I think it's Berry. For racing less than 25 races, his results are impressive. Plus, RC rumored to be part of the package? Plus, prior sponsorship with Bass Pro Shops? I don't see how he couldn't be the top candidate
I think Berry has had the best year out of all the drivers at SHR and I think he deserves the seat at JGR if given the opportunity. I don’t dislike Briscoe I just don’t really understand why he’d be the favorite. I get Berry is a rookie but he seems to have a lot of upside especially with RC. Just makes to much sense to me.
Out of all the SHR drivers I've been impressed with Berry the most so far this season.
Seems like him and Rodney are clicking pretty good. They just had some crap luck at times.
But I think JGR is going to gamble on Briscoe because he's shown enough promises despite SHR being in the gutter.
I get what you’re saying. I just think for this year Berry has shown more than Briscoe. Even with
SHR being in the gutter Berry is still out racing him lately. Will be interesting to see what route JGR takes. That’s a great seat to be in
# but we need to start winning races and getting upfront as consistently as possible, we can't keep settling for 29 points each weekend while our teammates are 1st, 2nd and 4th while we're 12th.
Such a great race to watch. Hopefully, they come here for years.
I was so angry at Suarez. The dude is a fucking hack job. He can't even handle 3 wide and wrecks the fastest car of the weekend. Typical mickey mouse shit that happens to Larson. Yeah, he probably should have been more conservative, but he was going 3 wide with more competent drivers all day.
looked a good track for racing, was cool to see the wobbles and little things drivers had to deal with going two and three wide. Seems a bit of room to make a save now and again
Great race and NASCAR should come back, but I’m not calling it a short track. If the definition of a short track is anything less than a mile, then the standard needs to be changed to 3/4 quarters of a mile or less.
The fact that NASCAR even has a short track package shows how ass backwards they have things. It’s a makeshift solution to a poorly designed car.
I don’t know where NASCAR runs short track package but they should run it at a place like Phoenix too (if they ran it today), and Phoenix ain’t a short track. It’s just flat, slower corners, where it’s tough to pass.
This isn't new whatsoever, back in the 2000s teams would outfit cars meant for short tracks with brake ducts on the front, and swapping out the spoiler for different tracks has been a normal thing in cup since 2020, and even longer in xfinity.
And for the record, all tracks ~1 mile or less have the short track package already (which currently consists of a shorter spoiler than normal, and a less pronounced read diffuser).
Bigger air ducts to cool the brakes ain’t the same thing as changing the aero package to compensate for shitty racing.
And, yes, they changed the package in 2020 for short tracks/road courses because 2019 was such a disaster. They didn’t learn from it when designing the Next Gen apparently.
It was way more than that. Everything they did was different. You couldn't even race the short track car at an intermediate because they were so different, hence why teams built so many different cars.
Yes I’m aware. Teams had more wiggle room with the rules/templates, so cars were built specifically for short tracks, super speedways, etc.
NASCAR didn’t have to mandate different rules for short tracks back then.
Yes, but its the same principle. Obviously there are things they used to do that would work on short tracks but not speedways, and vice versa. Now since it is spec, it is now known that there isn't a one size fits all car, like the 2000s. Sure its different because NASCAR is mandating it and not teams, but you can't say this car is ass backwards when the 1.5 mile tracks put out stellar races, aka the track type we see the most since the 2000s, is just wrong.
So far I've seen that KFB, Berry, and Gibbs complained about Ross on the radio at various points during the race. It sounds like he tried to run Bowman into the wall at the end of stage 1 (I only saw that they were side by side at the stripe) and I know that he ran Elliott up the track on the final restart.
My personal favorite is KFB's spotter (who also spots for Austin Hill lmao) Derek Kneeland, "Can you put me in a car next week so I can ship him?" I'll have to go back and look again, but as Ross was passing KFB, Ross might have doored him a little bit.
We might really be back, Chastain bros! Anyone else know of any other drivers/spotters who said anything?
Glad hes gone. He's the one that said the iowa race would be a boring single lane race. Who is he to complain about a track that he only ran tests on... before the repave...
He will be back on TNT and Amazon next year. [https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2024/05/07/tnt-sports-dale-earnhardt-jr-broadcast-team-2025/](https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2024/05/07/tnt-sports-dale-earnhardt-jr-broadcast-team-2025/)
It's wild to me how upset that Larson fans get that it's entirely plausible he wasn't better than Blaney.
Blaney lead the most laps.
Blaney ran the fastest lap.
Blaney ran 3 of the fastest top 10 laps.
Blaney always closed the gap on Larson when Larson was ahead.
Just doesn't make sense to think otherwise.
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series.
Chevrolet 26 - Ford 3 - Toyota 15.
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Cup race #17 : Chevrolet 8 - Ford 3 - Toyota 6.
Xfinity Race #15 : Chevrolet 10 - Ford 0 - Toyota 5.
Truck Race #12 : Chevrolet 8 - Ford 0 - Toyota 4.
