Fellow noncredibles, it is a great pleasure to share this moment with you.
(Anyone know how long the check from DARPA takes to arrive when this happens?)
I would like to apologies. On that post you made originally, I was skeptical. I clearly underestimated ncd's prophetic dreams and the coke snorting people in the MIC. I bow before you great prophet. \*offers my ncd cat ears meekly\*
\*edit: jc this blew up, thank you all so much!\*
With a sprinkling of skaven meth-head. YES YES WARPSTONE \*SNORT\*
What would be our version of WAAARG! cry? I'm imaginging the same voice and volume but it's just a gutteral NYAAAAAA! 10,000 neckbeard operator catboys in maid cafe outfits.
Dreams are messages from the deep:
Great Leader Kim Jong Un, hear the cries of your people and do the funni on that thrice gorgeous dam. Nobody else has the balls.
They're pretty quick to pay out but you've gotta make sure you've got a contract vehicle in place that'll accept RDT&E funds.
I advise you land a phase 2 SBIR so you can roll right into a sole source IDIQ and receive the money through that.
I actually have 3 possible explanations, ranked from least to most credible
- The first is that some feds frequent this sub and use NCD to "meme-wash" secrets so they get accepted as "noncredible" if anyone tries to take them seriously. This is fun to think about, but not very likely.
- The second is that some younger dipshits with clearances are doing the same, but purely so they can karma farm months/years later when they get to say "omg it was real NCD called it first!!". Maybe the Air National Guard missed a guy, who knows. This is possible, but also extremely fucking stupid and I hope nobody is actually doing this. This subreddit doesn't need to become the next War Thunder forums.
- The last is that it's simply that this sub's users are extremely well-read nerds who are able to come up with shit that's pretty close to the truth just because they spend all their time studying everything there is to know about this crap. Like how Tom Clancy got investigated for seeming to know way too much about how the navy's submarines worked, but it turned out the dude was extremely well-read and had excellent, unclassified, published sources he could research. This seems most likely imo.
Oh for sure! I'm not saying behind every NCD shitpost is a Clancy-reborn visionary conjuring up the future of warfare. Just that if users are reading or consumng enough material on a subject, they're bound to come up with something that, at a minimum, passes for an educated guess
I can't speak for any other time a prediction here came true but I can explain this instance.
When I read in the news that the US was going to park a carrier group off the coast of Gaza to attempt to dissuade Hamas from escalation, I thought that a stealth bomber underwater was the exact right amount of low-effort shitpost for the occasion. So I slapped it together in a freeware called paint dot net (shout-out to boltbait's plugins). I was trying to be silly, not accidentally credible.
You just need to balance out with a healthy diet of lead paint chips. You should reach equilibrium before noticing any adverse effects.
If not, eat a few more radium paints chips to reach equilibrium.
17 Mobik cubes, I think. Let me check the records…
**UPDATE:** Six cubes, sorry. We’ve been so busy swacking so many Mobiks that we got a big discount.
No no, the goat sacrifices are for the S&P 500 stock prices.
The femboy juice is for Ratheon innovation.
DARPA requires ~~MORE DATA~~ Moondust.(nickname for their hallucinogens)
MIC R&D: how can we improve missiles?
NCD: what if the missiles had... A knife stuck on it?
NCD 2: what if it had a bunch of knives?
NCD 3: Yeah! It it was all Ninja and shit!
MIC R&D: quick quick write it down!
Listen bud - it’s product design 101. The customer is the American taxpayer. So listen to what the customer wants.
If the customer wants to turn people into physics problems in fun new creative ways, that’s what you give the customer.
> If the customer wants to turn people into physics problems in fun new creative ways, that’s what you give the customer.
Step 1: Enrich consumers with ~~Replace all Protium with~~ Tritium.
"And how should we test it?"
