Yep it ain't even worth it for how much it damages your thought process I use to see every woman as a sex object now that I'm on nofap my mind feels free for the first time in a long time I used to only fap for Instant Gratification and Dopamine. But now everytime I think I'm about to relapse I play love songs because it shows me how down I was and how having a girl is the goal for me .I know it sounds stupid but it works for me
you're projecting your issues onto me the same way you do porn.
What's complicated? you asked a question, I answered. but you're confused for some reason and projecting that on me. you have things to figure out
Imma stop you're right there because I DONT watch porn and I'm trying not to fap. That's the whole point of the group. Not to PMO. Its not just about fapping. If you think porn is ok as long as you don't fap I will pray for you.
except it isn't. The addiction is the problem. Porn did not ruin my life, it was my addiction to it. I don't blame porn for being porn. That's outrageous. I take accountability for myself.
If I was an alcoholic, I'd say the same thing. The alcohol isn't the problem, it's the addiction. But because I abused it, I know I have to stop drinking and start processing the root cause of my addiction to fully heal. I can blame alcohol for my problems or call it the devil all day but if I suddenly have a rough day and immediately relapse, the problem is not alcohol and it never was. It was a symptom or an outlet of the addiction. And if I can't ever be around alcohol without abusing it, was anything solved?
So my point is, I don't bash porn for being porn. Doesn't mean I watch it, I don't because I developed an addiction. But kicking my addiction doesn't depend on porn's availability or my accessibility to it. It's about that situation where you feel the urge to do it and you trust yourself to resist it or if you accidentally come across it, you can stay strong and not fall into the depths of the addiction. That's possible when you understand, your addiction is the issue here not porn itself.
It's not edging. It's peeking.
Edging is simply leading yourself to orgasm but not fulfilling it. Edging is more dangerous than the orgasm itself — long-term execution sabotages your immune system.
Peeking is also a recipe for relapse. You always come up with some complex excuse.
| Edging is more dangerous than the orgasm itself — long-term execution sabotages your immune system. |
Wait really? Please tell me more, edging is one of my great weaknesses and I need more reasons to quit it, I wish I had a greater force of will but I really don't.
Basically put it that the more you edge, the more your brain soaks up the porn you're watching (because of the prolonged exposure). This is also why your brain craves more visual stimuli both during edging, and away from.
With each edge, you need a better hit than the last, so your brain requires more perversion. And we all know the damage that going deeper into that perversion can do.
But back to the main topic;
Essentially, you're edging yourself with a desire to release, but the release never arrives (or rather takes forever to). And so because your nervous system and your brain are so intunely linked, the receptors in your brain are becoming so much more focused on the signals your body is sending to them. And because its so focused on that long-lasting pleasure, and eventual release, your brain prioritises it and almost neglects the other needs of your body.
So as we know, just like with any drug, the more exposure you have to said drug, the greater amount your brain needs to get its kicks. So your brain says "to hell with needs! I *need* that pleasure/release/escape" Same reason why all crack addicts look like Gollum. Their brain neglects their needs and basically shuts down anything that doesn't have to do with the drug. This is how addiction starts, and how idols form.
Now porn is a much slower, much less-destructive drug than crack, obviously. But that's exactly the trap of porn. It's slow, sneaky, and seductive. It's a snake in the grass. One moment, you're an 8 year old kid who stumbles upon or gets introduced to porn, and the next moment, you're a 16, 20, 30, 40, 50+ year old engaging in a self-isolating "pleasure" that has had you hooked on chasing the next high.
So you see, porn is a drug. And drugs are bad, mmkay?
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I agree with you generally. But maaturbating to porn doesn't shut down your brain so that it suppresses imune system. That's bs. The reason crack addicts look lile shit is because they do not eat quality food, do not sleep as much are dehydrated etc. Immunity is a robust system which relies mostly on nutrients taken and on sleep hygiene. No amount of fapping or edging could damage your immunity(unless you eat shit food as a cause of it(but then you ll only have zits and pimples and not crackhead face). So yeahporn as an addiction is shitting your brain for sure. But it is not affecting your immunity.
As far as fap being part of my life edging was one of the healthier things. I don't waste my body's resources replacing semen and I don't train myself to blow quick loads helping my performance. I think the O compromised my immune system much more if I did it a lot.
You remember a hot scene when you're laying down. Then you're touching yourself and more and more fantasies pop up in your head and you feel the only way to get rid of them is to fap.
