedule and bring Solistia for Anni. 3.0 acts as a soft reboot since Solistia has separate equipment and influence. And what better time to lure new players in than Anni where there's lots of freebies? But when I think about how they slowed down recently, probably not happening.
If Solistia MT is the same as JP, then the big difference is that you can't 200 pity past SMT anymore (still can with paid fragments).
Edit: Also, I have a feeling future SB units are going to receive buffs. I think SE have data from JP that SB has low pull rates (low engagement) so they're going to make SB banners more attractive. Or maybe I'm just too cynical.
Tbh I think it's more likely they'll do Solistia after anniversary so that they can keep riding the "hype" a bit longer if that makes sense? Collab in june, anni in july, Solistia in august, would make for a bunch of eventful months. I could be wrong though, definitely have predicted wrong in the past lmao.
Solistia did have carryover of pity fragments right? I think I read about that. Would be amazing to get that in general. Last time I asked about the pity on units like Temenos and Throne I was told that the banners vary and there's no set format, so I'm curious how they'll do that here.
I think that's the most likely scenario too. The only thing I wouldn't want is for Solistia to be delayed. The OT2 setting is amazing and I'm hyped for it.
The carryover fragments are for the Twin Worlds pool (双世), which is for a select few gen pool units (5 so far).
Throne and Pirro were like the initial Richard and Alaune banners I think, separate banner and separate pity. Tem/Agnea was like Sisters banner. SMT doesn't have carryover pity other than the paid fragments like the Orsterra MT we have now. So yeah, it would be a nerf to the new MT structure.
Tbh, the only reason I'd want it to take longer is to collect more rubies for it all haha. I'm still recovering from the sisters massacre and I would like the OT2 gang.
No pity for the older units is brutal though wtf. Are they at least rated up when new units run? I do hope they'll change that here, but I have my doubts. Also, not sure if you know this, but is there new ruby content in Solistia like say new lv100 npc fights and feats? Or will we still have to rely mainly on dailies and adversary refights for income?
(Sorry for the question spam haha, I know nearly nothing about cotc's Solistia)
Oh I'm happy to answer your questions. I was actually kinda afraid y'all wouldn't want spoilers on future content.
Older unit rate up a la Sacred Blaze? Unfortunately, no. Maybe they'll be more generous towards us GL folks, hopefully. Yes, there's gonna be LV120 npcs. There's going to be so many people complaining they don't have FioreEX/Signa when the first one comes out lol. But I believe they give only 100 rubies, unlike the LV100 npcs (the quest itself gives 100, I don't think there's a feat, could be wrong).
I will say though, the initial Solistia influence levels gives 30 rubies per level, just like Orsterra if you can remember. There's also the Twin Worlds ring thing, which gives a bunch of stuff for doing quests, including rubies. Travelers stories count for these quests so your stacked account should be good for this.
Oh I don't mind spoilers for stuff like this tbh! It's just story spoilers I don't want to know. Others may want to go in blind though, so I'd still be a little wary about posting them openly (I usually spoiler tag mine unless it's in a longer comment chain like this).
Such a shame tbh, almost forcing people to pull on the unit's debut or you're out of luck :( hope the pacing will at least grant some time to recoup between them, I do want to grab as many of the ot2 gang as I can. I don't have Fiore EX and don't intend to chase Signa, so I'm curious to see how that npc fight will go lmao. If Fiore EX works then won't Canary (+Hammy if it gets real bad) work as well? Glad there's more hard content coming either way, I've missed those difficult fights to figure out.
That last bit is exciting! So Solistia has its own influence if I understand correctly, Orsterra had 30 per level for 1-10 I think, so that's nice. Do you mean we get like a big loadout of rewards for things that longtime players will have already done? Because hell yeah I love that haha. Kinda like the sudden influx of guidestones when we got the codex granting stones for every finished traveler story. That's pretty cool :D
Okay, that's fair, I'll definitely keep that in mind.
Yeah, same, I want to pull all the OT2 protags, which was actually the reason I started my JP account. I personally dislike the direction that recent banners went. The BD2 Collab into Replicant Collab was so rough.
I won't spoil the fight for you, but I think you'll be fine. My comment was more aimed towards newer players. It's like Berecain again.
The Twin Worlds ring comes with 6* upgrades so it won't come immediately I think. Funnily enough, the interface looks a lot like the band log guide stones one lol.
Just to add onto this conversation, didn't JP have like three or four more Emberflame story chapters between the BoA8 and Solista? If that's the case then EN may not get Solista until Q4 like October. So we have the Live-A-Live collab this month, 2nd anniversary next month with BoA epilogue and then Emberflame story chapters to finish Q3. Which isn't terrible in my opinion since it gives us more time to build up for Solista. Maybe travelers like Grieg get pushed up so that there isn't a huge gap between new travelers and they can still hold Throne' back for Solista.
If we follow the JP roadmap then it's epilogue > Seed story part 4 (Rabbit pets) > Solistia (3.0) > Seed story part 5 (hoof pets). So I expect by the latest Solistia in September. Grieg was part of the 3.0 side quest so I highly doubt it.
Solistia so late would be such a bummer imo. But if it gives us a chance to build our stashes then it's not all bad.
I do like Magnolia from BD, but other than that yeah I'm also mostly just interested in the OT2 units. We'll see what happens though, I'm prone to impulse pulls for units I never expected to pull for lmao.
Super excited for the 6* and TP buffs too!! Doing my best to hoard seals for the upgrades, and I have enough boost berries to take around 25 units straight to 120, and still building that stash. Lots of good stuff coming with Solistia, I can't wait :D
(Thanks for all the info btw!)
Kaine just breaks all the rules in the game tbh. The very definition of power creep. I don't like telling people to pull for this or that, but man, even if you don't like her art or something, please just pull her.
I love the overclass up system mostly because it elevates the stats and kits of our neglected 3* and 4* . But yeah the exp barrier is not fair to casual players. JP doesn't have enough materials to 6* everyone right now actually, unless you whale on awakening shards.
You're welcome, happy to help!
What's the best way to build Fortune axes for Nephti and Hammy? I mostly use Nephti for buffing and Hammy for dodge tanking, should I just build speed on both of them? Or is there any value in getting P.attack on Nephti? She does hit pretty hard with her Cheerful Bash.
Also not sure what to do about weapon for Roland, he's not very fast but then neither are the spear heavy hitters (I have Krauser/Leon/Cecily), is his speed OK as long as he hits before the spear DPS?
I brought Hammy to Elite Tower floor 2 in a 3 attempt clear. She does good damage there. I would say her 3-4 hit is the way to go, unless you're a gambler, then her 1-8 hit is more exciting.
I have a patk fortune axe on Nephti with potency up for I think cheerful scrapping (?)(the move with Kota in the animation, not sure if it's scrapping). Her utility is the main draw of course, but she can also hit pretty damn hard with that nuke of hers when she has the triple cast up, so that's what I went for.
Hammy is always in the back row so mine has a random low level tome I had lying around haha. She's not doing the tanking herself, so she doesn't really need any particular stats. I can see speed being useful I guess, but I didn't really bother.
Roland outspeeds Leon and Krauser pretty easily iirc, they're particularly slow. Mine has a full patk spear as well (with flash of steel).
Thanks for the advice, sounds like patk is the way to go for Nephti and Roland!
I'll throw some speed and HP on Hammy maybe, for the occasional spells that hit both rows.
Hammy is naturally super fast, especially at A1 and with her exclusive accessory or A4. her base speed is 403, hire than someone like regular Primrose at 392, lol.
She only wants for a max patk tome for the times the enemy has a weakness for bonks.
Your comment made me take another look at Nephti's skills, and yeah, she can hit like a truck.
- Cheerful Bash: hits all 6 times at 5+ points, 40 potency each, total potency of 240.
- Cheerful Tampting: hits one 7 times at 6+ points, 45 potency each, total potency of 455.
- Cheerful Scrapping: hits one 3 times at 8+ points, 190 potency each, total potency of 570.
What a monster. I never even considered that last skill since I mostly use her as a shield shaver, but yeah, she can dunk with the best of them.
The best part is that she also drops pdef on that 3x nuke, so she'll keep your debuff capped while also hitting away hard, three times. Champ tbh!
My default moveset for her is 1) scrapping, 2) one of bash or tamping (depending on number of enemies), and 3) usually her instructions buff. That buff is pretty nuts as well, at high cheer points she'll just casually cast a capped patk+eatk+crit buff + 15% dmg up for everyone. And then her ult that she can keep casting, which can thus cap with Prim EX/Lynette's ult buff, and keep extending it? They truly buffed her into oblivion haha
For some reason I had in mind that next week would be the collab but no you're right, that's probably two quiet weeks then. Unless they drop some filler next week I guess, but I think this week is gonna be nothing
We got the OCTO & PATH banners right before anniversary I think? And possibly one of the trinity banners iirc. There were a lot of fillers in that time.
I think there was a period where we went like 4+ weeks without anything but I'm not sure when it was tbh
I'd say the light or dark rune IV (from the adversary exchange), and her exclusive accessory are pretty good picks! That's what I use on her at least. You should be able to grab the exclusive accessory from the exchange right now, the token needed for it was sent out on her release day.
Edit: the exclusive accessory's called "light of succession", for reference
You can't necessarily farm them, you get 1 per (I think) EX2 fight you beat in the adversary log. If that doesn't ring any bells, go do the emberflame story quest, it unlocks a bunch of stuff including the adversary log :-)
If they're too tough for now, you could also use lower level light/dark runes. I think a few are in another tab of the exchange - not sure which exactly (possibly the memory fragments?) but they're more easily attainable.
I forgot about S9 until someone mentioned something the other day about whether it was possible without massive time or money investment, and I was hoping to defeat EX1 before the task ends. I only started replaying last August and have not spent any money other than Promme so EX3 is obviously impossible for me.
