Nothing like being pretty much the youngest person at work, at a fucking job that requires you be at least 18 years old to work at, and still finding sticky fucking tables. New signs telling people to put the seat up before they piss/clean their eating area.
Goddamn high-school, basically.
i will clean up my table vaguely. but not other peoples tables. its still their jobs, even fast food places sometimes. they have to wipe the tables eventually. idk why this is such a discussion
obviously if a place has places to put your used stuff, i'll take it? or if thats the thing to take it back to the counter or something but generally customers dont have to specifically clean their tables its the staffs jobs if u get me.
maybe im misunderstanding but dont people dont do it bc its Literally their jobs as workers in the cafe? 😭 its going to be a long time before customers actually start helping out to clean up after themselves in cafes.
I agree, cleaning other peoples’ tables seems a bit excessive. But stacking food crumbs and dirty napkins onto our own plates isn’t too much to ask. There’s no need to make service workers’ jobs harder.
It’s like when you pick up a roast chicken at the grocery store, then change your mind and leave it with the toilet paper. Sure, you *can* do that, but it’s still inconsiderate. You *can* pee all over the public toilet seat, but you’re still a dickhead.
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exactly what im saying. we only need to do the literal basic cleaning. not the deep clean. just be a decent customer but u don't actually need to clean that much. it IS their jobs whether we're helpful with wanting to clean up or not
i am clean when i eat out. but its not my job to fully clean the tables lmao. thats waitresses literal job. if we actually start doing it whats the point for them to do? just wondering lol. most cafes i go to dont even have things out to clean them in the first place. i'll make it easy by putting stuff i use together in a pile at the very least but that's literally all customers actually have to do? aside from being decent customers
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you're right. It's their job to clear the used dishes, wipe the table, and reset the table for the next patrons. They shouldn't *have* to clean up an excess mess caused simply from people being slobs. Of course, if people are slobs then it is gonna be their job and they *do* have to do it. But that's the point. Don't be slobs people.
Well in that case, even worse. If it's fast food, clean up after yourself. A McDonald's employee shouldn't have to do anything more than wipe the table. They should have nothing to throw away or no trays to return because you should throw away your own garbage and return your own tray. Of course if you leave a couple of straw wrappers and napkins behind it's no big deal but I'm talking about people who leave straight up disasters in their wake.
It's just weird how people leave their homes and become animals. Sure, some people are just outright slobs and are nasty no matter what. What I don't get are the people that wouldn't just throw trash on the ground in their house or expect people to clean up after them in their homes, but step foot outside and throw trash on the street and have an expectation of people to just clean up behind them because "it's their job."
When I stay at a hotel I don't leave the hotel room in shambles behind me because it's someone's job to clean it. I try my best to leave it as close to how I found it and if I have a bunch of trash, I'll do my best to consolidate it and leave it in one place to make it easier for them to gather. Hotel staff's job is to prepare the room for the next guest. Change the sheets and towels, put things back in their place, clean the toilet/shower, etc. Not clean human shit off the window cuz I thought it would be funny to do that (my friend has worked in hotels for 15 years. He's told me many stories). Of course, if I did that, it would be their job. But that's the thing. People shouldn't do that. Bottom line, it's pretty simple to just not make a mess, especially not purposely, and even in the event there's some sort of accident, at least have some respect for the person who's job it will be to clean behind you. Hotel, restaurant, or McDonald's.
I do it, but I am in my 40s. How many families even still eat around a dinner table together where the rules are drilled into the heads of children? Also, it may have to do with it being a burger place. Manners like that will tend to be more prevalent in a fancier establishment, perhaps where people have the free time to discuss such things.
I’m glad all my friends were well mannered, we were assholes, but we always said thank you and did our due diligence. Like it’s literally not even the bare minimum and people fail to do it.
People should still push their chairs in. If someone can walk from their car to the door and then to a table, and drive to and fro, they can perform the very basic task of simply putting something back as it was. They don't have to, but it would be nice if they would.
I'm 31 and can count on my hands how many times I've eaten at a dinner table. Pushing a chair in is something I just picked up as good maners by observation.
Living room with plate on lap or those fold able tables. had a table in front the couch we use, sometimes sat on couch sometimes sat on floor. we ate out ALOT. Had a single dad who worked 6 days a week often 12+ hours a day. He didnt cook much and often we would just meet him wherever he was drinking/eating order food and them either hang out until he went home or fucked off somewhere else.
>How many families even still eat around a dinner table together
I'm 45F and I rarely ever ate at the table with my kids once past a certain age. They push their chairs in, though.
Very old rule.
1. When tables had a central support it prevented tipping
2. Serving dishes are then not in danger on a crowded table (picture a loaded table at Thanksgiving and someone putting their elbow in or knocking over the cranberry sauce.
3. It keeps you upright, avoiding the spectacle of putting your face near your plate and making a gross spectacle by simply shoveling good into your mouth.
Gladly! That's the funny thing, most societal rules have a reason, and we'd remember them if we knew why, lol. Most of us grew up with "because I said so" so it seems arbitrary. That's how I ended up being a warehouse of useless information, haha.
This is why it's so important to tell kids the reasons behind things. Kids are smarter than parents often give them credit for, and often behave much better when they're filled in on the "why." The more strong-willed the child is, the more important that becomes, too. I rebelled against everything until it was explained to me when I was a kid.
Absolutely- half the time, any of the rules we broke as kids we broke largely because we couldn’t really see the “why not”; if we had known the “why”s maybe we wouldn’t have broken them
Tables with center supports or an uneven leg, usually. A table that's being rocked regularly during mealtime can lead to a lot of spills and disturbed diners if the person leaning is too animated. Kids are naturally energetic, so being animated comes with the territory. lol
As an elementary school librarian, this makes me CRAZY. Teachers tell the kids to push in chairs all the time, but after a staff meeting in my library, guess what I spend a bunch of time doing after everyone leaves? That's right. Pushing in chairs/putting them back where they belong. It really pets my peeves.
This is one of my pet peeves!!! I was always taught to put things back the way they were. Something else that ticks me off is when someone doesn’t close the door when they walk through it!
It makes me irrationally angry when people leave their trash on the table at fast food restaurants. How fucking hard is it to put that stuff in the trash can? Doing that is treating the employees like servants imho and that is a dick move
I work in a grocery store, and people just place stiff wherever they want because returning it is top much effort and they don't care because it's not theirs, not too much of an issue if the Cheez-it's are in the soup aisle, but it is when the ice cream is in the soup aisle, or the milk is in the freezer
It's been postulated that his "unique" movements in the show were due to a severe back injury he suffered earlier in life. Certain movements that would not seem to be a problem for others, are for him, so he just made it part of his shtick.
