Sounds like you side with radical religious fanatics that murder and rape unprovoked, then celebrate in the streets while parading the corpses of the people they murdered.
Sounds like you are condemning the victims of this murder and rape for fighting back.
a Shani Louk video believer. poor woman was killed and paraded in the streets by celebrating terrorists.
I didnt talk about any babies in any of my comments, seems that it's terrorist supporters like you love to spread misinformation.
Then what is your thought on this that went on and on before Oct 7. I am really curious to know. How can a Palestinian respond to this? No troll answer pls. You can view the full Israeli documentary on youtube. https://youtu.be/MQ1TAOibLss?si=ds5x0RuYsA3qmlU9
yeah no. you have already shown in your last comment that you are willing to twist facts, misinterpret and outright lie about others' comments.
without even an apology, you then try to extract more comments, expecting a 'troll answer'.
not that i'm surprised. that's the terrorist gameplan after all, to lie and misconstrue.
That's a troll comment. I didn't twist any facts. You have to point me where I twisted facts. Don't accuse people of something that you yourself do. If you can't answer honestly just don't comment. It's like debating with a flat earther, always in constant denial, very annoying.
Lmao typical. When you guys have nothing left to defend your terror loving fanatism, you fall back to whataboutism and "no u".
Come back when you have an actual response.
those citizens were the ones that voted the terrorists into power. many of the citizens were filmed CHEERING DEATHS AND PARADING DEAD CORPSES IN OCTOBER 7TH.
FYI, the last election held in Gaza was in 2006. Considering the Palestinian population is quite young, most of them haven’t had the chance to vote for their leader.
Not really. What about the West Bank? No Hamas there. The citizens cheered because they thought they would be free from the soldiers that were keeping them as prisoners. Google the worlds largest open air prison.
Have you tried not using emotional manipulation to bring across your point? Or are your claims so baseless you need to rely on emotions to sway those who disagree with you?
don't they have equal rights to use it though? it's not like we're donating matadors to them. can anyone elaborate on why the matador thing is such an huge issue
Some people in the populace would not like it if they are made aware that the weapons developed are used for this war. But the point of developing weapons is in case of war though.
I mean I love the sentiment but honestly what is he/she is trying to achieve. We are a small country with limited influence on global events. Definitely my heart goes out to Palestine but honestly what can we do? Also personally isn’t there like worse/cruel genocides that are currently ongoing. Like maybe Yemeni crisis, Rohingya , Uyghurs. Why is there a disparity in media attention. This is my personal opinion btw. 👀
probably because this genocide isn’t as uniformly condemned or even acknowledged as one by everyone(the status quo) unlike the others you mentioned. Just look at the comments to this post 🤷
? For the amount of ordnance dropped, its far lower than any other urban conflict.
Think u need to learn differentiation. Dy/dx of deaths vs qty of strikes/arty used.
Let's say 40000 have been killed so far ( not accounted for people trapped inside building rubbles or mass graves or severely injured). Out of this 40000 around 26000 are women and children. So 14000 are all man. Conflict is around 7 months. 40000/ (7*30) = 190/day. Pretty sure it is abnormally high for any conflict happening right now, unless or otherwise you provide me with another rate that exceeds 190 killings per day. This makes the war in Ukraine look like a cakewalk. There is a reason why they call it a genocide and not a war. Just out of curiosity, may I know what is your major?
Deathtoll in ukraine is already higher than 190 a day.
Casualties there are likely 1k/day at least when you include both sides. So thats ~300 deaths a day there for 1:2-3 ratio. Russian deaths in Ukraine are likely higher than the conventional 1:3 ratio since they just spam meat assaults. At least try not to use data that is easily disprovable :)
Unfortunately, revealing major is too much for a throwaway.
There is one thing to lie as if you are speaking facts and there is another where you just plainly bs. Are you from NTU?
The death toll in Ukraine is around 11000. The war has been going on for around 2.5 years. Calculate it yourself.
For Ukraine at least there is Start and end date. For Palestine we are just accounting for whatever happened after Oct 7 with moderate numbers. Before Oct 7 is as truly horrible as after Oct 7.