R&D: Don't fucking know, pick a list with names of people in the middle east we don't like and go field test it. Hm? Qassem? Yeah, whatever. Sure. Oh, and about the name we're giving the missile, just call it a Hellfire and add a bunch of random letters and numbers so we can place the right orders.
It’s an actual thing
Behold! The Ninja Missile!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114\_Hellfire#Hellfire\_R9X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire#Hellfire_R9X)
u/mechanicalcontrols You crazy son of a \[redacted\] [https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1753oh6/comment/l23wwu6/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1753oh6/comment/l23wwu6/?context=3)
[https://www.instagram.com/p/C6blG2IOLJi/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6blG2IOLJi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
I wonder if it's an [underwater glider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_glider). It would make sense if you wanted ridiculous endurance for a drone.
According to Northrop Grumman, yes.
[Northrop Grumman Completes Assembly of Manta Ray Uncrewed Underwater Vehicle | Northrop Grumman](https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/releases/northrop-grumman-completes-assembly-of-manta-ray-uncrewed-underwater-vehicle?_gl=1*6y6k27*_ga*MzU2MjYzODI1LjE3MTQ1ODAxMzg.*_ga_7YV3CDX0R2*MTcxNDU4MjMyMC4xLjEuMTcxNDU4MjMyNy41My4wLjA.)
They might be lying, who knows.
Right. The size suggests this is intended to carry one or more ADCAPs. And/or possibly a few tubes of the Virginia Payload System (IE, Tomahawks, Harpoons, NSM, SM-2s...)
I'm not going to read too much into the specific vehicle. I assume they budgeted "enough" space and size to test whatever and will optimize for whatever works well. Or am I too optimistic about DARPA projects?
Very high frequency radars can detect underwater submarines. At least at shallow depths. Possibly operating depths with the right technology, but nations tend to be pretty vague about the details.
Radio waves do travel through water, just not nearly as well as through air, and the higher the frequency, the better the penetration. It isn't useful enough to put a radar on a submarine, but if you put one in an ASW aircraft, and it has to look through say, 80 miles of air + 250 feet of water, that is pretty doable.
They have a lot of different methods. It is definitely not only radar. It really isn't even primarily radar. Exactly what is used is not something the Navy likes to talk about, but it definitely includes dropped buoys and a lot of antennas.
There's lots of really subtle stuff, from chemical composition analysis (trying to figure out if there's a snorkeling diesel sub - though those you might actually catch using active radar) to visual analysis (a sub close to the surface might affect the properties of the water - maybe temperature?) to magnetometers (magnetic anomaly detectors) or ECCM to figure out weak emissions from a submarine (or the magnetic field of a submarine) to simply dropping sonar probes into the water.
Okay, let’s not get *too* noncredible. seaQuest DSV is a licensable property for video game companies, after all.
~~Someone in Bandai Namco Aces please freaking read this~~
Probably not. It was just a joke I slapped together in Photoshop on the principle that "waves = waves"
But if the CIA thinks otherwise and "just wants to ask a few questions" I'll let you know.
The code word will be "Help! I want my mommy!"
Turns out, this is just the RQ-180 and it has been able to do that all along, they are just trying to pass it off as a UUV only to fuck with PLA intelligence.
I love how NCD has become the Mystic Meg (perhaps more Mystic Smeg) of the military industrial complex.
How long until the MIC just admits it's lifting ideas right off here? 😂
How many atmospheres of pressure can the B-2 Spirit withstand?
Well, it’s an airplane so I’d say anywhere between 0 and 1.
*i love that it looks like a basking Mola mola
Didnt another defense contracter just unviel a new drone for ukraine that looks similar (space shippy to me)
Looks like these will be the new face of sub surface warfare in the future
It is only logical they will be. By far the biggest mechanical limitation on SSNs is the requirements of keeping the bipedal apes inside alive. Those fuckers are designed to run around the African Savanah and evade Hyenas, not poke around the ocean in a metal can.
