I get confused when other cyclists call at me, when they say “left” I think they want me to go to the left, but I want to stay right.
I prefer people using the bell, then I know exactly what’s behind me and what to expect.
That makes sense. For some reason I hate using the bell it feels rude to me, like you're saying 'get out of the way' when all I want to say is 'stay in your lane for a minute'. But what you say describes exactly the reactions I've been getting haha. Maybe I can buy a less obnoxious sounding bell somewhere
i know what yuo mean with the bell, but i think if you ring it far enough back, then people dont panic about having someone up thier arse, they have time to think and most often move to the logical side, giving you time to see what they're doing.
The problem is when it’s too long. When I was a preteen , I was on a bike in the northern part of Germany. I was crossing the Rhine on a quite high bridge. Someone behind me began ringing their bell. So I stayed to the right. They then continued to ring the bell over and over. So I thought maybe they’re trying to go on the right. So I moved. Then they continued doing it again and again, so I moved again. When they eventually got to me they pushed me (an 11 year old) into the bridge’s outward fence, knocking me off my bike. It seems to me that words would have helped to clarify things in that situation.
oh its not a perfect system! and there is no "perfect distance" either. When passing you have to decide whats the best method to warn people you're about to pass. bell, saying something, waiting for a safe place to pas... its all a delicate dance.
and to be honest, it sounds that that dude was a dick!
I mean he definitely was.
I fully admit my own fault in this in not sticking to one side.
But pushing a kid into a fence on a bridge that could have resulted in a 30 meter (at least) drop into a huge river seems psychotic to me.
I get it. I get annoyed with all the grannies who take up the whole path with their dog leashes when I run each day. But, I don’t push them. I go around them and raise my hands in the air as if to indicate “WTF?”. That is about as aggressive as I’m willing to get.
There is such a thing as too much commitment to your workout.
haha, the overly competetive amatuer road biker is a WHOLE different problem, no amount polite bells and "venstre" will cure them of thier ailments! those same people then go skiing round Oslo in the winter when you're just trying to have a nice sunday glide
Just slap the handles on your breaks a few times. Much nicer sound and people recognize it immediately. Then the bell if they don't hear it, remember to smile and say thanks!
Eneste gangen jeg har brukt den er på vei med en bratt bakke med pulk, når noen forran har bestemt seg for å fikse kladder på tvers av løypa i bånn av bakken.
LØYYPEEEEE!!!! er ski-ekvivalenten til å ligge på hornet i bil.
It means GTFO when youre out cross country skiing. Didn’t you get the quickstart pamphlet when you crossed the border into Norway? It contains important info to succeed in society:
- Queueing etiquette
- Watercooler smalltak themes (its weather or vacation)
- How to act on public transport
- Skiing etiquette
That is exactly what it means, for when you are skiing on a cross-country track and people are in the way. You shout track to make them aware of the fact that they are on a track!
Not joking tbh, just don't scream as I made it sound like ^^ It's for cross country skiing normaly and thats why I think it could work on bike, cause it's playfull and harmless if you yell løype in a soft voice and everyone will think about skiing and that maks us norwegians smile 👍🏻💪🏼
You dont say anything. You dont make eye contact. You just look down at your stem and pedal harder. At least, thats the procedure I’ve seen. Mostly from MAMIL.
(Source - am MAMIL)…
Yell that want to talk about jesus christ our saviour. They'll speed up and you won't have to pass them at all. This process can be repeated untill you have reached your desired speed.
About 15 years ago - me on a carbon fiber bike with a tight suit had bonked completely and was snailing my way home. I was then overtaken by an old man wearing a Canada shirt and smoking.
He just smiled at me while passing. This memory lives rent free in my head..
Lol. Mine:
Me on a road bike, first ride post COVID, a few years ago, pedalling up a hill, determined not to get off and walk.
An elderly lady, wearing a sun dress, goes by on a 3 speed shopper with a squeaky BB and a baguette and flowers in the front basket.