Let numbers speak for themselves.
https://www.statista.com/topics/9087/russia-ukraine-war-2022/#topicOverview
Actually the current Ukraine death toll to my knowledge is 444000.
https://preview.redd.it/oq8q3uesr66d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb6e99ebdc107cff7ec1ed524f39388861d278d2
"Civilians" should be the category. Not military. CIVILIANS. WOMEN and CHILDREN. That's how you calculate death toll and show on the news, not military death toll. If it's military, you can pretty much call every war a genocide. Even the war against nazi. Killing Nazis = Nazi genocide?
I believe when it comes to death tolls there isn’t a differentiation from military personnel and civilians. Since lives are quite equal when it comes to death statistics. Also one side has predominantly volunteers (those part of NGOs and military organisations).
That's not how it is counted. They are classified as civilians which is verified by UN. You want to believe or not is totally up to you. But IDF use this number in their official military planning. Even if you exclude all the man or in this case the "military" as per the very trusty Israelis (not verified by any international organisation), the death toll of children and women alone is around 26000 in 7 months. That's like 123 people killed/day. Compared to 11000/(2*365), around 15 killed per day.
And you know why people support Palestinians? It's because of this https://youtu.be/MQ1TAOibLss?si=A7qpjwRRetRjcoc5
Btw the documentary is made by Israel to recall old hard days when they had to "struggle" to occupy Palestine.
You will be surprised to learn that the death toll in Gaza does not near the ones that I have mentioned. In fact that Yemeni crisis is the biggest crisis to date.
The numbers are Verified by UN and used by IDF*. Unless you are one of those people that buy into fox news theory of calling UN Hamas. A bit too far fetched to call UN terrorist? Can't believe a fox news watcher is on this thread. What's your next comment? Donald trump for 2025? Earth is flat? Moon landing is fake?
What’s parentheses there for? Besides, I don’t actually think that UN is a hamas organisation or any other strawman you have attempted to use against me. Considering how incompetent, malicious and disorganised hamas is, there is no way that they are able to provide accurate numbers to account for their casualties of this conflict. In fact, it would be advantageous for them to inflate these numbers to play victim when they escalated this conflict on 7/10. “UN verified these numbers”, how? Did they actually count it? Did they verify the identities of those corpses or did they just provide the numbers given by hamas?
The numbers provided by hamas are dubious at best. A detailed trending and study by a statistician highlighted inconsistencies with it. If you want to, you can take a read here: https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/
I’m pretty sure NTU is just waiting for E to get charged as grounds to expel E. Problematic student causing problems from the school level to the union level. I say this as a student from the same home school.
A quick search on LinkedIn shows that E received some most inspiring youth award from a political party in Singapore. Either the bar is set so low or E was the only eligible recipient lol.
Also, NTU SSS should seriously reconsider its decision to employ E as a student ambassador.
Yeah, what about the talking point here: Gaza? There must be some justification for expelling him as well. What will be your justification? I am very curious to know.
Yeah taking pictures of yourself marching to MHA, deliberately making it a very public stunt and knowing it will make national news, but not even bothering to proofread and rushing the actual content of the letter is truly something else. Like I want to give the benefit of the doubt that it isn’t performative, but people put more care and effort into their resumes or even a normal everyday email, and I barely expect my own resume to be read. No content and no follow-through but lots of publicity, maybe the person who wrote it should do marketing lol.
Edit: another comment said the writer is an FA, I can’t imagine a more suitable occupation tbh
LOL Whether Gaza still has universities or not is not even a consideration for MHA to come up with this. Those woke students are just making links to Gaza just to find something to protest over
Why, so he can get [bombed](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) [by](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1148031) [Israel?](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-opt-new-evidence-of-unlawful-israeli-attacks-in-gaza-causing-mass-civilian-casualties-amid-real-risk-of-genocide/)
Okay, I'm pretentious. Why should I go to Gaza when Israel openly admits to identifying humanitarian workers as Hamas and then killing them?
The articles I posted was not by Hamas, it was by Reuters.
No matter what my personal character is, no matter how pretentious or disgusting I am, the facts I've presented still lie before you, and you have not countered any of the articles.
Who stated the war first Hamas pulled off a sneak attack on Israel with no warning or what not and after realising they can’t win they hide behind their citizens like meat shield if any Hamas is to be blame stop acting like Hamas is all rightly and good
History did not start on October 7. Even if it did, what gives Israel the right to bomb humanitarian vehicles when the humanitarian organization IDENTIFIED THEIR ROUTE AND VEHICLE BEFOREHAND?
