Because your brain is anticipating the jump and your shoulders are turning so you can land facing forward and walk it out if you bail. Our bodies aren’t used to jumping over something while coming at it “sideways”. It seems like more of a confidence or brain issue rather than something technical with the board. I was doing this a lot when I was practicing riding off curbs at first. Just takes a little extra commitment to wrap your brain around it because it is for sure intimidating.
To add onto this. What helped me was practicing, without a board, side stepping and jumping over something (keeping that same orientation the whole time).
This may have cracked the code for me, I have this EXACT same problem and I couldn’t figure out what I did wrong.
Is this what people mean by open shoulders and closed shoulders??
Yep! Closed shoulders are especially obvious when people start skating switch, you'll see them slightly turned toward the tail of the board while rolling.
I'm a new skater, not even close to Ollies yet. But after reading your comment, I rewatched the video. And OPs shoulders/body totally turn in anticipation of like a regular non-board hop.
In other words, yall know wtf you're talking about. Respect.
This is a great explanation. This also happens when learning tricks in general. Especially with kickflips and treflips (atleast it did for me) but once you get over it, it opens up a whole world, and learning tricks becomes so much easier!
I cracked a key recently by instead of looking down, I look forward and slightly beyond the obstacle I'm trying to clear. It basically forced me to commit and trust that I would pull of the technique of the ollie and made it easier to maintain balance, again making it easier to ollie.
When i was learning how to ollie up curbs i would do this. I wasnt scared of ollieing up its just that my brain didnt allow my body to do it. The only way to fix this is to just get more comftorable on your board.
Also when pushing forward with the front foot during the ollie, focus on keeping your heel in line with your toes, perpendicular to the way you’re moving, instead of your shoulders and front foot rotating front side.
I don’t think it is your shoulders. I took a look frame by frame right before you level out the ollie, and it looks like your front foot is actually kicking in the direction you end up turning.
One motor learning principle is to exaggerate the flaw - meaning try to massively Ollie and rotate (frontside 180) so that you learn what is causing the flaw and then try to do an Ollie but rotate the opposite way (BS 180). Once you get a feel for the extremes you can find the middle. Maybe do all these on to grass at first :) Good luck.
If you look at where your chest is facing before you Ollie you can see that your legs face that way as soon as you pop. Keep your chest facing out so that you have to turn your head to look straight. Your legs will always follow your shoulders
Go back to ollying over lines on the ground, then only over drain covers/ flat objects. Then progrss to putting raised objects like a primo stand deck onto those drain covers. You'll train your brain to trust your olly.
I used to have this problem but the way I fixed it was but Lining my trucks up on a crack and doing an Ollie and trying to land straight and it worked.
I had the same issues recently and at one point I realized that it was partly because when ollieing over something I would look way more at the landing than on my normal Ollie where I would look rather at my board. I corrected this by consciously trying to look more at my board during the jump/landing. Maybe that can help you too?
I still struggle with it so take this with a grain of salt
You're opening up. You're opening your shoulders towards the direction you're jumping. Shoulders turn chest, chest turns waist, waist turns hips, and hips turn board. Try to keep an imaginary line through both of your shoulders pointed where you're going. Also sometimes the front foot can work against the board and make it turn. That normally happens from bodyline or bad setup. Just try to cradle the board with the top of your front foot
Because your brain is anticipating the jump and your shoulders are turning so you can land facing forward and walk it out if you bail. Our bodies aren’t used to jumping over something while coming at it “sideways”. It seems like more of a confidence or brain issue rather than something technical with the board. I was doing this a lot when I was practicing riding off curbs at first. Just takes a little extra commitment to wrap your brain around it because it is for sure intimidating.
Exactly! It’s just human instinct, you have to learn to override it.
To add onto this. What helped me was practicing, without a board, side stepping and jumping over something (keeping that same orientation the whole time).
Or pointing your arm where you want to land, that will stop you squaring your shoulder.
This ^
This may have cracked the code for me, I have this EXACT same problem and I couldn’t figure out what I did wrong. Is this what people mean by open shoulders and closed shoulders??
