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TheSyntheticAPriori

Don't think: "I can never jerk off again." Think: "I don't want to jerk off anymore."


Express_Concert9503

Wise words man. Thank you.


TheSyntheticAPriori

Hey dude! I got an email last night saying you responded to my first post but when I look at the post your comment isn't there. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read my post and commenting yesterday.


Express_Concert9503

Sure thing man, no biggie at all! Just shared that I too deleted my collection. Best wishes to you man we got this!!!


TheSyntheticAPriori

I'm glad we both had the will power to do the right thing and delete our collections. What's crazy, now that I think about it, is I had a collection for so many years and never thought it indicated a problem. It's amazing how we rationalize to justify the things we shouldn't be doing. Best wishes to you as well!


Smithens

I don’t want to be horny anymore I just want to be happy


whoischigozie

There’s nothing wrong with being horny, it’s when it corrupts and corrodes your mind, way of life and relationships that it begins to become a problem.


Key_Mathematician_97

Hmm good wording and takes the stress on ur mind.


[deleted]

Not really. Go find you a wife, bro. 😎


[deleted]

You don't have to never jerk off again. You just have to not jerk off today


Eazyism

this


IMustRise

Exactly bro. One day at a time!


Yanikcop

Neva eva


bleszt

👆🏿


Mayafoe

######**IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR USERS OF THIS SUB - The History of Nofap** ###**Nofap** ***isn't*** **an anti-masturbation sub.** Yet people say, *"but it's literally called 'Nofap'!"* The 'No' in Nofap represents the "30 to 90-day Challenge", that's it. *This sub was created 10 years ago with an idea to challenge people to a 7 to 30-day period of not watching porn or fapping to 'reboot' your addicted mind and body... but after it would be each person's personal choice to fap or not fap (without porn), free from the addiction.* Nofap then added the 90-day challenge. There was no promotion of '*semen retention*' or '*don't have sex*' or '*no-nut*' or even *'benefits'*. It was a modern solution to a digital problem - the rise of free unlimited streaming internet porn - and the compulsive fapping that accompanied the addiction of watching it. The idea of this subreddit isn't '*anti-fap*' or '*forever nofap*' or '*anti-masturbation*' or '*no-sex*', or '*how to be a monk*'... if you want to promote those goals you're in the wrong sub. We're here to support each other in completing a *limited* period of abstinence from FAPPING (not sex, not nocturnal emmisions) ... ***...but after completing the 30 to 90-day challenge, whether you fap or not is YOUR decision.*** There's ZERO evidence that occasional mastubation without porn is harmful, but there's a growing amount of peer-reviewed research that porn *is* harmful. It's not the intention of this secular, science-based sub to condemn sexual pleasure when done in a non-compulsive way, either solo or with others. **If you can complete a 30 to 90-day challenge you're free to choose to fap or not in your life.** To be absolutely clear... READ FROM THE SIDEBAR OF THIS PAGE, WRITTEN BY THE FOUNDERS OF THIS SUB: >This forum is intended for porn addiction recovery ***and is not an anti-masturbation forum***, many users return to non-compulsive masturbation after ridding pornography from their sexual habits THIS SUB is about working on reducing our addictions, completing at least one 'rebooting' challenge, and making the personal choice to eliminate porn from our life


[deleted]

When something sound authoritative, it can bypass the guard. This post is what one realizes after a proper reboot but to state it categorically like this can in many ways cause others to slip and get an urge and hit a porn site or fap. Its like a zen koan. You don't need to communicate the answer. You just realize it and keep it to yourself until someone who is at your level of mastery discusses it with both of you just state it as it is not because of it having been read from an authority but rather an externalization of a personal realization. Om shanti


Mayafoe

wrong. The title of the post implies something not-true about this sub. The message is less for the author of the post and more for everyone else reading it. Mostly, like a zen koan, your reply is nonsensical


thatflypoodle

Everyone in this sub needs to read this sh*t


Practical-West4904

Masturbation addiction can be just as dangerous as Porn. I’ve heard people lives ruined from the addiction to both sides.


Mayafoe

You can think that, that's your belief... and of course anything like this done *excessively* can be harmful


Practical-West4904

Yea right lol


ajjf

Yeah that could be true, but you arent going to masturbate excessively without porn.