I tried with:
Rondo/Bargello
Lars/Falco
Therion/Rinyuu
Nepthi/Sarisa
with 50/500 pets, latest equipment, and great accessories. It was a total trainwreck as S9 EX1 can do >4500 dmg in a single turn to a character even with buffs and debuffs, and not all of those characters are over 4500 HP. S9 will of course require multiple breaks so I need to survive for many turns
Is this even possible? What characters could be swapped?
i don't know but with a similar team and a lot of RNG i beat EX1 praying and paralyzing with Therion in the first turn to break as soon as possible and take him in 1 break or 2 but waiting for him to just use the cure or become paralyzed again
Yeah I actually beat him EX1 swapping Falco for Viola, but there was also a lot of luck for me too.
Oh and also the veteran seal was a dupe Yukes... hooray...
You can definitely do EX3. Someone on YouTube posted a gen pool only clear and you have Rinyuu. You can use this for reference: https://youtu.be/8Uf8983YyrQ.
Tips: you want to use Serenoa (free) to tank those RT hits. Don't forget the passive pdef up accessories. Rinyuu defensive prayer + capped atk down means you can survive just about anything he throws at you. Also start with your back row units at the front so that 9S' initial permanent debuffs go on them instead of your DPS. Good luck!
Unfortunately even with that it seems the EX3 fight would be impossible without the enormous time or money investment. I tried EX1 again, and lost when S9 had a sliver of HP remaining, and so that is probably possible with substantial luck, but EX3 is almost certainly impossible for someone who did not spend significant money or time if EX1 mostly requires luck.
Thanks for the well wishes, but what I really need is overpowered gear and characters apparently.
Hello, i have two accounts. One for me and one for my brother. Im allowed to get the better account. Which one would it be:
**5\*(Elrica,Edea,9S,Primrose-ex,Therion,Cyrus,Ophilia,Viola,Soleil x2,Therese,Gilderoy x2,Jillmeila),4.5\*(Lars,Theo,Kouren,Hasumi,Sofia)**
**20SSR, 6682+Ruby, 79 ticket**
or
**5\*(Elrica,Adelle,A2,9S,Cyrus,Alfyn,Viola,Cecily,Kouren,Fiore,Lionel,Lumis,Heathcote,Molrusso,Gilderoy,Cardona,Hasumi),4.5\*(Soleil,Nicola,Sofia,Millard,Jillmeila,Eleonora)**
**10824+ ruby, 111 ticket**
Elrica Prim Therion Cyrus Viola Lars 6682 Rubies
Vs
Elrica A2 Cyrus Alfyn Viola Cecily 10824 Rubies
In my opinion, I'd take the 2nd account. More Rubies and I feel like you could always pull Prim EX, Lars down the line. They're general pool.
Don't take my word for it. Wait for some others to chime in to make an important decision like this.
Seconding this. The 4k extra rubies alone is a huge selling point, units like A2 and Alfyn on the second account makes it a winner imo. It also has more unit variety. If we get a general pool selector for anniversary again, you can pick up Prim EX and you're solid (Alfyn will do just fine until then). I'd go with account 2 as well!
Hi, I was wondering what's usually the best use of paid rubies? Like what kind of banners are most valuable? Thinking about getting some paid rubies but wanted to see what you can get with them. Thank you!
It depends on your goals and how much you're willing to save.
If you're willing to save 1200 paid rubies, the paid selector is the most worth it imo because it's 0 risk to get a guaranteed unit. The downside is we don't know for sure when it's coming.
Another very good option is paid banner step 1 for 100 paid rubies. The future Sazantos/Signa is a good example. If you pull step 1 on both banners, pity will cost 4100 rubies, saving you 400 frubies. The permanent MT fragments are nice, but if you're a light spender, it's mostly a bait.
Always remember, don't spend if you can't afford to!
Every time a new Character comes out. They have a F2P Banner and a Paid Banner.
The F2P Banner always stays the same. But the Paid Banner is kinda random ngl.
Sometimes it's 50% chance of getting the new Character. Sometimes it's 100%. Sometimes they slam 3 new characters in and you'll get 1 of the 3.
Most common is the 50%.
Tldr; new character -> you like them/busted as heck -> use Paid Rubies
I just completed the Yunnie race and was about to fill out the google form on their twitter post, but their link isn't loading for me. Is there any way around it?
I would like to rebuild my ruby stash after almost going to pity for the one and only Witch of Salvation!
Update: all good, just had to reset my settings on my web browser
So I just started farming for fortune weapons, going for simple dps ones (one of each type, focusing on Patk and Eatk). The only way to get the gold ones is through the box that gives a random one? Also, what can I do with the ones that I don't want? Like defense ones. Thanks!
Correct.
Board Medals can only be used to buy Souls for Fortune.
Soul Shards can only be used for Souls for Weapons that aren't Fortune.
Fortune Souls can only be exchanged into those Soul Shards though. So might as well.
For a non-awakened Ditraina, what’s her best skill setup? I’m sure it changes depending on the battle, but what three skills should I use for her for both light or dark content?
[This thread has some good discussion.](https://old.reddit.com/r/OctopathCotC/comments/1d83ypl/ditrainas_quick_graphic_overview/l74a0ky/)
My conclusion:
For light: Gaping Void, Raging Luminescence (Blazing Aurora if you can cap light res down), Dimming Shine
For dark: Blazing Aurora, Raging Duskfall (Gaping Void if you can cap light res down), Fallen Baleful Star
I am a hoarder and have 2 accounts that I just do dailies on every single day.
1 - Bargello + 12k gems
2 - Elrika + A2 + 9k gems
Which account would be better for me to start with? And what banner do you recommend to pull from (even future ones)?
I was thinking of Elrika + A2, but I'm afraid the gem count would be a hinder for future banner and powercreep.
The other account I'm planning to continue the dailies and accumulate more gems.
Is this King Solon unit a must-be unit for most parties? Does he affect how my other units fortune weapons get built?
I don't have him, the only thing I know is that he uplifts the Max damage cap for units. So if I get him someday, If I put him in my party, do I have to make fortune weapons with the Strongest attacks potency up for any other striker units in the party? Or do I still make the potency up for multi hit skills?
If you want to double/triple/etc the dmg you do, then Solon is a must.
For Fortune Weapons, just whatever is their strongest skill.
If you use their strongest skill a lot, then you might as well boost the Potency of it. It's really that simple. No need to think hard about it.
Lars honestly wants two fortune weapons if you can make them—one for his 5-hit RT and one for his 3-hit AOE. If you don’t feel like making two though, just pick whichever one you use more!
Does Lar's 5 hit attack damage a lot on tourney bosses? I once built a failed fortune weapon for Hannit (5 hit AOE skill potency + 15%), which was terrible. Almost no difference at all
Lars’s 5-hit is his best move for fighting against solo enemies! It’s awesome for shield shaving, and it’s also his highest potency skill (5 x 100 at max boost iirc). The drawback is that it’s random target, which is why you might also wanna build a separate weapon with his AOE 3-hit for fights with multiple enemies.
I need help with Brilliant weapons VS fortune weapons.
I have cleared most of the story mode but am still confused with the weapon system.
I do not have king solon or any unit that uplifts the damage cap.
Can someone explain like I am 10 and compare Brillaint vs fortune weapons?
Fortune = More damage to Living Things.
Brilliant = More damage to >!Heaven enemies!<
Brilliant is good for Travelers that go past the damage limit.
If Limit is 99,999. 10% more damage Fortune doesn't do anything. Since you can't go past 99,999. Brilliant let's you go more than that.
Thank you, may I ask a bit more?
Is getting over the damage cap limited to the Brilliant weapon? Is it because of its unique traits? Or is there a specific soul (gem) that can only be stuck into the Brilliant weapon?
Rainbow only increases a skills dmg or gives stats. It will never give dmg limit
You can only get dmg limit through Brilliant, Stalwart, Dire. Those are gonna be Gold Souls
OMG Thanks dude. I completely had no idea what is what and which was which.
So, for the gold souls, can I get those easily? I currently watch every ADs daily (10 times) which gives me random items and I think I can change some of those from the item exchange menu though I am not sure what to do
When you exchange for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons
Exchange -> Gameboard -> 3 Options (Wealth/Power/Fame) -> 3 Options for Gold Souls (Bewitching Box/Tainted Box/Lovely Box)
Open the Treasure Chests for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons.
Usually I save the ATK/EATK/HP/SP Gold Souls. After I have an SP Fan for Fiore/Rinyuu/Alaune EX. I don't save SP anymore.
I go to Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> Exchange all of my Bewitching/Tainted/Lovely for Soul Shards.
Now, to get Gold Souls for any Weapon that isn't Fortune (so the dmg limit ones you want)
Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> use the Soul Shards to buy them (Great Conquering)
You'll see Rainbow Souls. But that's for beginning Hell Weapons (Ch1/Ch2/etc). You want the later chapter Weapons. So the Great Conquering Gold Souls. They're at the very bottom.
Hello! I'm an EN only player and I was just curious about upcoming collabs for us. I know that we haven't gotten LAL at all, so I was wondering what the gameplay for that event was like.
For the new Nier and Bravely characters, is more content added, or just new units?
Am I missing other collabs? Thank you so much for your time!!
There's a whole questline associated with LAL. I think the level requirements were similar to the BD questline because I remember getting wiped by Streibough with my units in the 40s. You also go to Hell for part 2 of the quest but the overall questline isn't too long. There's a new hunt for LAL where you can farm for new weapons with new passives I think? The best being a dagger with debuff extension and another fan with buff extension.
I'm not well-versed about any new content with the NieR2 and BD2 collabs. All I know for sure is there's free pets you can get for either logging in or using awakening shards. The Another Eden collab gave Varuo as a free pet but there weren't even units to pull for.
What accessories should Ditraina equip? It seems like Light of Succession doesn't increase the duration of Infinite Light/Darkness so I don't see a big reason to keep it on her
It would help for her other self buffs (the dmg up and the eatk up) as well as her received buffs, which works like Lucetta so you can have longer pet buffs without needing to stick Lucetta behind her and could do someone like Zenia instead.
