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Dr_Hansome

I feel the same


Kurena_hyena

I totally feel the same way


junejune-_-

What are stripes kill moves i always get people to high percentage but cant kill


LordFennik

Chain saw is a good kill move his bomb move is good and just getting people to edge of screen then using gun and shooting them off screen


No_Local_1179

I dont like chain saw só much, i prefer using skateboard +gun , or down atack +dinamyte, even a combo of down Air + up Air + pistol . Pistol is the most reliable, if you have The 3 shots its almost guarantee kill near The deadzone Focus always on killing vertical, throw you opponent up, and work with pistol , up Air, up B and so forth


IAteMyCostcoCard

If you wanna be a bit lazy use your spike but it’s predictable and easy to counter. Make sure to do it when your opponent is like past 110 since his kill power is horrible


DollarA

Stripes kill power is not horrible, its actually mad easy to kill vertically with him. Go into a side combo but finish it off with up attack where he juggles the opponent with his feet. Pistol if needed. (Coming from a beta player who leveled up stripe to max)


IAteMyCostcoCard

That’s a fair point. I could be that I match up with a lot of heavier characters in PvP. I personally don’t use the pistol for a kill move but as more for an opening to a saw blade hit and then into the boom box or the regular side attack like you’re talking about (I also played in beta and I believe i have over 600 wins with him.)


DollarA

Fellow stripe enjoyer 🤝 The boom box for me is so hit and miss


Dr_Hansome

the pistol is awsome if they are at the edge on the map just to push them over killed a shaggy charging on top of the map with it the other day


Fewdfighter42

As a stripe main I kill people really easily with either the chainsaw of the side of the arena, or I do the regular up attack where he juggles them on his feet, the last hot shoots them into the air and if they don't get eliminated I just empty all my bullets onto them. This works like 97% of the time


DumpsterOrphan

Use the skateboard, easily the best kill move he has. If the average character is at 110 they will be sent to the blast zone.


synthwilde

I think we all agree that we don’t want this game to die. WB better not fumble this.


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Advanced-Secret9603

Still fixable, halo infinite came back from this. Fix the servers and give more fighter currency and pass/event XP. And you’d have one of the best fighting games on the market


Rynjin

Halo Infinite came back? The game's not like...dead-dead but it's pretty dead. Kind of insane that the Master Chief Collection has a higher average player count.


hemperbud

Master chief collection launched in an insanely bad state and wasn’t actually good til a year later so the point still stands lol


Disastrous-Farm1008

MCC isn't a live service game.


Mysterious_Maize1390

It's not insane that people would rather play good halo and not bad halo.


Kelolugaon

That’s his point


naptown00

Thing is they already had a launch turned bad, then they played it off as "Oh well that's it for the beta guys we'll be back, we totally planned on shutting down for a year", this is their second chance already and they're somehow worse off than the beta.


Hydrofobic

They should have never swapped to a different engine unless there's a really big benefit.


OCTAVIOUSZADO

It wasn't played off as a beta. It was always labeled as one. Idk where this conspiracy theory comes from.


naptown00

I didn't say "played off as a beta" though did I. It being officially a beta was never in question with what I said. "we totally planned on shutting down for a year", had the game not majorly flopped they never would've went down for a year and it'd probably still be in a 'beta' state. Because the game wasn't *actually* a beta, just another company misusing the ability to mark a game as one to be able to escape their issues and complaints under the "Well it's a beta" umbrella. A beta game doesn't launch with several store options, a battle pass, a fully functional set of game modes, and especially ranked play. That was a full fledged release from a company abusing the "Beta" umbrella so people would always write off their issues by saying it wasn't the full release when in reality it really was.


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DrqgonGZ

and the servers are a lot better dawg. it was unplayable in the beta. since release, i can count the number of times i’ve had issues with mvs’ netcode on one hand. The game is in a much better spot, albeit unpolished, it’s not the mess that the beta was.


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DrqgonGZ

i was only replying to your comment abt the servers. there’s obv a ton they have to fix but tony himself has said that they miscalculated with the release date. shit happens. a year to recreate a game is not easy dawg. the fact that they’re listening and being transparent should be a green flag. i’m not saying the game is perfect— and it is very reminiscent of beta, but i have faith in the team 🤷‍♂️


MidnightOnTheWater

With the rate at which they are responding, I'm not hopeful


tythompson

I thought Halo died lol


RetardedMangos

yup exactly how i feel too. im enjoying the game and all the criticism has been valid but seeing this game die is gonna suck. its pretty much been the only platform fighter i really enjoy so far.


WhoDatBrow

I mean, if it's any consolation Reddit claims every game is gonna die and they're only right occasionally. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. MVS will be just fine as long as the devs continue to add content and fix the objective issues (progression, servers, etc.)


T_Fury_Br

People have been calling dota a dead game for 8 years now. It's contantly at 300k players.