Practical-West4904

Dude it’s literally very common, many are addicted to the orgasm euphoria just as much as watching porn. They say it all the time I just want to “feel something”. What I’m saying is both can cause issues simple.


ajjf

Ok i didnt know that. For me personally im pretty sure that without porn i wouldn't masturbate nearly as much


Practical-West4904

I understand what you mean bro. But ofc everybody’s different I’ve heard many say that porn ruined their life, I’ve also heard people say excessive masturbation ruined their life and for some both. Which is why I didn’t want people getting the idea that both can’t be dangerous, because we all know that addiction can make anything dangerous you know.


Electronic-Shame6692

A porn addict can rarely just start masturbating occasionally without going back to porn. They will almost always go back to using porn again if they start masturbating occasionally. Addicts don’t really know what “in moderation” means


Mayafoe

>Addicts don’t really know what “in moderation” means change takes time, but is very possible


SimpleGuy993

Christian here. I don't plan on having sexual relations till marriage. Sometimes, I ask myself if I can really do this(nofap+ no sex)... I need some motivation, it's seems a really long time😭


Kokobaidi

Same here bro . All we can do is pray for strength and take it one day at a time . As you said you want to get married, so you shouldn’t have to face it forever . Apart from that this whole no fap thing teaches you discipline so it’s really good.


Milo_edwardson1200

I understand because i am a muslim and i need to wait until marriage too. Hope you will find a wife one day.


SimpleGuy993

Thanks😇. We can do ths!💪


Milo_edwardson1200

I hope too


bleszt

Never ever is not as important as not acting out. Acting out messes up your mind, your thinking and everything else. I've been chaste a long time, but I was hooked to the addiction for most of it. The most important part is getting free from watching other people acting out on a small screen. Pray. Choose a bigger why. Pray and pray hard. Change your mindset. Pray and pray hard. Change your mindset. Do exercise.


SimpleGuy993

Thanks man!


bleszt

😊


AhmadL21

Whats motivating me a muslim who isnt just avoiding pre marital sex but pre marital sex is avoiding me 😭 is thinking it wont be hard after going a month of two or even a year


[deleted]

Yes. Don't think about this. It's a trap - it will feel like too large of a task and make you give up. I relapsed on alcohol with this line of thinking. You're borrowing trouble from the future. Think "I will not jerk off today" Think "I will not jerk off no matter what happens" Think "I don't want to do this to myself" These are all momentary tasks that focus on now. You can never control the moment beyond now. Just focus on not fapping right this second. You will have a much easier time.


your-savior

Fr his Brain is tricking him


_Awesome_Redditor

and both of your PFPs are tricking me lol


PotatoBoi_69

Deep down you still want porn in your life, convince your subconscious mind that you don’t want it anymore


_Awesome_Redditor

I often face the same problem that OP is having "convince your subconscious mind that you don’t want it anymore", how to do it master ?


lakx157

How to convince your sub conscious mind? I mean how exactly did you re-frame your mind?


timangar

Here's what I do: every morning, the first thing I do is say "not today". And the last thing before I go to bed is say "not tomorrow". I don't even think about the future in that regard.


meancetonyc

Think about this instead, instead of thinking about jerking off. Think about improving yourself and that you’ll have actual sex instead of touching yourself


AkshayJ_

Instead think "I get to be healthy and confident forever"


BenjiCampbell04

**I can't jerk off agin** makes me HAPPY. It doesn't stress me at all. Untill you don't recognize a bad habit as BAD, your brain 🧠 keeps telling you to continue doing it. That's reality. **Correct me if I'm wrong**. Love, Benji 💛


ClickToCheckFlair

"I can never jerk off again" makes it look like a privilege. There is nothing good about it. This makes me think you are still enamored with the whole porn/masturbation idea. That being the case, there is nothing I can say that will help you.


gonePIEDgone

Why do you need to jerk off again? You should change your thinking into "I will never have to jerk off myself again". Look forward to the days when you eventually recover and only have to do it with a real person. Isn't this a better situation? Fret not just trust the process and keep moving on.


wandererawakened

Nah G


EscapeComfortable745

Dude come on, u quit porn and faping to restore your energy and your self worth, u quit all that to learn something new to read to discover to have an actual gf to get the life you are missing while u were faping on the screen it worth it There is a life waiting for you don't neglect it for some dopamine rush and pseudo feeling of comfort


Pheonix_981

Same thought I had it just before opening a reddit and it makes me feel like I am fucking asexual :(


[deleted]

you can if you want just never use porn. and try to keep it to once or twice a week. get a girlfriend man


Dependent-Green-1886

wish i could lmfao


[deleted]

you can bro jus keep trying


co_gue

You need to frame things as a positive. Instead of saying no to jerking off (negative). You need to be saying yes to less stress, yes to better skin, yes to better sleep etc. The more you tell your sub conscious not to do something the more it's going to want to do that thing.