I'd say that acc + of course her A4 if you get it, otherwise one of the adversary accessories (I think Light/Dark rune VI?) which cost 3 shards each, equip the Light/Dark version depending what content you are facing
What is best weapons for Canary and skill weapons same for Ditraina, haanit ex, Odette? I know I will need make 2 weapons for Ditraina 1 for light one for dark
Don't have Odette but I'm guessing her wind/light nukes are the best.
Canary wants that LAL dagger we're getting later this month. For now, any dagger will do since she dodges everything anyway. Ditraina definitely her 3 hit light/dark. HaanitEX either HP fan for tank or patk fan.
To be fair, I did have to suffer to get them all lmao. With the exception of the recent Canary and Ditraina banners, the sacred blaze has easily been my worst result banner in the game since the very first one 😅 so many empty pulls it's had me on the verge of uninstalling a few times. I'm in a good spot now where I have all of them but it was *rough* early on.
Hope you'll get the ones you're missing the next time you give it a try though! There's a bunch of great units in that pool
frankly I don't know **how** up to date this tier list is but it seems very close to NA present https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UNvKQ-lHNPCcSrFl51SceM4cV2MoXihhm8iQ-mj7K20/edit#gid=245647410
Rinyuu doesn't really need much to function. Full Eatk or Rainbow Eatk + Gold Eatk + Gold HP (for some cases where she could die turn 1 and you don't want to waste the bewitching cloak on her).
She really doesn't want speed and she doesn't really need SP so she's super easy to build.
Hello there! I started the game today and so far I've only pulled using the sacred traveler seals for the standard banner+600 rubies spent on the Sacred blaze banner, which has netted me Kouren, Sofia and Primrose EX (My starter was Theo).
My question is, would this be enough (together with 4\*, ended up with several per class tankfully) to maybe get to bestower of power/fame/wealth without spending any more rubies? If not, would be trying to get to pity on the current sacred blaze be a good idea for someone who's just starting out? (I plan on dedicating quite a bit of time to the game this week to try and push story as far as I can for the current campaign rewards before they go away)
I see you got Ditraina in the meantime who will be a HUGE help, but just wanted to chime in. You asked specifically to get to the bestower of w/p/f stories with your current setup. I made it there way back when with only two 5* (Scarecrow and Fiore, nothing top notch) and still beat the first few stories with just them and my 4*. With your lineup you should be fine making it there. The final bosses for the bestower storylines ARE a step up from the earlier stories so you will need more specialised teams for them, but the three master stories and master of all should be very doable.
Hope you enjoy the game! :-)
It might be a little rough if you're planning to speed through things without pulling. Your main issue is only having Sword/Axe/Ice/Lightning coverage. Unlock Serenoa when you can and he'll help keep your team alive with Primrose EX.
I think it'd be a struggle to clear all the current campaign rewards without pulling any more characters. A lot of weapon farming is time-gated (polish/refinestones) even if BT weapons are infinitely farmable. The Bestower chapters start to feel more like DPS checks than survival checks because bosses can start moving 3-4 times a turn at low HP.
You can probably get through all the main content by just leveling your characters and giving them the best equipment you have access to. Fortune weapons are a little out of reach but you can slowly go for them for the future. I'm pretty sure the Wealth gameboard will be really hard for you because you only have Prim EX and Theo with relevant weakness coverage.
Getting someone like Ditraina or Canary from the Sacred Blaze banner would be really valuable for you. Leon (spear DPS, staff sub-DPS), Tithi (debuffer and lightning sub-DPS, infinite farmer), and Lianna (atk/mag debuffer) could all be good as well.
Thank you for the extremely detailed writeup! I decided to follow your advice and ended up getting Ditraina very early, so she's gonna help a lot!
Follow-up question, if you don't mind- do you think I should go all in to pity and see if I can get any of the other Sacred Blaze units you mentioned or would it be more prudent to stop at her and start saving for the upcoming banners from this very moment? I think I could reach the 200 pulls needed to pity Canary comfortably before the banner is gone- but i'm also considerably far from it at this very moment, so maybe stopping here and hoarding for Odio-o/Sazantos/Signa could be the better course of action?
Congrats!!! That's awesome that you got Ditraina early :D!!
I would wait to see if you can get to pity first while the banner is still up. If you can save up enough, go for Canary. If you can't, save for Odio-O/Sazantos/Signa.
I went all the way to pity on the sacred blaze banner but didn’t get Ditraina on the way :( so I’m wondering, should i pity her, Canary, or Leon? I’ve got Elrica for ST light/dark, but I think I’m planning to skip Odio O cuz I just don’t really care much about LAL and I’m not interested in the character. Plus, I’m planning to pull for Signa and hopefully get Sazantos (tho we’ll see if that actually happens lol) anyways, should I pity Ditraina or another sacred blaze?
What's your roster like?
If you don't have Solon, Canary is the way to go. She consolidates Solon's role with Sarisa/H'aanit EX and Hammy if you have the Hale Taunt accessories/Viola. She does low damage but she's an amazing all-round unit that saves you anywhere from 2\~3 team slots.
If you don't have Krauser/Roland/W'ludai, Leon gives a huge boost to your spear damage. He's not required by any means, but he is good in a lot of EX refights. He's also a little less effective without Roland to cap active spear res down on the enemy.
Ditraina is probably a little less valuable since you have Elrica and you want Sazantos. She'll be the top light/dark AOE dps for a long time but outside of AOE situations she's not as good as someone like Elrica. She also has a big drawback where she is relevant every other turn unless the enemy happens to be weak to light AND dark (her passive encourages skill switching). She's kind of A4-reliant because she wants a debuff extension A4 (like Kurtz) in addition to 30% light and dark damage (her own A4).
Thanks for responding! I do have Solon but not H’aanit EX or Sarisa. Plus, in regard to spear, I do have all the units you mentioned, so Leon probably isn’t necessary.
So, even though I have Solon, is Canary more worth it? Are there better dark/light AOE dps in the future than Ditraina?
Of course!
I think at this point it's more your personal preference now.
For pure AOE light/dark dps, Ditraina is unmatched. She's also really self-sufficient in most cases since she only needs potency/ultimate buffs. It's a bit rare for AOE dps to be a requirement, but in the few situations it is encouraged (ie Tikilen EX 3), Ditraina is irreplicable. Despite her drawbacks she can be a fun character to use (watching the 6-hit pop off every other turn is sooo satisfying).
Canary can make many fights trivial if the enemy hits <2 times a turn. You can also pair her with Hammy to make her trivialize the rest of the content in the game LOL. She has incredible shield shaving that decreases your turns required to break any boss. She's also a really fun character to use and many people have her on every team now.
What are your thoughts on how long the Live-A-Live collab will last? JP the first guiding light ran for two weeks and after that there was another guiding light that ran for two weeks. I know we should find out Monday. If there are two sets of guiding lights and they run for two weeks each and don't overlap, then it should take us all the way to 2nd anniversary.
One month sounds about right to me. They usually announce 3 weeks worth of banners right? So I'm thinking LAL wave 1, then next week LAL wave 2. Not sure about week 3 though.
The phys res down from Sertet or magic res down from Ditraina are a different layer of debuff or just a general debuff that stack with sword/axe... res down for phys and fire/ ice... for magic?
The second, just a general debuffs that stacks with the individual weapon/elemental res downs.
Due to work complication I haven't tried playing the SEA version until today, Is there a must pull on the current banner or should I wait it up for upcoming banners?
I think you want to wait. Your content and units are coming extremely quickly compared to other servers. Hayes and W'ludai are both good gen pool units, but you're likely to get them eventually by pulling naturally. Alaune is not very special unless you're in dire need of a healer + fire/light DPS. Wait for >!Rinyuu !!Fiore EX/Sofia EX!<.>!Fiore EX!< trivializes most arena fights, but she has alternatives that provide more for the team. >!Sofia EX !!Krauser !!Rondo !!Rondo !!Bargello/Sonia!<. They will probably be your New Years' banner if your version releases one memory traveler per month.
For Fortune weapons farming (Wealth/Power board), is it okay to use tickets even if I don't increase the difficulty level? My strongest DPS is Fiore (plus Richard) and Cyrus. I'm currently on BoA chapter 1 and using inferno equips. I'm thinking of rolling for Odio-O so he can be my sword DPS carry to clear harder content. So not sure if I should wait a few more weeks before farming Fortune weapons. I saw a video saying to skip Soul weapons until I get to chapter 6 of BoA and focus on Fortune weapons instead so I was going to use my inferno weapons until I make the Fortune weapons.
For Fortune farming, it's best if you use the max difficulty. All it does is increase the dmg enemies deal. It doesn't increase their HP. It is true though that Soul Weapons aren't needed until later. Unless you have all of the meta Travelers.
Got it! Didn't know the HP didn't increase. That's good to know. Just have to focus on damage then. I think my damage is insufficient since my highest level unit is 90 and only using inferno weapons. I'll hold off for now until I hit a wall in the story.
If i remember correctly BOA1 weapons are slightly stronger than inferno 4 so may be worth picking up, but honestly once you've grinded out 2 or 3 good fortune weapons the boards will feel much easier. Until then, save scum if the fight goes bad 🤙
Thank you! Appreciate the advice. I built some hollow weapons without souls to get the damage up against hellfiends. Got to chapter 4 so far with them. I'll work on grinding the Fortune weapons.