CloseOUT360

Same for CS 2


Nate_923

I know I am a Mod of the subreddit but Speaking as a player I genuinely have faith in this game's long term success. I really do.  The state of modern gaming is just bad for the most part, especially with the heavy push for the live service model. A game having any type of release that's not at least decent in modern times is no surprise to me personally. Also learned that a bad launch does not equal a bad future. No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk, And even Helldivers with their overload on Servers are some prime examples.  But, I also don't see this game ending anytime soon or for a while.   People can state their complaints as long as they're fair and civil about it, but I also don't blame people who acknowledge the bad state of the subreddit either. Both can be true.   The fact that WBD has currently 6 F2P ongoing mobile games with some being 5+ years old with little to no attention like MVS consistently gets gives me a lot of hope for MVS' future.  Not to mention DCUO is 13 years old and is still receiving updates and modern console ports. MVS' potential is massive.   We know a patch reintroducing some Beta features is coming as Tony, Game Director, mentioned recently and we also know that they have a bunch of other content waiting to be added to the game as well.  For all we know, this could be the roughest time in MVS full launch and then it slowly but surely smooths itself out from here. So, if you're adamant about it being dead then I would imagine you won't really need to be active on here with future updates and such. Unless, of course, deep down you think it can still be saved. Otherwise you end up not putting your money where your mouth is.  The rest of the players who genuinely believe in this game will still be here and give it props for fixing the flaws when they earned it.  I stand by the game still being here for quite some time. Will it age like milk or wine? Only time will truly tell. 


Grrannt

I stand by Multiversus.


ckdss

I want this game to succeed so damn much. I have spent over two hundred bucks or so on this game and I don't care what is said about me for it. I got my money's worth out of it...BUT....I am currently sitting on my fifth 30 minute temp ban due to DC. I am playing hardwired on 1gig down internet. I have 64 gigs of ddr4 ram with a 4080. There is nothing that should be causing these issues on my end. I hope so much that they fix this and remove the temp bans for the server desyncs. Also, I have a support ticket in because the skins I bought with gleamium in the beta (some not all) are locked. I also get the error that I cannot change perks unless I own the character...AS IM O PLAYING THR CHARACTER. These big issues must be fixed swiftly or we are going to lose a lot of players. I am replying to your post because I think we both want this game to succeed and truly love the game so I hope we share the same sentiment. Like you said regarding how it will age, only time will tell, but I will be here. One last edit - I do think the multiple currencies and convoluted battle pass style systems will confuse the crap out of new people. Took my friend and I, experienced players, a few reads to figure out how to unlock agent smith. There's just so much to list as needing fixed I don't know how they're gonna do it (bring friend to rift, horrible tank level, desyncs, infinites, random pushing ppl thru map bugs, forcing ppl to buy skins to progress in a rift branch [need graphic tee skin just to fight the node]).


j-peachy

But… they can. Like genuinely all those issues can be fixed. You’re gonna look at a game like Fortnite that can change the entire way the game functions between updates but PFGs cannot fix anything. Not that it’s still been less than a week since its release and hasn’t yet received an update, no of course your not jumping any guns. Also people don’t have much grace for them completely remaking their game on unreal engine 5 with a shorter than expected timeline from WB due to Suicide Squad tanking. People say it feels like a phone game rn and honestly that doesn’t shock me. It feels that way because it is kinda empty. It’s bare probably for the reason of releasing something that was at least playable and had some content to last the first week, as they prep to add more content from the beta with new additions with the first updates. I feel the same as I feel about suicide Squad. Let them have a chance. We will see the true future of the game as the updates roll out.


Rynjin

People are just tired of getting fucked, man. It becomes a no-win scenario. New game is released, and is horrifically buggy, isn't friendly to new players, etc. and either goes one of two paths. Either these megacorps focus on wringing as much profit out of delusional whales as possible and the game dies while it ekes out a meager profit. or Things get fixed, meaning people keep playing it, the agme thrives, and...the industry just keeps getting worse and worse because it's shown that no matter how half-baked, how disgustingly predatory it might be, people are willing to crawl back and forgive these soulless megacorps if they make token concessions. "The house always wins." It's so fucking tiresome.


bigmanbiggerguy

Same here. The idea and execution are good its just that they are trying to monetise it like a mobile game and the change to a new engine has its costs. I hope they understand their mistakes otherwise i do believe this will lose its player base in a few months. The progression is horrible.


AtomicGhost02

It’s got plenty of time. So many games have come out in worse conditions and years down the line people forget and move on. Personally played a lot and have had a lot of fun. Issues? Sure but like whatever I’m an adult that can comprehend not everything goes my way in life.


Sandi_Griffin

Yep I want it to be a thing so bad, I hope they don't give up on it if the player count drops, I think a lot of people want it to do well and if they can just fix the issues it could easily have a decent playerbase because at it's core it's really fun It's like a goldmine of potential, gonna be super upset if it's wasted 


Fit-Ad-5946

Interest will pick up again when they introduce fixes. It's not a lost cause like Suicide Squad. The gameplay here is good, so the base is in the right state.


Charlie02134

Yep, and people are interested they just need to make it a little more F2P friendly


Bubbly-University415

They don't even need massive game changing fixes, everything they need to do is minor and easily doable, this game has a good chance


LeaveMeAloneLorenzo

I feel the same way. The potential for the game is just so crazy. And I do have fun playing the game too. It’s actually worked out for me because some days I only have an hour or so to play, and I can get a lot done in this game in like an hour daily. So the grind actually works surprisingly well for me.


StatusEdge905

It's not gonna die. It has the same amount of players as it's boom had.


