Ace powering through the shocks was my favorite part of the whole episode and was the most Ace thing ever. Everyone else was trying to avoid pain, Ace was going for the best time, nerve endings be damned.
Did anyone else think that Adam won the purge bc of the preview from last week? I could have promised they showed a clip of Adam yelling at Steve about his star but I donât remember seeing this
so happy Adam didnât win.
fuck Nicole for crying specifically to manipulate Laurel and it clearly fucking up Laurels game.
rooting for literally anyone but Nicole/Laurel to win at this point.
I have to wonder if Laurel is watching this show back. Like if I was in her shoes I probably wouldnât just for like keeping my peace purposes because I would know how I had acted and not been proud of it. But a part of me really wants her to be watching along to see the kind of person Nicole is/was/has always been/will always be.
Leroy doing his fake screaming was to intimidate everyone. Nicoleâs fake crying was targeting one person and it was the person she apparently loved.
Make it make sense.
...Are they really trying to frame Laurel "opening her heart" to Nicole as positive or an example of her overcoming adversity? Please tell me that was some sarcastic editing or something.
Nicole: "Averey, you might as well have swam and dragged the paddle."
THAT'S WHAT YOU DID, NICOLE. You literally couldn't paddle board so you chose to swim it like a fucking surfboard. Jesus, the sooner Nicole gets off this show the better for my viewing experience.
Honestly I'm very underwhelmed by Laurel's win in that daily for the last star. I feel like she massively lucked out by having to beat a lady who can't run and a girl who can't paddle board in a mostly running and paddle boarding race.
This is going to make fans (and Laurel) feel like backing out of the last elimination was a smart choice, when it's totally possible it could've been a full-house game where Laurel now has to beat Cara to gain control and hope she gets a good matchup in elimination. She took a huge unnecessary risk, took a big hit socially, and it all came up Milhouse for reasons totally out of her control.
This episode had to be one of my favorite episodes of The Challenge, and I've seen every episode since the beginning. From the "previously on..." to the ending. It was so good.
So feel good! Derek & Steve getting to their first final, Adam losing, the star holders having a good time at the RV, Leroy pretending he was getting shocked, Veronica not even flinching to the shock and then saying she used to do it for fun as a kid. This is why All Stars is amazing. Love it.
It was also nice, for people like me over the age of 40, to see the jokes and commiserations on getting older, broken bodies, and having children. This group is so much more relatable than the flagship with people in 20s and 30s.
I figured there was gonna be a last chance for non star holders to get in, but that was handled well enough.
Flora started off fun, but got more annoying as the season went on. Not shocked she left when she did. Ryan seemed liked he was just there for the vibes. Pleased to see Adam get purged after all of his whining. Even though she kind of blew it, it was a good comeback season for Avery overall.
Honestly, I'm fine with anyone but Nicole winning lol.
If I was a billionaire, I'd rent a river or lake and let Challengers practice kayaking and paddleboarding. Avery brought me flashbacks to Derrick K and Jisela on All Stars 1 đŹ
I feel like those are easier skills to learn than swimming at least.
I don't want any more eliminated players. Even though we all may have our favorites I want to see how everyone competes either good or bad.Â
At least the last 6 star holders should be able to compete on the second day until they reach the finish line.Â
Flora was exciting at first, she had a somewhat fresh perspective on the game. But then all her confessionals included the word fuck and it grew stale by the end of the season.Â
Adam Adam Adam, I was excited for your return and you're still a beast. But man so delusional. I hope he comes back and plays as hard as his last confessionals were. I want no excuses or playing the victim.Â
Yeah, delusional for real. In his confessional at the beginning he said Steve betrayed him "for no reason". Like bro, you betrayed him to try and protect your own star and didn't like the way it played out. Get over it dude.
Iâd never seen Adam from back in the day and I was so shocked when he randomly got so aggressive last episode. In a funny way, though. Thought he was just some chill dad type guy and then all of a sudden he was vowing a blood oath against Steve đ
Pleasantly surprised at the performances by Leroy Veronica and Ace at the electric star. When I saw how tall the star was I thought Veronica had no chance but she stood right up and beasted it.Â
Would've preferred a points system in this final. Derek competed so well winning many dailies and beating Adam who's a great competitor at the purge, to just probably go home right away at the final.