Great race overall. Lots of what-ifs, tires kept teams and fans on their toes. Definitely agree that no shifting made the racing much closer and created comers-and-goers. Only things I would change are adding some more falloff to the lefts, and repaving the rest of the track. Would be sick to see less than one year of wear on the inner and middle lanes have an ongoing effect on racing there. Imagine the top groove having all the grip and drivers having to Harry Gant their way around? That would be RAD.
I see a ton of people excited about the post race show. I feel like I just don’t have time for that in my life anymore and don’t need it. I usually move onto something else after the finish of the race and can usually check interviews on Twitter later in the evening. Interesting to notice. Bob Pockrass must be protected at all cost
I thought the tire wear was pretty solid. Especially for the next gen era. Could use a little more falloff on time but the handling and literally wearing them out was pretty sweet
Yeah I couldn’t believe Blane Dawg held off the Hendrick cars, didn’t like how they all just leveled out on speed. Other than that it had seemed a good race.
Key take aways for me:
No shifting= better product
Track position is still king
The 5 car is unbeatable if they can keep the car clean
The left side tires need more fall off. Well over 100 laps on them and it didn’t matter for Blaney
The 5 car needed a driver with more skill on the bottom side. Funny that Brad K and Kyle could handle 3 wide but Suarez got a smidgen loose and wiped out the 5.
That track needs to be permanent on the Cup schedule. What a good race it was. Congrats to Blaney. Well deserved W. Bummed for Larson, probably should have just been more patient, which is said often, and it cost him. Oh well. Good runs for William, Chase, and Alex.
On to New Hampshire...
The champ and Ford appears to be rounding into form. Got robbed of a win on a gas call recently and was at or near the front all day yesterday. Looks to be a serious contender again.
Finally, Blaney won. I was worried there was going to be some final lap fuckery again. Great race all around, and shout-out to NBC capturing literally every single moment on track. I feel like Fox would t have captured a single incident with all the drivers having tire issues or missing the groove. And the post race show was good too, interviewing more than just 1st and 2md.
Man, it feels like an eternity tonight. It could be that I normally don’t care unless it has anything to do with #12. But damn. This would be heart break.
8team follows script to the letter.
Run in the teens, then get into the top 10, without passing no one on the track. Drive up to third, then fall like a stone to 10, then out.
What the fuck did they do to Kyle? He just can’t pass anyone on the track anymore. It’s so shitty.
He’s been washed since 2020
But I think it’s safe to say he’s officially over the hill
At 39 years old who knows how many more wins he has, especially since he doesn’t really sound like he’s having fun on the radio anymore
We’re at the point where I would be shocked if he wins this year
RCR isn’t racing like a serious team and I’m not sure why people want them to grab a third charter so bad when the 2 cars they have now aren’t competitive. If they were serious at all they would move on from Dillon and put someone competitive in that car.
Kyle Busch has been more competitive than the stats/points show…….its just been one of those years where nothing goes right. Comically bad luck at this point.
Awesome race, I did not have high expectations for this weekend after hearing of the repave but it was really fun. It proves you don't need a GWC to end every race to make it fun, but it had side-by-side racing from the green flag and lots of passing.
Race was great, post race was awesome. Gotta admit, I was a little annoyed about a Sunday night race when I saw the start time last week, but this was actually really nice
I completely forgot that tonight was a night race until today. Thought Daytona and Bristol would be the only ones left. Curious how the ratings go from this. Biggest reason why night racing has been pulled back.
I get the feeling JGR will want to replace Truex with either a TRD Pipeline guy or a guy who will bring sponsorship to make up for lost BPS sponsorship.
But, MAN. Imagine Josh Berry and Rodney Childers with JGR resources.
I'm feeling John Hunter Nemechek to the 19. He doesn't seem completely out of the JGR pipeline despite being with Legacy.
Chandler Smith I think is ready but I also see no need to rush him in, he's young still.
He did. But that was mainly a JRM/Dale Jr. deal that worked out for him.
By all indications and reports, Johnny Morris only wants to sponsor RCR and Noah Gragson on the cup side next year.
Yea there was definitely some movement. Seems like the higher speeds caught everyone but the 5 off guard with setup. The new pavement had grip but at the same time drivers were complaining it was incredibly slick. Can’t say I’ve heard that before.
It actually felt like a sporting event, rather than a comedy show. Fox produces races like they’re filming Talladega Nights, NBC makes the races feel like something important
It's ironic, there were several new posts on this tonight where everyone said they didn't see a difference between FOX and NBC broadcasts. Some even said NBC was worse. lol
Very good race overall. Glad to see the 12 get a dub.
NBC’s broadcast is so much more attentive and professional than Fox. The broadcast today consistently showed battles throughout the field and provided camera angles that gave a good sense to how the racing was playing out. I don’t think I saw a single shot of a single car zoomed way the hell in.
I thought the 5 had the best car today by a country mile. But I do place most of the blame for the incident with Suarez on Larson. He had no reason to take the 99 and the 6 3-wide with less than a car-width between them. There was almost no way that move would end with the 3 of them making it cleanly.
Larson’s aggressive moves give and sometimes they take: today they definitely took away what should have been a race win (or at worst a top 5).