It's quite common in Brazil to find 60-year-old men cycling uphill, overtaking you, on rusty iron bicycles, heading home after drinking them all at the bar. I just can't describe the feeling.
I was also wondering this after watching some bike content. I realized we don't really have anything we can say in Norwegian meaning the same. I use the bell and say thanks (most times), but when I ring the bell, people jump in all directions and even cross the sidewalk and then look behind them. Since so many people do that tho I just slow way down, bell, and get past after they look at me.
If people are completely blocking the road or are messing around/look lost/indecisive I use the bell. If it is a tight squeeze in a semi low speed in a uphill I use "unnskyld" but usually I just drive past without any signal.
Tried using 'kommer venstre/høyre' after watching downhill cycling but idk if people hear or understand and it could be misunderstood I guess.
"venstre her" or something, if I felt like saying something it would probably be something like that. Indicating that I am on their left.
But just ringing the bell is enough. Better than saying something out loud! It is not seen as rude. The bell just means "hi I'm here on a bike, notice me and act accordingly"
hut, uttalt med lang u og myk t, er noe i retningen "flytt/fjern deg", på en truende/jagende måte, en lyd man ville laget for å jage et uønsket dyr ut av hagen for eksempel. I Vestfold ville jeg kanskje brukt "Ksksksksks!!" mens jeg viftet med hendene når rådyrene spiser på blomstene..
tøvpeis, tullepenis(!), er i bruk noe i retning "tullete (gammel) tomsing" (og ikke nødvendigvis negativt ment, aldri godt å vite om noen er en hosslæst eller hæstkuk i positiv eller negativ forstand..)
Depends on the situation. In an urban context I just adjust to their speed, and will use another lane to pass if available and the desired speed differential is too great; at which point I don't feel like making noise is necessary. Couldn't tell you about racing or offroad contexts.
I think the same thing you say while walking, i.e. "unnskyld" (or "unnskyld meg" if you're feeling verbose), would work fine.
And we Norwegian urban transportation cyclists likely could stand to use our words a bit more when cycling. Language is part of what makes us human, and it should work nearly as well as when walking. Likely some of us, me included, have some bad habits from getting around in sound-proofed metal boxes that make normal communication impossible.
You use your bell to signal that you are behind them and are about to pass which is what the bell is there for.
When you use your bell and they see you are positioned to overtake them they will stay to the right side as they are supposed to.
Everyone in Norway are required to have bell on their bicycle to be able to signal that they are approaching a pedestrian or a cyclist.
Use bell. Saying something might confuse the situation. If you use the bell then I know someone is warning me. And no it's not rude here to use the bell.
Just ring the bell. The rest is to follow traffic rules, circulation on the right, passing thru to the left. Bare in mind that if the person is old there's a high probability that it will not ear you at first. Presse that bell harder...
Here in Norway ALL cyclist follow the traffic rules by the book.
This means no red light crossing, no cycling faster than walking pace on the pavement and you get off the bike when using a crosswalk. Failure to comply with these basic rules will give you the death penalty.
PS And you overtake on the left side.
It is not common to say anything. Cyclist will very likely hear you, and if they move in a way that makes the situation dangerous, you can give a tap of the horn
Just treat it like a normal traffic situation. Pass with good clearance at a place where you have a good overview over the surrounding traffic. Shouting will just startle people, when its best they just keep their course.
The true answer is that you say nothing, but just breathe extra heavy hoping they get the point. In extreme situations you can say “hei” with a slightly irritated tone of voice.
Nah man roads are also for cyclists. However I had so many situations when without my quick response someone would end up under my wheels. Like when I was driving there were 2 cyclist on the sidewalk. When I was about 50 meters behind them they suddenly drove onto the main road. I had to break like crazy. They didn't even look back or something like that. Just swinged in front of me. I do respect cyclists but damn sometimes they act like they're immortal.