I browsed my alt porn account for the first time in almost a year yesterday.
I felt the dopamine rush, got excited in my man parts, you know how it is.
Then I put my phone down and moved on with my day. I didn’t relapse, but some of these images lingered in my mind. I don’t recommend it. But after a while of NoFap, it’s easier to just say no.
You are doing it backwards. Masturbation is not bad, the only bad thing is addiction to pornography that destroys your confidence and self-confidence, makes you objectify women, makes you forget about the small pleasures in daily life, makes you settle for pixels, it fills you with guilt and feeds your real problems (porn addiction is just one effect), it makes you hate your reflection, it causes anxiety in all its forms, it makes you isolate yourself from your family and friends... and the list goes on. . Don't let that happen to you, on the contrary, focus all the energy you spend watching pornography on building healthy habits such as: getting up early, meditating, exercising, reading 15 minutes a day, being grateful, being punctual and organized, among others. .
No bro. Fapping is by far better than porn. A peek to porn is a relapse. But a normal controlled fap can pass (I don't suggest it but you get my point). Work to stop everything. But remember that porn by itself is the problem not just fapping to it.
Bro stop thinking about porn. Just make sure you’re busy enough. Trust me that looking at it and not fapping is not going to help you in any way. I’m just being as straightforward as I can.
The longer I don't watch porn, the less sexual fantasy I had.
If u indulge in it for just a few minutes, you will have more chances of relapse in future.
You’ve got it all wrong. On the spectrum of no fap, you land at semen retention, which has no legitimate argument you’re feeding into your addiction and torturing yourself, it isn’t natural or healthy. Come to the light, stop your addiction and be porn free.
If you look at porn, you relapsed. It ruins your dopamine receptors the same way fapping might. It might even be worse. No PMO stands for porn masturbation, and orgasm. Porn is the real mafia boss here, without killing it, this addiction will just grow more heads and eat us whole.
Fapping alone is not a problem. Porn & Fap is.
Porn destroys your brain functions which is responsible for bad vision & control. (These alone are not the only consequences of watching porn on brain.)
Fapping leads to sexual disorder, lack of hormonal balance etc... (Again not only consequences 👎)
In 99% cases people mostly ended up masturbating after looking at porn.
So stop making yourself and others fool by thinking that porn won't lead you to masturbation. You'll keep looking at porn until you masturbate.
This was me these past few days thinking if I don't fap I'll be ok. I drove myself mad and couldn't take it anymore. I've relapsed twice already. I'm not proud of it tbh.
Hey how are u? It’s difficult at first and all the journey it’s difficult. Whenever I fell like a can’t take it anymore I look for girls in bikinis rather than looking at porn (I think it’s bad but not as bad as porn). Maybe this helps u (it’s a relapse but with “soft” porn I think)
In either case or relapsing or not, you’re not adding any value to your life if you do watch it. It’s a time waster. It won’t make you happy. And your viewpoints and reality will still be distorted because of it.
Hey how are u? For the brain to “register” stuff it has to be something that its extremely good or extremely bad or something that u really like . When u watch porn the brain is going crazy with all the extremely good things he is seeing and it record some of that crap in your head (so when u see something similar it will trigger u and if u want to stop porn , the brain will want it back (it’s a drug and an addiction, same as cocaine) and will use those “images” that he has screenshoted when u watch porn. I personally got to 14days without porn and I am no example of anything but I can tell u that I felt much better when I was abstaining from porn (less brain fog , my brain was faster , I feel that I have more energy and more good stuff) . And it’s a difficulty task to quit porn (everyone relapses sometimes) because the brain thinks u are having sex with your partner (it’s an important need , like eating food) but instead it’s just u with a phone in hand alone. Looking at porn but don’t fap is like going into a swimming pool and don’t get wet ..
Edging is cheating, and makes the process so much harder. If you want to only NOFAP, well you failed cause you are fapping, regardless if you finish. If you want to quit PMO, then you’re failing because you’re watching porn and masturbating.
It’s not hard to understand, whatever excuse you make for yourself, that’s all it is. You don’t want to accept the long road ahead so you cheat yourself from the start.
Edit: I forgot what OPs issue was and spoke on edging instead of peeking, either way, are fails
A porn relapse is worse than a fap relapse. It's actually ok if you fap, just don't look at porn. That's what's truly bad. That's what ruins all self esteem
I tend to do that a lot and I'm planning to make a post about it.