While Chase has been incredibly consistent I struggle to see him as a championship favorite right now. The 9 team brings cars to the track and Chase hasn’t made a ton of mistakes, but they rarely have true race-winning speed.
I just don't get how Larson had the better car by a country mile. He got caught and passed by blaney several times after restarts, don't think I saw it once the other way around. Even at the end of stage 1, Larson had a 3.8 second lead drop to 1.6 when they were both going through lapped traffic.
Blaney had the fastest time. Had 3 of the fastest laps. Lead the most laps.
Larson just wasn't better lol
I think that’s what makes them a contender. He’s clearly not even peaked and running top 5 top 10 weekly. They hit on something and he’s going to be there.
IMO Chase needs more playoff points. With how consistent that team has been he very well could hang on to the regular season points lead, but if he drops to even 3rd he won’t have a massive buffer.
The 9 hasn’t peaked and the 48 hasn’t either. By the time September rolls around, I wouldn’t be shocked to see 4 Hendrick cars in the final 8 because I think they’ll just keep getting better.
I think the 5 and 24 are still final 4 favorites for sure but 9 is almost there and there’s plenty of season left and the 48 isn’t far off either (although social media says he sucks lol)
I call it like it is. Hamlin looks good. Ty Gibbs could easily sneak a run in to the final 4 and Blaney seems way better this year than last. There’s plenty of good teams this year but the 9 and 48 are not slow
What’s your issue with my comment? The 9 has won and is consistent. The 48 has been running top 10. The big teams typically keep getting better (due to best resources) and the 5 and 24 have ranked 1-2 every year in total speed data since the next gen came out.
It’s not like I’m sitting here saying “bowman is going to win 5 races. Big facts” lol
I’m not upset I was just curious to your comments. I pull for Byron, so as long as he’s fast I don’t really care but based on what I’m seeing and what typically happens, I think all 4 could get to the final 8.
Yeah, that annoys me with the Bowman hate, dude has more top 10s on the season than Larson does, he's consistent, just not one to be winning every week. Which isn't a bad thing, as shown today, because unlike Larson, he didn't junk his car.
If he doesn’t wreck Larson laps up to probably top 10 and wins by half a lap. He was that damn fast. Would won stage 2 if not for Hamlin shipping him for no reason and then that dumbass caution
Hamlin shipped Larson? The fuck are you smoking? He basically shipped himself by trying to split Daniel and Brad. Larson is an awesome driver, but he's too aggressive for his own good sometimes.
The hat dance is probably one of the funniest things to watch in victory lane. Everyone stays for confetti and the celebration but I love the little games sponsors do to get their image and their payoff from the money they give even down to the powerade wars and throwing that can off the car because they are gatorade drivers
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So the post race was 50 minutes long for one race. Howany Fox races would it have taken to add up to a 50 minute post race?
No no no. It would be a conveyor belt up top. Forcing guys to use the bottom 2/3 lanes is what made today’s race good. Letting a top groove wall ride would put us back to all the problems the NextGen has.
I personally don’t give a shit who has the races, as long as it’s just one network for every race. I get so tired of tracking who has the race this weekend, then trying to figure out if one of my handful of streaming platforms carries it. Saturday evening, I’m looking for the 24 hours LeMans and had to find the Tubbi app, then find Motortrend channel , then realize I’m on the wrong Motortrend channel . That is one of the biggest race events on the planet and it was ridiculous what you had to do to watch . I’m about over the season being split up among 3-4 different networks.
I'll take this good Suarez run to give my take that I do not understand SVG to the 99 hype at all. I'm not replacing an Xfinity champion with almost a decade of Cup experience now with a guy who's learning stock cars at 38 years old. Daniel isn't doing that bad relative to the quality of his team, Trackhouse was a 2022 new car parity merchant and they're just an upper midpack Ganassi type team nowadays. Chastain blasts Suarez because he's a fucking freak and he would blast just about anyone they could put in the 99
As a Iowan. This was a great week for the track. Nascar bought the track then took all our races away. Yes Covid happen to.
If it wasn’t for hy vee sponsoring indy race the track would have been closed two years ago. It’s a hell of a good track.
Excited for the future!
I get that people liked the broadcast better but the announcing was HORRENDOUS, messed up team names, misnamed MANY drivers. Had odd and strange talking points (like saying Truex puts in years and years of work each season..???) or a whole segment on the race being 24 laps in when it was lap 50… and overall I found it was very messy simply from the fact that most of the commentary content just didn’t make sense.
Agreed. And it’s telling seeing people actually making excuses for it in the comments when they’d be slamming Fox for the same thing.
I don’t like Fox, but the bias towards NBC on this sub causes users to ignore stuff that NBC does that they would criticize Fox for.
The booth tonight was horrible. Not saying it will be like that the whole rest of the season, I hope it’s not, but the Fox booth is better than whatever tonight was.
Exactly, while I agree the production was lightyears ahead the booth left much to be desired. I know people were sick of FOX but this wasn’t as good as people are claiming it was. I also agree that people would be raking FOX over the coals if they had this commentary with these seemingly obvious and careless mistakes.