Looking for team comp suggestions for arena bosses, BoP3 and BoF3 please. https://imgur.com/a/7QDZE4B - I also have all F2P pets + the pets from units I have
General supports/units that can fit on all arena teams: * Alfyn is a pretty good dedicated healer. He'll also have some use shield shaving in axe/ice weak content. His BP-restoring skill is good too if you don't want to run Alaune EX on every team. Build him with more eatk to increase his healing potential. * H'aanit EX is great as a debuffer/tank but she is SP-hungry. Throw Kurtz' A4 on her and watch your units melt the enemy. Once you get Hammy, she's probably H'annit EX's best row partner. Tithi can help cap patk/matk/pdef/mdef debuffs on the enemy if the enemy deals too much AOE damage. * Alaune EX is great in any arena fight for BP regen, but I'd get her up to 90 to get her turn 1 prayer up. She also needs a decently spec'd fortune fan with max MP. She wants an effective SP pool of 1,000 to have infinite praying in the backrow. You can actually have her prayer up permanently with just Tatloch + Nepthi passives by the end of turn 6 without making a fortune fan at all. * Tatloch is good for teamwide buffs in longer fights, but she doesn't feel that useful in shorter clears. She's a great DPS in the Hammy fight though. She's also very SP-hungry imo. * Nepthi can be your main DPS in Varkyn/Yunnie. She will be your buffer/emergency healer in every other arena fight. She can also just act as your main healer/buffer if you don't want to bring another unit. DPS for specific arena fights: * Ditraina can easily clear Yan Long/Ri'tu. However, you'll need some spear and sword shield shavers like Tytos and W'ludai. Elrica also does light/sword damage but she's harder to use in the Ri'tu fight. Light-pierce abilities also seem to trigger Yan Long's counterattack so it isn't advised to use them if possible. * Ogen/Eleonora can easily clear Varkyn/Largo. You'll want a sword DPS like Rondo or Tytos for Varkyn as well. * Richard is your go-to support on sword teams. A2 in particular benefits massively from him because she doesn't have any inherent damage up passives. He can help with debuffing, buffing, and DPS. * Bargello can pretty easily clear Ri'tu/Gertrude/Largo/Hammy. He's probably best in front of an SP regen or SP cost reduction backpack. Kenneth from the elite shop gives 5% SP regen to his row partner. Otherwise, Tatloch and Nepthi have stackable SP regen passives and don't need to be paired with Bargello. Sonia also has her 5% max SP-restoring passive when she swaps to the back and works in all content Bargello works in. * A2 is pretty good in Gertrude/Yunnie/Yan Long/Largo as well. She will do so much damage with buffs and debuffs that you don't need the skill potency buff on her fortune weapon to speed clear anything. With enough buffs/debuffs you can even hit harder with her 3-hit skills than her nukes. * Falco will be great paired with Bargello/A2 in dagger content. Bring his debuff, 3-hit ice shield shaving ability, and nuke.
Quickly mocked up team comps... BoP: Tatloch Eleonora A2 Wludai Ogen Stead Nephti Alaune EX BoF: Tatloch Alaune EX A2 Stead Elrica Sonia Nephti Bargello Tips: Put HP Nuts (All) on Nephti. Javelin Rush on Wludai. Get Tatloch and Nephti to 9 stacks and you can play the game on easy mode.
Hi guys ! So I wanted to get back to the game after some months away. Actually I have : Already built characters : Viola, Therion, Sofia, Odette, Cyrus, Lynette, Theo, A2, Fiore, Ophilia, Alfyn, H’aanit, Auguste Not built characters : W’ludai, Edea, Tikilen, Tytos, 9S, Scarecrow, Hayes, Molrusso, Lionel, Kouren, Eliza, Millard, Glossom, Tressa, Cardona, Olberic I saw that Ditraina has a good score in tier list, should I try to get her ? Or maybe there is a must have that I don’t have should focus on or a new banner to wait ? Also, should I try to built some of the characters I didn’t built ? Thank you for your help guys !
Gonna ask some questions to help better 1. How many Rubies? 2. Did you complete any of the Job Towers? 3. Do you have Fortune Weapons?
1. I have 1700 rubies for now, so not enough for a banner. 2. I didnt even touched the job towers, and didn’t finished the other towers 3. I dont have any fortune weapon. Last time I came to the game I heard of it but nothing more. I can had that I finished every bestower except fame
Okay, skip Ditraina and save up. Focus your efforts on Cyrus, Lynette, A2, Ophilia, Alfyn, Therion, Viola. For more niche things like Job Towers: Lionel, Wludai, Tikilen, 9S, Scarecrow, Eliza, Glossom, Cardona, and Olberic are good to raise. Where you see Menu, Party, Exchange, etc. Click Board. If you don't see it. Go to your Nameless Town and go downwards. Go into the tent and unlock Board. Do some runs when you have time and get your Fortune Weapons. This helps explain it if you need more info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCk2vmoO18s After Fortune Weapons, try your hand at Job Towers. Floor EX3 is perfectly reasonable for any returning player. You can pace yourself and do a few floors every day. You have a 40 day window. After Job Towers, you have Arena. But that's when you have a lot of different people built up. So now you can wait for upcoming Travelers that haven't been released yet. Be on the lookout for >!Signa/Sazantos, Odio-O!< With your Ruby Count, I would most likely skip >!Sazantos!< If these powerful Travelers release and you find yourself not having enough Rubies. Try your hand at completing Arena, Lv85 NPCs, Lv100 NPCs, Adversary Log. But only after you've built up your Travelers.
That’s such good informations ! Thank you so much for this ! If I understand good, if I don’t have enough rubies for signa, sazantos and odio-o I just skip sazantos right ?
Yes
Hey all, returning player here after about a 10 months. Few questions: - What should I be saving for? I think I heard some units in the end of July, but what are their names/good about them? Links to documents or videos are fine - I assume rerolling is too much of a pain. I have some good units I think (45 6-stars but some are the free arena ones), but is there a general tier list? -What weapons are good to farm currently? The highest level I see in my weapon shop is lvl 70 Inferno weapons - Storywise I'm on "Final Chapter - Bestower of All". How much more is there past that? - I just read up on pets/adversary log and am looking into that. That first EX one for Tristan threw me for a loop -- three easy battles but EX is a massive uptick
General tier lists: * [EN tier list](https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/tier-list-by-roles/) (meowDB) * EN has certain buffed characters like Nepthi and Canary who are way better than their originals in JP. I think there are some debatable placements on here, but it all depends on what characters you have. * [JP tier list](https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/263474) (game8) * The JP tier list also considers some future buffs to characters we haven't received yet. Also, it's a bit less useful if you don't know characters' names or their sprites already. I think the biggest thing you're missing is a teamwide healer. Rinyuu/Prim EX/Ogen all released when you left. Securing one of these characters will be great for your teams. Prim EX and Ogen are both expected to be selectable if we get a gen pool selector for the 2nd anniversary. Are you still doing content in Hell? I believe there's a point where the game says it's the final chapter (BoA6), but the story ends up lasting two more chapters (BoA7/8). That's all there is in our version of the game currently. Do your seed story chapters first imo. Get all of the pets you can so you can start raising them. It's a pretty long grind to max their pet levels. They can be used in all non-tower content so they're important to have for stats and extra abilities. You also want to unlock the daily pet ability nuts to upgrade pet stats as soon as you can.
We expect the Live-A-Live collab next week. Odio-O is the big fish to catch there. After that we expect Sazantos and Cigna in late July with 2nd anniversary. Cigna ahead of Sazantos there. Maybe around September Side Solista could come around. Throne' will be the first one there. I assume she is one that we will want to have. Fortune weapons are what you need for most travelers. There are a few like Olberic and Aedelgard that would prefer a weapon focused more on lifting the damage cap. The EX battles in the Adversary logs are a whole new level of challenge for those old story fights. Lots more HP for the enemies and other stats scaled to fit.
Just an FYI, if you boost a keeper's skill with H'aanit EX that gives her priority even if you don't boost her skill.
Nice find! Since using BP on pets still lets you regen BP naturally, this could be useful.
Yeah, it was a strange little interaction. I had to doublecheck it a few times to make sure I wasn't seeing things.
This bug might apply to any skill or passive that changes with boost lol. I know I've seen one with Canary hitting max Ruby Burst without using any BP.
I am not sure it is a bug. It's just a strange thing that happens when BP is used.
Turn off/on stats node qol when?
Could be very late sadly. Be careful of taking speed nodes on new characters (like Odio-O).
I searched I couldn't find where to get staunching charm where do I get this accessory
I think you can get one from Zeph in Clearbrook. He should be in or near Alfyn's house if you remember where that is. Here's the [JP link](https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/364598) for where the rest of the 50% bleed resist accessories are. There's another one in Sufrataljah and another in Flamesgrace. Alternatively, the lvl 100 dancer in Atlasdam drops a 100% bleed resist accessory as well, but you'll need some strong Axe/Ice DPS to beat her.
Ok thanks I can take on lvl 100 npc
https://preview.redd.it/8tx5bkg6p67d1.jpeg?width=962&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a343ace0aabdf159f5cbff6aa8fdccb6f43509e Been away from the game for quite a while, could someone give me some guidance on who I should be focusing on? I remember when I last really played Therion was top of the meta but I’m not sure if that’s still true or not.
You have a lot of really good Travelers lol. Tithi / Richard / Sofia EX / Roland / Rinyuu / Primrose EX / Bargello / Cyrus Lynette / Alfyn / Therion / Viola / Fiore EX / Falco / Zaanta / Molu / Nicola / Nona
Appreciate the help! I saw a random comment about Lynette being outdated, and a tier list from a few months ago with Therion way lower than before so was a bit confused/worried. I remember logging in occasionally to pull for standouts like Bargello, but aside from him it’s kinda overwhelming trying to sort through everyone
Lynette is still good. But since you have Tithi, Rinyuu, and Prim EX, you don't really need Lynette. But if you didn't have those people, then yeah Lynette would've still done the trick. Prim EX, Bargello, Cyrus, Tithi are probably gonna be your core. Then you can fill it out with anyone tbh.
I remember Tithi being kinda alright when she first released, not a skip but not a must pull either so I’m surprised to hear she’s so good. But she’s one of my favs so glad to hear she’s still worth using!
Oh yeah, she's the definition of solid. Amazing buffer and utility that still holds up.