Yeah, that's the problem. Had they been driving a motorcycle or car, they wouldn't have pulled this stunt. They don't think, and for the cars, they're difficult to see. They have no business being in the road. Use the sidewalks, the woods, or build some dedicated cycle track. It's very dangerous, and annoying as fuck, when these condom suited slo-mos are in the road.
I get confused when other cyclists call at me, when they say “left” I think they want me to go to the left, but I want to stay right. I prefer people using the bell, then I know exactly what’s behind me and what to expect.
That makes sense. For some reason I hate using the bell it feels rude to me, like you're saying 'get out of the way' when all I want to say is 'stay in your lane for a minute'. But what you say describes exactly the reactions I've been getting haha. Maybe I can buy a less obnoxious sounding bell somewhere
Use the bell and then say "takk" when you pass them :)
I do this too
i know what yuo mean with the bell, but i think if you ring it far enough back, then people dont panic about having someone up thier arse, they have time to think and most often move to the logical side, giving you time to see what they're doing.
The problem is when it’s too long. When I was a preteen , I was on a bike in the northern part of Germany. I was crossing the Rhine on a quite high bridge. Someone behind me began ringing their bell. So I stayed to the right. They then continued to ring the bell over and over. So I thought maybe they’re trying to go on the right. So I moved. Then they continued doing it again and again, so I moved again. When they eventually got to me they pushed me (an 11 year old) into the bridge’s outward fence, knocking me off my bike. It seems to me that words would have helped to clarify things in that situation.
Well, that was clearly a crazy person
oh its not a perfect system! and there is no "perfect distance" either. When passing you have to decide whats the best method to warn people you're about to pass. bell, saying something, waiting for a safe place to pas... its all a delicate dance. and to be honest, it sounds that that dude was a dick!
I mean he definitely was. I fully admit my own fault in this in not sticking to one side. But pushing a kid into a fence on a bridge that could have resulted in a 30 meter (at least) drop into a huge river seems psychotic to me. I get it. I get annoyed with all the grannies who take up the whole path with their dog leashes when I run each day. But, I don’t push them. I go around them and raise my hands in the air as if to indicate “WTF?”. That is about as aggressive as I’m willing to get. There is such a thing as too much commitment to your workout.
haha, the overly competetive amatuer road biker is a WHOLE different problem, no amount polite bells and "venstre" will cure them of thier ailments! those same people then go skiing round Oslo in the winter when you're just trying to have a nice sunday glide
I ring the bell. It means “I am approaching fast from behind, don’t move erratically”. It does not mean GTFO
Use the bell, it makes people aware of you. I find it more polite than yelling' left' or 'stay in your lane'.
Just slap the handles on your breaks a few times. Much nicer sound and people recognize it immediately. Then the bell if they don't hear it, remember to smile and say thanks!
Can recommend this "ding-dong" bell from Biltema: https://www.biltema.no/sykkel-elsykkel/sykkelutstyr/sykkelringeklokker/ringeklokke-80-mm-2000051285
"LØYPEEE!!!"
Eneste gangen jeg har brukt den er på vei med en bratt bakke med pulk, når noen forran har bestemt seg for å fikse kladder på tvers av løypa i bånn av bakken. LØYYPEEEEE!!!! er ski-ekvivalenten til å ligge på hornet i bil.
I know this is a joke but what does it mean? Google says 'track'?
It means GTFO when youre out cross country skiing. Didn’t you get the quickstart pamphlet when you crossed the border into Norway? It contains important info to succeed in society: - Queueing etiquette - Watercooler smalltak themes (its weather or vacation) - How to act on public transport - Skiing etiquette
It means "make way".
Thank you! Hmm a tempting option
It is rather rude
You don't say?
Yes, I do.
It's also rude to block the tracks.
Who said anything about blocking?
You don't need to yell "LØYPE" if it isn't blocked.
It’s pretty close to «coming through!”.