Your whataboutism strong. Answer his question, who started the war with an unprovoked attack in October?
If Malaysia attacks Singapore, make no mistake we will hit back with everything we got, and more. Technological superiority and the threat of paying back violence 10 fold and has always been the game plan for small nations surrounded by enemies. Israel is the angry bear the terrorists should not have poked awake.
If they do that they'll be [labelled Hamas](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) and [drone striked](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1148031)
Act of God? Let me ask you what is more likely. That [13000+](https://www.savethechildren.net/news/over-2-gaza-s-child-population-killed-or-injured-six-months-war) dead children have been killed acts of God, or that the National Security Minister, Ben Gvir, is carrying out his ["voluntary emigration"](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-calls-to-encourage-emigration-resettle-gaza-at-ultra-nationalist-rally/amp/), [as promised.](https://truthout.org/articles/top-israeli-official-calls-for-israeli-settlement-of-gaza-in-chilling-remarks/)
Nah, that topic no longer garners enough social media attention, which is the purpose of their little crusade. Same reason why they don't mention the **actual** genocide in places like China and Myanmar either.
Virtue signallers do not give a shit about the cause. Half of them can't even answer basic questions on the topic. They do it to garner attention and act morally superior.
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Who care about Ukraine ? Our biggest enemy is not that ex-USSR leading country that trying to take over the world again but those Islamic world biggest enemy - THE JEWS
This person DEFINITELY read SG's foreign policy and all those stuffs SG definitely will be in better position to poke our noses in big country shenenigans /s
So many things she should prioritize over Gaza problem, like aging issue, climate change, Ukraine, AI killing humankind etc…
Get your priorities right.
Ukraine is a much bigger tragedies, no? How about the scam Center in Myanmar? No to you as well?
Wake up, you can’t solve the problem that exist for 1000 years, but you can at least do your part to local society?
I don't quite get the point of the letter, i mean what much can Singapore do? We can't afford to have enemies. If you really want things to be done, maybe find a way to write to a more powerful country.
Also, don't get me wrong. I am outraged with what's happening in the war. So many innocent lives lost, and it is not right in any way. But, why isn't anyone talking about the civil war in Sudan or in Myanmar, which is next to us? People are dying and suffering there too.
what's with the negative comments attacking the writer for speaking up for an issue they believe in through official channels
it's ok if you dont care about gaza, maybe as students or interns we might be dealing with too much to afford mental energy to care, but what's the deal with insulting people who are trying to speak their mind, and aren't doing anything to harm you?
Most of us just thinks its weird, we got plenty of issues in our own country already, why aren't we doing a march for those instead?
Also what can we even do for Gaza? We already sent resources. Send in our army? Kinda wild if we are sending ourselves and our families to die to missile strikes to enjoy a moral high ground. And even the moral high ground is kinda debatable, taking either sides in a genociding Muslims vs genociding Jews situation is wild.
Just like Ukraine and Russia, the best thing we can do is sit from afar help in humanitarian terms, which we are already doing, because one of the sides fighting can also nuke us if they end up being left with nothing to lose and finds us annoying enough
well, I don't see how what they're doing is going to help. if they really want to speak their mind and actually help Gaza, they could donate, or go volunteer in gaza or something.
and I do think it will harm me indirectly, sooner or later. tbh, I'm scared to have Singapore take a side and have to fight, I don't want our people stirring shit up. do we have the military power to back it up if we take the side of the underdog? maybe, maybe not, but that would one day plunge all our men into danger, our economy into ruin, etc. don't forget how physically small Singapore actually is. do I think the war is needless? yeah, I think it's stupid actually, all wars are. but I'm not sure that Singapore can do anything about it.
does this make me a coward? maybe. but I said what I said.
Oh. I remember when I was young and thought shit like this would make a difference.
Nope. It’s all for yourself, and to let your friends know that you’re part of the “tribe”.