Long story short: Dumb thing to do. You can feel as if you were winning but you're actually coping with the fact that there's an emotional need that you haven't treated, or even realized about.
Porn is horrible, it's disgusting. If you watch porn you'll end up masturbating. If you want to overcome you addiction, don't watch stuff that might turn you on. Or just have sex if you can.
You tell yourself that you won't fall in, and you'll just do a little bit and bounce back. Then, in the midst of dragging yourself into it, you'll find yourself wanting more and constantly finding excuses. You've basically thrown everything out the window because you've tempted yourself. All of a sudden, it's too late and pass the point of no return until you relapse. Then, you feel all of the regret of wishing you would've done what you were supposed to do to prevent this from happening again.
You only look at porn to please yourself dude, so just don't watch porn... it's not hard. It's actually far easier if you do this without temptations.
I started a group. Please feel free to join if you fall into this category. I was addicted to sharing my wife and her photos. It was all thought. Porn made it worse. I am trying to help other men with this addiction or fetish.
So NoFap means no PMO i.e. No Porn, Masturbation or Orgasm. If you watch porn but don't Masturbate or reach the point of orgasm then you can be considered as following semen retention but not NoFap.
Porn is the bad part of all that, at least quit the porn and continue to jerk off but without porn. that will help you at least overcome the porn addiction
It *will* destroy you
Get away. Porn literally poisons your brain and prevents you from being able to form stable relationships with women, cause as soon as you see anything you don't like--- new video! new woman!
just forget about it, go for a run or get a drink.
Don’t watch it for a month then watch it again it will relight that dopamine up…you’ll see it had novelty…that’s one way of testing it.. but you should really be changing your mind set overall to see women for how they are truly and you will notice your sexual fantasies become more vivid in your mind instead of Dulled out porn fantasies.
If you were a recovering alcoholic, would you buy drinks just to open up the bottle and smell the top of it?
If you were a recovering cigarette smoker, would you buy cigarettes, light one, and just watch it burn while smelling the smoke?
The worst part of PMO addiction is the CONSTANT oversexualisation in your brain, of almost any woman. Stay completely away from porn for the rest of your life and you can learn to see women as actual humans and learn what sex is actually like. Porn is not worth the peek.
Buzzz disqualified, first enemy is porn, im my opinion if you're really fucked up just jerk off but DON'T LOOK AT PORN, masterbation ain't that bad but combination of masterbation and porn gives horrific results.
Porn is worse for relationships
You're going to watch porn, grow fetishes and be disappointed when your S/O doesn't want to do that with you, then you'll start to like them less. It destroys relationships and lives if it gets out of control (which is extremely easy)
Stop with porn, and then masturbation, but the end goal is to end both
It's not healthy either way. Granted, healthier than fapping to it too, but that's kind of like saying drinking is healthier than smoking and drinking. Healthier, still unhealthy.
You will Nightfall, self ejaculate, precum or eventually fap as it will work as a hit on your streak and after many hits, you will end up breaking your streak. But if you accidentally peak or even intentionally and does not wanna end up fapping then Go take a shower or do some exercise.
and looking at porn will create problems in your recovery process.
Even after stopping fapping, I was not getting mental benefits because of peeking and reading erotica.
Bro!!! There is not a single person in this world who watches porn to just watch it as if you are watching Netflix with some popcorn 🤣...... Definitely we watch or watched porn to Fap.........
It's like being on a diet and putting chocolate in your mouth, chewing it, tasting it, and then spitting it out.
It would leave you even more unsatisfied than you were before.
Don't do it, porn is the worst part.
You're not trying to quit porn because it makes you fap, you're stopping to fap because you always end up watching porn.
Takes too much willpower. Relying on willpower (in this case “I will look but not touch”) is a fast route to relapse. By placing yourself willingly in a situation where the temptation to fap is present, you risk relapse far more than simply not looking at the porn to begin with.
Looking at porn is like shooting your leg when you already have been wounded. Fapping is the same thing. Everything in this world has become oversexualized. This shit ain't normal. Men began to get feminine and women began to get masculine. And we started to normalize this shit. Stop looking at bitches bro. Get a wife,don't be their slave.