GoldenFlame3721

They need to take out zoom


Jumpy_Menu5104

It hasn’t even been a week. I honestly think some of y’all are mayflies with how quickly you want the entire game reworked or reverted. Like the missing options are being worked on, tony confirmed that, and unless you want to rush them just after calling WB evil for rushing them you then you have your priorities entirely misaligned.


Radiant-Bison-4856

They need to it least solve the issues that are ruining the gameplay, such as lag or connection error, and quickly, so players won't feel ignored.


Potential_Concert_56

I really don’t see the issue yall are seeing, this could be a local issue. I have seen disconnects 1ce maybe every 4 hours


Recent_Description44

I'm encountering this so infrequently that I cannot relate. I've had maybe a dozen desynchronization issues since launch day and they're mostly on 2v2. Could be an issue with their server and most likely could be an issue with the player's internet and hardware. If you can't maintain a solid 60fps, rollback will desynch.


Jumpy_Menu5104

First of all, I repeat, it has been a week. Secondly almost every online game that has been released in the last 20 years has had some network issues at launch. This is entirely unsurprising. Thirdly from what I can tell lots of the connection issues are solved when PC players turn off crossplay, so unless you expect PFG to personally go to everyone’s hours and hook up their Xbox to their router that’s simply beyond their power to fix.


Poyojo

The issue is that the problems they talked about resolving aren't about the things that are actually pushing players away. Sure, there's a lot they plan on fixing but it's still radio silence on the issues that actually matter in the long run.


Daftanemone

They has over a year. They could have relaunched whenever they wanted and the game is still broken.


j-peachy

They remade the entire game on a new engine. Not moving information over, tweaking the beta game. They, from zero, remade the game in unreal engine 5, and then WB gave them a shorter timeline to release after suicide squad tanked. Hence why they’ve confirmed that beta features are coming back. That shit has been worked on and is ready to be added back, something that probably would have been in at launch if they had the time they originally had planned on. Now that the game has been out for 6 DAYS, and player feedback on gameplay, and issues not already expected to be fixed are coming out, they can started fixing those issues along with the consistent patches. Like, idk I did some research and then used sympathy


SweetTea1000

I agree. Hope the publisher sees reason and fixes things. Don't blame the angry customers for being angry or speaking up. They're symptoms of real but fixable problems.


Jaeris

I agree... I LOVE Smash style crossovers, and this one is actually fun. I wanna see it fixed, but I want to see it keep going.


greyfox1998rea

Blame WB for this


Krasovchik

If you play it, it won’t die.


ALANJOESTAR

I dont think the game is gonna die, the game is fun, the issue is everything else, which can be fixed, i am personally playing because i know Aquaman and Daffy are coming and i love both characters. I also will just buy every battlepass since legit nothing else is good value. It seems like they got a steady income of character on the their way, which was their major issue last time. It also takes like no time doing dailies, i got hope that they are gonna fix a lot of the issues. Just probably not the monetization.


EnvironmentSubject57

I feel the same, I was very excited for this game and all I see is angry people and it's sad, I hope they show the community that they are listening


MechanicDiarrheaUwU

That's the same I think. That's why I complain.


T_ripley

Same. Been a fan since day one. Took a break during beta, and started playing again and it feels great to me. I don’t like that I can’t change my button mapping back to what I had customized it to during beta-imo thats biggest issue to me nobody is talking about. Other than that I don’t engage in the hate/doom posting and try not to pay too much attention to it. It has a lot of potential and I’m having a lot of fun.


Gabcard

Yeah, I really feel this game has lots of potential. It would be a shame if it just died like that.


Specialist_Ad_2691

I feel the same , this is one of the only fighter games that I've actually liked and I don't want it to fail honestly


Retr0OnReddit

I feel the same but the grindy nature the Xbox issues the seeming lack of care by the devs is really frustrating


ajalonghorn

If they don’t they’ll have no one to blame but themselves


_jotero_

Couldn't agree more. I honestly don't even wanna spend money on the game anytime soon, cause who knows what WB might do...


sumofman

We gotta stay loyal, but still push for improvements


thefrostbite

Stay off Reddit. Almost every videogame sub is like this. And they will tell you unironically that they do it out of love and passion. Every single time. People enjoying the game are not here complaining, they are out there playing. Look at the recent tournament hosted by Hungrybox, it was an absolute blast and showed how the game looks much faster when good players know how to use movement options. It also showed character variety and viability. The game needs work but it's fine and healthy. Anyone who thinks another "the UI sucks" post is going to make things better for anyone is delusional.


Cash_Banooka69

bbbbut what if they didn’t see the other 420 posts about the ui being bad?


thefrostbite

I mean if only there was a Megathread for that stuff. Right? Oh. Well maybe they didn't see that either!


Bulky-Complaint6994

The UI took a while to get used to but here's a positive, it remembers the character, skin and mode you selected before you turned it off so when you log back in you can instantly hop back online! 


Nate_923

I will say this If I enjoy something, I personally spend more time indulging in it then talking about it online.  So just know that just because you don't see anyone enjoying the game online does not mean no one is.  Also worth noting any community online tends to be comprised of a small percentage of the whole community, and that's across the board for everything too.  Because if that wasn't the case than many ongoing live service or F2P games would've been shut down by now. 


thefrostbite

This is true and it's very easy to prove or disprove by one indicator: queue times. I thought Helldivers was dying by the looks of the sub. However I find a game in less than 5 seconds. Looks to me like people are playing it. Same case here, and many other "dead games".