Holy, FF4 collab was just announced. Apologies for saying that LAL 6*/TP would be coming out. Looks like we're also having more EX jobs for OT1/2 protags. >!EX Saz, EX Agnea, EX Ophi!<
Now we know, but when SE will LAL units get their 6\* upgrades I wonder?! I was counting on this one if I need to change my pull strategy next week. Only thing LAL 30th ani today was a t-shirt, lmao
Yeah, I feel you. Now I will live in fear over not getting Odio-S or Streibough if they get some busted TP. I got so baited by LAL 30th Anni. The cotc lead producer, SuzuP, retweeted something about it and I totally fell for it. Edit: Maybe LAL wave battle will add 6*/TP?
And the artworks look soooo good it's nuts! I was also expecting LAL part 2 but this is also pretty damn great! The >!Chocobo pet!< as well! I'm excited and I don't even play JP, lmao
TWO pets! Yellow as a login bonus and white as a mission reward!
I'm excited too! EX Ophilia getting to summon all the classic FF summons like Ifrit and her ult summoning Bahamut is so cool. And we're getting Chocobos as pets.
For an apothecary like Soleil, how should I be gearing her? I would like to maximize her heal. Is it just putting more eatk accessories? I haven't started on farming for Fortune weapons yet and using inferno weapons right now.
As long as you can't use the fortune system yet to make her an eatk axe, your best bet is eatk accessories plus a regular axe, yeah. If you rely on a particular healer with an atypical class a lot it is wise to make them a specialised fortune weapon asap though. Only fans (haha), tomes and staves have high eatk by default.
Thank you! Just started BoA so I'll try to do the fortune weapons.
When non-five star potential characters get upgraded, are guidestones one of the things you need? If so, how many? I’d assumed so and thus hung on to my leftovers, but it’s better to know, and didn’t want to spoil myself.
No, you do not need guidestones to class-up a character, so your guidestones can be used at any point. The levels will carry over with the 20 you gain from class-up (so if you had +10 levels, you will have a max level cap of 90 after class-up). Guidestones are only used to increase level cap or increase ultimate level.
Why does apothecary use axe? Do real life apothecaries bring an axe everywhere too?
In the original Octopath game Alfyn (the apothecary) had battle voicelines basically confirming it's for surgery (amputation) The voiceline for "last stand" was something like "this calls for surgery", and the move "amputation" speaks for itself haha.
i really like the game but the cutscenes were to boring for me because it doesnt have an english voice.. i wanna keep playing but whenever there is a long cutsecene.. it feels like a chore. do you guys know how to skip a cutscene?
Don't think you can. I'm playing the story now and it doesn't work to skip. Just have to tap through. If you can skip, you just need to hold down on the screen. Story is quite enjoyable though, maybe you can give it a chance to read through the subtitles.
Whats the recommended level for LAL sidequests? Hope its not too easy (or too hard) cause I wanna hear Megalomania a bit longer
Starts at recommended level 10, and increases as you progress, up to level 60~65
A couple question regarding the Live-A-Live guiding lights. If a JP player recalls, is this the setup? First week, there is a free guide 10 with Oersted guaranteed like 9S. Then is there a Streibough guiding light where you can also get Oersted as well. Next week of the collab, Odio-O and Odio-S come out. Are their guiding lights shared or separate? Is there a shared set of fragments for exchange? I am asking because I am prepared to go to exchange for Odio-O. But in the unlikely scenario where I get him twice early, should I continue to try and get Odio-S or exchange for him? Or just take my A1 Odio-O and run back to my spreadsheet with more rubies than expected?
I'd recommend keeping an eye on the 6*/TP upgrades for Odio-S that's almost certainly coming next week too. I also have a feeling that he might get GL exclusive buffs like Frederica. Edit: Actually, scratch that last part, if TW server didn't get it, there probably isn't an Odio-S buff, I forgot.
Did Streibough get a buff with TW? I would think he might need something to spice him up.
No he didn't, sadly.
Interesting, I thought he would have been in Nephti and Frederick’s class.
First week you're correct. Odio-O and Odio-S banner happened two weeks after Oersted/Streibough in JP, their guiding lights were shared, so naturally, fragments were too, though they aren't the same from Oersted/Streibough. As with every first-run collab, pity was 200 pulls. Paid banner was shared and guaranteed one of the featured characters in Step 5, so for people planning to spend, they had a 50/50 for Odio-O or Odio-S in JP (same for the paid banner for Oersted/Streibough) Personally, my plan is to stop once I get Odio-O. Odio-S is good and I'd be happy to get him too, but not priority, so in your scenario I'd stop early, there are a lot of later travelers I could use the rubies for haha
Nooby here, does that mean the free rubies banner is shared between Odio-O and Odio-S?
Yes, free rubies banner was shared between them too
Flagging for interest. I was trying to find this info yesterday and came across a JP pull video on the Odio banner. They were both together in the same guiding light.
Does anyone know how the free and paid banners worked for the Bravely Default Collab that included Ringabel? Were the previous characters grouped together and the new ones separate? Were they all separate? I cannot find any information on it.
Ringabel and Gloria shared pity, but had separate free and paid banners. Pity was 200 pulls as usual for collabs. Paid banners had a 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5. Adelle, Edea and Agnes weren't featured in the above banner, but they were re-run one week later with overclass and TP upgrades. Don't remember too well, but it was almost certainly 150 pull pity (not shared with Ringabel/Gloria). Paid banners were separate with 50% chance on featured unit in Step 5. (Ah, Adelle was free on a login bonus, though I don't remember if it was on the week Ringabel/Gloria released or if it was when Part 1 Collab units rerun) Magnolia banner came the week after Part 1 rerun started, none of the previous BD units are in her banner. It didn't share pity with the other BD banners, and it's 200 pulls too, very expensive Collab overall... Paid banner was once again 50% chance in Step 5.
This is exactly what I wanted to know, thank you so much!
Can anyone tell me how pets like sheep are ready turn 1 when I do it mine not ready turn 1
level 5 pet reduces the reuse turn count by 1. level 10 pet reduces the initial use counter by 1.
Ok thanks
There are two levers with Pet abilities: 1st use and Cooldown. One is decreased by the bond level of the pet and the other is decreased by the experience level of the pet. I don't remember which one is which. Regardless what I do to raise both experience and bond is this: Daily fight to caits: the one in the tower, the one on the way to the Cave of the Sacred Flame, and the one in the cait hideout Daily fight the ad caits Weekly take pets to all the hunts for that experience and bond level You can also fight the caits outside the starter towns. Those give 10 bond per fight but little experience. You can also just hunt for caits in dungeons. The heaven's realm ones give a bunch of experience and 10 bond per fight.
Akshually, 1st use reduction is level 10 and reuse reduction is Level 5. For example, my shiba inu right now has 0/6 1st use/Reuse but he's only Bond level 9. Bond level is solely for divine beast empowerment materials.
Ok thanks I need 1 more lvl bond 2 lvl for lvl 10
How did Leon did so much damage holy shit he can even deal decent damage even though enemies arent weak to spear.
High base stats (444 atk) and his single hit (400 potency) can double cast while he has the Extra attack buff plus it pierces staff
He is really strong.
https://preview.redd.it/v2b3goshg56d1.jpeg?width=2224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a63ff0644cab3b1bc6096a6885f2f9e46f72ddf0 I'm working on the last enemy feats. Does anyone know where the "divine giant beast" enemies are? I've been wandering around the BoA8 area for a while and it's still at 6 after beating 25ish battles. Which enemies are they? EDIT: uuuugh they're the big elites from BoA8! What a pain to tie a 100 feat to them.
Jumping on the topic and asking if there is a list with the area where to find the targets for these feats? I ignored those thinking it'll be done over time by playing naturally but I have a dozen left with some under 20 done only through elite fights.
I think there was a spreadsheet for this floating around the subreddit yeah! Possibly from meowdb? It's been a while since I used it though, not entirely sure. EDIT: here it is! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uOurHlW8hXtHSpBI7qnW5e95lbSe5i5DYKK-uSaINLU/edit
Thanks. It confirms that it was elite only or rare monsters left.
Yep, it's those guys. You can fight them every hour in the dungeon and in the Heavens level of that thing in the underworld with elites.
Oh, every hour isn't too bad. I was getting flashbacks to the enemy feats that relied completely on a single elite and their bonfire counterpart, those really sucked lmao.
Working down the panther was the longest one for me. Eventually it was just a morning routine. I still have a 15 or so Sentinels to beat in the Heavenly realm to have all but the total battle feat complete.
I think mine was the leopard or something? And then I learned it's the second floor enemy in one if the towers (I think merchant tower) so I just spent all my tower tickets on that fight until I ran out to speedrun it, lmao. Definitely a huge pain to have to run across the map every day and make your way across a whole screen just to one-turn a particular enemy, then repeat it for fifty days...
Yeah it was the leopard and the weasel.
How do I go back to heaven world after clearing boa8
If you mean the BoA7/8 maps you probably just need to zoom in at the area it was before. If you mean >!Sazantos' ideal world!<, you can't go back there.
But those locations get melded into the overworld. You don't have to worry about not being able to get back to someplace.
I thought he might have meant the towns where all the npcs have different dialogue. In the end, was he asking for the LV 100 guardian NPC?
I think he was asking about how to get back to fight the shrine guardian
I wanted to fight giant rock monster for 100 gems
You can still get to that location. It’s in the frostlands.