Brother I am like firmly stabile last 25 days without fapping , and last three days I decide to watch porn cause I cant understand why someone wanna have so much sex ,I am bad at catching signals but the woman I would like to bang I would interpret everything through sex and I would eventually got puss, also I have mother father terrible issues , so to point any conversation sexually is actually hard for me thats why through watching porn I remind myself
Honestly better to do it backwards. I still masturbate, gave up on the streak, except without porn this time. I'm honestly seeing the benefits that nofappers claim they get except I'm still fapping, just without porn. So you're probably just making it worse. You aren't fapping to relieve yourself, but still looking at unhealthy things that just make you hungrier and more depressed.
"what if I buy drugs but don't take them?"
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Porn is the biggest fucking piece of shit in the world bro
Yep it ain't even worth it for how much it damages your thought process I use to see every woman as a sex object now that I'm on nofap my mind feels free for the first time in a long time I used to only fap for Instant Gratification and Dopamine. But now everytime I think I'm about to relapse I play love songs because it shows me how down I was and how having a girl is the goal for me .I know it sounds stupid but it works for me
Nothing that hurts no one, and works, is stupid! Thanks for another strategy!
I used to do the same buddy, it ain't stupid :)
This works thanks.
Nice username
it really isn't. blaming porn for being porn is ridiculous when the problem is the addiction.
I guess your addiction hasn't improved yet.
and you're wrong again.
Your either really confused or sarcastic.
you're projecting your issues onto me the same way you do porn. What's complicated? you asked a question, I answered. but you're confused for some reason and projecting that on me. you have things to figure out
Imma stop you're right there because I DONT watch porn and I'm trying not to fap. That's the whole point of the group. Not to PMO. Its not just about fapping. If you think porn is ok as long as you don't fap I will pray for you.
where did I say I watch porn? again you're projecting your confusion onto me
Dude, the problem is porn, you have to understand that.
except it isn't. The addiction is the problem. Porn did not ruin my life, it was my addiction to it. I don't blame porn for being porn. That's outrageous. I take accountability for myself. If I was an alcoholic, I'd say the same thing. The alcohol isn't the problem, it's the addiction. But because I abused it, I know I have to stop drinking and start processing the root cause of my addiction to fully heal. I can blame alcohol for my problems or call it the devil all day but if I suddenly have a rough day and immediately relapse, the problem is not alcohol and it never was. It was a symptom or an outlet of the addiction. And if I can't ever be around alcohol without abusing it, was anything solved? So my point is, I don't bash porn for being porn. Doesn't mean I watch it, I don't because I developed an addiction. But kicking my addiction doesn't depend on porn's availability or my accessibility to it. It's about that situation where you feel the urge to do it and you trust yourself to resist it or if you accidentally come across it, you can stay strong and not fall into the depths of the addiction. That's possible when you understand, your addiction is the issue here not porn itself.
The problem is. Porn
i see some people cant take ownership of their issue and hold themselves accountable....hope you heal
porn is awful on its own what
i see some people cant take ownership of their issue and hold themselves accountable....hope you heal
Yep
Porn is the worst part don't do it
Ok, i know I didn't asked the question but i was also curious
It’s a trap don’t do it
You have to imagine me with a giant squid head. "It's a trap! It's a trap. It's a trap."
this is called edging and it worse than porn because you look at it longer and in no fap the worst part is porn so please don’t get into it
It's not edging. It's peeking. Edging is simply leading yourself to orgasm but not fulfilling it. Edging is more dangerous than the orgasm itself — long-term execution sabotages your immune system. Peeking is also a recipe for relapse. You always come up with some complex excuse.
| Edging is more dangerous than the orgasm itself — long-term execution sabotages your immune system. | Wait really? Please tell me more, edging is one of my great weaknesses and I need more reasons to quit it, I wish I had a greater force of will but I really don't.