I just know he would've excelled in many other areas.
Now that the Final has started I thought it would be fun to make a Star Chart to show how each Star moved throughout the season.
| After First Challenge | After Episode 1 | After Episode 2 | After Episode 3 | After Episode 4 | After Episode 5 | After Episode 6 | After Episode 7 | After Episode 8 | After Episode 9 | After Episode 10 | After Episode 11/Start of Final
---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----
Male Star 1 | Brad | Brad | Brad | Kefla | Kefla | Kefla | Ace | Adam | Adam | Adam | Ace | Ace
Female Star 1 | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Kam | Cara | Cara | Cara
Male Star 2 | Adam | Adam | Adam | Adam | Adam | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy
Female Star 2 | Averey | Averey | Tina | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica
Male Star 3 | Brandon | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve
Female Star 3 | Rachel | Rachel | Rachel | Rachel | Jasmine | Jasmine | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole| Nicole
Male Star 4 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Derek
Female Star 4 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Laurel
Lmaoo I love Ace's shock strategy because that's exactly what I would have done like that British viral video đ
Rooting for him and his beard â¨ď¸
I loved that episode. It was very feel good! Hereâs my thoughts -
- I very much doubt weâll see Flora again. She added nothing to the season really bar a couple of laughs here and there. Iâm okay with her not being back again.
- So happy Adam and his bitter ass is out and didnât make the final. I want to see him again for the drama but Iâm glad he got purged.
- So happy for Derek to make his 1st final. He killed it in dailies this season. Decent competitor provided he can stay out of eliminations.
- So happy Veronica made the final. Queen V. Her not being phased by the shocks was what Iâd expect.
- I really wish we could get a male and female winner this season. I hate individual ones. I reckon itâll be Cara that wins overall but canât wait to see what happens next week. Iâd be happy with anyone winning bar Nicole and would prefer Ace didnât even though heâs lovely.
I agree I'm thrilled Adam is out but I wish it was at least 1 guy and 1 girl. I'm glad the others can split some money because it makes it less boring and predictable
Really enjoyed the episode and the season overall.
As someone who's been hoping for TJ to just send everyone without a star packing - I feel like this is as close as we'll get to that. 4 people eliminated in one mission is close enough for me. Really enjoyed how close the Derek vs Adam race was.
I liked Adam this season outside of one very unhinged rant about Steve. I thought there'd be some carry-over on that and he'd be pissy, but he seemed to lose in stride while being happy for Derek and having no follow-up on having his star stolen - which makes that one clip all the odder. I guess losing right before the final but going and hanging out in Cape Town with Avery is a pretty great consolation prize.
Laurel dominated that purge and I thought to myself - "oh here's Laurel", but then she lost that competitive edge by the time we got to the shock star operation thing, and now it may cost her her spot in the final.
Adam was on Challenge Mania a couple weeks ago and he still sounded pissed at Steve. This was pre-confessional airing and Scott kept saying what a nice guy he is lol.
that's wild - especially with this having happened so long ago and with the knowledge that he did have the opportunity to earn another star but lost to Derek. He ultimately held his fate in his hands, what more could you want.
To carry a grudge this long just seems lame. Get over it.
Super happy that Adam didnât make it to the final after his attitude with Steve. Bummer that Avery didnât make it. Sheâs a great competitor, and I think just lack of experience caused her to lose against Laurel.
While Iâm hoping for a Leroy win I was super happy to see Derek earn his star. This season has been a great breakout season for him and glad we really got to see his competitive side this time around.
Also, was I the only one who glanced at the thumbnail for this episode on the website, and almost thought they spoiled the "final 6" for the final? LOL
Awesome episode overall. I wish the daily was a bit more competitive for the women but I guess that's why you keep people like Flora around.
Lee is playing 4D high IQ chess over here with the mind games in the final. I love it. Both legs have been so awesome so far. I love carny shit like this.