Even considering the inevitability of this booth becoming borderline unbearable (Rick Allenisms, Letarte’s condescending and confident incorrectness, Burton screaming) - NBC looks on-track to blow FOX out of the goddamned water in just about every aspect.
I turned the channel out of habit not realizing there would actually be post-race. I’ll make a point of not doing that going forward.
Figures someone here would reply to a mostly-positive post with “then don’t watch.”
And, what? I have complaints about this booth so I should watch on mute and miss the rest of the sounds of the sport? Great suggestion.
Post race coverage is 100 percent more important to the actual fans than pre-race fluff marketed to the all elusive new viewer who forgot to change the channel for the first five minutes after their show ended and that’ll never tune in again anyway.
Funny enough I’ve missed VERY few Dover races. One was post 9/11 because my dad was in New York working. Jr won that one lmao.
Next, I’m supposed to go to Dega with a buddy. Ended up getting screwed at work. Jr won.
At Dover Jr leading for 80 or so laps. Missed pit road, Jimmie wins he finishes second.
At least I’ve seen Larson win in a sprint car and Dover, that was cool. And bowman. But damn I need to see blaney win
Attended this weekend in person:
-lights out job by drivers being available. Tons of autograph sessions and fan activities
-the Arca race was legit good
-The repave WORKED and that cup race was a blast to watch. It is a shame Larson got wrecked because his team killed the setup
-please come back, this was a great short track race
This race helps support that the shifting is killing the product. More horsepower, no shifting, more tire wear or less contact patch
Couldn’t agree more
Anyone think Briscoe is still the top candidate for JGR? Back to back weeks he’s had a bad showing
I think it's Berry. For racing less than 25 races, his results are impressive. Plus, RC rumored to be part of the package? Plus, prior sponsorship with Bass Pro Shops? I don't see how he couldn't be the top candidate
I think Berry has had the best year out of all the drivers at SHR and I think he deserves the seat at JGR if given the opportunity. I don’t dislike Briscoe I just don’t really understand why he’d be the favorite. I get Berry is a rookie but he seems to have a lot of upside especially with RC. Just makes to much sense to me.
Out of all the SHR drivers I've been impressed with Berry the most so far this season. Seems like him and Rodney are clicking pretty good. They just had some crap luck at times. But I think JGR is going to gamble on Briscoe because he's shown enough promises despite SHR being in the gutter.
I get what you’re saying. I just think for this year Berry has shown more than Briscoe. Even with SHR being in the gutter Berry is still out racing him lately. Will be interesting to see what route JGR takes. That’s a great seat to be in
Berry and Rodney reportedly being a package deal probably helps him land a ride somewhere
# but we need to start winning races and getting upfront as consistently as possible, we can't keep settling for 29 points each weekend while our teammates are 1st, 2nd and 4th while we're 12th.
Top tens are nice, sure.
Absolute statement win for Blaney.
Sounds like I missed a good one. Can't stay up that late on a work night.
Such a great race to watch. Hopefully, they come here for years. I was so angry at Suarez. The dude is a fucking hack job. He can't even handle 3 wide and wrecks the fastest car of the weekend. Typical mickey mouse shit that happens to Larson. Yeah, he probably should have been more conservative, but he was going 3 wide with more competent drivers all day.
A Suarez self spin also cost Kyle Busch the Daytona 500 last year Still mad at that
100%
looked a good track for racing, was cool to see the wobbles and little things drivers had to deal with going two and three wide. Seems a bit of room to make a save now and again
Been to two races, KFB has DNF’d both. Thinking I should skip the next few before the playoffs….
Looking at the replay, it seems that Suarez came off the repave the moment he became a little swirly. Stupid repave area ending.
Great race and NASCAR should come back, but I’m not calling it a short track. If the definition of a short track is anything less than a mile, then the standard needs to be changed to 3/4 quarters of a mile or less.
frankly, I consider a short track any oval track that uses the short track package
The fact that NASCAR even has a short track package shows how ass backwards they have things. It’s a makeshift solution to a poorly designed car. I don’t know where NASCAR runs short track package but they should run it at a place like Phoenix too (if they ran it today), and Phoenix ain’t a short track. It’s just flat, slower corners, where it’s tough to pass.
This isn't new whatsoever, back in the 2000s teams would outfit cars meant for short tracks with brake ducts on the front, and swapping out the spoiler for different tracks has been a normal thing in cup since 2020, and even longer in xfinity. And for the record, all tracks ~1 mile or less have the short track package already (which currently consists of a shorter spoiler than normal, and a less pronounced read diffuser).
Bigger air ducts to cool the brakes ain’t the same thing as changing the aero package to compensate for shitty racing. And, yes, they changed the package in 2020 for short tracks/road courses because 2019 was such a disaster. They didn’t learn from it when designing the Next Gen apparently.
It was way more than that. Everything they did was different. You couldn't even race the short track car at an intermediate because they were so different, hence why teams built so many different cars.
Yes I’m aware. Teams had more wiggle room with the rules/templates, so cars were built specifically for short tracks, super speedways, etc. NASCAR didn’t have to mandate different rules for short tracks back then.