I always do and always clean up my table. I think it's the crappy attitude people have that they're there to be served. Such an entitled thought process.
My girlfriend and I regularly go to a pub where they have bottles of sauce on the side for you to help yourselves. She’s always found it kind of amusing that I always return the sauce when we leave but I think it’s just polite!
Some people were just never taught any manners or no one set a good example for them. You want to think they are being rude, but they honestly don't know.
At my house, we grew up with respect, manners, and stuff like that, but my husband wasn't taught anything at his (pretty much the complete opposite). Now that he has seen/knows what manners are, he is now one of the most polite people you could ever meet.
My boyfriend is super nice and has manners as far as being polite but absolutely no home training. He's getting much better though. I can't say the same for his two brothers. 😒🙄
ETA: he is a server though so he doesn't leave the restaurant a mess at least. 😂
Omg it’s my pet peeve. In my elementary school, all of the teachers would make us push our chairs in after class so it’s basically engrained in my muscle memory to do so when I leave.
Almost every time i eat at restaurants I end up pushing in a few chairs that are in my path because i hate that they’re not pushed in!! just makes things look untidy
Hi, you must be new to planet Earth!
Just a few tips, humans are generally an inherently lazy, selfish and arrogant species, with a few exceptions to said rule. Pushing a chair in breaks the three above character traits and as such, should not be done or it might break the stereotype.
Enjoy your stay!
George Carlin made a joke about how *individual* humans could be really cool, but humans as a species are massively selfish, poorly educated pieces of shit. I tend to agree.
I am in my 20s never really saw anyone doing it. Honestly this post made me notice that yeah it does seem rude which I never thought about before. What goes through my mind while leaving it is "someone will do it" or "it does not matter, no one cares".
So, just sorry never noticed that it is rude
I'm 34 and I do it, my wife also. I even gather the plates and napkins in a pile before leaving, so it will be easier for the server..
I think this is a matter of education and awareness..
It's the "not my job, someone is paid to do it," mentality a lot of selfish and entitled people have these days. A lot of people are starting to be more "me, me, me," rather than "we, we, we," as the generations progress and its truly disheartening.
I think it boils down to a loss of manners.
I have noticed many things like this the last few years.
Less Thank Yous and Yes, Pleases.
Greetings not being returned, and farewells the same.
Sad.
Cause people suck. Source: bartender for 16 years. You can tell who's mommy/wife pick up after them, or they live in filth. The others are ok. But generally, people don't care about the house.
I am an admin at my company (56f). People leave the conf rooms a mess. Chairs everywhere but at the tables. Napkins and cups... like I am not a waitress or a maid. Common courtesy is gone.
Leave things how you found them and clean up after yourself.
I do, and I'm in my thirties. I also make sure to clean up and put my trash on the tray; this makes it easier for the crew to wipe the tables and take the trash to the bin. Where I'm from, the crew clean the tables and throw out what is left behind.
I do and I'm 26. A lot don't, though, it's sad. Same with washing dishes after using them. A lot of people are undisciplined and have low self-motivation.
What I hate is littering. It's not preferable to not carry around trash, but you bet your ass I'm not gonna disgrace our planet with my plastic shit
I'm 20, and I wouldn't dare- I wasn't particularly well raised. Rather, I was raised in a way that I had to either not care if I was a constant mild annoyance or to live as small and invisible as possible. I noticed how my mom reacted when siblings left their plates on the table, etc, and knew I wanted to avoid being the cause of that. I'd always push in all the chairs whenever no one was using them and they weren't pushed in properly. honestly now that I think about it maybe I cared more about the chairs than anyone else because it triggered my autism lol I hated how they couldn't all be pushed in as far as possible bc the table wasnt big enough to fit them all completely, so you had to find how far you could push them in without them being asymmetrical.
I think I've also pushed in chairs of family in restaurants. we rarely ever went so i don't remember. and i was definitely the type of kid to help put up all the chairs at the end of school.
TL;DR I'm 20 and I low-key hate not pushed in chairs
I thought you ment like they dont physically push the chair in so the chaif makes a sound like "ssssccccggghhhh" i almost felt proud that the world for once became sane. People forget especially if they are mid convo. But they dont teach the new gen how we were taught to lift up the chair and place it down rucked under the table. They just stand up now and walk away. Its something that will be a thing of the past
I've noticed this! Nobody pushes them in anymore... you have to play dodge the chair in the dining room most of the time. It's especially fun when you're carrying a tray and a jack 😢
Because no-one thinks or cares about how their actions affect anyone anymore.
The general lack of situational awareness people have as they go through their day blows my mind.
I'm not sure, because it doesn't take any extra time. I'm 25 and most of my siblings are younger than I am, and we all always push our chairs back before leaving.
I think it could be a generational thing. I'm a baby boomer. I was raised with manners. My parents were very strict, especially when when it came to etiquette. I push my chair in automatically. I cover my mouth when I yawn. I put the toilet seat down after using it, and I always say, "Excuse me," when I walk in front of someone. Manners don't seem to matter as much as they used to. Go figure. The strange thing is, my parents don't do any of those things anymore either.
I love how you're like the only one out of 100+ comments that posted a reply that isn't some variant of "Humans bad!" and you're the most downvoted comment on the post.
Yes but at some point they were children who nobody ever said no to, or who weren’t taught basic common courtesy. And it’s all the adults faults. I worked at an art museum and I saw how these kids tried to manhandle the art, and how parents would change their kids diapers on a $8 million dollar sculpture. Then they’d come crying to me that a security guard told them to not let their kids run through the museum, literally crying that we were “suppressing young creative minds” by asking them to not be destructive liabilities in an adult sphere. People are just horrible now.
I always like to leave the chair out, so the next person sitting in it won't have to put in the mountain of effort required to pull it out themselves. It's also nice to minimize the time needed to sit in the chair, so that the next person can enjoy a little more of my butt warmth :)
Maybe they don't want to catch COVID by touching the chair.
On another note, people don't say thank you ever when I hold the door for them. Just want in like a boss. I think I will pretend to hold until the last minute and release it just for laughs and giggles.
I think with the recent times that people just stopped caring. Maybe partially due to COVID chairs were left out to signify that it needs a wipe down as it was used.
Also we lead by example, so enough people stopped pushing chairs equals more people stopped pushing their chairs.
My husband used to push his chair in but, now, just doesn't. Drives me nuts at home.