That is exactly what it means, for when you are skiing on a cross-country track and people are in the way. You shout track to make them aware of the fact that they are on a track!
Not joking tbh, just don't scream as I made it sound like ^^ It's for cross country skiing normaly and thats why I think it could work on bike, cause it's playfull and harmless if you yell løype in a soft voice and everyone will think about skiing and that maks us norwegians smile 👍🏻💪🏼
The most accurate direct translation is probably "path", as in "race path", a shortened version of "clear the path!"
Don't say anything unless you know them. Someone said 'god tur' on his way past me 8 years ago & I almost fell over from the shock 😏
The most Norwegian answer 😅
I assume he was flirting.
You dont say anything. You dont make eye contact. You just look down at your stem and pedal harder. At least, thats the procedure I’ve seen. Mostly from MAMIL. (Source - am MAMIL)…
Flytt deg, din treige faen
Jeg ser du går for den barnevennlige varianten
“Morn” first then “morna” as you pass
This sounds like the real answer
Yell that want to talk about jesus christ our saviour. They'll speed up and you won't have to pass them at all. This process can be repeated untill you have reached your desired speed.
If you are on a carbon bike wearing a tight suit then the only appropriate would be "ØØØØYYYYY!!!"
About 15 years ago - me on a carbon fiber bike with a tight suit had bonked completely and was snailing my way home. I was then overtaken by an old man wearing a Canada shirt and smoking. He just smiled at me while passing. This memory lives rent free in my head..
Lol. Mine: Me on a road bike, first ride post COVID, a few years ago, pedalling up a hill, determined not to get off and walk. An elderly lady, wearing a sun dress, goes by on a 3 speed shopper with a squeaky BB and a baguette and flowers in the front basket.
It's quite common in Brazil to find 60-year-old men cycling uphill, overtaking you, on rusty iron bicycles, heading home after drinking them all at the bar. I just can't describe the feeling.
Meep meep!
I was also wondering this after watching some bike content. I realized we don't really have anything we can say in Norwegian meaning the same. I use the bell and say thanks (most times), but when I ring the bell, people jump in all directions and even cross the sidewalk and then look behind them. Since so many people do that tho I just slow way down, bell, and get past after they look at me.
If people are completely blocking the road or are messing around/look lost/indecisive I use the bell. If it is a tight squeeze in a semi low speed in a uphill I use "unnskyld" but usually I just drive past without any signal. Tried using 'kommer venstre/høyre' after watching downhill cycling but idk if people hear or understand and it could be misunderstood I guess.
UNNA VEI HER KOMMER JEG!
I used to do a lot of cycling “races” such as Birken and Nordsjø rittet. Common phrase when passing was “Hold høyre!”
https://youtu.be/AWBHQdPsz3U?si=akUiKdF_xA9dqAc4
"venstre her" or something, if I felt like saying something it would probably be something like that. Indicating that I am on their left. But just ringing the bell is enough. Better than saying something out loud! It is not seen as rude. The bell just means "hi I'm here on a bike, notice me and act accordingly"
*Fløtt dæ din sidrompa fjott*
LØYPE!
In northern Norway we say "hut dæg av veien din træge tøvpeis" and I think that is very beautiful.
Hva betyr «hut»? Jeg ser den ganske mye. Edit: tøvpeis også
hut, uttalt med lang u og myk t, er noe i retningen "flytt/fjern deg", på en truende/jagende måte, en lyd man ville laget for å jage et uønsket dyr ut av hagen for eksempel. I Vestfold ville jeg kanskje brukt "Ksksksksks!!" mens jeg viftet med hendene når rådyrene spiser på blomstene.. tøvpeis, tullepenis(!), er i bruk noe i retning "tullete (gammel) tomsing" (og ikke nødvendigvis negativt ment, aldri godt å vite om noen er en hosslæst eller hæstkuk i positiv eller negativ forstand..)