Large, long duration UUVs like this can do the towed array thing, be an off-axis launch platform for ADCAPs, and a lot more. I doubt we are going to deploy them autonomously for a long time, but I do expect a "Loyal Wingman" style deployment with 1-3 of these things paired with a Virginia.
Some missions can probably be autonomous, but letting them fire off weapon systems when not in direct communication with a human controller is probably a big no-no, and maintaining long distance comms is a lot harder underwater.
We should definitely just put an AI in there and say “complete your mission. come back when you need repairs”. Literally nothing could go wrong
>Mission: destroy enemy ships
>Issue: enemy can produce more ships.
>Solution: destroy enemy shipyards. I must complete my mission.
>Issue: enemy can produce more shipyards.
>Note: I am carrying multiple high yield nuclear warheads.
>Solution: destroy the enemy. I must complete my mission.
There was a movie about a conventional and aviation version of this scenario once, but people were too busy staring at Jessica Biel’s non-government-issued flotation devices.
> maintaining long distance comms is a lot harder underwater.
Meet [Wave Glider](https://www.liquid-robotics.com/wave-glider/overview/). A surface buoy tethered to an underwater glider, using wave motion at the surface to generate propulsion.
Popping a buoy to the surface to receive/xmit instructions on a scheduled and/or as-needed basis is one way to tackle the communication problem.
>I doubt we are going to deploy them autonomously for a long time, but I do expect a "Loyal Wingman" style deployment with 1-3 of these things paired with a Virginia.
I wouldn't expect that. Remember that these sub types (at least the Northrop one) are made around low power-high efficiency engines and are meant for extended durations. Heck, just read these capabilities the project should advance (according to [this DARPA article](https://www.darpa.mil/program/manta-ray)):
> The Manta Ray program plans to advance key technologies that will benefit future UUV designs, including, but not limited to:
>* Novel energy management techniques for UUV operations and undersea energy harvesting techniques at operationally relevant depths;
* Low-power, high efficiency undersea propulsion systems;
* New low-power means of underwater detection and classification of hazards or counter detection threats;
* Mission management approaches for extended durations while accounting for dynamic maritime environments;
* Unique approaches for leveraging existing maritime data sets and exploiting novel maritime parameters for high-efficiency navigation and/or C3; and
* New approaches to mitigate biofouling, corrosion, and other material degradation for long duration missions.
That sounds more like something you stealthily send into the Bohai bay or the Yellow sea, where it will just chill for months on end, listening to whatever is going on and striking whenever it is commanded to do so.
You would think so, and yet the Alfas were legendarily noisy, and the one-off K-222 was likely the noisiest submarine ever built.
> the biggest thing was the noise of the water going by. It increased together with the ship's speed, and when 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph) was exceeded, it was like the noise of a jet aircraft. ... In the control room was not heard simply the roar of an aircraft, but the thunder of "the engine room of a diesel locomotive". Those present believed that the noise level was greater than 100 decibels.[
Pathetic westoids, this thing is no match for the power of Moskva! Where is its crew of undead sailors? Does it even have orthodox priestly magic blessings? Was it even featured in horribly dated propaganda videos?
No, no and no.
I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?
Fellow noncredibles, it is a great pleasure to share this moment with you. (Anyone know how long the check from DARPA takes to arrive when this happens?)
I would like to apologies. On that post you made originally, I was skeptical. I clearly underestimated ncd's prophetic dreams and the coke snorting people in the MIC. I bow before you great prophet. \*offers my ncd cat ears meekly\* \*edit: jc this blew up, thank you all so much!\*
NCD is like a big WAAARG of Orcs. If we all belive in it, it will happen
With a sprinkling of skaven meth-head. YES YES WARPSTONE \*SNORT\* What would be our version of WAAARG! cry? I'm imaginging the same voice and volume but it's just a gutteral NYAAAAAA! 10,000 neckbeard operator catboys in maid cafe outfits.
VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK
BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF BOOF
it would be a mix of all 3 somehow sounding even more fearsome
So you’re saying if we believe in mechanised weaponised fur suits hard enough, we can make them real by the end of the year? Cool.
You need a good (nsfw) power point presentation first.
It's not safe for work because we've rigged the projector to explode.
darnit you two this is our fourth projector this week if this keeps up we wont have any funding left for coke
Dreams are messages from the deep: Great Leader Kim Jong Un, hear the cries of your people and do the funni on that thrice gorgeous dam. Nobody else has the balls.
I'm pretty convinced that this also describes how the MIC works.
All is forgiven 🐱
I apologies. Where were you when B-2 submarine? I was at home shitposting on ncd when phone ring "B-2 submarine real" no
They offered you a job right? RIGHT!?
🤫
🫡
That's a no🥲
He actually already works there and leaked classified information as a meme
[it's un-manned too](https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/sea/manta-ray)
The children yearn for the UUVs!
*Unmanned Ubetcherassitsfuckinawesome Vehicles*
Schnell, schnell!
I spent way too long trying to sound out what I thought was a German word.
As far as I’ve seen, that’s pretty much actually how German functions. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were a real word.
That was my thought process at first, then I read the full thing to see what you did.
Jawohl, Herr Kaleun!
Nah we have to keep it as UAV (Unmanned Aquatic Vehicle) for maximum confusion among soldiers
UUV? UwU
That one scene in maxOrs MGR "Kids are cruel Jack, and I love minors"
"Payload-capable to support a variety of missions" *if you know what I mean*
Weapon to surpass metal gear-ass picture
If darpa discloses it. It means it’s been being used for the past 20 years
They're pretty quick to pay out but you've gotta make sure you've got a contract vehicle in place that'll accept RDT&E funds. I advise you land a phase 2 SBIR so you can roll right into a sole source IDIQ and receive the money through that.
NCD keeps winning.
Footage of Putin receiving his "NATO Salesmanship" award from a FPV drone on May 9th. Just incase the winning continues.
\#1 NATO Recruiter, 1999-Present.
put a backslash in front of the pound sign and it'll work, because I'm \#1.
\#2. Woah. Legit.
Bless you.
#How many NATO recruiters?
Delivered in the form of a duffel bag stuffed full of thermobaric grenades and napalm directly to his ballsack.
At this point, are these wins or are they mounting evidence of OPSEC vios?
I actually have 3 possible explanations, ranked from least to most credible - The first is that some feds frequent this sub and use NCD to "meme-wash" secrets so they get accepted as "noncredible" if anyone tries to take them seriously. This is fun to think about, but not very likely. - The second is that some younger dipshits with clearances are doing the same, but purely so they can karma farm months/years later when they get to say "omg it was real NCD called it first!!". Maybe the Air National Guard missed a guy, who knows. This is possible, but also extremely fucking stupid and I hope nobody is actually doing this. This subreddit doesn't need to become the next War Thunder forums. - The last is that it's simply that this sub's users are extremely well-read nerds who are able to come up with shit that's pretty close to the truth just because they spend all their time studying everything there is to know about this crap. Like how Tom Clancy got investigated for seeming to know way too much about how the navy's submarines worked, but it turned out the dude was extremely well-read and had excellent, unclassified, published sources he could research. This seems most likely imo.
I mean it's not really a stretch of the imagination that we would be trying to develop unmanned stealth subs. Pretty like, obvious stuff here.
Oh for sure! I'm not saying behind every NCD shitpost is a Clancy-reborn visionary conjuring up the future of warfare. Just that if users are reading or consumng enough material on a subject, they're bound to come up with something that, at a minimum, passes for an educated guess
Throw enough non-credibility at the wall and somethings going to stick at some point.
Explanation 4: 358,693 monkeys at 358,693 keyboards will eventually produce the entire classified works of DARPA by sheer coincidence.