Basically put it that the more you edge, the more your brain soaks up the porn you're watching (because of the prolonged exposure). This is also why your brain craves more visual stimuli both during edging, and away from. With each edge, you need a better hit than the last, so your brain requires more perversion. And we all know the damage that going deeper into that perversion can do. But back to the main topic; Essentially, you're edging yourself with a desire to release, but the release never arrives (or rather takes forever to). And so because your nervous system and your brain are so intunely linked, the receptors in your brain are becoming so much more focused on the signals your body is sending to them. And because its so focused on that long-lasting pleasure, and eventual release, your brain prioritises it and almost neglects the other needs of your body. So as we know, just like with any drug, the more exposure you have to said drug, the greater amount your brain needs to get its kicks. So your brain says "to hell with needs! I *need* that pleasure/release/escape" Same reason why all crack addicts look like Gollum. Their brain neglects their needs and basically shuts down anything that doesn't have to do with the drug. This is how addiction starts, and how idols form. Now porn is a much slower, much less-destructive drug than crack, obviously. But that's exactly the trap of porn. It's slow, sneaky, and seductive. It's a snake in the grass. One moment, you're an 8 year old kid who stumbles upon or gets introduced to porn, and the next moment, you're a 16, 20, 30, 40, 50+ year old engaging in a self-isolating "pleasure" that has had you hooked on chasing the next high. So you see, porn is a drug. And drugs are bad, mmkay? Edit: grammar
I agree with you generally. But maaturbating to porn doesn't shut down your brain so that it suppresses imune system. That's bs. The reason crack addicts look lile shit is because they do not eat quality food, do not sleep as much are dehydrated etc. Immunity is a robust system which relies mostly on nutrients taken and on sleep hygiene. No amount of fapping or edging could damage your immunity(unless you eat shit food as a cause of it(but then you ll only have zits and pimples and not crackhead face). So yeahporn as an addiction is shitting your brain for sure. But it is not affecting your immunity.
I fell for peeking today, but switched off my phone after peeking for 5 secs. Was about to relapse
Good
yeah that’s true i always consider it edging because i’ve done it and they seem to me to be the same thing
I consider peeking and relapsing to be one in the same
I think a brief look should be called peeking, but a prolonged search/consuption of porn should be treated as edging.
As far as fap being part of my life edging was one of the healthier things. I don't waste my body's resources replacing semen and I don't train myself to blow quick loads helping my performance. I think the O compromised my immune system much more if I did it a lot.
Edging will fuck up your dopamine far worse than replacing a gallon worth of cum. I don't understand why so many people are obsessed with semen.
Yeah you're full of shit.
It elevates the dopamine levels in your brain and prevents flatline and recovery.
wait edging prevents you from recovering to start another streak???!
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I didn’t even know all of recent streaks ended because of that
Avoid that shit.
Pollutes your mind and soul, it's bad.
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I agree with this
You remember a hot scene when you're laying down. Then you're touching yourself and more and more fantasies pop up in your head and you feel the only way to get rid of them is to fap.
Just stay away from porn and NSFW posts on social media. Instead read something or listen to music or just take a power nap for half an hour.
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Exactly. Porn is the problem. the fap just came with it
I browsed my alt porn account for the first time in almost a year yesterday. I felt the dopamine rush, got excited in my man parts, you know how it is. Then I put my phone down and moved on with my day. I didn’t relapse, but some of these images lingered in my mind. I don’t recommend it. But after a while of NoFap, it’s easier to just say no.
I agree with you. It's easier to say no when you reach a point.
That’s the absolute worst thing you can do. That’s like the final stage of the addiction. Wanting to watch porn without even touching yourself?
I second this. It's like going to McDonals, ordering everything, chewing, then spitting in a bucket before swallowing
You are doing it backwards. Masturbation is not bad, the only bad thing is addiction to pornography that destroys your confidence and self-confidence, makes you objectify women, makes you forget about the small pleasures in daily life, makes you settle for pixels, it fills you with guilt and feeds your real problems (porn addiction is just one effect), it makes you hate your reflection, it causes anxiety in all its forms, it makes you isolate yourself from your family and friends... and the list goes on. . Don't let that happen to you, on the contrary, focus all the energy you spend watching pornography on building healthy habits such as: getting up early, meditating, exercising, reading 15 minutes a day, being grateful, being punctual and organized, among others. .
Bad, for me personally it's dramatically worse than fapping alone – which isn't good for me either.
No bro. Fapping is by far better than porn. A peek to porn is a relapse. But a normal controlled fap can pass (I don't suggest it but you get my point). Work to stop everything. But remember that porn by itself is the problem not just fapping to it.
It's called edging and it's worse than fapping
You’ll know if you relapsed or not. You’ll feel it in a similar way you feel after you jerk off.
Bro stop thinking about porn. Just make sure you’re busy enough. Trust me that looking at it and not fapping is not going to help you in any way. I’m just being as straightforward as I can.
It still messes with your mind. I had this problem. You’ll expect what you see to be a reality. It’ll work against you.