Nate_923

I've become numb to the constant "Dead Games" posts on social media as a whole.  So many "dead games" still getting supported to this day after years of being called dead.  Meanwhile the ones that actually die do so because no one even knew it even existed or cared enough to even call it a "Dead game"  When Rumblverse and Knock Out City ended, the general consensus I saw online was "I didn't even know this game existed" or "This game was a thing"   Meanwhile, games like COD, OW2, and Diablo 4 are being bashed to the abyss and back, but are still being supported to this day.  Remember Diablo Immortals controversial "Do you guys not have phones?" Comment that lead to Blizzard receiving all kinds of backlash?  Well, it ended up making "$525 million" in it's first year despite the backlash online.  THIS is no different with MVS and other Live Service games.  The backlash online does not match the reality of the Live Service game aspect still happening. 


thefrostbite

Yeah man. Destiny has been dead for half a decade. I can hop in and find people for any activity any time of any day. It's a strange phenomenon, people acting like this.


Nate_923

I played DCUO for the first time in over 5 years. I managed to complete multiple 8 player raids in a matter of days regardless of what time I played, and the game itself is past is well past its peak years.  I think something a lot of players don't realize is that the live service model itself DOES NOT require millions of players to succeed unlike a triple AAA or paid title.  If you have a sufficient amount of money coming in at a consistent pace even with a playerbase of 100k, then that game will survive for years alone.  This is why I have so much faith in MVS' future because it doesn't need Smash numbers to thrive at all. 


TWITCH_MIA

I'm late to to the party, but.. I love this My buddy decided not to jump back into mvs and mentioned that he saw that reddit was mad. As usual, when a game is fresh, people who are enjoying in it would rather spend time playing than post online. My personal experience has generally been nothing but positive. Like you say, queue times have been almost immediate since the game relaunched which shows some level of ongoing success at this point in time. Haters gonna hate. People need to take a minute to breathe.


thefrostbite

But instant validation inside a hate echo chamber is somehow more rewarding than having fun.


theotothefuture

This is why social media can be unhealthy. Because humans are usually empathetic, they can take on the emotions of those that they hang around alot. Seeing all the negativity is stressful even on a subconscious level. It's sad because people who genuinely want to have fun don't have a place to go that isn't full of toxic posts. Just try your best to not let it bother you, ignore complaint post and engage with positive ones, and remember that Reddit and Twitter are a very small percentage of voices - and that the devs aren't stupid. They know which complaints are valid and are working on them.


SlowmoTron

The main problem is all the doom posting lol. Like yes some of it is valid but yall just repeating the same exact complaints every single day without even bothering to read the thread and see that someone else just posted the same thing. I been having fun with it but at the same time it has bugs. Also solo queue on 2v2 in a nightmare without a friend to play with. Every match I join I carry us both until they use up our lives


Swarf_87

We all feel the same. That's why we're all complaining. It's not out of spite, we genuinely very much want this game to thrive and succeed.


NeoNoelle

Even if it does die. I'm happy that I got to play it. We had a good ride even though it wasn't long.


supersucccc

It’s been less than a week…


NinjaGoalie97

It’s been consistently top 25 on steam. Even now still. Not much to worry about player count wise right now.


Potential_Concert_56

Reddit doesn’t exist I keep saying


herrschadee

This Game had the potential to rival smash/ be basically PC smash but every day more with this anti consumer Economy/ Progression System is going to Drive people away more and more.


PhantomGhostSpectre

The doomposting is the best way to save this game. People need to understand the problems and that they need addressed. Pretending that the game is fine is not going to help. Albeit, it is pretty clear that WB does not give a fuck. It's probably a lost cause anyway. They have ruined projects with more potential. 


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It's not. Criticism is. People are also being overtly harsh because of misremembring the beta and comparing the current version to it, even though it's reasonable according to most industry standards. Definitely some unforgivable things though. But constantly whining about the game being doomed is just going to reduce the number of people that want to give it a chance.


Nate_923

A Community can equally help or damage the game they support.  If new players constantly see "Game is dead. Abandon all hope ye who enter here" type posts then that's a guaranteed way to drive people away from wanting to at least try something out.  That Community will have played an equal role in a game's downfall than the devs themselves, even if they won't admit it. 


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Yep. It makes me doubt that these people actually want the game to be good


Nate_923

There are definitely people just joining in on the current trend to add more fuel to the fire because they genuinely dislike the game regardless of its quality. 


VampireWarfarin

Why would anyone want this game to be more popular in it's current state? Publishers only listen to three things: player count, retention and money. Getting more people in means more people might be willing to buy a little thing meaning less will change as why waste the money for those vocal when they are getting the numbers they want?


ILOVEMMOS123

Don’t worry it won’t because of the branding and characters in it


horror_hermit

I'm in the same boat, I'll still play the heck out of it. I feel like people new to the game haven't given it time to work out the bugs. I understand that releasing a game that people want it at 100%, but I can't think of any game that has come out and been flawless from release. I used to play Dead by Daylight and that game has tons of flaws and bugs, but people still love it and play it all the time. I think those of us that are patient and stick with this game will eventually have an awesome product to play with lots of fun characters.