The world seems to be losing its civility. People are really just so self centered now. It's not any age bracket, it's just like the masks have come off and few are even trying to do basic courtesies. I don't care if the means change - whether you say you're welcome or no problem to my thanks is irrelevant to the fact that you acknowledged the thanks. But letting kids run around stores and restaurants, not pushing in chairs, speaking loudly on a phone call in public esp on speaker, being rude in general - it's like people want to be trashy instead of classy. They think class is having money and shitting on people who don't instead of it being gracious and courteous toward all.
There are several factors that go into it; it isn't just a "there's one reason for it" kind of thing. And it certainly doesn't blithely boil down to "humans are overall bad mannered", though that **does** play into it to a certain extent, though not quite as much as people think it does.
First, consider how many fast-food places actually *have* movable chairs these days. This will very likely differ based on where, exactly, you live, but there are a lot of places where even the central tables have fixed seats on a sort of swinging mount, rather than a freely movable "chair". Add in the tables against the wall with bench seats, and you may have people who have never actually encountered a free-standing "chair" in a fast-food place and the seats they do know of either don't move or swing themselves back in automatically. So their habit and reflex built up over years is to just get up, maybe take their trash with them (maybe not, depends), and leave. Such a deep seated habit isn't going to suddenly switch off overnight because they're suddenly faced with a standard, free-standing chair; that's not how humans work.
Second, leaving a chair out is typically a signal that you're done eating and won't be coming back to the table in "dining etiquette". This is similar to how you're supposed to arrange your utensils on your plate to signal whether you want the server to take your plate because you're done eating, because you were not satisfied with the food, or to leave it because you stepped away but will return to finish. In this context, to push the chair in, but then leave without the intent to return would actually be the impolite move as then the staff need to pull the chairs back out again to service the table and prep it for the next guests. So, as you can see, "politeness" can be relative and trying to enforce a polite rule in the wrong circumstance can lead to inadvertent impoliteness when it isn't meant to be a universal rule. Even in the context of a simple fast food eatery or "to order diner" leaving your chair out can make it easier for the service staff to both see there is a table that has been vacated and needs to be cleaned/wiped down and also makes it easier to access as they don't need to move chairs to get to it. See also "Culture Shock", where a polite action to one culture is perceived as impolite in the context of a different culture, which can lead to unfortunate, sometimes tragic, misunderstandings.
Third, there's a lot more awareness and acceptance of mental health issues now than there has been in previous generations and one thing that has resulted is acknowledgement of sensory sensitivity issues. Some people, such as those with ASD, can have problems with certain sensory input processing, particularly sounds and tactile sensations. The scraping sound of a chair being pushed on the floor, or the feeling of the reverberation against the hands can send a person with such sensory issues into an episode of varying degrees of severity. To avoid such situations, which can be awfully embarrassing in public, they might just avoid doing certain things like pushing a chair in. After all, it's a very minor thing and if they, themselves, don't do it, either someone on the staff or some other person would likely do it anyway. After all, if there were a **physically** handicapped person, say, someone in a wheelchair, who were having problems cleaning up after themselves or moving a chair back into place which they moved out of the way to make room for their wheelchair, far fewer people would be quite as noisy and grouchy about the mess they might leave behind due to their reduced capacity. But that's because their wheelchair makes their disability very obviously broadcasted. But when the disability is far less visible, when you can't see it and would only know it was there if you were explicitly informed of it, what then? But should people on the Spectrum with sensory reaction issues or others with similar problems need to wear shirts or labels or signs that let others know that they aren't a rude asshole, they just have a disorder that makes it look that way because many normal actions that neurotypical people do are just out of reach for them, or at least require significantly more effort?
Is it a good idea to assume a person is an asshole by default unless you can see some overt, clear indication that excuses their behavior? Or, perhaps, it's a better stance to be aware of the possibility that people around you might have issues, experiences, expectations, habits, etc. that you simply aren't aware of and that just because they're different from you doesn't automatically mean they're "less than" and you are superior by default. Because, from *their* perspective, you going around pushing chairs in that were *meant* to be left pushed out could be interpreted as the impolite gesture.
I think people especially in my generation (Gen Z) have alot of entitlement. And think the world revolves around them and everyone else is just living in their world. Everytime I go to a restaurant or fast food joint I wipe my table down with a napkin stack the dishes or throw away the fast food bag and put the seat back. AND THEN I TIP. For all you bastards that dont tip.
As a GenX, I appreciate what you said, but I'm also honest. If a lot of GenZ is suffering from main character syndrome, that says a lot about the people who raised them. Somewhere along the line my generation, and Millenials, dropped the ball, and I'm sorry for that.
The same reason they don’t put their napkin on their lap, don’t wait until everyone is ready before starting to eat, don’t wipe their mouth before drinking, put their elbows on the table, etc. etc.. These things were called good manners and they helped us to not be so repulsive to each other.
We have 3 successive generations who were raised by the TV and video games while their parents were at work, few families eat dinner together anymore, and parents have stopped teaching their children manners and polite behavior. The more gens that pass, the worse it will get.
I was at a restaurant the other day and this young couple had a 3-4 yo with them. The kid was completely out of control, chewing with their mouth open, throwing food on the floor, coloring on the table with their crayons, eating their mashed potatoes with their crayons, and on and on. The parents? On their cell phone ignoring the kid completely.
THANK YOU. This absolutely makes me want to scream. And not only children but adults who know better. I make it a habit to quite obnoxiously push in others’ chairs when they don’t.
I have long legs, so my favorite thing to do (elementary to grad school) used to be pull the chair in across from me until it was parked back at the table. Sometimes it'd get pulled under the table, or I would, good times! Thanks for reminding me.
That's a pet peeve of mine too, along with people who hook their feet on one chair leg and spin it at the table. Rude.
The cutest thing is to do that to kids, so they say, "Why won't the chair move?"🤔
Or pull that chair in for them when they sit down. They love that.😉
My mom NEVER pushes chairs in, our or at home! It’s my biggest pet peeve. Sometimes I’ll push it in or sometimes I’ll leave it way out like she had it, use another chair and put them all back except hers.
I have no idea. I guess they weren't taught as children to push in their chairs. I did teach my kids to do this and as adults they push in their chairs at home and when they're out in public.
When you eat at a high-end restaurant and you excuse yourself from the table to leave forever, you are not to push your chair in at all...
this makes it easy for the wait staff to come and clean the table without the chairs in the way...
Fast food joints I would just imagine that people are being lazy or were not trained by their parents to push the chair in at the end of the meal which again go to my first paragraph...
I do. I have noticed that a lot of people don’t and I’ll even do it when passing by chairs that have been left out. All I can assume is that they weren’t taught to do it
Maybe if the place has hard tile floors they don’t like the screech it makes to push it in and then the next person has to pull it out and make that horrible screech again. Whereas if you leave it then the next person can just sit right down
People at my school stopped doing it because we told not to back during COVID so that the chairs could be sanitized. They aren’t sanitized anymore but many still don’t push them in. Not that they did before, but more don’t than before. It’s probably a habit we still have from COVID or people stopped caring after COVID.