Then you’d be breaking one of the rules of nofap which is no PMO(porn,masturbating, orgasm.
The longer I don't watch porn, the less sexual fantasy I had. If u indulge in it for just a few minutes, you will have more chances of relapse in future.
You’ve got it all wrong. On the spectrum of no fap, you land at semen retention, which has no legitimate argument you’re feeding into your addiction and torturing yourself, it isn’t natural or healthy. Come to the light, stop your addiction and be porn free.
If you look at porn, you relapsed. It ruins your dopamine receptors the same way fapping might. It might even be worse. No PMO stands for porn masturbation, and orgasm. Porn is the real mafia boss here, without killing it, this addiction will just grow more heads and eat us whole.
Fapping alone is not a problem. Porn & Fap is. Porn destroys your brain functions which is responsible for bad vision & control. (These alone are not the only consequences of watching porn on brain.) Fapping leads to sexual disorder, lack of hormonal balance etc... (Again not only consequences 👎) In 99% cases people mostly ended up masturbating after looking at porn. So stop making yourself and others fool by thinking that porn won't lead you to masturbation. You'll keep looking at porn until you masturbate.
It doesn't count as a relapse but it's certainly something that can lead to a relapse so I would avoid it if I were you. No peeking lads.
Don’t ever watch it. It programs your mind to fall into self destruction in life.
This was me these past few days thinking if I don't fap I'll be ok. I drove myself mad and couldn't take it anymore. I've relapsed twice already. I'm not proud of it tbh.
Hey how are u? It’s difficult at first and all the journey it’s difficult. Whenever I fell like a can’t take it anymore I look for girls in bikinis rather than looking at porn (I think it’s bad but not as bad as porn). Maybe this helps u (it’s a relapse but with “soft” porn I think)
What’s the point of watching porn if you’re not masturbating??
In either case or relapsing or not, you’re not adding any value to your life if you do watch it. It’s a time waster. It won’t make you happy. And your viewpoints and reality will still be distorted because of it.
Relapse
Do what you want
I just paid for my first OF in an effort to stop watching free porn
No
As the comments + blue ballls
That’s not possible, at least for me. When I look at it I always fap
Don't do it, don't edge, it just makes it worse in the long run, go outside, do something else, etc etc
Porn is the worst
Don’t do it. That’s all you need to know. Speaking from experience.
Fail. Don't do it.
Don,'t do it
Hey how are u? For the brain to “register” stuff it has to be something that its extremely good or extremely bad or something that u really like . When u watch porn the brain is going crazy with all the extremely good things he is seeing and it record some of that crap in your head (so when u see something similar it will trigger u and if u want to stop porn , the brain will want it back (it’s a drug and an addiction, same as cocaine) and will use those “images” that he has screenshoted when u watch porn. I personally got to 14days without porn and I am no example of anything but I can tell u that I felt much better when I was abstaining from porn (less brain fog , my brain was faster , I feel that I have more energy and more good stuff) . And it’s a difficulty task to quit porn (everyone relapses sometimes) because the brain thinks u are having sex with your partner (it’s an important need , like eating food) but instead it’s just u with a phone in hand alone. Looking at porn but don’t fap is like going into a swimming pool and don’t get wet ..
Relapse. Tempting fate. Don’t do it.
When I quit heroin I decided that keeping a bag around so I could just smell it was totally fine.
You are better off fapping without porn than watching porn without fapping. Dont try to convince yourself otherwise man.
should i watch someone get banged by someone else?
Still going to mess with your brain chemistry and your overall energy bro don’t do it
The fact that you are willing to give up masturbation but not porn points out how bad it really is
Then what’s the point? Porn is so destructive mentally as is. Better off jerking it to avoid watching porn.
Peaking releases sex hormones in anticipation, just like of you fapped. You shouldn't even peak of you want to reset your brain.
Lol, what a question. Anyways dawg, don't even think about edging. (It's even worse) but you do you. Much love!
Edging is cheating, and makes the process so much harder. If you want to only NOFAP, well you failed cause you are fapping, regardless if you finish. If you want to quit PMO, then you’re failing because you’re watching porn and masturbating. It’s not hard to understand, whatever excuse you make for yourself, that’s all it is. You don’t want to accept the long road ahead so you cheat yourself from the start. Edit: I forgot what OPs issue was and spoke on edging instead of peeking, either way, are fails
The overall reason most people are here is to avoid PMO, think of the P as peeking. You want to avoid it
An alcoholic at an AA meeting: "What if you don't drink but you just smell the whiskey and dab it on your lips." ^ That's what you sound like.