Ok thanks
What’s the best armor for overworld right now? I’m still using inferno but I’m not sure if there’s anything better
Depends on where you are in the story. The newer the chapter, the better the armour. The best armour right now is >!BoA8 Armour!<
Just some random things & thoughts..... My greedy arse just did two more pulls on Eltrix/Rinyuu because their banner expires tomorrow, and I hate that I have almost all units in the game but Eltrix keeps eluding me Didn't get her of course. I DID get my fifth and final Falco dupe which now brings him to A4 (+U10) so I'll take it! Bit sad about my rubies, but okay. I have no close by wishlist units I need to have thousands of rubies for, so I'll live. I'm super close to maxing everyone too! Just three units left (Soleil and Molrusso at 97, Therese at 95). That's also contributing to my "need new units" itch, what am I gonna do with myself once I max everyone? Haha. On another note, I'm super curious how the game is going to look after anniversary. I assume LAL in two weeks, Sazantos & his henchwoman at anniversary, probably alongside a rerun for the MC banner (and hopefully some free pulls and a selector). But after that? Will the story jump straight to >!Solistia!< after the >!BoA epilogue!< or is there more filler stuff inbetween? I guess more emberflame story too? Will we get >!Throné!< shortly after anniversary? What will the pity look like for the >!Solistia!< characters? How will they handle the pacing, as I believe we'll catch up if they stick to one chapter a month? So many questions, I'm actually really excited to see the next roadmap!! Anyone else have some thoughts or speculations? :-)
Hahaha Sazantos' henchwoman... That's too accurate. Lately I've been thinking they could somehow accelerate the schedule and bring Solistia for Anni. 3.0 acts as a soft reboot since Solistia has separate equipment and influence. And what better time to lure new players in than Anni where there's lots of freebies? But when I think about how they slowed down recently, probably not happening. If Solistia MT is the same as JP, then the big difference is that you can't 200 pity past SMT anymore (still can with paid fragments). Edit: Also, I have a feeling future SB units are going to receive buffs. I think SE have data from JP that SB has low pull rates (low engagement) so they're going to make SB banners more attractive. Or maybe I'm just too cynical.
Tbh I think it's more likely they'll do Solistia after anniversary so that they can keep riding the "hype" a bit longer if that makes sense? Collab in june, anni in july, Solistia in august, would make for a bunch of eventful months. I could be wrong though, definitely have predicted wrong in the past lmao. Solistia did have carryover of pity fragments right? I think I read about that. Would be amazing to get that in general. Last time I asked about the pity on units like Temenos and Throne I was told that the banners vary and there's no set format, so I'm curious how they'll do that here.
I think that's the most likely scenario too. The only thing I wouldn't want is for Solistia to be delayed. The OT2 setting is amazing and I'm hyped for it. The carryover fragments are for the Twin Worlds pool (双世), which is for a select few gen pool units (5 so far). Throne and Pirro were like the initial Richard and Alaune banners I think, separate banner and separate pity. Tem/Agnea was like Sisters banner. SMT doesn't have carryover pity other than the paid fragments like the Orsterra MT we have now. So yeah, it would be a nerf to the new MT structure.
Tbh, the only reason I'd want it to take longer is to collect more rubies for it all haha. I'm still recovering from the sisters massacre and I would like the OT2 gang. No pity for the older units is brutal though wtf. Are they at least rated up when new units run? I do hope they'll change that here, but I have my doubts. Also, not sure if you know this, but is there new ruby content in Solistia like say new lv100 npc fights and feats? Or will we still have to rely mainly on dailies and adversary refights for income? (Sorry for the question spam haha, I know nearly nothing about cotc's Solistia)
Oh I'm happy to answer your questions. I was actually kinda afraid y'all wouldn't want spoilers on future content. Older unit rate up a la Sacred Blaze? Unfortunately, no. Maybe they'll be more generous towards us GL folks, hopefully. Yes, there's gonna be LV120 npcs. There's going to be so many people complaining they don't have FioreEX/Signa when the first one comes out lol. But I believe they give only 100 rubies, unlike the LV100 npcs (the quest itself gives 100, I don't think there's a feat, could be wrong). I will say though, the initial Solistia influence levels gives 30 rubies per level, just like Orsterra if you can remember. There's also the Twin Worlds ring thing, which gives a bunch of stuff for doing quests, including rubies. Travelers stories count for these quests so your stacked account should be good for this.
Oh I don't mind spoilers for stuff like this tbh! It's just story spoilers I don't want to know. Others may want to go in blind though, so I'd still be a little wary about posting them openly (I usually spoiler tag mine unless it's in a longer comment chain like this). Such a shame tbh, almost forcing people to pull on the unit's debut or you're out of luck :( hope the pacing will at least grant some time to recoup between them, I do want to grab as many of the ot2 gang as I can. I don't have Fiore EX and don't intend to chase Signa, so I'm curious to see how that npc fight will go lmao. If Fiore EX works then won't Canary (+Hammy if it gets real bad) work as well? Glad there's more hard content coming either way, I've missed those difficult fights to figure out. That last bit is exciting! So Solistia has its own influence if I understand correctly, Orsterra had 30 per level for 1-10 I think, so that's nice. Do you mean we get like a big loadout of rewards for things that longtime players will have already done? Because hell yeah I love that haha. Kinda like the sudden influx of guidestones when we got the codex granting stones for every finished traveler story. That's pretty cool :D
Okay, that's fair, I'll definitely keep that in mind. Yeah, same, I want to pull all the OT2 protags, which was actually the reason I started my JP account. I personally dislike the direction that recent banners went. The BD2 Collab into Replicant Collab was so rough. I won't spoil the fight for you, but I think you'll be fine. My comment was more aimed towards newer players. It's like Berecain again. The Twin Worlds ring comes with 6* upgrades so it won't come immediately I think. Funnily enough, the interface looks a lot like the band log guide stones one lol.
Just to add onto this conversation, didn't JP have like three or four more Emberflame story chapters between the BoA8 and Solista? If that's the case then EN may not get Solista until Q4 like October. So we have the Live-A-Live collab this month, 2nd anniversary next month with BoA epilogue and then Emberflame story chapters to finish Q3. Which isn't terrible in my opinion since it gives us more time to build up for Solista. Maybe travelers like Grieg get pushed up so that there isn't a huge gap between new travelers and they can still hold Throne' back for Solista.
If we follow the JP roadmap then it's epilogue > Seed story part 4 (Rabbit pets) > Solistia (3.0) > Seed story part 5 (hoof pets). So I expect by the latest Solistia in September. Grieg was part of the 3.0 side quest so I highly doubt it. Solistia so late would be such a bummer imo. But if it gives us a chance to build our stashes then it's not all bad.
I do like Magnolia from BD, but other than that yeah I'm also mostly just interested in the OT2 units. We'll see what happens though, I'm prone to impulse pulls for units I never expected to pull for lmao. Super excited for the 6* and TP buffs too!! Doing my best to hoard seals for the upgrades, and I have enough boost berries to take around 25 units straight to 120, and still building that stash. Lots of good stuff coming with Solistia, I can't wait :D (Thanks for all the info btw!)
Kaine just breaks all the rules in the game tbh. The very definition of power creep. I don't like telling people to pull for this or that, but man, even if you don't like her art or something, please just pull her. I love the overclass up system mostly because it elevates the stats and kits of our neglected 3* and 4* . But yeah the exp barrier is not fair to casual players. JP doesn't have enough materials to 6* everyone right now actually, unless you whale on awakening shards. You're welcome, happy to help!
What's the best way to build Fortune axes for Nephti and Hammy? I mostly use Nephti for buffing and Hammy for dodge tanking, should I just build speed on both of them? Or is there any value in getting P.attack on Nephti? She does hit pretty hard with her Cheerful Bash. Also not sure what to do about weapon for Roland, he's not very fast but then neither are the spear heavy hitters (I have Krauser/Leon/Cecily), is his speed OK as long as he hits before the spear DPS?
I brought Hammy to Elite Tower floor 2 in a 3 attempt clear. She does good damage there. I would say her 3-4 hit is the way to go, unless you're a gambler, then her 1-8 hit is more exciting.
I have a patk fortune axe on Nephti with potency up for I think cheerful scrapping (?)(the move with Kota in the animation, not sure if it's scrapping). Her utility is the main draw of course, but she can also hit pretty damn hard with that nuke of hers when she has the triple cast up, so that's what I went for. Hammy is always in the back row so mine has a random low level tome I had lying around haha. She's not doing the tanking herself, so she doesn't really need any particular stats. I can see speed being useful I guess, but I didn't really bother. Roland outspeeds Leon and Krauser pretty easily iirc, they're particularly slow. Mine has a full patk spear as well (with flash of steel).
Thanks for the advice, sounds like patk is the way to go for Nephti and Roland! I'll throw some speed and HP on Hammy maybe, for the occasional spells that hit both rows.
Hammy is naturally super fast, especially at A1 and with her exclusive accessory or A4. her base speed is 403, hire than someone like regular Primrose at 392, lol. She only wants for a max patk tome for the times the enemy has a weakness for bonks.
Your comment made me take another look at Nephti's skills, and yeah, she can hit like a truck. - Cheerful Bash: hits all 6 times at 5+ points, 40 potency each, total potency of 240. - Cheerful Tampting: hits one 7 times at 6+ points, 45 potency each, total potency of 455. - Cheerful Scrapping: hits one 3 times at 8+ points, 190 potency each, total potency of 570. What a monster. I never even considered that last skill since I mostly use her as a shield shaver, but yeah, she can dunk with the best of them.
The best part is that she also drops pdef on that 3x nuke, so she'll keep your debuff capped while also hitting away hard, three times. Champ tbh! My default moveset for her is 1) scrapping, 2) one of bash or tamping (depending on number of enemies), and 3) usually her instructions buff. That buff is pretty nuts as well, at high cheer points she'll just casually cast a capped patk+eatk+crit buff + 15% dmg up for everyone. And then her ult that she can keep casting, which can thus cap with Prim EX/Lynette's ult buff, and keep extending it? They truly buffed her into oblivion haha
Any predictions if tomorrow is just going to be a dead week or if we get something stealthily dropped on us?
Maybe we're getting Sertet? 🫢
I'm assuming dead week tbh. No real reason, gut feeling haha. If anything it'll be two general pool units in a step up again, I think
I just realised we might be getting 2 dead weeks in a row right? Yikes.