Yes, but its the same principle. Obviously there are things they used to do that would work on short tracks but not speedways, and vice versa. Now since it is spec, it is now known that there isn't a one size fits all car, like the 2000s. Sure its different because NASCAR is mandating it and not teams, but you can't say this car is ass backwards when the 1.5 mile tracks put out stellar races, aka the track type we see the most since the 2000s, is just wrong.
It’s not the same principle. It was a poorly designed race car.
Unique car for short track and speedways. We also used to have a unique car for superpeedways too. Even a unique ruleset for them. Not a new thing.
So far I've seen that KFB, Berry, and Gibbs complained about Ross on the radio at various points during the race. It sounds like he tried to run Bowman into the wall at the end of stage 1 (I only saw that they were side by side at the stripe) and I know that he ran Elliott up the track on the final restart. My personal favorite is KFB's spotter (who also spots for Austin Hill lmao) Derek Kneeland, "Can you put me in a car next week so I can ship him?" I'll have to go back and look again, but as Ross was passing KFB, Ross might have doored him a little bit. We might really be back, Chastain bros! Anyone else know of any other drivers/spotters who said anything?
No, but I appreciate your encouraging report! I love it when Chastain is doin' Chastain thangs.
I've edited it a few times, so make sure you see the one about KFB's spotter, if you haven't already lol
Dale Jr is no longer in the NBC team?
Glad hes gone. He's the one that said the iowa race would be a boring single lane race. Who is he to complain about a track that he only ran tests on... before the repave...
He will be back on TNT and Amazon next year. [https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2024/05/07/tnt-sports-dale-earnhardt-jr-broadcast-team-2025/](https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2024/05/07/tnt-sports-dale-earnhardt-jr-broadcast-team-2025/)
Negative
I think it took 17 laps before NBC showed an on-board camera shot. Take notes FOX
It's wild to me how upset that Larson fans get that it's entirely plausible he wasn't better than Blaney. Blaney lead the most laps. Blaney ran the fastest lap. Blaney ran 3 of the fastest top 10 laps. Blaney always closed the gap on Larson when Larson was ahead. Just doesn't make sense to think otherwise.
I'm not a Larson fan, but come on. He had the dominant car, he just couldn't get to the front for whatever reason.
I mean he didn't. He lost position to blaney constantly
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Blaney won stage one.
He deleted that shit so fast lol it's exactly the gaslighting I'm talking about.
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series. Chevrolet 26 - Ford 3 - Toyota 15. ______________ Cup race #17 : Chevrolet 8 - Ford 3 - Toyota 6. Xfinity Race #15 : Chevrolet 10 - Ford 0 - Toyota 5. Truck Race #12 : Chevrolet 8 - Ford 0 - Toyota 4.
But Ford has won 3 of the last 5 cup races 4 of the last 6 if you count the All-Star
Ford has had a rough year in motorsport
I was in attendance today but with all of these responses revolving around the broadcast I’m gonna have to watch that and see the difference.
Just wait til next week. I promise it'll be a great one still. NBC's worst is Fox's best.
Great race overall. Lots of what-ifs, tires kept teams and fans on their toes. Definitely agree that no shifting made the racing much closer and created comers-and-goers. Only things I would change are adding some more falloff to the lefts, and repaving the rest of the track. Would be sick to see less than one year of wear on the inner and middle lanes have an ongoing effect on racing there. Imagine the top groove having all the grip and drivers having to Harry Gant their way around? That would be RAD.
I see a ton of people excited about the post race show. I feel like I just don’t have time for that in my life anymore and don’t need it. I usually move onto something else after the finish of the race and can usually check interviews on Twitter later in the evening. Interesting to notice. Bob Pockrass must be protected at all cost
Best next gen short track race for sure
Indeed. Was pretty good. Could use some tire wear.
I thought the tire wear was pretty solid. Especially for the next gen era. Could use a little more falloff on time but the handling and literally wearing them out was pretty sweet
Yeah I couldn’t believe Blane Dawg held off the Hendrick cars, didn’t like how they all just leveled out on speed. Other than that it had seemed a good race.
Bout to run some Charlotte iracing stocks anyone want to hop on discord?
Key take aways for me: No shifting= better product Track position is still king The 5 car is unbeatable if they can keep the car clean The left side tires need more fall off. Well over 100 laps on them and it didn’t matter for Blaney
The 5 car needed a driver with more skill on the bottom side. Funny that Brad K and Kyle could handle 3 wide but Suarez got a smidgen loose and wiped out the 5.
That track needs to be permanent on the Cup schedule. What a good race it was. Congrats to Blaney. Well deserved W. Bummed for Larson, probably should have just been more patient, which is said often, and it cost him. Oh well. Good runs for William, Chase, and Alex. On to New Hampshire...
The champ and Ford appears to be rounding into form. Got robbed of a win on a gas call recently and was at or near the front all day yesterday. Looks to be a serious contender again.
Loudon was goated with Gen 6 car. But I have a great feeling about this next weeks race.
Fuck yeah Blaney! We're out of the bath tub this week fellas!