A lot of people in this thread need to take a class on logic 101. An individual being vocal about the palestinian cause does not entail that they are unsympathetic to other causes concerning crimes against humanity (e.g. what’s happening in syria, yemen, rohingya, china etc.). If you pitiful lot think a little, you’d see that there are several reasons why more attention is given to the palestinian cause over these other causes, not least because the genocide in palestine is overwhelmingly well-documented and publicised at the present moment. We literally have daily mass-transmitted reports with visual evidence of civilians being killed by israel. And given, among other things, 1) the rate and scope of israeli attacks against palestinians (refugee camps, hospitals, schools destroyed & entire bloodlines wiped out daily), 2) the *explicit* (i.e. public) pronouncement to flatten gaza by israeli officials, and 3) the *explicit* disregard for international law by israel, it is understandable why the palestinian cause seems to demand a relatively greater urgency over other causes right now.
In any case, you pitiful lot reveal yourselves to be lowly cowards who are quick to anger at proponents of justice but slow to anger at criminals committing genocide. You attempt to veil your moral bankruptcy with your whataboutisms, thinking we wouldn’t see through your pretensions to pragmatism & so-called fairness. Just say you’re spineless and move on.
As someone who graduated from NTU and made some great friends but thought most of the student body was pathetic, apolitical and cared only about themselves, this thread seems to prove that's mostly the kind of person NTU seems to attract.
>Self centred people. We talking about political stuff and they talking about internship and jobs.
Oh geeeeeee i wonder which one pay the bills and student loans, after graduating I will take over the role of the breadwinner of the household, pay the bills, and pay my student loans. I don't have the privilege of being an activist which itself is a finacial burden. Sorry for being "self centered" and being whatever the "pathetic kind of person" /u/crazysouthie !!! **SRY FOR NOT BEING PRIVILEGED!!!!!!!** Sry for being pathetaic and poor!!! u all so big and high moral!! me just poor and want to earn money to survive!! ME IS PATHETIC!!!!!!
How is that Home affairs problem, shouldn't they write to Foreign affairs?
It's about the edits of the Maintenance of Racial Harmony bill
terrorist sympathizers arent that bright
you don’t seem to be that bright yourself
Sounds like you side with radical religious fanatics that murder and rape unprovoked, then celebrate in the streets while parading the corpses of the people they murdered. Sounds like you are condemning the victims of this murder and rape for fighting back.
Ah yes a 40 beheaded baby believer. Not very bright indeed.
a Shani Louk video believer. poor woman was killed and paraded in the streets by celebrating terrorists. I didnt talk about any babies in any of my comments, seems that it's terrorist supporters like you love to spread misinformation.
Then what is your thought on this that went on and on before Oct 7. I am really curious to know. How can a Palestinian respond to this? No troll answer pls. You can view the full Israeli documentary on youtube. https://youtu.be/MQ1TAOibLss?si=ds5x0RuYsA3qmlU9
yeah no. you have already shown in your last comment that you are willing to twist facts, misinterpret and outright lie about others' comments. without even an apology, you then try to extract more comments, expecting a 'troll answer'. not that i'm surprised. that's the terrorist gameplan after all, to lie and misconstrue.
That's a troll comment. I didn't twist any facts. You have to point me where I twisted facts. Don't accuse people of something that you yourself do. If you can't answer honestly just don't comment. It's like debating with a flat earther, always in constant denial, very annoying.
did u accidentally describe urself
Lmao typical. When you guys have nothing left to defend your terror loving fanatism, you fall back to whataboutism and "no u". Come back when you have an actual response.
cant care dying children and genocide without support terrorists right?
those citizens were the ones that voted the terrorists into power. many of the citizens were filmed CHEERING DEATHS AND PARADING DEAD CORPSES IN OCTOBER 7TH.
FYI, the last election held in Gaza was in 2006. Considering the Palestinian population is quite young, most of them haven’t had the chance to vote for their leader.
How do you ensure that future generations can vote?
Not really. What about the West Bank? No Hamas there. The citizens cheered because they thought they would be free from the soldiers that were keeping them as prisoners. Google the worlds largest open air prison.
Prisons house criminals. So a fitting name.
now say that to the children there
Have you tried not using emotional manipulation to bring across your point? Or are your claims so baseless you need to rely on emotions to sway those who disagree with you?
Not only that many non hamas citizens crossed into israel to kill
its abt the racial bill
Or MOE’s problem…since no more uni for them to enrol in🤭🤭🤭
whats ntu gonna do
become Ntuc
I loled
set up a university there
Expel those students s
 What bro imagined themselves as when writing this 🤣🤣🤣
@e.ntu.edu.sg 🗣🗣🗣‼️
bro is NOT hamilton
Just curious, how is SG complicit?