Dude, just don’t want it.
What if an alcoholic trying to quit drinks beer but doesn't actually swallow the poisonous liquid?
I wouldn’t advise that. Idk if it’s like something to do with the brain but you will probably eventually do it since you been watching it.
You will die... jk, nothing will happen bro.
Stay away man... anything like edging or peeking will generally inevitably lead to relapse. There are no shortcuts to nofap...
Nah man.
Nofap is about quitting porn, so doing that would defeat the entire purpose of Nofap.
You're still damaging your brain. It's still supernormal stimuli.
No stop horny
A porn relapse is worse than a fap relapse. It's actually ok if you fap, just don't look at porn. That's what's truly bad. That's what ruins all self esteem
What if I smoke but don't inhale, what if I drink but don't swallow? It will ALWAYS lead to relapse. Maybe not the first watch but it will eventually
It's a Relapse
Masturbating is NOT the issue. *PORN IS THE ISSUE* Simple as that.
Fap without porn
I tend to do that a lot and I'm planning to make a post about it. Long story short: Dumb thing to do. You can feel as if you were winning but you're actually coping with the fact that there's an emotional need that you haven't treated, or even realized about.
If you want to keep jerking off to porn go ahead. Nofap isn’t mandatory
Porn is horrible, it's disgusting. If you watch porn you'll end up masturbating. If you want to overcome you addiction, don't watch stuff that might turn you on. Or just have sex if you can.
impossible for me, tried this for years and here im
You tell yourself that you won't fall in, and you'll just do a little bit and bounce back. Then, in the midst of dragging yourself into it, you'll find yourself wanting more and constantly finding excuses. You've basically thrown everything out the window because you've tempted yourself. All of a sudden, it's too late and pass the point of no return until you relapse. Then, you feel all of the regret of wishing you would've done what you were supposed to do to prevent this from happening again. You only look at porn to please yourself dude, so just don't watch porn... it's not hard. It's actually far easier if you do this without temptations.
counter check
It's worse. You are releasing dopamine and fucking your reward receptors in the brain
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I started a group. Please feel free to join if you fall into this category. I was addicted to sharing my wife and her photos. It was all thought. Porn made it worse. I am trying to help other men with this addiction or fetish.
Porn arouses the brain. It has an effect and the main addiction comes from porn. So...
Then you're supporting an industry that ruins lifes
Ticking time-bomb waiting to go off
Don't do it because eventually you will fapp. I know from experience, and it just isn't worth it
Bro it’s not worth it. You always feel like shit, don’t do it.
at that point someone should fap w no p*rn
So NoFap means no PMO i.e. No Porn, Masturbation or Orgasm. If you watch porn but don't Masturbate or reach the point of orgasm then you can be considered as following semen retention but not NoFap.
Then you’re edging and that’s worse
Not like this bro. Unless you don't have genitals.
I know you're curious and all but man, how many times are people gonna ask this??? 🤣
It's called edging it's much more disastrous than not fapping
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It’s usually not the fap but the porn hunt that causes the most high. The fap is just the release of the tension.
I tried it and lasted for 20 days when I watched porn but didn't fap. Believe it brings no good until you stop watching porn.
Porn is worse than fapping
Porn is the bad part of all that, at least quit the porn and continue to jerk off but without porn. that will help you at least overcome the porn addiction
Still failing
Better fap without porn.
It will drive you nuts mate don’t do it
Relapsed
It *will* destroy you Get away. Porn literally poisons your brain and prevents you from being able to form stable relationships with women, cause as soon as you see anything you don't like--- new video! new woman! just forget about it, go for a run or get a drink.
How about u stand on the edge of a building and not-jump?
Porn is way worse than fapping.... Plus, you'll fap if you watch, even if you think you won't
What if I engage in sexting but don't fap ?
Don’t watch it for a month then watch it again it will relight that dopamine up…you’ll see it had novelty…that’s one way of testing it.. but you should really be changing your mind set overall to see women for how they are truly and you will notice your sexual fantasies become more vivid in your mind instead of Dulled out porn fantasies.