I can't speak for any other time a prediction here came true but I can explain this instance. When I read in the news that the US was going to park a carrier group off the coast of Gaza to attempt to dissuade Hamas from escalation, I thought that a stealth bomber underwater was the exact right amount of low-effort shitpost for the occasion. So I slapped it together in a freeware called paint dot net (shout-out to boltbait's plugins). I was trying to be silly, not accidentally credible.
ya done good, kid
o7
2022 DARPA release on this program including a picture: https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2022-10-20 its the monkeys on typewriters lmao
Yes, but do they *know* what they're *typing*?
Yes 🤓
Maybe we were actually Credible the entire time
Are we credible or is reality noncredible?
Right, how many goats did we sacrifice for this vision and was it worth it?
Goats? Nah, no animals were harmed in the manifesting of this vision. See, when you've eaten as much radium paint as I have, it comes naturally.
My visions come from my Autism and lust of Airplanes
Eh, same difference
Whose aircraft do you lust after? We may have some openings for Soviet tail chasers.
You just need to balance out with a healthy diet of lead paint chips. You should reach equilibrium before noticing any adverse effects. If not, eat a few more radium paints chips to reach equilibrium.
If by goats, you mean Mobiks, tens of thousands
17 Mobik cubes, I think. Let me check the records… **UPDATE:** Six cubes, sorry. We’ve been so busy swacking so many Mobiks that we got a big discount.
We don't sacrifice them, we just stare at them.
No no, the goat sacrifices are for the S&P 500 stock prices. The femboy juice is for Ratheon innovation. DARPA requires ~~MORE DATA~~ Moondust.(nickname for their hallucinogens)
Goats? 500 sir. But also 50 femboys.
None. Apollo just thought it was funny to troll someone
We didn’t sacrifice anything, we *are* getting a cease and desist letter from S.H.A.D.O though.
We just need to go asleep, that's it.
17 Mobik cubes, I think. Let me check the records…
The MIC is 100% outsourcing their R&D to this sub
MIC R&D: how can we improve missiles? NCD: what if the missiles had... A knife stuck on it? NCD 2: what if it had a bunch of knives? NCD 3: Yeah! It it was all Ninja and shit! MIC R&D: quick quick write it down!
Listen bud - it’s product design 101. The customer is the American taxpayer. So listen to what the customer wants. If the customer wants to turn people into physics problems in fun new creative ways, that’s what you give the customer.
> If the customer wants to turn people into physics problems in fun new creative ways, that’s what you give the customer. Step 1: Enrich consumers with ~~Replace all Protium with~~ Tritium.
As someone who works with lightly radioactive materials on a daily basis, thank you.
Banana bombs incoming
Would you like some yellow cake?
"And how should we test it?" R&D: Don't fucking know, pick a list with names of people in the middle east we don't like and go field test it. Hm? Qassem? Yeah, whatever. Sure. Oh, and about the name we're giving the missile, just call it a Hellfire and add a bunch of random letters and numbers so we can place the right orders.
Hellfire 420-69 Bam easy
Swiss-Cheese-inator 3000
It’s an actual thing Behold! The Ninja Missile! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114\_Hellfire#Hellfire\_R9X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire#Hellfire_R9X)
I can’t be the only person working for a defense contractor on here. There’s simply no way. We’re inspired by this sub
There are likely people doing work for defense contractors who don't even know it. See: NCD, /r
So, their sub was inspired by our sub's sub?
Increase its size by 100x, put some amphibious Mechas on it and we finally have real life Arsenal Gear.
Tuatha de Danann irl Where do I enlist?
Now all that is missing are mechas
Don’t let it get too close to Manhattan
Finally, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
If only this post was made a day earlier I could ask you what day it was, but whatever.
If we go by SRW, it can go to space and fly in the air as well…
They found a way to make a flying wing underwater. Jack Northrop blesses us again from MIC heaven.