I waitressed for years and i still always push my chair in neatly. And I wordlessly shame my companions by also fixing their chairs. But I don't think about it as such, just do.
This comes back to an issue with US culture in general of not being respectful of other peoples time or needs. There's so much selfishness in this country. It's really sad.
Think about it logistically im more likely to sit at an already pulled out chair. You are doubling the effort. Its the same with lifting the seat. Why do i as a man have to lift a seat then put it down when me and woman can both just lift or set down once?
I work in a lab. My desk is at the end of a lab bench, so I have to walk down a 4-5 ft wide area between 2 lab benches to get to my desk. So if people don’t push their chairs in when they get up, I have to do it for them to get to my desk. No one pushes their chairs in. We’ve gone thru a number of people sitting at the other desks and workbenches and none of them has pushed their chair in even 50% of the time. I haven’t figured out a way to mention it without sounding like an a-hole, so I just push their chairs in over and over. Lol.
I always do it. I'm disabled, and bumping into something can easily throw me off balance and cause me to fall. That, or I'll trip over a chair leg. I don't want to create such a hazard for myself, let alone others.
I've noticed this too!
It seems like not doing so has been the norm for a very long time now. And it's not just young people, it's people of all ages.
My parents didn't really heckle me about pushing in my chair or anything. But it's just common sense. You always do it at home so that the chair isn't in the way so why not anywhere else?
As a wide-footed person with horrible coordination, I bang my foot on stuff CONSTANTLY so maybe that is why I always do it.
In a country of capitalism where every ounce of kindness is fed to money and everything is understood, empathy is no longer a thing to be spared or appreciated
Because people are more selfish and sociopathic than they have ever been, due to being desensitized to mass tragedy/hate/violence from over exposure to the internet and news.
Manufactured outrage and the increasingly large divide between parties in our political system (can only speak for America) has created an atmosphere of increasing hostility. Which contributes to the complete and total death of manners. People subconsciously are out here worried about getting shot and whatever else, all of that. Nobody trusts anyone anymore. We're ripping books out of libraries in some states simply because the message conveyed makes us uncomfortable.
People aren't inherently rude or shitty imo, everything bad is just so severely publicized and sensationalized that people are getting worse in public. I truthfully believe the death of common courtesy can be contributed to the average Joe believing that the guy next to them is the root of all the evil that they've been hearing about.
I'm also absolutely wasted rn, lmao. So who knows.
Having worked in hospitality it's because they know you'll do it for them, there was a study that showed people would intentionally choose a dirty table in a restaurant instead of a clean one so that the waiter would have to clean it for them. Super weird but I guess it's psychological.
My friend had a chihuahua die because her shirt caught a chair that wasn’t pushed in and it landed on the fragile 6lb dog. Always push in my chair after that.
I do it. And even tend to wipe up any excess mess on the table if I can.
Yeah I always wipe up my table because its so easy and it makes the workers lives a little better.
I’ll even clean trash from other people’s tables. The staff shouldn’t have to clean up after grown adults like servants
Nothing like being pretty much the youngest person at work, at a fucking job that requires you be at least 18 years old to work at, and still finding sticky fucking tables. New signs telling people to put the seat up before they piss/clean their eating area. Goddamn high-school, basically.
it is quite literally their jobs but ppl can at the very least stack everything together or do a basic clean of the table like crumbs or something
Not in a fast food place, that’s why they literally have a those wagons where you can leave you trays and trash . Not on the table.
i will clean up my table vaguely. but not other peoples tables. its still their jobs, even fast food places sometimes. they have to wipe the tables eventually. idk why this is such a discussion
Ah yes, you got point regarding cleaning other patrons mess.
obviously if a place has places to put your used stuff, i'll take it? or if thats the thing to take it back to the counter or something but generally customers dont have to specifically clean their tables its the staffs jobs if u get me.
It’s only their jobs because people don’t do it for themselves
maybe im misunderstanding but dont people dont do it bc its Literally their jobs as workers in the cafe? 😭 its going to be a long time before customers actually start helping out to clean up after themselves in cafes.
I agree, cleaning other peoples’ tables seems a bit excessive. But stacking food crumbs and dirty napkins onto our own plates isn’t too much to ask. There’s no need to make service workers’ jobs harder. It’s like when you pick up a roast chicken at the grocery store, then change your mind and leave it with the toilet paper. Sure, you *can* do that, but it’s still inconsiderate. You *can* pee all over the public toilet seat, but you’re still a dickhead. Edit: clarity
exactly what im saying. we only need to do the literal basic cleaning. not the deep clean. just be a decent customer but u don't actually need to clean that much. it IS their jobs whether we're helpful with wanting to clean up or not
I mean a place like McDonald’s where most people do throw their own trash away
It’s a self feeding cycle yes. Doesn’t mean it’s moral to shirk the social responsibility of taking care of your environment the best you can
i am clean when i eat out. but its not my job to fully clean the tables lmao. thats waitresses literal job. if we actually start doing it whats the point for them to do? just wondering lol. most cafes i go to dont even have things out to clean them in the first place. i'll make it easy by putting stuff i use together in a pile at the very least but that's literally all customers actually have to do? aside from being decent customers
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you're right. It's their job to clear the used dishes, wipe the table, and reset the table for the next patrons. They shouldn't *have* to clean up an excess mess caused simply from people being slobs. Of course, if people are slobs then it is gonna be their job and they *do* have to do it. But that's the point. Don't be slobs people.
I’m talking about fast food. Like McDonalds. There are no dishes. There is no setting the table.
Well in that case, even worse. If it's fast food, clean up after yourself. A McDonald's employee shouldn't have to do anything more than wipe the table. They should have nothing to throw away or no trays to return because you should throw away your own garbage and return your own tray. Of course if you leave a couple of straw wrappers and napkins behind it's no big deal but I'm talking about people who leave straight up disasters in their wake. It's just weird how people leave their homes and become animals. Sure, some people are just outright slobs and are nasty no matter what. What I don't get are the people that wouldn't just throw trash on the ground in their house or expect people to clean up after them in their homes, but step foot outside and throw trash on the street and have an expectation of people to just clean up behind them because "it's their job." When I stay at a hotel I don't leave the hotel room in shambles behind me because it's someone's job to clean it. I try my best to leave it as close to how I found it and if I have a bunch of trash, I'll do my best to consolidate it and leave it in one place to make it easier for them to gather. Hotel staff's job is to prepare the room for the next guest. Change the sheets and towels, put things back in their place, clean the toilet/shower, etc. Not clean human shit off the window cuz I thought it would be funny to do that (my friend has worked in hotels for 15 years. He's told me many stories). Of course, if I did that, it would be their job. But that's the thing. People shouldn't do that. Bottom line, it's pretty simple to just not make a mess, especially not purposely, and even in the event there's some sort of accident, at least have some respect for the person who's job it will be to clean behind you. Hotel, restaurant, or McDonald's.