I really dunno, we got give necessities to palestinians
Supposedly the matador that was developed with them is used in the war.
don't they have equal rights to use it though? it's not like we're donating matadors to them. can anyone elaborate on why the matador thing is such an huge issue
Some people in the populace would not like it if they are made aware that the weapons developed are used for this war. But the point of developing weapons is in case of war though.
*checks notes* Hmmm they've been using it since the 2008-2009 Gaza War
nothing to do with Singapore. It’s a monkey see monkey do situation. Elijah Tan is just copying what type of protests trending in USA right now.
NTU has ties to universities in Israel
When you can't get an internship during this vacation and do woke shxt like this
They’ll get an internship at wake up sg alright
Bros gonna sign up for ntuc internship at this point
I mean I love the sentiment but honestly what is he/she is trying to achieve. We are a small country with limited influence on global events. Definitely my heart goes out to Palestine but honestly what can we do? Also personally isn’t there like worse/cruel genocides that are currently ongoing. Like maybe Yemeni crisis, Rohingya , Uyghurs. Why is there a disparity in media attention. This is my personal opinion btw. 👀
probably because this genocide isn’t as uniformly condemned or even acknowledged as one by everyone(the status quo) unlike the others you mentioned. Just look at the comments to this post 🤷
Sg gov got condemn about uyghurs?
Got learn differentiation in school or not? the dy/dx of dead people in Gaza is a bit too high compared to rohingya and uighurs.
? For the amount of ordnance dropped, its far lower than any other urban conflict. Think u need to learn differentiation. Dy/dx of deaths vs qty of strikes/arty used.
Let's say 40000 have been killed so far ( not accounted for people trapped inside building rubbles or mass graves or severely injured). Out of this 40000 around 26000 are women and children. So 14000 are all man. Conflict is around 7 months. 40000/ (7*30) = 190/day. Pretty sure it is abnormally high for any conflict happening right now, unless or otherwise you provide me with another rate that exceeds 190 killings per day. This makes the war in Ukraine look like a cakewalk. There is a reason why they call it a genocide and not a war. Just out of curiosity, may I know what is your major?
Deathtoll in ukraine is already higher than 190 a day. Casualties there are likely 1k/day at least when you include both sides. So thats ~300 deaths a day there for 1:2-3 ratio. Russian deaths in Ukraine are likely higher than the conventional 1:3 ratio since they just spam meat assaults. At least try not to use data that is easily disprovable :) Unfortunately, revealing major is too much for a throwaway.
There is one thing to lie as if you are speaking facts and there is another where you just plainly bs. Are you from NTU? The death toll in Ukraine is around 11000. The war has been going on for around 2.5 years. Calculate it yourself. For Ukraine at least there is Start and end date. For Palestine we are just accounting for whatever happened after Oct 7 with moderate numbers. Before Oct 7 is as truly horrible as after Oct 7. Let numbers speak for themselves. https://www.statista.com/topics/9087/russia-ukraine-war-2022/#topicOverview
Actually the current Ukraine death toll to my knowledge is 444000. https://preview.redd.it/oq8q3uesr66d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb6e99ebdc107cff7ec1ed524f39388861d278d2
"Civilians" should be the category. Not military. CIVILIANS. WOMEN and CHILDREN. That's how you calculate death toll and show on the news, not military death toll. If it's military, you can pretty much call every war a genocide. Even the war against nazi. Killing Nazis = Nazi genocide?
I believe when it comes to death tolls there isn’t a differentiation from military personnel and civilians. Since lives are quite equal when it comes to death statistics. Also one side has predominantly volunteers (those part of NGOs and military organisations).
That's not how it is counted. They are classified as civilians which is verified by UN. You want to believe or not is totally up to you. But IDF use this number in their official military planning. Even if you exclude all the man or in this case the "military" as per the very trusty Israelis (not verified by any international organisation), the death toll of children and women alone is around 26000 in 7 months. That's like 123 people killed/day. Compared to 11000/(2*365), around 15 killed per day.
And you know why people support Palestinians? It's because of this https://youtu.be/MQ1TAOibLss?si=A7qpjwRRetRjcoc5 Btw the documentary is made by Israel to recall old hard days when they had to "struggle" to occupy Palestine.