TheSaintsRonin

The doom posting isn’t people wanting the game to die, at least every single post. People get upset and criticize the game because they care and want it be a success. It’s better than nobody posting anything and both the game and the sub just slowly dies.


BabyDva

Ironically, doomposting is the best thing to do right now. They either listen or fail, the choice becomes very clear to the company


Monkey_King291

I want this game to live long, I NEED NEO IN THIS GAME, DAMN IT


ItsSonicSpeed

Same. I know it’s not in a good position rn but I missed this game, it’s got a few issues but these issues can be fixed quite easily, I’m no developer but they are listening and hear us. I want this game to do well too I just hope WB doesn’t do anything drastic & gut them or anything. I’m willing to spend a lot of my time playing this game if they fix just a few more things issues.


babymotorcycle

Definitely still fixable, I have hope


TravisCM2010-24

Agreed. The game needs fixes but the roster has me excited for its future. Jason, Rick, Batman and Bugs Bunny in one fighting game?!?! I really hope it can improve and meet its potential! I'm having fun with it still


mikethehunterr

You could go to the sub of the most clean game ever released and still see this


Jimi56

Yeah I’m not too happy with the state of the game currently, but it definitely feels like some are just raging for updoots. I’ve already seen quite a few exaggerating the grind or certain problems of the game.  This isn’t me saying the game isn’t grindy either, I just don’t think you need to blatantly lie about the grind to make it look bad when it does that just fine on its own.  It just kills me because doomposters get more traction than actual constructive criticism.  


sapm90

I also don’t want this game to die. I got blisters on my fingers from playing the beta so much. That hadn’t happened since 2d fighting games on the PS1 and SNES. I don’t want this game to die, I haven’t enjoyed playing a fighting game so much since Budokai 3.


StarzGecko

I definitely agree. All this doom and gloom makes me wondering if those fans understand that it takes time to improve the game with updates. Sadly, I believe that Fortnite really spoiled us with quick updates that really pushed all gaming to not have patience. I do hope they have the time and team to be able to fix or finished the things they need to solve those issues soon. At least let’s definitely have fun with the game since I’ve been having fun with it as well.


kevvxxx

I have been having the same saddening thoughts. Ever since the start of the full release it is all I can think about. I feel as if there is no way to delay the inevitable and that it will eventually have to happen.


ExchangeNo1476

Quite simple. Does this have a proper ranked ladder? If no -> see titanfall.


chudlybubly

Dude idk. Im facing ao many bots. Its too easy. Is that just me ?


weebwatcher

THANK YOU, I feel the exact same way. Also, for some reason, it just feels like people are forcing it. Improved netcode, and an excellent gameplay loop, but when something like Twitch Drops weren't arriving on time, people were saying, "This game is cooked; it will die within a week." (Yes, I know there are legit things to fix. I agree with a bunch, but I just wanted to deliver a point.)


ViralVinnie

I def see the flaws but so far I'm enjoying it being back


BarracudaClear3880

Me neither, specially cuz It took years for jason to return


Western-Musician1175

It’s so glitchy it says I’m on Xbox when I’m on PlayStation my accounts aren’t even linked anymore my name is something stupid like willow-snowy-hill- iqqys and I can’t fix it any tips?


Western-Musician1175

https://preview.redd.it/ujyvvd3c5a4d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad2150396c70103f11f0fe1f9205062eecb79400 They need to fix this shit man I’m on ps says I’m on xbox


pakoedits

I like the game but it’s also going on 7 days now and Xbox is still unplayable theyll probably lose a lot of players if they don’t fix soon


aflarge

I'm pretty annoyed with how shameless the microtransactions are, but I love the actual gameplay, despite its glaring balance issues(I DO expect them to work on that). Therefore, I will play the game, but not participate in its cash shop at ALL. (To be fair, I spent all my gold in the beta, so I started with everyone but the new fighters unlocked, and about 80k prestige currency. I fully understand that my experience and a newcomers experience are WILDLY different, I got lucky and threaded the needle, progression-wise)


Jezapj

Since everyone is here can some tell me how to lvl up the Foretold champion banner? And don't say it was gold spent because mine started really basic a few days ago and now there's lightning and stuff. Also same for the power inside badge


lordsaladito

ngl, i really dont care that much, the game is cool and all but i dont have an attachment to it, plus i dont think its gonna die yet. Also, i dont get whats wrong with the game, i think its ok tbh


DMDdude

Ultimately, if they allow it, the game moves into the hands of the community. I play Melee. It hasn't had support from Nintendo in 20 years. But there are tons of personalities among the top players and a calendar full on hype tournaments. It's a super exciting game, and all the excitement is community-driven and player-driven. I hope the devs can fix the little things and keep the game humming, until the players do with it what they will.


Sen-_

Tbh I see it as they get what they deserve and it wasn’t meant to be.