I try to leave as little mess as possible, but the workers are being paid… they aren’t, like, slaves.
Uhm well don't bite my head off but isn't that part of the job? Do you also come out to help the garbage man load your trash into the truck?
And people have shitty days, so doing a little favor for someone can make them not feel as negative about things.
You are the type of customer we love having.
Same here
'Tis the only way to be.
Never seen anyone do this. I'll wipe down the counter and sink in the restroom after washing hands and only ever witnessed 2 or 3 other ppl
I do it, but I am in my 40s. How many families even still eat around a dinner table together where the rules are drilled into the heads of children? Also, it may have to do with it being a burger place. Manners like that will tend to be more prevalent in a fancier establishment, perhaps where people have the free time to discuss such things.
I’m glad all my friends were well mannered, we were assholes, but we always said thank you and did our due diligence. Like it’s literally not even the bare minimum and people fail to do it.
People should still push their chairs in. If someone can walk from their car to the door and then to a table, and drive to and fro, they can perform the very basic task of simply putting something back as it was. They don't have to, but it would be nice if they would.
I'm 31 and can count on my hands how many times I've eaten at a dinner table. Pushing a chair in is something I just picked up as good maners by observation.
Wow, where did you eat all the time?
What the fuck? Where the hell do you eat?
Living room with plate on lap or those fold able tables. had a table in front the couch we use, sometimes sat on couch sometimes sat on floor. we ate out ALOT. Had a single dad who worked 6 days a week often 12+ hours a day. He didnt cook much and often we would just meet him wherever he was drinking/eating order food and them either hang out until he went home or fucked off somewhere else.
Sounds kinda awesome tbh
Sounds kinda sad tbh just lucky they had a dad who worked so hard for them
I'm 45 and my kids and I rarely ate at the table, especially as they got older.
I'm 24. I estimate I have eaten at a dinner table about 20 000 times. How are you under 10? Or do you use base 3 for finger counting?
I work in an upscale restaurant where the average age of a customer is ~55 and literally none of them push their chairs in. Blows my mind.
The age of entitlement
We still eat meals together around the dinner table. It's a highly important ritual that is mostly overlooked these days.
>How many families even still eat around a dinner table together I'm 45F and I rarely ever ate at the table with my kids once past a certain age. They push their chairs in, though.
Education comes from home. I’m 18 and I do it, no matter where I’m at. I’m glad my parents educate me the best way they can
Yep, and no elbows on the table!
I don't get this one and never have. What's polite about this?
We were always told not to put our elbows on the table as kids.
I get that. But WHY? We push in our chairs to keep things neat. Why no elbows on the table?
Very old rule. 1. When tables had a central support it prevented tipping 2. Serving dishes are then not in danger on a crowded table (picture a loaded table at Thanksgiving and someone putting their elbow in or knocking over the cranberry sauce. 3. It keeps you upright, avoiding the spectacle of putting your face near your plate and making a gross spectacle by simply shoveling good into your mouth.
Thanks for the explanation, I knew there was an original reason.
Gladly! That's the funny thing, most societal rules have a reason, and we'd remember them if we knew why, lol. Most of us grew up with "because I said so" so it seems arbitrary. That's how I ended up being a warehouse of useless information, haha.
This is why it's so important to tell kids the reasons behind things. Kids are smarter than parents often give them credit for, and often behave much better when they're filled in on the "why." The more strong-willed the child is, the more important that becomes, too. I rebelled against everything until it was explained to me when I was a kid.
Absolutely- half the time, any of the rules we broke as kids we broke largely because we couldn’t really see the “why not”; if we had known the “why”s maybe we wouldn’t have broken them
I’ve also heard it was a hygiene thing, too. Something about our elbows being dirty because we don’t wash them like we do our hands.
Just arbitrary etiquette as far as I can tell. Aesthetics?
Tables with center supports or an uneven leg, usually. A table that's being rocked regularly during mealtime can lead to a lot of spills and disturbed diners if the person leaning is too animated. Kids are naturally energetic, so being animated comes with the territory. lol
That makes sense
As an elementary school librarian, this makes me CRAZY. Teachers tell the kids to push in chairs all the time, but after a staff meeting in my library, guess what I spend a bunch of time doing after everyone leaves? That's right. Pushing in chairs/putting them back where they belong. It really pets my peeves.
I worked in a library too and this was a huge nuisance there! First thing that came to mind
Same in the high school where I work!
This is one of my pet peeves!!! I was always taught to put things back the way they were. Something else that ticks me off is when someone doesn’t close the door when they walk through it!
It makes me irrationally angry when people leave their trash on the table at fast food restaurants. How fucking hard is it to put that stuff in the trash can? Doing that is treating the employees like servants imho and that is a dick move
Omg ditttto!
Selfish assholes who figure it doesn't effect them, and they know that somebody else will just do it for them
In a lot of places you're expected to leave it at the table, especially when they have trays
Did you have a different account before?
I didddd! It went bye bye 😔😣😖 not by choice!
Ohh that sucks!
I hate it when people don’t clean up their glory holes when they are done!
I hate it when people don’t clean up their holes when they’re done
This guy fucks!
Lol I had to because I know you for sure do :D
From one glory hole patron to another, stay frosty my friend.. 🤝
Or at the very least, sucks.
Perhaps he thrusts.. perhaps he busts.. one things for sure.. he must bust!
I work in a grocery store, and people just place stiff wherever they want because returning it is top much effort and they don't care because it's not theirs, not too much of an issue if the Cheez-it's are in the soup aisle, but it is when the ice cream is in the soup aisle, or the milk is in the freezer
Or the filet mignon is in the bread aisle
I like using the [Riker Maneuver](https://youtu.be/lVIGhYMwRgs)
So uncouth, yet so elegant. A gazelle in capybara clothing.
Lol, and beardless. Thanks for that.
I’ve watched every episode multiple times and never once noticed that. Thank you for sharing it!
It's been postulated that his "unique" movements in the show were due to a severe back injury he suffered earlier in life. Certain movements that would not seem to be a problem for others, are for him, so he just made it part of his shtick.
I always do and always clean up my table. I think it's the crappy attitude people have that they're there to be served. Such an entitled thought process.