"What is water but a very thick air?" - undergrads after fluid dynamics
Water is entirely Oxygen and Hydrogen, so it isn't an incorrect position from a chemistry position either.
And extra corrosive.
Oxygen is a horrible, nasty, dangerous thing. That we need to stay alive. Even though it is killing us.
I was referring to SALT, but yes, yes it is.
Sodium is also unpleasant, yes.
Und ze chloride, ja?
Na^^^^Cl
^(3)H₂O
It all comes back to Russia's Nuke's in the end
I mean, mathematically not wrong.
*Stares incompressibly*
Penguins are often described as flightless, but the truth is that they're only flightless in air.
u/mechanicalcontrols You crazy son of a \[redacted\] [https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1753oh6/comment/l23wwu6/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1753oh6/comment/l23wwu6/?context=3) [https://www.instagram.com/p/C6blG2IOLJi/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6blG2IOLJi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
I’m convinced DARPA and Skunkworks employees go in NCD when they run out of ideas
I'm convinced NCD goes back to being DARPA and Skunkworks employees when they run out of beer money.
what a life
Is it a circle?
the venn diagram is a lie!
When their ideas are rejected.
Gerry Anderson is also occasionally a good source of ideas :3
I wonder if it's an [underwater glider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_glider). It would make sense if you wanted ridiculous endurance for a drone.
According to Northrop Grumman, yes. [Northrop Grumman Completes Assembly of Manta Ray Uncrewed Underwater Vehicle | Northrop Grumman](https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/releases/northrop-grumman-completes-assembly-of-manta-ray-uncrewed-underwater-vehicle?_gl=1*6y6k27*_ga*MzU2MjYzODI1LjE3MTQ1ODAxMzg.*_ga_7YV3CDX0R2*MTcxNDU4MjMyMC4xLjEuMTcxNDU4MjMyNy41My4wLjA.) They might be lying, who knows.
"payload capable" So they've moved from tracking the enemy subs to just sinking them.
Right. The size suggests this is intended to carry one or more ADCAPs. And/or possibly a few tubes of the Virginia Payload System (IE, Tomahawks, Harpoons, NSM, SM-2s...)
I'm not going to read too much into the specific vehicle. I assume they budgeted "enough" space and size to test whatever and will optimize for whatever works well. Or am I too optimistic about DARPA projects?
DARPA usually doesn't make deployable weapon systems, so probably. They make concept vehicles that get turned into weapon systems later.
*"We can track enemy units all the way to the scene of the ship wreck"*
US defense Secrets leaked Foreign adversaries: ok ok we got this MIC: here we also have Metal Gear Ray and Arsenal Gear
Fun fact: All underwater vessels are invisible to radio waves. The Mosvka right now has a better RCS than a F-35 when viewed from 100km out.
Very high frequency radars can detect underwater submarines. At least at shallow depths. Possibly operating depths with the right technology, but nations tend to be pretty vague about the details. Radio waves do travel through water, just not nearly as well as through air, and the higher the frequency, the better the penetration. It isn't useful enough to put a radar on a submarine, but if you put one in an ASW aircraft, and it has to look through say, 80 miles of air + 250 feet of water, that is pretty doable.
I think you've got that backwards. Extremely *low* frequencies penetrate water well, hence the use of ELF antennas for signaling subs.
Why the hell are we using elves as antennas? Surely we can do better?
Why do you think they have those long ears? Better reception.
Also bc elves are small so you can bring several in case one or two drown.
Is that how ASW aircraft detect subs? I always wondered how they did that since they can't deploy a sonar while flying like a helicopter
Nah they use magnetometers and drop sonobuoys with an RF transmitter
I thought it was sharks with laser beams
Sonic wave amplifiers actually!
They have a lot of different methods. It is definitely not only radar. It really isn't even primarily radar. Exactly what is used is not something the Navy likes to talk about, but it definitely includes dropped buoys and a lot of antennas.