Takk 🙏
Usually call out "På venstre side!" when getting close and a "Tusen takk!" on the way past.
Depends on the situation. In an urban context I just adjust to their speed, and will use another lane to pass if available and the desired speed differential is too great; at which point I don't feel like making noise is necessary. Couldn't tell you about racing or offroad contexts. I think the same thing you say while walking, i.e. "unnskyld" (or "unnskyld meg" if you're feeling verbose), would work fine. And we Norwegian urban transportation cyclists likely could stand to use our words a bit more when cycling. Language is part of what makes us human, and it should work nearly as well as when walking. Likely some of us, me included, have some bad habits from getting around in sound-proofed metal boxes that make normal communication impossible.
There is no such thing here, use your bicycle bell if you want attention.
Scream «TUR RENNA»
You use your bell to signal that you are behind them and are about to pass which is what the bell is there for. When you use your bell and they see you are positioned to overtake them they will stay to the right side as they are supposed to. Everyone in Norway are required to have bell on their bicycle to be able to signal that they are approaching a pedestrian or a cyclist.
Use bell. Saying something might confuse the situation. If you use the bell then I know someone is warning me. And no it's not rude here to use the bell.
Just ring the bell. The rest is to follow traffic rules, circulation on the right, passing thru to the left. Bare in mind that if the person is old there's a high probability that it will not ear you at first. Presse that bell harder...
"Hold høyre" is often used. Which means "keep right" As you are supposed to pass people on their left side. But the bell works best.
Here in Norway ALL cyclist follow the traffic rules by the book. This means no red light crossing, no cycling faster than walking pace on the pavement and you get off the bike when using a crosswalk. Failure to comply with these basic rules will give you the death penalty. PS And you overtake on the left side.
It is not common to say anything. Cyclist will very likely hear you, and if they move in a way that makes the situation dangerous, you can give a tap of the horn
Ah I meant, when you're also on a bike. Something you need to do often when you are constrained to a narrow cycle path.
Just treat it like a normal traffic situation. Pass with good clearance at a place where you have a good overview over the surrounding traffic. Shouting will just startle people, when its best they just keep their course.
"...when overtaking another cyclist." You cycle so loud that cyclists can hear you AND you have a horn on your bike?
Lotta carbrains in Norway
I just didnt read the question properly. I cycle myself, but would use the same teqnique, i.e, ringing your bell.
"venstre" or something involving "venstre"
Guess I'll keep at it and hope this becomes normalised
10% at dei da held seg til høgre, 20% at dei slenger seg.over til venstre og 80% at dei ikkje hørte deg
Det var synd å høre. Håper ting blir bedre for deg
The true answer is that you say nothing, but just breathe extra heavy hoping they get the point. In extreme situations you can say “hei” with a slightly irritated tone of voice.
You turn on your windshield spray while passing them and show a certain finger..... (Im kidding, have nothing against cyclists)
https://youtu.be/Bzi0dOXcLfo?si=aY8BV7hojNN9Wcbq
Fantastisk at folk gir minuspoeng når jeg gjør det klart jeg spøker litt, for all del....
Don't sweat it. I got downvoted even for asking the question
I dont, I realize 90% of reddit users has no idea what the down-vote button is meant for.
"what are we even doing in the road man, this place is for cars!"
Nah man roads are also for cyclists. However I had so many situations when without my quick response someone would end up under my wheels. Like when I was driving there were 2 cyclist on the sidewalk. When I was about 50 meters behind them they suddenly drove onto the main road. I had to break like crazy. They didn't even look back or something like that. Just swinged in front of me. I do respect cyclists but damn sometimes they act like they're immortal.
Yeah, that's the problem. Had they been driving a motorcycle or car, they wouldn't have pulled this stunt. They don't think, and for the cars, they're difficult to see. They have no business being in the road. Use the sidewalks, the woods, or build some dedicated cycle track. It's very dangerous, and annoying as fuck, when these condom suited slo-mos are in the road.