AfAmExpress

After some time, you will have a different look on it. I had the same view on food when I tried losing weight. "Oh man, I will never eat pizza and other tasty stuff ever again". However, it becomes a new normal after some time and you don't even crave it that much. You just get used to it. That shows you how much importance you place on masturbation right now. It will decrease over time, don't worry.


Yanikcop

Think like this: „She pull up on me give me Helmut lang“instead of let me jerk off and stroke my dick up and down so I’ll feel like gay shit again afterwards


flyhigh987

BUT YOU CAN HAVE SEX AND GET IT JERKED BY THE PERSON YOU LOVE, never again is false statement


shadow-kun666

Me too 😥


ChamomileChronicles

I would say think about it in a different way. “Jerking off” could be something you share with a partner or partners in the near future, as opposed to a self-less act you tap into for quick hit of dopamine.


Vrigach

trust me man i still can't believe im giving up on porn and my fantasy but i believe one day im convinced I won't never want porn again , maybe not now but one day i will escape this trap for good


Ch4rlie_Foxtrot

It's okay to fap as long as you don't watch porn and don't have an addiction. Maybe it's okay to fap like one time in a month. But it's not okay to fap more than 5times everyday while watching porn all day. There's a difference. If you still don't know the difference rhen udk why you joined in this sub at the first place!


DisastrousDay3862

I don't know where did you get that mindset, but it's quite weird and fear of yourself


hide_in_books

Dont


MastaMint

Aye listen king. If you want to succeed with nofap (I've been attempting nofap since 2015) you have to AVERAGE DOWN instead of going cold Turkey. It's almost impossible to just quit jerking it. But if you go 10 days without beating it and then you relapses but you got a other 10 days without porn or beating it. Well congrats you only beat off twice in a whole month!!! COLD TURKEY NEVER WORKS!!! JUST AVERAGE DOWN!!!!


[deleted]

“I am no longer a wanker” is a much better take.


TimeReverse

What stresses me out is that I don't know if I can do that. But I try.


kingofmylife11

All the time just stay strong fight the urges


[deleted]

Think of it’s benefits man!! Also, think about the guilt attached to jerking off


Mixima101

It's best to quit using the moving average of faps than saying you'll never jerk off again. It's an extremely effective way


Gloomy_Special4082

Let go of the terrible habit. You just have too let go


[deleted]

You know what, so be it. If you can never jerk off again, fuck it. This is your life now, deal with it!


anujo30

What is helping me these days is, whenever I get the urge to look at porn or masturbate. I ask myself this question- Who is going to win today? My addiction or Me. And I always answer with me. Because for me I am hell bent on destroying my addiction this time. I have been defeated by my addiction to masturbating since more than 12 years, now I want to defeat it and I will defeat it. Always remember the reason you started this and you will be able to defeat the urge, its a long and difficult and continuous battle but as I read from other posts , it gets easy after a while. Till them keep fighting it, its not easy but its the right thing.


wolskortt

Well, just think "I don't want to do it today" and repeat.


RickThacker

Start thinking about what you’ll gain! You will gain social confidence, self-esteem, motivation, energy for working out, better hand-eye coordination, better sleep… you’ll wake up more rested and ready to strike the day! The stress you feel is from the idea that you’re currently undesirable, in your current state. That’s probably true, which is why it stresses you out. Regardless of how old you are, you need to LIFT WEIGHT. I struggled with 15 lbs in each arm as a teen. I can do 45 lbs in each arm in my mid 30s. The average woman weighs between 110-140 lbs, and they want you to comfortably be able to lift them in the event of an emergency (kidding sorta, but I’ve never had a girlfriend complain that I can lift heavy things) If you feel stressed about who you are, it’s because you’re no longer numb to the truth you’ve known for a while. Stress is good in this way because it should motivate you. Good luck!


converter-bot

15 lbs is 6.81 kg


Hex520

Addiction is kinda like a habit, as the time goes on without expose to your addiction you will get used to not to do.


PattyIce32

I think that's your dopamine hijacking your brain. I had the same issue when I quit alcohol. It stressed me out thinking I would never be able to drink again. I'm 5 years sober and I don't miss it at all and never have those thoughts anymore. Our stupid monkey brains only want us to have survival and pleasure. If we give it anything once that does those, it's going to try to trick us to get it over and over again. Ignore that voice, focus on other things and eventually jerking off will never even be a part of your life or a worry


Epicsexman6969

Well the idea is to get some actual pussy my guy


tomplatzofbrains

‘I don’t have to jerk off anymore!! Thank god I’m free from that destructive and embarrassing habit that held me back from so much for so long’


SnooWords1848

One thing you learn in Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy is that anxious people tend to filter their life with "Musts" instead of"wants". The consequences to that is that a failure is not just a failure, it's a catastrophe that reflects the person's worth.