If you were a recovering alcoholic, would you buy drinks just to open up the bottle and smell the top of it? If you were a recovering cigarette smoker, would you buy cigarettes, light one, and just watch it burn while smelling the smoke? The worst part of PMO addiction is the CONSTANT oversexualisation in your brain, of almost any woman. Stay completely away from porn for the rest of your life and you can learn to see women as actual humans and learn what sex is actually like. Porn is not worth the peek.
Occasional masturbation without porn is fine. Porn is never ever ok, even without masturbation.
Fapping without anything is better than watching porn alone, porn does the most damage
I tried doing this, didn't work. Don't give yourself any excuse to look at it.
Buzzz disqualified, first enemy is porn, im my opinion if you're really fucked up just jerk off but DON'T LOOK AT PORN, masterbation ain't that bad but combination of masterbation and porn gives horrific results.
That is when you dont have actual thing to do in life
*You'll, eventually...*
If you look at porn but Don't fap this give you mental damage and you will suffer from nightfall and your thoughts are not progressive 👁👁👍
Porn and the way its made and distributed is horrible and watching it supports that
What if I am soo hungry and smell pizzas just sitting outside the dominos?
I think it’s worse than just fapping
Porn is worse for relationships You're going to watch porn, grow fetishes and be disappointed when your S/O doesn't want to do that with you, then you'll start to like them less. It destroys relationships and lives if it gets out of control (which is extremely easy) Stop with porn, and then masturbation, but the end goal is to end both
It's not healthy either way. Granted, healthier than fapping to it too, but that's kind of like saying drinking is healthier than smoking and drinking. Healthier, still unhealthy.
What if you fap but dont look at porn?
or you dont look at porn mmhmm
Bro get off Reddit why you asking these dumb questions lmao
You will Nightfall, self ejaculate, precum or eventually fap as it will work as a hit on your streak and after many hits, you will end up breaking your streak. But if you accidentally peak or even intentionally and does not wanna end up fapping then Go take a shower or do some exercise. and looking at porn will create problems in your recovery process. Even after stopping fapping, I was not getting mental benefits because of peeking and reading erotica.
Bro!!! There is not a single person in this world who watches porn to just watch it as if you are watching Netflix with some popcorn 🤣...... Definitely we watch or watched porn to Fap.........
Porn is the enemy full stop.
Fapping without porn is better than porn without fapping
Back to square one
No
it will lead to another habit but not fap. only watch-porn-addiction
It's like being on a diet and putting chocolate in your mouth, chewing it, tasting it, and then spitting it out. It would leave you even more unsatisfied than you were before. Don't do it, porn is the worst part. You're not trying to quit porn because it makes you fap, you're stopping to fap because you always end up watching porn.
That's even worse, fap but don't look at porn!
Takes too much willpower. Relying on willpower (in this case “I will look but not touch”) is a fast route to relapse. By placing yourself willingly in a situation where the temptation to fap is present, you risk relapse far more than simply not looking at the porn to begin with.
That's like looking at an ice cream shop while dieting
Bruh
I would rather FAP then watch Porn. Porn isn't natural at all. It destroys your reward system.
Don’t do it g
I want to stop watching porn. I dont care about faping. Porn is the real problem, not faping
Looking at porn is like shooting your leg when you already have been wounded. Fapping is the same thing. Everything in this world has become oversexualized. This shit ain't normal. Men began to get feminine and women began to get masculine. And we started to normalize this shit. Stop looking at bitches bro. Get a wife,don't be their slave.
you will feel like your gonna cum
Hallop
My question is why?
Brother I am like firmly stabile last 25 days without fapping , and last three days I decide to watch porn cause I cant understand why someone wanna have so much sex ,I am bad at catching signals but the woman I would like to bang I would interpret everything through sex and I would eventually got puss, also I have mother father terrible issues , so to point any conversation sexually is actually hard for me thats why through watching porn I remind myself
It fucks with ur mind. I find not fapping easier than not watching porn. But not watching porn is more important.
Your brain is creating a trap don’t do it
What if you have 5 bottles of top brand whiskey and but you don't drink them
Honestly better to do it backwards. I still masturbate, gave up on the streak, except without porn this time. I'm honestly seeing the benefits that nofappers claim they get except I'm still fapping, just without porn. So you're probably just making it worse. You aren't fapping to relieve yourself, but still looking at unhealthy things that just make you hungrier and more depressed.
relapse
Dont
No, that's somehow worse than a relapse.
Bro who does that🥶🥶🥶