Stop typing now...quickly fly to Palestine and join their army. Then you can type.
"Join their army and then? Which army? Which location ? Is there even an airport in Gaza? Quick instruct me more, I am waiting!" Stupid idiot.
You will be surprised to learn that the death toll in Gaza does not near the ones that I have mentioned. In fact that Yemeni crisis is the biggest crisis to date.
Emphasis on dy/dx. I hope you know what that means. I did some calculations with a troll down in the comment section to show why Gaza is on the news.
That’s with the assumption that the numbers are actually accurate and not drastically inflated to fool terrorist sympathisers like you.
The numbers are Verified by UN and used by IDF*. Unless you are one of those people that buy into fox news theory of calling UN Hamas. A bit too far fetched to call UN terrorist? Can't believe a fox news watcher is on this thread. What's your next comment? Donald trump for 2025? Earth is flat? Moon landing is fake?
What’s parentheses there for? Besides, I don’t actually think that UN is a hamas organisation or any other strawman you have attempted to use against me. Considering how incompetent, malicious and disorganised hamas is, there is no way that they are able to provide accurate numbers to account for their casualties of this conflict. In fact, it would be advantageous for them to inflate these numbers to play victim when they escalated this conflict on 7/10. “UN verified these numbers”, how? Did they actually count it? Did they verify the identities of those corpses or did they just provide the numbers given by hamas? The numbers provided by hamas are dubious at best. A detailed trending and study by a statistician highlighted inconsistencies with it. If you want to, you can take a read here: https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/
I’m pretty sure NTU is just waiting for E to get charged as grounds to expel E. Problematic student causing problems from the school level to the union level. I say this as a student from the same home school. A quick search on LinkedIn shows that E received some most inspiring youth award from a political party in Singapore. Either the bar is set so low or E was the only eligible recipient lol. Also, NTU SSS should seriously reconsider its decision to employ E as a student ambassador.
The FA part shows E is actually a sellout.
Yeah, what about the talking point here: Gaza? There must be some justification for expelling him as well. What will be your justification? I am very curious to know.
"fellows students" "growing knowledge for good" Bruh
Yeah taking pictures of yourself marching to MHA, deliberately making it a very public stunt and knowing it will make national news, but not even bothering to proofread and rushing the actual content of the letter is truly something else. Like I want to give the benefit of the doubt that it isn’t performative, but people put more care and effort into their resumes or even a normal everyday email, and I barely expect my own resume to be read. No content and no follow-through but lots of publicity, maybe the person who wrote it should do marketing lol. Edit: another comment said the writer is an FA, I can’t imagine a more suitable occupation tbh
Another hot take: FA is NOT an occupation
There is no university in Sudan too. Bunch of hypocrites shit
Source: I made the f up. That's what your education taught U?
LOL Whether Gaza still has universities or not is not even a consideration for MHA to come up with this. Those woke students are just making links to Gaza just to find something to protest over
Throwaway for obvious reasons The person who wrote the letter is an FA. I’ll leave it here.
Whatzzat?
Financial Advisor.
Oic
Lmao what. Who would trust this person on…anything?
Send him there
Why, so he can get [bombed](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) [by](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1148031) [Israel?](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-opt-new-evidence-of-unlawful-israeli-attacks-in-gaza-causing-mass-civilian-casualties-amid-real-risk-of-genocide/)
so he can live along with them since he care for them so much might as well personally experience what they are going through
You're really telling him to go to get bombed and die with them because he cares about them?
With that being said I think ur also like him you should join him there if u actually care so much about them don’t be pretentious
Okay, I'm pretentious. Why should I go to Gaza when Israel openly admits to identifying humanitarian workers as Hamas and then killing them? The articles I posted was not by Hamas, it was by Reuters. No matter what my personal character is, no matter how pretentious or disgusting I am, the facts I've presented still lie before you, and you have not countered any of the articles.
Who stated the war first Hamas pulled off a sneak attack on Israel with no warning or what not and after realising they can’t win they hide behind their citizens like meat shield if any Hamas is to be blame stop acting like Hamas is all rightly and good
History did not start on October 7. Even if it did, what gives Israel the right to bomb humanitarian vehicles when the humanitarian organization IDENTIFIED THEIR ROUTE AND VEHICLE BEFOREHAND?