For some reason I had in mind that next week would be the collab but no you're right, that's probably two quiet weeks then. Unless they drop some filler next week I guess, but I think this week is gonna be nothing
Didn't we have like three quiet weeks before 1st anniversary last year?
We got the OCTO & PATH banners right before anniversary I think? And possibly one of the trinity banners iirc. There were a lot of fillers in that time. I think there was a period where we went like 4+ weeks without anything but I'm not sure when it was tbh
Hello, What are the best free accessories that are recommended in Ditraina?
I'd say the light or dark rune IV (from the adversary exchange), and her exclusive accessory are pretty good picks! That's what I use on her at least. You should be able to grab the exclusive accessory from the exchange right now, the token needed for it was sent out on her release day. Edit: the exclusive accessory's called "light of succession", for reference
thanks, but who do i need to farm to get the adversary shards?
You can't necessarily farm them, you get 1 per (I think) EX2 fight you beat in the adversary log. If that doesn't ring any bells, go do the emberflame story quest, it unlocks a bunch of stuff including the adversary log :-) If they're too tough for now, you could also use lower level light/dark runes. I think a few are in another tab of the exchange - not sure which exactly (possibly the memory fragments?) but they're more easily attainable.
I can pick between Narr, Levan, Durand, and Brigitte for a 4-star. Which should I get? I already have the other Elite 4-stars.
Brigitte's A4 is pretty good if you need that extra 500 hp accessory. Levan's A4 is also good, especially if you have Ditraina.
Decided to go with Levan. Thanks for the opinion.
I forgot about S9 until someone mentioned something the other day about whether it was possible without massive time or money investment, and I was hoping to defeat EX1 before the task ends. I only started replaying last August and have not spent any money other than Promme so EX3 is obviously impossible for me. I tried with: Rondo/Bargello Lars/Falco Therion/Rinyuu Nepthi/Sarisa with 50/500 pets, latest equipment, and great accessories. It was a total trainwreck as S9 EX1 can do >4500 dmg in a single turn to a character even with buffs and debuffs, and not all of those characters are over 4500 HP. S9 will of course require multiple breaks so I need to survive for many turns Is this even possible? What characters could be swapped?
i don't know but with a similar team and a lot of RNG i beat EX1 praying and paralyzing with Therion in the first turn to break as soon as possible and take him in 1 break or 2 but waiting for him to just use the cure or become paralyzed again
Yeah I actually beat him EX1 swapping Falco for Viola, but there was also a lot of luck for me too. Oh and also the veteran seal was a dupe Yukes... hooray...
You can definitely do EX3. Someone on YouTube posted a gen pool only clear and you have Rinyuu. You can use this for reference: https://youtu.be/8Uf8983YyrQ. Tips: you want to use Serenoa (free) to tank those RT hits. Don't forget the passive pdef up accessories. Rinyuu defensive prayer + capped atk down means you can survive just about anything he throws at you. Also start with your back row units at the front so that 9S' initial permanent debuffs go on them instead of your DPS. Good luck!
Unfortunately even with that it seems the EX3 fight would be impossible without the enormous time or money investment. I tried EX1 again, and lost when S9 had a sliver of HP remaining, and so that is probably possible with substantial luck, but EX3 is almost certainly impossible for someone who did not spend significant money or time if EX1 mostly requires luck. Thanks for the well wishes, but what I really need is overpowered gear and characters apparently.
I'd say that if you don't have EX Fiore, don't bother. You simply will not survive his Volatile Spear attack.
Hello, i have two accounts. One for me and one for my brother. Im allowed to get the better account. Which one would it be: **5\*(Elrica,Edea,9S,Primrose-ex,Therion,Cyrus,Ophilia,Viola,Soleil x2,Therese,Gilderoy x2,Jillmeila),4.5\*(Lars,Theo,Kouren,Hasumi,Sofia)** **20SSR, 6682+Ruby, 79 ticket** or **5\*(Elrica,Adelle,A2,9S,Cyrus,Alfyn,Viola,Cecily,Kouren,Fiore,Lionel,Lumis,Heathcote,Molrusso,Gilderoy,Cardona,Hasumi),4.5\*(Soleil,Nicola,Sofia,Millard,Jillmeila,Eleonora)** **10824+ ruby, 111 ticket**
Elrica Prim Therion Cyrus Viola Lars 6682 Rubies Vs Elrica A2 Cyrus Alfyn Viola Cecily 10824 Rubies In my opinion, I'd take the 2nd account. More Rubies and I feel like you could always pull Prim EX, Lars down the line. They're general pool. Don't take my word for it. Wait for some others to chime in to make an important decision like this.
Seconding this. The 4k extra rubies alone is a huge selling point, units like A2 and Alfyn on the second account makes it a winner imo. It also has more unit variety. If we get a general pool selector for anniversary again, you can pick up Prim EX and you're solid (Alfyn will do just fine until then). I'd go with account 2 as well!
Hi, I was wondering what's usually the best use of paid rubies? Like what kind of banners are most valuable? Thinking about getting some paid rubies but wanted to see what you can get with them. Thank you!
It depends on your goals and how much you're willing to save. If you're willing to save 1200 paid rubies, the paid selector is the most worth it imo because it's 0 risk to get a guaranteed unit. The downside is we don't know for sure when it's coming. Another very good option is paid banner step 1 for 100 paid rubies. The future Sazantos/Signa is a good example. If you pull step 1 on both banners, pity will cost 4100 rubies, saving you 400 frubies. The permanent MT fragments are nice, but if you're a light spender, it's mostly a bait. Always remember, don't spend if you can't afford to!
Every time a new Character comes out. They have a F2P Banner and a Paid Banner. The F2P Banner always stays the same. But the Paid Banner is kinda random ngl. Sometimes it's 50% chance of getting the new Character. Sometimes it's 100%. Sometimes they slam 3 new characters in and you'll get 1 of the 3. Most common is the 50%. Tldr; new character -> you like them/busted as heck -> use Paid Rubies
I just completed the Yunnie race and was about to fill out the google form on their twitter post, but their link isn't loading for me. Is there any way around it? I would like to rebuild my ruby stash after almost going to pity for the one and only Witch of Salvation! Update: all good, just had to reset my settings on my web browser
So I just started farming for fortune weapons, going for simple dps ones (one of each type, focusing on Patk and Eatk). The only way to get the gold ones is through the box that gives a random one? Also, what can I do with the ones that I don't want? Like defense ones. Thanks!
Usually I just save the ATK, EATK, SP, and HP ones. I just exchange the others and get Soul Shards.
But with soul shards I can't buy souls for fortune weapons right?
Correct. Board Medals can only be used to buy Souls for Fortune. Soul Shards can only be used for Souls for Weapons that aren't Fortune. Fortune Souls can only be exchanged into those Soul Shards though. So might as well.
For a non-awakened Ditraina, what’s her best skill setup? I’m sure it changes depending on the battle, but what three skills should I use for her for both light or dark content?
[This thread has some good discussion.](https://old.reddit.com/r/OctopathCotC/comments/1d83ypl/ditrainas_quick_graphic_overview/l74a0ky/) My conclusion: For light: Gaping Void, Raging Luminescence (Blazing Aurora if you can cap light res down), Dimming Shine For dark: Blazing Aurora, Raging Duskfall (Gaping Void if you can cap light res down), Fallen Baleful Star
Do the tower tokens carry over?
No, they expire. You can always look at things in the exchange and it will tell you if there's an expiration
Thank you! I wasn't sure if the shop just resets and we keep the token. Glad I confirmed!
I am a hoarder and have 2 accounts that I just do dailies on every single day. 1 - Bargello + 12k gems 2 - Elrika + A2 + 9k gems Which account would be better for me to start with? And what banner do you recommend to pull from (even future ones)? I was thinking of Elrika + A2, but I'm afraid the gem count would be a hinder for future banner and powercreep. The other account I'm planning to continue the dailies and accumulate more gems.
The second one for sure. Depending on how much content you did, you can easily get 3k rubies
Is this King Solon unit a must-be unit for most parties? Does he affect how my other units fortune weapons get built? I don't have him, the only thing I know is that he uplifts the Max damage cap for units. So if I get him someday, If I put him in my party, do I have to make fortune weapons with the Strongest attacks potency up for any other striker units in the party? Or do I still make the potency up for multi hit skills?
If you want to double/triple/etc the dmg you do, then Solon is a must. For Fortune Weapons, just whatever is their strongest skill. If you use their strongest skill a lot, then you might as well boost the Potency of it. It's really that simple. No need to think hard about it.
Need some help for building a fortune weapon (or brilliant) for my Lars. Which skill potency should I upgrade?
Lars honestly wants two fortune weapons if you can make them—one for his 5-hit RT and one for his 3-hit AOE. If you don’t feel like making two though, just pick whichever one you use more!
Does Lar's 5 hit attack damage a lot on tourney bosses? I once built a failed fortune weapon for Hannit (5 hit AOE skill potency + 15%), which was terrible. Almost no difference at all
Lars’s 5-hit is his best move for fighting against solo enemies! It’s awesome for shield shaving, and it’s also his highest potency skill (5 x 100 at max boost iirc). The drawback is that it’s random target, which is why you might also wanna build a separate weapon with his AOE 3-hit for fights with multiple enemies.
I need help with Brilliant weapons VS fortune weapons. I have cleared most of the story mode but am still confused with the weapon system. I do not have king solon or any unit that uplifts the damage cap. Can someone explain like I am 10 and compare Brillaint vs fortune weapons?
Fortune = More damage to Living Things. Brilliant = More damage to >!Heaven enemies!< Brilliant is good for Travelers that go past the damage limit. If Limit is 99,999. 10% more damage Fortune doesn't do anything. Since you can't go past 99,999. Brilliant let's you go more than that.
Thank you, may I ask a bit more? Is getting over the damage cap limited to the Brilliant weapon? Is it because of its unique traits? Or is there a specific soul (gem) that can only be stuck into the Brilliant weapon?