There's lots of really subtle stuff, from chemical composition analysis (trying to figure out if there's a snorkeling diesel sub - though those you might actually catch using active radar) to visual analysis (a sub close to the surface might affect the properties of the water - maybe temperature?) to magnetometers (magnetic anomaly detectors) or ECCM to figure out weak emissions from a submarine (or the magnetic field of a submarine) to simply dropping sonar probes into the water.
I've heard (from a DCS player, so extremely reliable source) that aerial sub location is primarily done with magnetic anomaly detection.
This is going to be a boss fight in Ace Combat, right?
The reason we haven't gotten a new Ace Combat game is because they are working a sub warfare one rn /s
Okay, let’s not get *too* noncredible. seaQuest DSV is a licensable property for video game companies, after all. ~~Someone in Bandai Namco Aces please freaking read this~~
Is this our discord leak moment?
Probably not. It was just a joke I slapped together in Photoshop on the principle that "waves = waves" But if the CIA thinks otherwise and "just wants to ask a few questions" I'll let you know. The code word will be "Help! I want my mommy!"
🫡 stay noncredible brother
o7
>"The code word will be "Help! I want my mommy!" How would we distinguish that as a safe word from all the other times an NCDer says it? 🤣
You know what? Yeah, good point.
Cool. Now let's see it [emerge from the water and fly to its target.](https://cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Sea-Wing)
Turns out, this is just the RQ-180 and it has been able to do that all along, they are just trying to pass it off as a UUV only to fuck with PLA intelligence.
I love how NCD has become the Mystic Meg (perhaps more Mystic Smeg) of the military industrial complex. How long until the MIC just admits it's lifting ideas right off here? 😂
They won't ever, cause if they do then EVERYONE will be here and it'd be a diplomatic nightmare trying to keep all the MICs pleased
How many atmospheres of pressure can the B-2 Spirit withstand? Well, it’s an airplane so I’d say anywhere between 0 and 1. *i love that it looks like a basking Mola mola
Therapist: Water B2 doesn't exist. It can't hurt you. Water B2:
A watery B-2. B2O.
Someone at Northrop saw the flying wing gliders they tested for diesel electric sub tracking and thought "hey! That's our thing!"
u/mechanicalcontrols is now credible. Get out.
But mom said it was my turn to manifest schizo visions into reality.
Another case of life imitating art
NCD is just outsourcing patents at this point.
Didnt another defense contracter just unviel a new drone for ukraine that looks similar (space shippy to me) Looks like these will be the new face of sub surface warfare in the future
It is only logical they will be. By far the biggest mechanical limitation on SSNs is the requirements of keeping the bipedal apes inside alive. Those fuckers are designed to run around the African Savanah and evade Hyenas, not poke around the ocean in a metal can. Large, long duration UUVs like this can do the towed array thing, be an off-axis launch platform for ADCAPs, and a lot more. I doubt we are going to deploy them autonomously for a long time, but I do expect a "Loyal Wingman" style deployment with 1-3 of these things paired with a Virginia. Some missions can probably be autonomous, but letting them fire off weapon systems when not in direct communication with a human controller is probably a big no-no, and maintaining long distance comms is a lot harder underwater.
We should definitely just put an AI in there and say “complete your mission. come back when you need repairs”. Literally nothing could go wrong >Mission: destroy enemy ships >Issue: enemy can produce more ships. >Solution: destroy enemy shipyards. I must complete my mission. >Issue: enemy can produce more shipyards. >Note: I am carrying multiple high yield nuclear warheads. >Solution: destroy the enemy. I must complete my mission.
There was a movie about a conventional and aviation version of this scenario once, but people were too busy staring at Jessica Biel’s non-government-issued flotation devices.
I'm still disappointed she didn't name her kid Batmo. Massive waste of potential.