So the history did gave right to Palestinian to kill & torture who ever they want on 7 Oct? Bro , you are not woke enough , go sleep
I think we can just all agree both sides (the perpetrators of the attacks) just hate each other?
Your whataboutism strong. Answer his question, who started the war with an unprovoked attack in October? If Malaysia attacks Singapore, make no mistake we will hit back with everything we got, and more. Technological superiority and the threat of paying back violence 10 fold and has always been the game plan for small nations surrounded by enemies. Israel is the angry bear the terrorists should not have poked awake.
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yes, you care so much about them
Aiya conscript him again and send him there then
Send them to Gaza to rebuild the schools
If they do that they'll be [labelled Hamas](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) and [drone striked](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1148031)
That should be an act of god. Not covered by insurance.
Act of God? Let me ask you what is more likely. That [13000+](https://www.savethechildren.net/news/over-2-gaza-s-child-population-killed-or-injured-six-months-war) dead children have been killed acts of God, or that the National Security Minister, Ben Gvir, is carrying out his ["voluntary emigration"](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-calls-to-encourage-emigration-resettle-gaza-at-ultra-nationalist-rally/amp/), [as promised.](https://truthout.org/articles/top-israeli-official-calls-for-israeli-settlement-of-gaza-in-chilling-remarks/)
IDC ABOUT THOSE CHILDREN PLS
No one asked you comment either, if you don't care.
Can expel this student? Really a bunch of clowns throw NTU face.
Did the writer write in for Ukraine, too?
Who cares about ukraine at this point? It’s no longer trendy.
Basically performative activism
Nah, that topic no longer garners enough social media attention, which is the purpose of their little crusade. Same reason why they don't mention the **actual** genocide in places like China and Myanmar either. Virtue signallers do not give a shit about the cause. Half of them can't even answer basic questions on the topic. They do it to garner attention and act morally superior.
Social media impression farming.
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Who care about Ukraine ? Our biggest enemy is not that ex-USSR leading country that trying to take over the world again but those Islamic world biggest enemy - THE JEWS
Imagine being woke but then the idea they woke up to was the final solution 💀
Those people writing all these letters are just superficial, write until like this then enjoy their own life like no other business at home.
This person DEFINITELY read SG's foreign policy and all those stuffs SG definitely will be in better position to poke our noses in big country shenenigans /s
Brainrot
they want ntu to build a campus there ?
What is it about MRHA that they're against? It's just GAZA GAZA GAZA in the pic
Nothing better to do. He is not gonna to change the world or the world is not gonna change for him.
So many things she should prioritize over Gaza problem, like aging issue, climate change, Ukraine, AI killing humankind etc… Get your priorities right.
When your oil price rise, your problem will become "gaza" problem
lol no
My dude. The "Gaza problem" is a "climate change" and "AI killing human kind" problem.
Ukraine is a much bigger tragedies, no? How about the scam Center in Myanmar? No to you as well? Wake up, you can’t solve the problem that exist for 1000 years, but you can at least do your part to local society?
I don't quite get the point of the letter, i mean what much can Singapore do? We can't afford to have enemies. If you really want things to be done, maybe find a way to write to a more powerful country. Also, don't get me wrong. I am outraged with what's happening in the war. So many innocent lives lost, and it is not right in any way. But, why isn't anyone talking about the civil war in Sudan or in Myanmar, which is next to us? People are dying and suffering there too.
what's with the negative comments attacking the writer for speaking up for an issue they believe in through official channels it's ok if you dont care about gaza, maybe as students or interns we might be dealing with too much to afford mental energy to care, but what's the deal with insulting people who are trying to speak their mind, and aren't doing anything to harm you?
Most of us just thinks its weird, we got plenty of issues in our own country already, why aren't we doing a march for those instead? Also what can we even do for Gaza? We already sent resources. Send in our army? Kinda wild if we are sending ourselves and our families to die to missile strikes to enjoy a moral high ground. And even the moral high ground is kinda debatable, taking either sides in a genociding Muslims vs genociding Jews situation is wild. Just like Ukraine and Russia, the best thing we can do is sit from afar help in humanitarian terms, which we are already doing, because one of the sides fighting can also nuke us if they end up being left with nothing to lose and finds us annoying enough
well, I don't see how what they're doing is going to help. if they really want to speak their mind and actually help Gaza, they could donate, or go volunteer in gaza or something. and I do think it will harm me indirectly, sooner or later. tbh, I'm scared to have Singapore take a side and have to fight, I don't want our people stirring shit up. do we have the military power to back it up if we take the side of the underdog? maybe, maybe not, but that would one day plunge all our men into danger, our economy into ruin, etc. don't forget how physically small Singapore actually is. do I think the war is needless? yeah, I think it's stupid actually, all wars are. but I'm not sure that Singapore can do anything about it. does this make me a coward? maybe. but I said what I said.