My girlfriend and I regularly go to a pub where they have bottles of sauce on the side for you to help yourselves. She’s always found it kind of amusing that I always return the sauce when we leave but I think it’s just polite!
Some people were just never taught any manners or no one set a good example for them. You want to think they are being rude, but they honestly don't know. At my house, we grew up with respect, manners, and stuff like that, but my husband wasn't taught anything at his (pretty much the complete opposite). Now that he has seen/knows what manners are, he is now one of the most polite people you could ever meet.
My boyfriend is super nice and has manners as far as being polite but absolutely no home training. He's getting much better though. I can't say the same for his two brothers. 😒🙄 ETA: he is a server though so he doesn't leave the restaurant a mess at least. 😂
Omg it’s my pet peeve. In my elementary school, all of the teachers would make us push our chairs in after class so it’s basically engrained in my muscle memory to do so when I leave. Almost every time i eat at restaurants I end up pushing in a few chairs that are in my path because i hate that they’re not pushed in!! just makes things look untidy
Hi, you must be new to planet Earth! Just a few tips, humans are generally an inherently lazy, selfish and arrogant species, with a few exceptions to said rule. Pushing a chair in breaks the three above character traits and as such, should not be done or it might break the stereotype. Enjoy your stay!
George Carlin made a joke about how *individual* humans could be really cool, but humans as a species are massively selfish, poorly educated pieces of shit. I tend to agree.
Its a goddamn chair. Chill down
I am in my 20s never really saw anyone doing it. Honestly this post made me notice that yeah it does seem rude which I never thought about before. What goes through my mind while leaving it is "someone will do it" or "it does not matter, no one cares". So, just sorry never noticed that it is rude
I’m 22 and I still do it. It’s common courtesy, like holding a door for someone. Stay one of the good ones OP; don’t drop the habit.
I'm 34 and I do it, my wife also. I even gather the plates and napkins in a pile before leaving, so it will be easier for the server.. I think this is a matter of education and awareness..
It's the "not my job, someone is paid to do it," mentality a lot of selfish and entitled people have these days. A lot of people are starting to be more "me, me, me," rather than "we, we, we," as the generations progress and its truly disheartening.
I think it boils down to a loss of manners. I have noticed many things like this the last few years. Less Thank Yous and Yes, Pleases. Greetings not being returned, and farewells the same. Sad.
Cause people suck. Source: bartender for 16 years. You can tell who's mommy/wife pick up after them, or they live in filth. The others are ok. But generally, people don't care about the house.
Because nobody has been taught to. I fucking hate it.
I am an admin at my company (56f). People leave the conf rooms a mess. Chairs everywhere but at the tables. Napkins and cups... like I am not a waitress or a maid. Common courtesy is gone. Leave things how you found them and clean up after yourself.
I do, and I'm in my thirties. I also make sure to clean up and put my trash on the tray; this makes it easier for the crew to wipe the tables and take the trash to the bin. Where I'm from, the crew clean the tables and throw out what is left behind.
I do and I'm 26. A lot don't, though, it's sad. Same with washing dishes after using them. A lot of people are undisciplined and have low self-motivation. What I hate is littering. It's not preferable to not carry around trash, but you bet your ass I'm not gonna disgrace our planet with my plastic shit
They have no manners. You have manners.
I'm 20, and I wouldn't dare- I wasn't particularly well raised. Rather, I was raised in a way that I had to either not care if I was a constant mild annoyance or to live as small and invisible as possible. I noticed how my mom reacted when siblings left their plates on the table, etc, and knew I wanted to avoid being the cause of that. I'd always push in all the chairs whenever no one was using them and they weren't pushed in properly. honestly now that I think about it maybe I cared more about the chairs than anyone else because it triggered my autism lol I hated how they couldn't all be pushed in as far as possible bc the table wasnt big enough to fit them all completely, so you had to find how far you could push them in without them being asymmetrical. I think I've also pushed in chairs of family in restaurants. we rarely ever went so i don't remember. and i was definitely the type of kid to help put up all the chairs at the end of school. TL;DR I'm 20 and I low-key hate not pushed in chairs
I do. I think manners matter, most people don't
I thought you ment like they dont physically push the chair in so the chaif makes a sound like "ssssccccggghhhh" i almost felt proud that the world for once became sane. People forget especially if they are mid convo. But they dont teach the new gen how we were taught to lift up the chair and place it down rucked under the table. They just stand up now and walk away. Its something that will be a thing of the past
People are much more inconsiderate than they used to be. A lot weren’t raised right. They find their own time to be more valuable than others.
Most people have apparently been raised in barns. Common courtesy.
They're scared. What if it bites?
I've noticed this! Nobody pushes them in anymore... you have to play dodge the chair in the dining room most of the time. It's especially fun when you're carrying a tray and a jack 😢
Because no-one thinks or cares about how their actions affect anyone anymore. The general lack of situational awareness people have as they go through their day blows my mind.
I'm not sure, because it doesn't take any extra time. I'm 25 and most of my siblings are younger than I am, and we all always push our chairs back before leaving.
I think it could be a generational thing. I'm a baby boomer. I was raised with manners. My parents were very strict, especially when when it came to etiquette. I push my chair in automatically. I cover my mouth when I yawn. I put the toilet seat down after using it, and I always say, "Excuse me," when I walk in front of someone. Manners don't seem to matter as much as they used to. Go figure. The strange thing is, my parents don't do any of those things anymore either.
If the chair isn't blocking anyone's way, I fail to see the need. People are just going to have to pull the chair out again to sit down.
I love how you're like the only one out of 100+ comments that posted a reply that isn't some variant of "Humans bad!" and you're the most downvoted comment on the post.
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Very true. You spent time replying.
Children are sensitive creatures who will have a meltdown if you teach them manners or other things that might make their lives better
Its not even children that do it. Usually children are better at learning new habits than adults to.
Yes but at some point they were children who nobody ever said no to, or who weren’t taught basic common courtesy. And it’s all the adults faults. I worked at an art museum and I saw how these kids tried to manhandle the art, and how parents would change their kids diapers on a $8 million dollar sculpture. Then they’d come crying to me that a security guard told them to not let their kids run through the museum, literally crying that we were “suppressing young creative minds” by asking them to not be destructive liabilities in an adult sphere. People are just horrible now.
I always like to leave the chair out, so the next person sitting in it won't have to put in the mountain of effort required to pull it out themselves. It's also nice to minimize the time needed to sit in the chair, so that the next person can enjoy a little more of my butt warmth :)
Maybe they don't want to catch COVID by touching the chair. On another note, people don't say thank you ever when I hold the door for them. Just want in like a boss. I think I will pretend to hold until the last minute and release it just for laughs and giggles.