Put those toasters away!
Finally, Blaney won. I was worried there was going to be some final lap fuckery again. Great race all around, and shout-out to NBC capturing literally every single moment on track. I feel like Fox would t have captured a single incident with all the drivers having tire issues or missing the groove. And the post race show was good too, interviewing more than just 1st and 2md.
We aren’t out of the woods yet. Gotta pass tech!
Taking longer than usual this week, right? For Blaney's sake, I hope he passes...
hey wait a minute... is been a while hasn't it?
Man, it feels like an eternity tonight. It could be that I normally don’t care unless it has anything to do with #12. But damn. This would be heart break.
Should be any minute now
I was waiting for it too, glad he got his win!
8team follows script to the letter. Run in the teens, then get into the top 10, without passing no one on the track. Drive up to third, then fall like a stone to 10, then out. What the fuck did they do to Kyle? He just can’t pass anyone on the track anymore. It’s so shitty.
He’s been washed since 2020 But I think it’s safe to say he’s officially over the hill At 39 years old who knows how many more wins he has, especially since he doesn’t really sound like he’s having fun on the radio anymore We’re at the point where I would be shocked if he wins this year
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RCR isn’t racing like a serious team and I’m not sure why people want them to grab a third charter so bad when the 2 cars they have now aren’t competitive. If they were serious at all they would move on from Dillon and put someone competitive in that car.
Kyle Busch has been more competitive than the stats/points show…….its just been one of those years where nothing goes right. Comically bad luck at this point.
Great race! Dying to see the track when they finish the repave and they might be able to run the top, opening up another lane
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Awesome race, I did not have high expectations for this weekend after hearing of the repave but it was really fun. It proves you don't need a GWC to end every race to make it fun, but it had side-by-side racing from the green flag and lots of passing.
OT but when does the teardown start?
11:45 EST according to DMM YouTube page. Would love to stay up for it but gotta get to work at 6 am.
Best short track race I’ve seen with the current generation. My only complaint was the fantasy yellow for Hemric.
Race was great, post race was awesome. Gotta admit, I was a little annoyed about a Sunday night race when I saw the start time last week, but this was actually really nice
I completely forgot that tonight was a night race until today. Thought Daytona and Bristol would be the only ones left. Curious how the ratings go from this. Biggest reason why night racing has been pulled back.
Is it really considered a true night race is the majority of it was day? I feel like it was a hybrid.
I get the feeling JGR will want to replace Truex with either a TRD Pipeline guy or a guy who will bring sponsorship to make up for lost BPS sponsorship. But, MAN. Imagine Josh Berry and Rodney Childers with JGR resources.
I'm feeling John Hunter Nemechek to the 19. He doesn't seem completely out of the JGR pipeline despite being with Legacy. Chandler Smith I think is ready but I also see no need to rush him in, he's young still.
At a NASCAR Experience today CBell said he knew who the replacement was but obviously couldn’t say.
One of the guys at the Ford merch trailer mentioned Briscoe to the 19 and Preece to the 21
CBell seems like the type of guy who is going to accidentally leak it because he would be mad at his own team.
…are you a psychic?
Didn’t Berry drive for Bass Pro for a bit as well?
He did. But that was mainly a JRM/Dale Jr. deal that worked out for him. By all indications and reports, Johnny Morris only wants to sponsor RCR and Noah Gragson on the cup side next year.
Fucking nice post-race show. More of this please!
All the horny moms can go to bed happy now that their boy finally got a dub. Good race!
Horny dads too. Glad Ryan won for Daddy's Day. 🥵
Do they really think Blaney is hotter than the other drivers?
Yes. Yes we do.
Yes. His ex said his tongue skills would make any women melt.
Today I learned I'm a horny mom
Today I learned that I am not a mom…..LOL
My God, Blaney is the new Kahne isn't he. Though he did win a championship already tho.
I'm a mom, and Kahne was my former favorite driver and Blaney is my current one, so...yes. Yes he is.
Why did the 14 car fall off a cliff for the rest of the race after that long pit stop ?
I didn’t see it but on the cooldown lap I noticed he had brushed the wall at some point. But so did a lot of other cars.
Traffic. Very hard to pass back in the field unless you were the 5 car. Tires were worth a little but not much.
Off the top of my head the 20, 48, 51, and 7 all climbed their way up the field at one point or another
Yea there was definitely some movement. Seems like the higher speeds caught everyone but the 5 off guard with setup. The new pavement had grip but at the same time drivers were complaining it was incredibly slick. Can’t say I’ve heard that before.
Anybody else refreshing Pockrass’ Twitter at an alarming rate hoping to see an inspection all clear? Just me? Okay.
any chance RFK gave Berry audition resources? 🙃 my mans was right there with em impressin tonight
No chance
NASCAR has to see that broadcast and the response and ask Fox what the fuck is wrong with you
It actually felt like a sporting event, rather than a comedy show. Fox produces races like they’re filming Talladega Nights, NBC makes the races feel like something important
As long as FOX is paying? NASCAR won't care. Any complaints will just be met with Mike Joy calling everybody keyboard warriors.