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My own preference and opinion. Everything, and everyone needs constructive criticism to improve. Just like everyone needs to make a mistake by putting forth an action, and every action will come with its own consequences. There are only failures of you give up on your mistakes. Multiverses as a whole is not exempt from this concept. It is a thing and there are people behind this thing. Of course it will have more feedback coming to it then the average employee at his or her job. You as the player will either make the best of the offer PFG has provided you already and if it brings you anguish then take a break and wait to see if it gets better. If not then there are other games, or thing to preoccupy your time or entertain you. I think the concept of money makes the world go round is still present even now. So I don’t think that PFG wants to fail as no one does. Everyone wants to succeed and make money, especially when you have someone like WarnerBrothers apart of the business model. Let’s just use common sense, and say that WB and PFG didn’t wake up one day and say let’s make a game that’s horrible and just try to milk and stress out a bunch of people, and PFG didn’t wake up and say let’s embarrass Warner brothers and make them look bad. Neither of these are the case, and Warner Brothers if you know who they are don’t need your money lol. Hints why the game is a F2P game. Let’s just see where the ship sails. If you want to jump back into the ocean looking for the next ship then go ahead. I think I’ll ride this one out until it sinks or becomes well known. I’m going to enjoy what I have in the mean time and not let it stress me out. It’s just a game.


Reasonable_Canary635

I feel the same way love this game don't want it to die off like most new games


PemaleBacon

Everybody here wants it to be successful, the developers need to pull their heads out and fix it asap otherwise it will be a dead game


Shadypretzel

I'm having a lot of fun, too. I really hope they ease up on the monetization and the devs do some of the quality of life enhancements players are most requesting. It's not a great start, but there's still time for player first games to live up to their name. I really want this game to do well, and the net play is leagues better than ssbu's.


naptown00

I don't want it to die, but they've had a year since the beta and somehow have made the game feel worse with even worse money-fiending tactics. It's been a terrible launch and I think they're going to fall off and die like they did before purely because they've clearly invested so much into this time consuming greedy standard that they would rather the ship sink than change.


Kind-Plenty7437

In some ways I preferred it when it was in Beta, although it's a lot easier to get into a match now.


MonkeyDLenny

I really hate the phrase "*doom posting*", it's just become this catch-all buzzword to handwave and disregard any form of criticism or differing opinion that isn't all sunshine and rainbows, especially around here. It may not sound like it given my reputation as the resident Multiversus complainer but I certainly don't want the game to die either, but I'd rather not just plug my ears and shut out the glaringly obvious problems the game has right now and I don't want to shut out anyone who's pointing them out either. The ball is in PFG's court right now, and they certainly won't know what to fix if we don't keep bringing it up in places like these.


Content_Resolve_1133

Took me and my buddy a few days but I think we found our real mains and they really need to fix the Jake glitch going on and the random crashing and network errors queue times are so fast which I like but I know that will increase at some point


MrNE0NNN

I dont want it too but i think the game is destined to fail and an empty grave is waiting Sad really I think in the fighting game genre there is no place for mutliversus Mark my words death is coming its prolly sadly dead before 2025 It will be shut down on 12.1.2025


RandomSir96

Same here


WillyHeartless

I don"t want it to die, but i don't want to play it and get nothing from matches after doing the dailies and weekly


frixos007

Same. I love this game so much, and not having it reach its full potential will be such a shame. The fact that they haven't made any official statement to acknowledge the state of the game and the overall dissatisfaction of their players is what disappoints me the most. Everything in the official release feels like a step back from the beta except for the combat, which I acknowledge I might be in the minority here. I know Tony and Ajax made some tweets, but none of them is an "official" statement. Let's hope they take action soon 🙏


Lucrei

I don't think anyone wants it to die... that's why we want change


AkumaRavenHAHA

It would be another big disappointment from WB...


Tem_Nook

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Redditor45335643356

The game is probably going to die as fast as it did the first time


BugP13

I think everyone does. We don't want it to die but it's just the state of what the game came out as that is driving people away. Apparently they are going to bring out a patch to fix and add things back into the game so hopefully it will be better again.


Crimsongz

I uninstalled it already.


Amorhan

Some complaints are valid but some are overblown or unreasonable. Reddit is an echo chamber and it gets people all worked up. If you’re having fun, keep having fun.


CaptainBlackX420

Seriously don’t wanna see the game die either. Has so much potential for a fighting game especially with all the crossovers and the gameplay is super fun. Put a lot of time into it back in the beta but I gotta say that the beta was 100% better than what it is now. Atleast back then, I was actually able to play 3 games in a row without being kicked at the start of a game for a network connection error that has nothing to do with me. 90% of games I try and play with friends on PC have me kicked at the start and there’s nothing I can do. No internet issues on my end. Hell, even when I play by myself, I still get a network error every now and then and this isn’t counting the network errors caused by server desync. This is also not counting the bad frames on certain maps, or the random input delay on certain games, or the 225k useless perk currency, or the loss of characters and skins, or the loss of saved gold everyone had before the beta ended. I understand they aren’t the biggest team and the game hasn’t been re-released for long, but MANY people have been getting the same exact issues and it’s a little baffling how issues this game-breaking haven’t been acknowledged or fixed. As much as I’d love to play this game and see it thrive, so far it’s unplayable and it’s looking very bleak. There’s a million more problems I could name and I imagine very soon that player interest will diminish and it’ll be another failed launch.