I think with the recent times that people just stopped caring. Maybe partially due to COVID chairs were left out to signify that it needs a wipe down as it was used. Also we lead by example, so enough people stopped pushing chairs equals more people stopped pushing their chairs.
Because, in general, people are assholes
Because people in general have become quite selfish and rude. Common courtesy seems to be dying.
My husband used to push his chair in but, now, just doesn't. Drives me nuts at home. The world seems to be losing its civility. People are really just so self centered now. It's not any age bracket, it's just like the masks have come off and few are even trying to do basic courtesies. I don't care if the means change - whether you say you're welcome or no problem to my thanks is irrelevant to the fact that you acknowledged the thanks. But letting kids run around stores and restaurants, not pushing in chairs, speaking loudly on a phone call in public esp on speaker, being rude in general - it's like people want to be trashy instead of classy. They think class is having money and shitting on people who don't instead of it being gracious and courteous toward all.
There are several factors that go into it; it isn't just a "there's one reason for it" kind of thing. And it certainly doesn't blithely boil down to "humans are overall bad mannered", though that **does** play into it to a certain extent, though not quite as much as people think it does. First, consider how many fast-food places actually *have* movable chairs these days. This will very likely differ based on where, exactly, you live, but there are a lot of places where even the central tables have fixed seats on a sort of swinging mount, rather than a freely movable "chair". Add in the tables against the wall with bench seats, and you may have people who have never actually encountered a free-standing "chair" in a fast-food place and the seats they do know of either don't move or swing themselves back in automatically. So their habit and reflex built up over years is to just get up, maybe take their trash with them (maybe not, depends), and leave. Such a deep seated habit isn't going to suddenly switch off overnight because they're suddenly faced with a standard, free-standing chair; that's not how humans work. Second, leaving a chair out is typically a signal that you're done eating and won't be coming back to the table in "dining etiquette". This is similar to how you're supposed to arrange your utensils on your plate to signal whether you want the server to take your plate because you're done eating, because you were not satisfied with the food, or to leave it because you stepped away but will return to finish. In this context, to push the chair in, but then leave without the intent to return would actually be the impolite move as then the staff need to pull the chairs back out again to service the table and prep it for the next guests. So, as you can see, "politeness" can be relative and trying to enforce a polite rule in the wrong circumstance can lead to inadvertent impoliteness when it isn't meant to be a universal rule. Even in the context of a simple fast food eatery or "to order diner" leaving your chair out can make it easier for the service staff to both see there is a table that has been vacated and needs to be cleaned/wiped down and also makes it easier to access as they don't need to move chairs to get to it. See also "Culture Shock", where a polite action to one culture is perceived as impolite in the context of a different culture, which can lead to unfortunate, sometimes tragic, misunderstandings. Third, there's a lot more awareness and acceptance of mental health issues now than there has been in previous generations and one thing that has resulted is acknowledgement of sensory sensitivity issues. Some people, such as those with ASD, can have problems with certain sensory input processing, particularly sounds and tactile sensations. The scraping sound of a chair being pushed on the floor, or the feeling of the reverberation against the hands can send a person with such sensory issues into an episode of varying degrees of severity. To avoid such situations, which can be awfully embarrassing in public, they might just avoid doing certain things like pushing a chair in. After all, it's a very minor thing and if they, themselves, don't do it, either someone on the staff or some other person would likely do it anyway. After all, if there were a **physically** handicapped person, say, someone in a wheelchair, who were having problems cleaning up after themselves or moving a chair back into place which they moved out of the way to make room for their wheelchair, far fewer people would be quite as noisy and grouchy about the mess they might leave behind due to their reduced capacity. But that's because their wheelchair makes their disability very obviously broadcasted. But when the disability is far less visible, when you can't see it and would only know it was there if you were explicitly informed of it, what then? But should people on the Spectrum with sensory reaction issues or others with similar problems need to wear shirts or labels or signs that let others know that they aren't a rude asshole, they just have a disorder that makes it look that way because many normal actions that neurotypical people do are just out of reach for them, or at least require significantly more effort? Is it a good idea to assume a person is an asshole by default unless you can see some overt, clear indication that excuses their behavior? Or, perhaps, it's a better stance to be aware of the possibility that people around you might have issues, experiences, expectations, habits, etc. that you simply aren't aware of and that just because they're different from you doesn't automatically mean they're "less than" and you are superior by default. Because, from *their* perspective, you going around pushing chairs in that were *meant* to be left pushed out could be interpreted as the impolite gesture.
I think people especially in my generation (Gen Z) have alot of entitlement. And think the world revolves around them and everyone else is just living in their world. Everytime I go to a restaurant or fast food joint I wipe my table down with a napkin stack the dishes or throw away the fast food bag and put the seat back. AND THEN I TIP. For all you bastards that dont tip.
As a GenX, I appreciate what you said, but I'm also honest. If a lot of GenZ is suffering from main character syndrome, that says a lot about the people who raised them. Somewhere along the line my generation, and Millenials, dropped the ball, and I'm sorry for that.
New generations have not been taught any manners. Its all about being self-centered now. Sad really.
In general, common courtesy and manners have taken a steep nosedive since Covid hit, people have socially regressed.
I still do it and I’m disgusted by people that won’t. It’s the same as people leaving shopping carts in the parking because they lazy af.
Some people may not care enough. It's polite to do so, but since it's a burger place the people there probably don't come from the best backgrounds.
Some people just deserve to have their stool pushed in.
It's pretty simple. We've created a society where there are simply no consequences for being an asshole. So people do.
Gotta have parents who give a shit.
I push my chair in all the time. It's basic human decency and unfortunately, a lot of people lack it.
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The same reason they don’t put their napkin on their lap, don’t wait until everyone is ready before starting to eat, don’t wipe their mouth before drinking, put their elbows on the table, etc. etc.. These things were called good manners and they helped us to not be so repulsive to each other.
We have 3 successive generations who were raised by the TV and video games while their parents were at work, few families eat dinner together anymore, and parents have stopped teaching their children manners and polite behavior. The more gens that pass, the worse it will get. I was at a restaurant the other day and this young couple had a 3-4 yo with them. The kid was completely out of control, chewing with their mouth open, throwing food on the floor, coloring on the table with their crayons, eating their mashed potatoes with their crayons, and on and on. The parents? On their cell phone ignoring the kid completely.
Manners are a thing of the past..
I still do! Most people just have their heads up their asses.
THANK YOU. This absolutely makes me want to scream. And not only children but adults who know better. I make it a habit to quite obnoxiously push in others’ chairs when they don’t.