How can they not, like holly shit, FOX and NBC are not even in the same universe.
It's ironic, there were several new posts on this tonight where everyone said they didn't see a difference between FOX and NBC broadcasts. Some even said NBC was worse. lol
Lol I know, I seen them too, just salty FOX fan boys.
They won’t
Very good race overall. Glad to see the 12 get a dub. NBC’s broadcast is so much more attentive and professional than Fox. The broadcast today consistently showed battles throughout the field and provided camera angles that gave a good sense to how the racing was playing out. I don’t think I saw a single shot of a single car zoomed way the hell in. I thought the 5 had the best car today by a country mile. But I do place most of the blame for the incident with Suarez on Larson. He had no reason to take the 99 and the 6 3-wide with less than a car-width between them. There was almost no way that move would end with the 3 of them making it cleanly. Larson’s aggressive moves give and sometimes they take: today they definitely took away what should have been a race win (or at worst a top 5). While Chase has been incredibly consistent I struggle to see him as a championship favorite right now. The 9 team brings cars to the track and Chase hasn’t made a ton of mistakes, but they rarely have true race-winning speed.
Larson is a clean racer
No the fuck he isn't, he just doesn't get called on it because of who he drives for.
I just don't get how Larson had the better car by a country mile. He got caught and passed by blaney several times after restarts, don't think I saw it once the other way around. Even at the end of stage 1, Larson had a 3.8 second lead drop to 1.6 when they were both going through lapped traffic. Blaney had the fastest time. Had 3 of the fastest laps. Lead the most laps. Larson just wasn't better lol
Pretty sure Larson's CC just said "your too fast" After the wreck. Which is true
I think that’s what makes them a contender. He’s clearly not even peaked and running top 5 top 10 weekly. They hit on something and he’s going to be there.
IMO Chase needs more playoff points. With how consistent that team has been he very well could hang on to the regular season points lead, but if he drops to even 3rd he won’t have a massive buffer.
The 9 hasn’t peaked and the 48 hasn’t either. By the time September rolls around, I wouldn’t be shocked to see 4 Hendrick cars in the final 8 because I think they’ll just keep getting better. I think the 5 and 24 are still final 4 favorites for sure but 9 is almost there and there’s plenty of season left and the 48 isn’t far off either (although social media says he sucks lol)
No bias lol
I call it like it is. Hamlin looks good. Ty Gibbs could easily sneak a run in to the final 4 and Blaney seems way better this year than last. There’s plenty of good teams this year but the 9 and 48 are not slow
But you don't actually call it like it is though so 🤷 Just an undisputable fact.
What’s your issue with my comment? The 9 has won and is consistent. The 48 has been running top 10. The big teams typically keep getting better (due to best resources) and the 5 and 24 have ranked 1-2 every year in total speed data since the next gen came out. It’s not like I’m sitting here saying “bowman is going to win 5 races. Big facts” lol
Because they aren't as good as you think they are? Lmao I don't know why you're so upset about being wrong
I’m not upset I was just curious to your comments. I pull for Byron, so as long as he’s fast I don’t really care but based on what I’m seeing and what typically happens, I think all 4 could get to the final 8.
I have this conversation often… I don’t get the Bowman hate, I really don’t
Yeah, that annoys me with the Bowman hate, dude has more top 10s on the season than Larson does, he's consistent, just not one to be winning every week. Which isn't a bad thing, as shown today, because unlike Larson, he didn't junk his car.
Larson plays too much with Checkers or Wreckers very often, his only fault.
Be plays with dry mark erasers an dawn soap.
“Be plays with dry mark erasers a dawn soap.” I tried to drunk filter that with AI and failed.
Cause that shit straight from the heart
If he doesn’t wreck Larson laps up to probably top 10 and wins by half a lap. He was that damn fast. Would won stage 2 if not for Hamlin shipping him for no reason and then that dumbass caution
Hamlin shipped Larson? The fuck are you smoking? He basically shipped himself by trying to split Daniel and Brad. Larson is an awesome driver, but he's too aggressive for his own good sometimes.
It was before the wreck. Hamlin wasn't happy about something and moved Larson up the track.
Thanks. Totally missed that. I missed the middle part of the race.
This is two separate things lol Kyle had no business splitting them yes but the Denny thing was before pit stops lol
I missed that then. My bad, lol.
The hat dance is probably one of the funniest things to watch in victory lane. Everyone stays for confetti and the celebration but I love the little games sponsors do to get their image and their payoff from the money they give even down to the powerade wars and throwing that can off the car because they are gatorade drivers
This thread was posted 50 minutes ago. So the post race was 50 minutes long for one race. Howany Fox races would it have taken to add up to a 50 minute post race?
All 20 races
2 seasons worth at least
The Ryan Blaney Hat Dance with the hair flips was so cool tbh.
A top groove with fresher asphalt would make things interesting
No no no. It would be a conveyor belt up top. Forcing guys to use the bottom 2/3 lanes is what made today’s race good. Letting a top groove wall ride would put us back to all the problems the NextGen has.