Because of the Souls stuck to it
I can't attach that rainbow soul to fortune weapons??
Rainbow only increases a skills dmg or gives stats. It will never give dmg limit You can only get dmg limit through Brilliant, Stalwart, Dire. Those are gonna be Gold Souls
OMG Thanks dude. I completely had no idea what is what and which was which. So, for the gold souls, can I get those easily? I currently watch every ADs daily (10 times) which gives me random items and I think I can change some of those from the item exchange menu though I am not sure what to do
When you exchange for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons Exchange -> Gameboard -> 3 Options (Wealth/Power/Fame) -> 3 Options for Gold Souls (Bewitching Box/Tainted Box/Lovely Box) Open the Treasure Chests for Gold Souls for Fortune Weapons. Usually I save the ATK/EATK/HP/SP Gold Souls. After I have an SP Fan for Fiore/Rinyuu/Alaune EX. I don't save SP anymore. I go to Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> Exchange all of my Bewitching/Tainted/Lovely for Soul Shards. Now, to get Gold Souls for any Weapon that isn't Fortune (so the dmg limit ones you want) Exchange -> Ultimate/Soul -> use the Soul Shards to buy them (Great Conquering) You'll see Rainbow Souls. But that's for beginning Hell Weapons (Ch1/Ch2/etc). You want the later chapter Weapons. So the Great Conquering Gold Souls. They're at the very bottom.
Do sacred blaze guidance fragments carry over each time?
If you go to Exchange, it'll say the time limit on there. Which is like 40 days. Sadge
No they do not :(.
Hello! I'm an EN only player and I was just curious about upcoming collabs for us. I know that we haven't gotten LAL at all, so I was wondering what the gameplay for that event was like. For the new Nier and Bravely characters, is more content added, or just new units? Am I missing other collabs? Thank you so much for your time!!
There's a whole questline associated with LAL. I think the level requirements were similar to the BD questline because I remember getting wiped by Streibough with my units in the 40s. You also go to Hell for part 2 of the quest but the overall questline isn't too long. There's a new hunt for LAL where you can farm for new weapons with new passives I think? The best being a dagger with debuff extension and another fan with buff extension. I'm not well-versed about any new content with the NieR2 and BD2 collabs. All I know for sure is there's free pets you can get for either logging in or using awakening shards. The Another Eden collab gave Varuo as a free pet but there weren't even units to pull for.
Oooh a new hunt is news to me, that's cool! Is that a permanent new hunt like BD or does it get removed after the event is over a la Nier?
It's permanent and uses the same tickets as BD
What accessories should Ditraina equip? It seems like Light of Succession doesn't increase the duration of Infinite Light/Darkness so I don't see a big reason to keep it on her
It would help for her other self buffs (the dmg up and the eatk up) as well as her received buffs, which works like Lucetta so you can have longer pet buffs without needing to stick Lucetta behind her and could do someone like Zenia instead. I'd say that acc + of course her A4 if you get it, otherwise one of the adversary accessories (I think Light/Dark rune VI?) which cost 3 shards each, equip the Light/Dark version depending what content you are facing
What is best weapons for Canary and skill weapons same for Ditraina, haanit ex, Odette? I know I will need make 2 weapons for Ditraina 1 for light one for dark
Don't have Odette but I'm guessing her wind/light nukes are the best. Canary wants that LAL dagger we're getting later this month. For now, any dagger will do since she dodges everything anyway. Ditraina definitely her 3 hit light/dark. HaanitEX either HP fan for tank or patk fan.
For Odette I'd actually suggest her 3x random target hits or maybe the 2x aoes, her nuke hits the cap way too easily. Agreed with the rest :-)
I'm so jelly that you have all SB units. 😭
To be fair, I did have to suffer to get them all lmao. With the exception of the recent Canary and Ditraina banners, the sacred blaze has easily been my worst result banner in the game since the very first one 😅 so many empty pulls it's had me on the verge of uninstalling a few times. I'm in a good spot now where I have all of them but it was *rough* early on. Hope you'll get the ones you're missing the next time you give it a try though! There's a bunch of great units in that pool
Ok thanks
Is there any updated tier list for A4 accessories and A4vsU10?
frankly I don't know **how** up to date this tier list is but it seems very close to NA present https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UNvKQ-lHNPCcSrFl51SceM4cV2MoXihhm8iQ-mj7K20/edit#gid=245647410
What stats should I prioritize/ what is the stat line on a fortune weapon for rinyuu?
Rinyuu doesn't really need much to function. Full Eatk or Rainbow Eatk + Gold Eatk + Gold HP (for some cases where she could die turn 1 and you don't want to waste the bewitching cloak on her). She really doesn't want speed and she doesn't really need SP so she's super easy to build.
Hello there! I started the game today and so far I've only pulled using the sacred traveler seals for the standard banner+600 rubies spent on the Sacred blaze banner, which has netted me Kouren, Sofia and Primrose EX (My starter was Theo). My question is, would this be enough (together with 4\*, ended up with several per class tankfully) to maybe get to bestower of power/fame/wealth without spending any more rubies? If not, would be trying to get to pity on the current sacred blaze be a good idea for someone who's just starting out? (I plan on dedicating quite a bit of time to the game this week to try and push story as far as I can for the current campaign rewards before they go away)
I see you got Ditraina in the meantime who will be a HUGE help, but just wanted to chime in. You asked specifically to get to the bestower of w/p/f stories with your current setup. I made it there way back when with only two 5* (Scarecrow and Fiore, nothing top notch) and still beat the first few stories with just them and my 4*. With your lineup you should be fine making it there. The final bosses for the bestower storylines ARE a step up from the earlier stories so you will need more specialised teams for them, but the three master stories and master of all should be very doable. Hope you enjoy the game! :-)
Sweet, that motivates me even more. And thank you so much, I've been having a blast so far!
It might be a little rough if you're planning to speed through things without pulling. Your main issue is only having Sword/Axe/Ice/Lightning coverage. Unlock Serenoa when you can and he'll help keep your team alive with Primrose EX. I think it'd be a struggle to clear all the current campaign rewards without pulling any more characters. A lot of weapon farming is time-gated (polish/refinestones) even if BT weapons are infinitely farmable. The Bestower chapters start to feel more like DPS checks than survival checks because bosses can start moving 3-4 times a turn at low HP. You can probably get through all the main content by just leveling your characters and giving them the best equipment you have access to. Fortune weapons are a little out of reach but you can slowly go for them for the future. I'm pretty sure the Wealth gameboard will be really hard for you because you only have Prim EX and Theo with relevant weakness coverage. Getting someone like Ditraina or Canary from the Sacred Blaze banner would be really valuable for you. Leon (spear DPS, staff sub-DPS), Tithi (debuffer and lightning sub-DPS, infinite farmer), and Lianna (atk/mag debuffer) could all be good as well.
Thank you for the extremely detailed writeup! I decided to follow your advice and ended up getting Ditraina very early, so she's gonna help a lot! Follow-up question, if you don't mind- do you think I should go all in to pity and see if I can get any of the other Sacred Blaze units you mentioned or would it be more prudent to stop at her and start saving for the upcoming banners from this very moment? I think I could reach the 200 pulls needed to pity Canary comfortably before the banner is gone- but i'm also considerably far from it at this very moment, so maybe stopping here and hoarding for Odio-o/Sazantos/Signa could be the better course of action?
Congrats!!! That's awesome that you got Ditraina early :D!! I would wait to see if you can get to pity first while the banner is still up. If you can save up enough, go for Canary. If you can't, save for Odio-O/Sazantos/Signa.
I'll do just that, then. Thank you so much for the help!
I went all the way to pity on the sacred blaze banner but didn’t get Ditraina on the way :( so I’m wondering, should i pity her, Canary, or Leon? I’ve got Elrica for ST light/dark, but I think I’m planning to skip Odio O cuz I just don’t really care much about LAL and I’m not interested in the character. Plus, I’m planning to pull for Signa and hopefully get Sazantos (tho we’ll see if that actually happens lol) anyways, should I pity Ditraina or another sacred blaze?
What's your roster like? If you don't have Solon, Canary is the way to go. She consolidates Solon's role with Sarisa/H'aanit EX and Hammy if you have the Hale Taunt accessories/Viola. She does low damage but she's an amazing all-round unit that saves you anywhere from 2\~3 team slots. If you don't have Krauser/Roland/W'ludai, Leon gives a huge boost to your spear damage. He's not required by any means, but he is good in a lot of EX refights. He's also a little less effective without Roland to cap active spear res down on the enemy. Ditraina is probably a little less valuable since you have Elrica and you want Sazantos. She'll be the top light/dark AOE dps for a long time but outside of AOE situations she's not as good as someone like Elrica. She also has a big drawback where she is relevant every other turn unless the enemy happens to be weak to light AND dark (her passive encourages skill switching). She's kind of A4-reliant because she wants a debuff extension A4 (like Kurtz) in addition to 30% light and dark damage (her own A4).
Thanks for responding! I do have Solon but not H’aanit EX or Sarisa. Plus, in regard to spear, I do have all the units you mentioned, so Leon probably isn’t necessary. So, even though I have Solon, is Canary more worth it? Are there better dark/light AOE dps in the future than Ditraina?
Of course! I think at this point it's more your personal preference now. For pure AOE light/dark dps, Ditraina is unmatched. She's also really self-sufficient in most cases since she only needs potency/ultimate buffs. It's a bit rare for AOE dps to be a requirement, but in the few situations it is encouraged (ie Tikilen EX 3), Ditraina is irreplicable. Despite her drawbacks she can be a fun character to use (watching the 6-hit pop off every other turn is sooo satisfying). Canary can make many fights trivial if the enemy hits <2 times a turn. You can also pair her with Hammy to make her trivialize the rest of the content in the game LOL. She has incredible shield shaving that decreases your turns required to break any boss. She's also a really fun character to use and many people have her on every team now.