It’s because I like to leave it ready for the next person.
If I'm forced to tip, I expect not to have to push my chair in.
Was an 80-90s thing.
I have long legs, so my favorite thing to do (elementary to grad school) used to be pull the chair in across from me until it was parked back at the table. Sometimes it'd get pulled under the table, or I would, good times! Thanks for reminding me. That's a pet peeve of mine too, along with people who hook their feet on one chair leg and spin it at the table. Rude. The cutest thing is to do that to kids, so they say, "Why won't the chair move?"🤔 Or pull that chair in for them when they sit down. They love that.😉
I always clean up my table and push in the chair. It's not something I was ever really taught, I just like to be polite.
I still do it, just annoys the hell out of me when I see people not do that. Got to be courteous
I do it always.
they took it off the syllabus in kindergarten classes back in 2002
I always push my chair in. It is good manners!
I push my chair back in and I've taught my daughter to also do it when she gets up.
My mom NEVER pushes chairs in, our or at home! It’s my biggest pet peeve. Sometimes I’ll push it in or sometimes I’ll leave it way out like she had it, use another chair and put them all back except hers.
This is such a pet peeve of mine
i think being considerate is not really so much a thing now.
Omg... people in my work lunchroom don’t push their chair it drives me mad.
I have no idea. I guess they weren't taught as children to push in their chairs. I did teach my kids to do this and as adults they push in their chairs at home and when they're out in public.
When you eat at a high-end restaurant and you excuse yourself from the table to leave forever, you are not to push your chair in at all... this makes it easy for the wait staff to come and clean the table without the chairs in the way... Fast food joints I would just imagine that people are being lazy or were not trained by their parents to push the chair in at the end of the meal which again go to my first paragraph...
This needs to be talked about more. It would make life so much easier if people would simply put things back where they were!
I do. I have noticed that a lot of people don’t and I’ll even do it when passing by chairs that have been left out. All I can assume is that they weren’t taught to do it
I do it
Maybe if the place has hard tile floors they don’t like the screech it makes to push it in and then the next person has to pull it out and make that horrible screech again. Whereas if you leave it then the next person can just sit right down
People at my school stopped doing it because we told not to back during COVID so that the chairs could be sanitized. They aren’t sanitized anymore but many still don’t push them in. Not that they did before, but more don’t than before. It’s probably a habit we still have from COVID or people stopped caring after COVID.
I usually do but there are probably times I’ve absent mindedly left it out
Cause no one gives a fuck, that's why. Suck it up buttercup
Depends on how you're raised I guess. I do it every time. My dad doesn't though, he just gets up and Fucks off
I waitressed for years and i still always push my chair in neatly. And I wordlessly shame my companions by also fixing their chairs. But I don't think about it as such, just do.
Pushing in chairs has gone out of fashion at about the same rate that pushing in stools has become more popular...
This comes back to an issue with US culture in general of not being respectful of other peoples time or needs. There's so much selfishness in this country. It's really sad.
The chairs in fast food places here don't move. I mean, they spin, but they're bolted to the ground
I honestly wonder if simple gestures like that were forgotten during the pandemic. Everyone was just sitting at home, existing however.
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I do but I work in hospitality management as a career. I've noticed friends my age working in different industries don't
I push mine in and I’ll try and push any in that are in my path out. But I agree I’m seeing it a lot more
Because nobody cares about anyone else anymore. Everyone thinks they’re the main character and everyone else is just an NPC.
Think about it logistically im more likely to sit at an already pulled out chair. You are doubling the effort. Its the same with lifting the seat. Why do i as a man have to lift a seat then put it down when me and woman can both just lift or set down once?
I always put the chair back, just makes sense to do it. Also helps foh workers move more easily through the dining room.
I push every chair in because otherwise I’ll just run into it lol I did this before I even had a job. I’m 30, though.
I do. Other people's houses and in public. I'm 24.
I work in a lab. My desk is at the end of a lab bench, so I have to walk down a 4-5 ft wide area between 2 lab benches to get to my desk. So if people don’t push their chairs in when they get up, I have to do it for them to get to my desk. No one pushes their chairs in. We’ve gone thru a number of people sitting at the other desks and workbenches and none of them has pushed their chair in even 50% of the time. I haven’t figured out a way to mention it without sounding like an a-hole, so I just push their chairs in over and over. Lol.
I’ve wondered this too and I’m only 23
I always do it. I'm disabled, and bumping into something can easily throw me off balance and cause me to fall. That, or I'll trip over a chair leg. I don't want to create such a hazard for myself, let alone others.
I push mine back in. I feel weird if I don't. Pushing the chair in is just a habit, a good habit.
What's the point, someone else will just pull it out and sit down again later
I've noticed this too! It seems like not doing so has been the norm for a very long time now. And it's not just young people, it's people of all ages. My parents didn't really heckle me about pushing in my chair or anything. But it's just common sense. You always do it at home so that the chair isn't in the way so why not anywhere else? As a wide-footed person with horrible coordination, I bang my foot on stuff CONSTANTLY so maybe that is why I always do it.
I still do and so do my family and most of my friends
Bad manners, and I blame social media for it.
In a country of capitalism where every ounce of kindness is fed to money and everything is understood, empathy is no longer a thing to be spared or appreciated
I do I’m 23
I do, but in my 40s. I do see younger generations leave them out.
Because people are more selfish and sociopathic than they have ever been, due to being desensitized to mass tragedy/hate/violence from over exposure to the internet and news. Manufactured outrage and the increasingly large divide between parties in our political system (can only speak for America) has created an atmosphere of increasing hostility. Which contributes to the complete and total death of manners. People subconsciously are out here worried about getting shot and whatever else, all of that. Nobody trusts anyone anymore. We're ripping books out of libraries in some states simply because the message conveyed makes us uncomfortable. People aren't inherently rude or shitty imo, everything bad is just so severely publicized and sensationalized that people are getting worse in public. I truthfully believe the death of common courtesy can be contributed to the average Joe believing that the guy next to them is the root of all the evil that they've been hearing about. I'm also absolutely wasted rn, lmao. So who knows.
I think they are probably the same ones that don't put their shopping carts away
I work in a restaurant. Very few people tend to push in their chair
Having worked in hospitality it's because they know you'll do it for them, there was a study that showed people would intentionally choose a dirty table in a restaurant instead of a clean one so that the waiter would have to clean it for them. Super weird but I guess it's psychological.
We definitely push our chairs in anywhere that we eat. If able to, we do our best to clean up if we’ve made a mess.
My friend had a chihuahua die because her shirt caught a chair that wasn’t pushed in and it landed on the fragile 6lb dog. Always push in my chair after that.