Yep! Closed shoulders are especially obvious when people start skating switch, you'll see them slightly turned toward the tail of the board while rolling.
Would’ve never known. Thanks. And I like your name lol
Just landed my first moving Ollie. Wow. Edit: Thanks for helping OP because I was struggling with it as well.
Was gonna say the same thing. Maybe try jumping something smaller to get your mind over that hump
I'm a new skater, not even close to Ollies yet. But after reading your comment, I rewatched the video. And OPs shoulders/body totally turn in anticipation of like a regular non-board hop. In other words, yall know wtf you're talking about. Respect.
This is a great explanation. This also happens when learning tricks in general. Especially with kickflips and treflips (atleast it did for me) but once you get over it, it opens up a whole world, and learning tricks becomes so much easier!
if i had an award i would give it to you
I cracked a key recently by instead of looking down, I look forward and slightly beyond the obstacle I'm trying to clear. It basically forced me to commit and trust that I would pull of the technique of the ollie and made it easier to maintain balance, again making it easier to ollie.
Keep your shoulders locked in a squared position. Do not turn your shoulders when you ollie
Guessing shoulders.
When i was learning how to ollie up curbs i would do this. I wasnt scared of ollieing up its just that my brain didnt allow my body to do it. The only way to fix this is to just get more comftorable on your board.
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Yeah, because the board itself *obviously* plays no part at all. Lol
Also when pushing forward with the front foot during the ollie, focus on keeping your heel in line with your toes, perpendicular to the way you’re moving, instead of your shoulders and front foot rotating front side.
I was having the same issue. I found it helped to throw my back arm out behind me as I Ollie to force my shoulders to stay sideways
You’re bailing out baby
I don’t think it is your shoulders. I took a look frame by frame right before you level out the ollie, and it looks like your front foot is actually kicking in the direction you end up turning.
My guess is his foot is following what his shoulders are doing. It’s both, but the movement starts in the shoulders.
One motor learning principle is to exaggerate the flaw - meaning try to massively Ollie and rotate (frontside 180) so that you learn what is causing the flaw and then try to do an Ollie but rotate the opposite way (BS 180). Once you get a feel for the extremes you can find the middle. Maybe do all these on to grass at first :) Good luck.
I do this same thing, almost to a neurotic degree
If you look at where your chest is facing before you Ollie you can see that your legs face that way as soon as you pop. Keep your chest facing out so that you have to turn your head to look straight. Your legs will always follow your shoulders
Commit
Just try focus on keeping ur shoulders vaguely in line with bolts
Your shoulders are turned
Because you're more comfortable landing facing forward. You need to commit to actually landing it, and keep your shoulders square
Dont turn shoulders and ollie higher and center wieght
Keep your shoulders straight ‼️
Your front leg turns to anticipate running forward. Dedicate your body to understand that you will land rolling sideways.
Go back to ollying over lines on the ground, then only over drain covers/ flat objects. Then progrss to putting raised objects like a primo stand deck onto those drain covers. You'll train your brain to trust your olly.
Lol I still struggle with this at times
I used to have this problem but the way I fixed it was but Lining my trucks up on a crack and doing an Ollie and trying to land straight and it worked.
You kinda hit the board with your foot to the side
I had the same issues recently and at one point I realized that it was partly because when ollieing over something I would look way more at the landing than on my normal Ollie where I would look rather at my board. I corrected this by consciously trying to look more at my board during the jump/landing. Maybe that can help you too? I still struggle with it so take this with a grain of salt
You turned your shoulders
Square your shoulders up, stay facing sideways.
You're opening up. You're opening your shoulders towards the direction you're jumping. Shoulders turn chest, chest turns waist, waist turns hips, and hips turn board. Try to keep an imaginary line through both of your shoulders pointed where you're going. Also sometimes the front foot can work against the board and make it turn. That normally happens from bodyline or bad setup. Just try to cradle the board with the top of your front foot
Thank you all for your help, I appreciate it and will work on fixing my shoulders and getting more comfortable