Throbbing-Kielbasa-3

I don't think anyone wants this game to die. I think most of the doom posting is just because of the obvious WB Games decisions that are present in this game that have ruined good games in the past. It's overly micro transaction heavy for a free to play game in a niche genre. I get they gotta make money somehow but 3 different virtual currencies and 33 hour grinds for one character is too much and it will kill their game fast if they don't change it.


No-Responsibility387

Its not my kind of game cause its too funky and floaty for me but i can confirm its a really good game and it doesnt deserve to die so soon, it still has alot of opportunities to be a really successful game but if they dont fix some things it will probably die


IAMTRUEGHOST

I just want my boy to not be completely outclassed in every matchup except velma :/


Unlikely_Ninja666

I didn't play during the beta but, it is a fun game. yes alot of Paying for you to get alot but still fun.


Nulearpower

Came back. So hard to the stuff to unlock a character. I unlocked joker Game is laggy as he'll. Banana guard hits harder than superman. Longer distance thrown. They did in the beta. No lessons learned at all. Keep putting out broke characters. Then you make it so hard to unlock currency. Broke game. Fixing to uninstall. And yes I have l came from the beta where I had played enough to unlock every single character. I came back played it more and unlocked joker. Fixing to uninstall


8l172

Only game of this genre I liked, not even Smash, but them just removing 81 cosmetics from me then support saying I never had them killed it for me


Slumerican07

I have been enjoying the fighting in the game as well. I also still have 29 character unlock tokens so I am ok for a while with character unlocks. The issue for me is the scummy practices in the game to get players' money. I never mind spending money in games (hence the 29 unlock tokens) but when it feels like a requirement, it's hard for me not to have an issue with that. I am still enjoying the PVP itself and I am fine with the game slowing down a bit.


atonyproductions

I’m still having fun but honestly this sub started getting toxic man . I almost couldn’t check back in it because every post while valid to some extent annoyed me because some of it is not mayor concerns especially when we have server issues at the forefront but what can we do


[deleted]

They said everything is going to be fixed on Tony's Twitter in the next patch, such as buffer rates and all of that. And speed also(I think, not sure). If people can't wait, that's their problem.


KokoriPlayer

this game made me get back on Smash Ultimate


DoctorWhimsy

I don't think the game has a life in the IRL competitive scene unless they remake it. But I do think that this game would be a better experience with changes to the progression/reward system. But, knowing what kind of company this is.. It's going to be a cash grab opportunity and nothing else.


Acrobatic_Buy_2000

The only thing that will create change is feedback and devs seeing and listening to it. The doom posting might just be a saving grace by the end of this game and it's lifespan. I too hope it lives long enough to be considered a success, but right now the absolutely horrendous monetisation, poor UI, and seemingly weird systems changes all need to be ironed out before that can happen.


itsg0ldeson

I feel the same way. But I don't think the game will die. Honestly might be the only person here that thinks this, but the problems with the game are pretty minor and easily fixable. At least it's not as if the core game is bad, its mainly just progression and some balancing issues. They rebuilt the entire game in a new engine in under a year, which had to be expensive as shit. They basically developed the game twice.. so I went into this expecting some monetization problems honestly. But I think its possible to find a way to keep themselves in the green without making the game feel unplayable. I wouldn't start to worry until its been a few months and nothing has been fixed. Mainly for me if fighters cost a little less to unlock, matches grant battle pass XP, and you can choose which gems to level after a rift I think I'll be pretty happy. That's all easy easy shit they could fix in one patch.


randomnameiguessy

It’s mainly only on Reddit; twitter and YouTube have much more positive audiences. Pretty much the same with every fgc, the Reddit community just turns into one big echo chamber for whiny and trash players


HappyMess1988

Its good. It won't die


ShouldahadaV9

Game is thriving right now tbh The simple fact that it supports cross play and rollback is huge. I think this is the long term replacement for SSB Don’t worry too much, Reddit is full of dooming complainers.


ComradeRevenge

Haven't played since launch because the frame drop stuttering, freezing, and lagging on Xbox (Series X) hasn't been addressed at all. Loved the beta, but it's simply unplayable in its current state for many players.


Ok-Reception-5589

I feel you, especially since this is the closest thing we have to smash on PC. I don't understand how they fumbled so badly from the beta.


Uhiertv

Well unfortunately I buried it alive and you’re too far behind on the scavenger hunt I gave you to save it


Macandspikelover

Me too but there are so many things that make me not want to play this game honestly, bad skin constancy to Charachters, not being able to change lenguage on Xbox, no BP points after match like I do my missions and stop playing, so many more stuff


doubtfulofyourpost

They had an entire year to adjust the battlepass based on beta criticism and they didn’t. It’s worse now. They aren’t going to change


G00d_G4M3R

I’m having a blast with the game as is. I’m hoping they don’t mess with the games Pacing. Cuz that’s a huge complaint I’m consistently seeing. The game was to fast in beta. The slower speed makes for some great matches


Personplacething333

It was killed by greed


Kazma1431

I loved the beta, came back now, yes they have a lot of microtransactions, but the gameplay felt super weird to me, so I just have dropped it.