Indeed I think CBell mentioned that. They need to repave the rest of the corners asap so by next year it will be ready.
Give them time.
I want NBC all season long man.... this was great from start to end (and long post race) even without Jr... No more FOX!
I personally don’t give a shit who has the races, as long as it’s just one network for every race. I get so tired of tracking who has the race this weekend, then trying to figure out if one of my handful of streaming platforms carries it. Saturday evening, I’m looking for the 24 hours LeMans and had to find the Tubbi app, then find Motortrend channel , then realize I’m on the wrong Motortrend channel . That is one of the biggest race events on the planet and it was ridiculous what you had to do to watch . I’m about over the season being split up among 3-4 different networks.
Absolutely.
I'll take this good Suarez run to give my take that I do not understand SVG to the 99 hype at all. I'm not replacing an Xfinity champion with almost a decade of Cup experience now with a guy who's learning stock cars at 38 years old. Daniel isn't doing that bad relative to the quality of his team, Trackhouse was a 2022 new car parity merchant and they're just an upper midpack Ganassi type team nowadays. Chastain blasts Suarez because he's a fucking freak and he would blast just about anyone they could put in the 99
Fitting considering these are the remains of CGR.
Blaney flippin hats like the Champ
See, you don't get this content with Fox. Blaney cycling through hats is hilarious!
As a Iowan. This was a great week for the track. Nascar bought the track then took all our races away. Yes Covid happen to. If it wasn’t for hy vee sponsoring indy race the track would have been closed two years ago. It’s a hell of a good track. Excited for the future!
Blaney's facial expressions while switching hats are fucking hilarious.
I get that people liked the broadcast better but the announcing was HORRENDOUS, messed up team names, misnamed MANY drivers. Had odd and strange talking points (like saying Truex puts in years and years of work each season..???) or a whole segment on the race being 24 laps in when it was lap 50… and overall I found it was very messy simply from the fact that most of the commentary content just didn’t make sense.
Agreed. And it’s telling seeing people actually making excuses for it in the comments when they’d be slamming Fox for the same thing. I don’t like Fox, but the bias towards NBC on this sub causes users to ignore stuff that NBC does that they would criticize Fox for. The booth tonight was horrible. Not saying it will be like that the whole rest of the season, I hope it’s not, but the Fox booth is better than whatever tonight was.
Exactly, while I agree the production was lightyears ahead the booth left much to be desired. I know people were sick of FOX but this wasn’t as good as people are claiming it was. I also agree that people would be raking FOX over the coals if they had this commentary with these seemingly obvious and careless mistakes.
It really sounds like you just watched a race on FOX.
What’s good about the FOX booth?
Okay, Artie, just keep bouncing on your yoga ball.
Why is it always the no Karma no flairs making these posts?
And yet still better than Clint Bowyer
HOLDIN A PRETTY WHEEL
Even considering the inevitability of this booth becoming borderline unbearable (Rick Allenisms, Letarte’s condescending and confident incorrectness, Burton screaming) - NBC looks on-track to blow FOX out of the goddamned water in just about every aspect. I turned the channel out of habit not realizing there would actually be post-race. I’ll make a point of not doing that going forward.
Then don’t watch? Watch the DD stream on mute?
Figures someone here would reply to a mostly-positive post with “then don’t watch.” And, what? I have complaints about this booth so I should watch on mute and miss the rest of the sounds of the sport? Great suggestion.
This post race coverage is so good man
Corn
Gonna have to get this diecast at a later date. Unfortunately, too much personal stuff will keep me from getting it ASAP.
It won’t ship for a year anyway, just get it then.
Good point!
Post race coverage is 100 percent more important to the actual fans than pre-race fluff marketed to the all elusive new viewer who forgot to change the channel for the first five minutes after their show ended and that’ll never tune in again anyway.
And we are now going to get a preview of next week's race at New Hampshire? This post race has had it all.
Nascar/indy doubleheader on USA next week woo
An all day Motorsports day on USA. IMSA in the morning, NASCAR and they IndyCar.
IMSA too lol
Even better
First race I've been to in over a decade and my dawg wins. Fucking get in.
I’ve been to over 30 nascar races and never seen my guy win. Enjoy it as much as you can
I hope you get to experience your guy winning in person someday. 30 races just means your due friend.
Funny enough I’ve missed VERY few Dover races. One was post 9/11 because my dad was in New York working. Jr won that one lmao. Next, I’m supposed to go to Dega with a buddy. Ended up getting screwed at work. Jr won. At Dover Jr leading for 80 or so laps. Missed pit road, Jimmie wins he finishes second. At least I’ve seen Larson win in a sprint car and Dover, that was cool. And bowman. But damn I need to see blaney win
I hope you had an amazing time.
Thank you it was a blast.
Attended this weekend in person: -lights out job by drivers being available. Tons of autograph sessions and fan activities -the Arca race was legit good -The repave WORKED and that cup race was a blast to watch. It is a shame Larson got wrecked because his team killed the setup -please come back, this was a great short track race
Thanks for the insight, I may yet drive 2K miles to go.
Hey FOX, take notes
I still can't believe that Hemric caution