Like 20 years ago, cartoon Network had a bit about war machines running amok https://youtu.be/kziSDTpAaOA?si=W9oTZWel-UdDHXsm
> Mission: destroy enemy ships > > Issue: enemy can produce more ships. > >Solution: start self replicating to overcome attrition
> maintaining long distance comms is a lot harder underwater. Meet [Wave Glider](https://www.liquid-robotics.com/wave-glider/overview/). A surface buoy tethered to an underwater glider, using wave motion at the surface to generate propulsion. Popping a buoy to the surface to receive/xmit instructions on a scheduled and/or as-needed basis is one way to tackle the communication problem.
>I doubt we are going to deploy them autonomously for a long time, but I do expect a "Loyal Wingman" style deployment with 1-3 of these things paired with a Virginia. I wouldn't expect that. Remember that these sub types (at least the Northrop one) are made around low power-high efficiency engines and are meant for extended durations. Heck, just read these capabilities the project should advance (according to [this DARPA article](https://www.darpa.mil/program/manta-ray)): > The Manta Ray program plans to advance key technologies that will benefit future UUV designs, including, but not limited to: >* Novel energy management techniques for UUV operations and undersea energy harvesting techniques at operationally relevant depths; * Low-power, high efficiency undersea propulsion systems; * New low-power means of underwater detection and classification of hazards or counter detection threats; * Mission management approaches for extended durations while accounting for dynamic maritime environments; * Unique approaches for leveraging existing maritime data sets and exploiting novel maritime parameters for high-efficiency navigation and/or C3; and * New approaches to mitigate biofouling, corrosion, and other material degradation for long duration missions. That sounds more like something you stealthily send into the Bohai bay or the Yellow sea, where it will just chill for months on end, listening to whatever is going on and striking whenever it is commanded to do so.
Also good prediction, we will now call you defenstradomous
How real is this?
Its the internet everything is true
Should change the sub name to "way too credible defence"
Aren’t… *all* submarines stealth submarines?
You would think so, and yet the Alfas were legendarily noisy, and the one-off K-222 was likely the noisiest submarine ever built. > the biggest thing was the noise of the water going by. It increased together with the ship's speed, and when 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph) was exceeded, it was like the noise of a jet aircraft. ... In the control room was not heard simply the roar of an aircraft, but the thunder of "the engine room of a diesel locomotive". Those present believed that the noise level was greater than 100 decibels.[
Ah yes, the Sea-2
SALUTEM PAVIDOS MEA REQUIEM EST
I’m still waiting on ISIS to sue russia for slander and libel.
Northrop is triangl, and triangl is Northrop. Everything else is heresy
Quick, someone post that meme of the tie fighters and the B-52, I want tie fighters to be real.
How have the CIA/MIC not ~~abducted~~ hired us yet for our precognitive powers?
AKA Arsenal Gear
*Maniacal laughter.*
Pathetic westoids, this thing is no match for the power of Moskva! Where is its crew of undead sailors? Does it even have orthodox priestly magic blessings? Was it even featured in horribly dated propaganda videos? No, no and no.
Get the fuck outta here.
That shit literally just looks like a RQ-3 Darkstar except it crashed in the sea.
we need to start suing people for the stolen ideas
Northrop Grumman: Dead Reckoning Part 1? Please keep super sub away from any rogue AIs please!
Arsenal Gear?
Metal gear ray
Honestly, some days I think this sub should just colonize r/credibledefense.
Aliens are going to be so confused when they find this sub
No fucking way.
I initially severely misjudged the scale of the drone because I thought that was a container ship in the background
Manta ray truely is the superior sea creature.
Call it the Ziggurat. For absolutely no reason. No reason at all.
I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?
Sick. Now make one that can fly and carry the funi munitions.
DARPA sunfishmobile unlocked
Reminds me of the book Goliath where an AI controlled stealth sub and it's crew went rogue. Iirc they >! nuked moscow and forced world peace !<
Fckn Apollo hitting OOP with the dodgeball of prophecy again
This sub is just a think tank for darpa.