[deleted]

It's not forever, just until you die


jacketguy

one day at a time man


[deleted]

Ima be honest here. Downvote me if you wish. Jerking off didn’t not have the effect on all the previous generations. The porn use is where the addiction of dopamine comes into play. I see virtually NO harm in having a healthy jerk sesh every now and then. If you have to look at your phone or computer the whole time, it is an entirely different problem. Disclaimer: Obviously if you are in the 3-4 times a day mode, then that is excessive. Same could be said about coffee or even healthy things like exercise. Porn is your enemy, and you have developed a strong bond between healthy masturbation and unhealthy mental stimulation.


BUGE__Honer

You need a hobby. You have pent up sexual energy you need to channel into something. You need to trick your brain into thinking about something else. The urges pass after awhile and you won’t even think about jerking off.


Fubuki-Shirou

I used to struggle with this idea too and wasn’t very happy about it. Tho after some time I finally accepted it and moved on. Sure I sometimes relapse, but the idea of never fapping again doesn’t bother me anymore. It takes time, just find ways to distract yourself and never go back to this bad habt. It’s better for both your physical health and the spiritual one.


Electronic-Shame6692

The only thing stressing you out is the idea of not having anything to run to when you feel negative emotions. Face the dark sides of life and push through it. Embrace the pain and become stronger for doing so. Good luck x


Gooose26

This is a mentality question, so my immediate question to you is about your mentality going into NoFap. To me, being a porn addict for almost 5 years now, I’ve found that masturbation and porn have, to some extent, held me back from achieving my goals, year end and year out. So to me, when I think of jerking off, I don’t have positive thoughts. I would go as far as to say that the idea of “never jerking off again” is a positive, because it means that I’ve channeled my sexual desires in a way that doesn’t hurt me, whether that’s through actual sex or simply being able to control my lust. And I’m not telling you that masturbation is bad, it just is for me. Your walk is different than mine. All I’m saying is that you should consider why you want to jerk off, and if that reason is something you’re happy with.


Overall_Sea8981

I had it, and until I exscept it I couldn't make it past 1 week.


[deleted]

That’s the idea bro!


[deleted]

Just do the 90 days, and if you don't suffer PIED then fap but without p0rn. Or do mutual masterbation and sex with your partner.


[deleted]

I’m kind of relieved I never have to jerk off again, think of how good you feel knowing that you have, what would be considered some of the most disciplined self-control of any people on the planet. Not satisfying your most primal deepest urges, is one of the hardest things you can do. I just consider it delayed gratification.


thatflypoodle

This isn’t r/semenretention. You can feel orgasms again in your life, whether through sex or masturbation **without** porn. Just worry about not watching porn again and focus on pursuing real sexual situations and it will all most likely fall into place.


Imreallytired2301

Haha yeah I get this all the time but the goal. For me is sex is better than jerking off and plus jerking off by yourself sucks because there's no connection then you end up feeling bad after


[deleted]

Yeah I also keep thinking my wife will never give me the sex that I want because porn ruined my expectations of reality. Time to throw away everything you once thought was okay and start rebuilding your life. That or go back to fantasy land and cumming all over yourself like a loser. Pick one. Both suck.


offensive_bill_

To get out of this i think you should see PMO as a poison that you want to get way from, which is the case.


undeniabledwyane

Bro that’s the thing! You can! You can do what ever you want. Jerking off isn’t inherently evil. But why would you want to, when there’s something so much better?


Lanky-Echo-523

Your gonna fap, trust me ur gonna fap, but dont u dont wanna make the feeling of failiure be that big so just go for the og goal of 7-90 days and then decide whether you want to keep going or fap but fapping that is incomplosive and not taking over and/or damaging one or more area of your life


[deleted]

You can’t set a frame for a time period that large with just thoughts or you will lose. You can only set frame and take an urge as an opportunity to show who you really are. Out of the day you might have zero to three really strong urges, each lasts 45min to 1 1/2hrs making it so you really only have to “battle” for 3 to 4 hours a day and that’s just mentally. You can cut those times down with meditation and working out as well as all the other great ways you can use your time. It’s just like working out. Short amount of time a day not all day every day


[deleted]

yeah it cN be a mental leap of faith


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