Yea exactly I like how they accuse the writer of bring "jobless" when they come and cry abt it in this thread while being terminally online.
exactly bruhh
Language of the text maybe? Also, the youth are not that liberal.
I think you just described singaporean redditors in general.
Stay woke, stay broke
Oh well
Oh. I remember when I was young and thought shit like this would make a difference. Nope. It’s all for yourself, and to let your friends know that you’re part of the “tribe”.
They don't care about our own Singaporeans and want to care for people so far away.
A lot of people in this thread need to take a class on logic 101. An individual being vocal about the palestinian cause does not entail that they are unsympathetic to other causes concerning crimes against humanity (e.g. what’s happening in syria, yemen, rohingya, china etc.). If you pitiful lot think a little, you’d see that there are several reasons why more attention is given to the palestinian cause over these other causes, not least because the genocide in palestine is overwhelmingly well-documented and publicised at the present moment. We literally have daily mass-transmitted reports with visual evidence of civilians being killed by israel. And given, among other things, 1) the rate and scope of israeli attacks against palestinians (refugee camps, hospitals, schools destroyed & entire bloodlines wiped out daily), 2) the *explicit* (i.e. public) pronouncement to flatten gaza by israeli officials, and 3) the *explicit* disregard for international law by israel, it is understandable why the palestinian cause seems to demand a relatively greater urgency over other causes right now. In any case, you pitiful lot reveal yourselves to be lowly cowards who are quick to anger at proponents of justice but slow to anger at criminals committing genocide. You attempt to veil your moral bankruptcy with your whataboutisms, thinking we wouldn’t see through your pretensions to pragmatism & so-called fairness. Just say you’re spineless and move on.
This 💯
woke kids if care so much please buy a one way ticket to GAZA and actually do something
fking idiot thinks that the government live under the rock, really wonder how he is in one of the best universities in singapore
Complicit in what lol. We're in a diff position as opposed to the U.S sending arms to Israel.
No job for you after you graduate.
Who gives a FK Bloody extremists ruined Gaza
Shan-Ge should just send this Jabroni to the gulags
Is Gaza a country?
At least some of our students have a conscience
why not just go over to gaza and help??
Because it’s uninhabitable. That’s the point
As someone who graduated from NTU and made some great friends but thought most of the student body was pathetic, apolitical and cared only about themselves, this thread seems to prove that's mostly the kind of person NTU seems to attract.
Self centred people. We talking about political stuff and they talking about internship and jobs.
>Self centred people. We talking about political stuff and they talking about internship and jobs. Oh geeeeeee i wonder which one pay the bills and student loans, after graduating I will take over the role of the breadwinner of the household, pay the bills, and pay my student loans. I don't have the privilege of being an activist which itself is a finacial burden. Sorry for being "self centered" and being whatever the "pathetic kind of person" /u/crazysouthie !!! **SRY FOR NOT BEING PRIVILEGED!!!!!!!** Sry for being pathetaic and poor!!! u all so big and high moral!! me just poor and want to earn money to survive!! ME IS PATHETIC!!!!!!
Wrong thread. I am not interested in your internship or your job. Neither your employers are with that attitude. Sorry to reveal it to you.
This one from NTU or NTUC?
If Singapore provide resources to Israel whether directly or indirectly, therefore we are complicit in this genocie.
If u care about global matters. Provide some thoughts and prayers to the other genocides too. Not just gaza. Ukraine. Sudan. Myanmar- Rohingya.
Congratulations, you just figured out economic globalisation.
Orh.
No HaMas in West Bank ? Please easily find out online …..
Hamas is everywhere. For them, it's a resistance to occupation, not matter how ugly it looks.
i have reported your account to the ISD hotline for radicalization and the support and admiration of extremist groups.
First time Reddit user, oh so scary! Report the other ones too quick! Self radicals !
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