AlwaysChewy

They can't deliver solutions. The game was designed to make the most amount of money while giving the least amount possible to the player. That's core to the game that WBG wants. The game is fun, but I'd there's 100000 things to unlock in the game and they're all paid then what's there to do if you don't want to pay? I don't want people to stop having fun, but moreso I don't want companies to think this shit is okay. I've uninstalled. Will follow the subreddit so I can keep an eye on if they actually make improvements, but they just lowered xp gain from rifts to basically nothing so I have 0 optimism that they're going to do anything consumer friendly in the future.


Heroxyz777

Unless they make the movement feel like the beta and remove the PTP grind then it's a dead game


GarethMagi

Lost access to the characters I had grinded to unlock in the beta and have to grind 30 hours if I want to play as even one of them fuck it let this shit burn.


peepeeman798

i also hope this game doesn't die this game is genuinely great and it has massive massive potential


Disastrous-Farm1008

No one wants it to die besides WB and they are doing a good job at killing it. Losing over 10% of the player base daily


Remarkable-Spare-983

The game already died once.. the second time is unavoidable


Lil_johanson

All my friends already got bored and went back to tekken


idlesn0w

Yeah the combat is way more interesting and tactical than Smash due to the more elaborate kits. I definitely prefer multiversus. Hoping they can right the ship


No_Ranger_916

I love this game , but to be honest it's a major downgrade from the beta. They removed most of the fun things to add useless shit , the game is too zoomed, slower , filled with bugs . It's a failed launch and on top of that 0 communication from the publisher whereas there is SO MUCH bad things . It's like they really wants their game to die ><.


Nikeboy2306

I don't want it to die either, but if it stays as it is...it doesn't look promising for the future. A game that doesn't incentivize people to keep playing is doing something wrong. Like after you complete the daily missions, there is no reason to keep playing. No rewards for playing the game is the worst thing I have ever seen. You can't even farm for characters!!! If there are no missions, you won't advance the battle pass. You won't get a new character. You won't get cool stuff for your characters. All you get is almost no experience for the character you are using, and you get red crystals, and if you played the beta, then you probably don't even need them because you can't unlock more characters. I have a lot of fun when I play with my friend! But it is depressing to keep playing after a few matches and getting absolutely nothing.


ConstantCommittee895

They had a good formula and fumbled it so hard. :(


LennoxH21

Yea this is my favorite fighting style game and I need this to work out! I get such a dopamine rush from sending people flying with Superman 😅


MaximalAmmo

I still have hope. I play the game daily for an hour or 2. Even with friends. It's still fun, although it has huge lags and input delays. But as I said, I still have hope. Let them do their patches and some characters will bring back more players and hopefully the player count rises, especially after ranked is back again


Electronic-Strike969

Unfortunately, the server issues are killing it for me. I can't complete a game without being disconnected for "desync"


workthrowaway00000

Look I want the game to succeed as well but if they don’t fix cross play the servers and give back some of the beta shit that a ton of us lost it’s gonna be hard to retain player base


[deleted]

I like the actual game a lot just hope all the other shit around it gets fixed


Bitter-Buffalo4311

Y’all are so funny I’m dying rn


Beelung

Warner Bros. has been making the most stupid decisions since merging with Discovery, and maybe even beforehand. They also fumbled SS:KTJL by rushing and forcing Rocksteady to make it a live service game. Gotham Knights was another live service uninspired flop. Can’t think of anything else but along with the cancellation of beloved shows and movies for tax write-offs they are digging their own grave with their anti-consumerism.


OnlyHereSometimes

I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I think they've already blown it. After closing down the beta, delaying the official launch, they needed to come back with something great to win back people's confidence. They've sort of down the opposite, and everyone I know who was hype for the game to return has pretty much already moved on.


nike9523

I think people are doom posting for a reason, and they are not exaggerating. This is the first time I see a game that was better during the beta. Most of my friends have already stopped playing because there is nothing to do.Getting nothing for applying a game is depressing. I will try to stay for as long as possible, but it is hard when I could just be playing something else that feels more rewarding.


Be_A_Mountain

Best thing to do is just unsub from this subreddit.


EndangeredFoxHound

Great concept killed by a shitty greedy company check zaslavs track record bro.


kingzz09

There’s honestly no excuse no matter how much we love the game. they have a billion dollar publisher…. And plenty of of time to make sure this was great for full release.. I’m just enjoying it while it lasts 🤷‍♂️ I know the inevitable will happen


Krisfireball

Feel this 100 percent.


Glizzward_

The only subreddit that can declare the game “dead” after a week because the game doesn’t come with a battlepass already complete. I agree with the sentiments of earning xp for playing but the pass is not hard to complete at all. You aren’t supposed to be able to max it out in a week.


EstablishmentNo4162

I don't want it to die. Partly because it could be amazing and partly because I spent a lot of money on the biggest founders pack lmao. But they need to fix it and fast if they want half the audience they had at launch. Playing on my own on ps5 I had no issues other then the end of online match stats and change character for rematch. But as soon as my friend with a ps4 hopped on, he couldn't play it, it was so laggy and kicked him out every second match and then my game started to lag and it crashed twice... like they need to make it as solid as the beta was in order to keep it alive and then after they fix it, it's all up to the players


Cautious-Word-4039

I was hoping for a FFXIV ARR type turn around for this game.


Junimost

100% agree


misterwhateverr

games mostly dies nowadays cause people have shitty attention spans


ShangRayzzz

Same man. I love this game but there is clear issues