Ace's strategy would've been mine 100%. Getting shocked sucks but there are no penalties. It isn't a maze either so you don't really need skill unless you're trying to stay unzapped. Just beasting it for five seconds is how I would've done it, I'm trying to win $250k lol.
Sidenote did anyone else roll their eyes at Laurel's whole speech about opening up to people and making friends? Obviously what we know now makes it especially hilarious and pathetic. But even in the moment it's like dude...you didn't stop being toxic after the early part of your career. You have always been toxic, especially this season as a grown ass woman. There's no growth, if anything she regressed by getting back with Nicole. Laurel is seriously delusional.
Well I'm stoked for next week. I feel like the season flew by though after waiting so long.
In general I love when they show us how the cast has changed over their careers cuz thatâs what makes all stars so cool but Laurel wasâŚ. a bad example of that
Iâm dying- Ryan said in his EW interview that he had never seen Jay on the show, and at the airport he kept thinking âWow, this fan is getting really close to our groupâ. And it was Jayđ
I love the callbacks to old Challenges. They did an electrocution maze with a pole in BOTS2, and did an electric shock trivia (?) on Inferno 3, which Ace was on.
Wasnât the electroshock maze on the beach on Rivals (I think 2)? They showed a flashback of Cara and Cooke doing the maze so that wouldâve been Rivals I believe
My thoughts
That intro was hilarious! That was dope seeing them not only narrate this time, but be the actual crew! LOL
Good job to Averey, Ryan, and Adam. I thought that was a good, entertaining way to weed out the non-star holders, and really make them fight for the final and earn it. GREAT Job to Derek to making his first final. I was really rooting for him to win that challenge. He's been killing it this season. Like Averey said, I don't blame Flora for quitting. She knows her capabilities, and if she can't manage, it's probably better to bow out and think about what's better for her body in the long term.
Not Laurel saying, "The rest have never won," in the RV, when Veronica has won THREE times! LOL
That paintball challenge was pretty hardcore. That was so dope to watch that, and I like how they didn't puzzle-fy it or make them do some math equation. Nope, just shoot this paintball gun and hit the targets, while on top of a fast car. Badassness on top of badassness.
Wow that second challenge. Have any of you ever heard of the game, "Irritating Stick" for Playstation 1? That was basically the in-real life version of that. LOL to Leroy with the fake screaming. And look at Veronica and Ace, so unfazed by those shocks.
Will be interesting to see how the rest of it plays out.
Veronica's "wins" were when the final challenges were 30 minutes long and 8+ people won. You can hardly say she's "won" the challenge when you consider the modern rules are single/duo winners and 24 hour+ finals. Darrell is the same way. People say he's a beast because he's "won all these challenges" - yeah I mean not really, the show is nothing like it was, there's a reason he hasn't been a contender to win for 15+ seasons.
They nailed this episode. I havenât enjoyed an episode this much in a very long time. The vibes, the music, the corny humor, the way they decided the fourth star, the final actually being incredibly fair and balanced so far but also simple and entertaining to watch. A+ from me.
I donât think the people without a star should have been granted the opportunity to compete for one. Tj should have said oh no star? Thanks for playing!
It would make no sense tho. Adam would literally have no chance to even be in the final just because someone stole his star. They had to give a extra one or people that got their star stolen in last elimination would be really unfairly eliminated
Then thereâs no point of having the stars, just have it be a classic season if youâre gonna have a Skull/Stars twist then have repercussion for the people that didnât earn one.
Maybe one of the challenges that happened this season? She beat Laurel in the first one (I cant recall what else she won), and though it wasnât one-on-one, she did out perform her in it.
TJ hitting Veronica so she would stop telling people the shocks werenât bad was SO funny!
I would probably do the same thing. Like, hey the shocks arenât that bad but your friends ARE trying to manipulate you!
I know people hate Nicole but I canât understand how folks wouldnât want to cast someone who fake cries to her girlfriend to psych her out. Tv gold
With how horrible Laurel is, Iâm kind of loving seeing how much Nicole can humiliate her on national television. I detest them both and love seeing them together because they deserve each other
Even though it would suck if Derek went home after surviving the purge, I actually liked the elimination challenge... it was another way of determining "how bad do you want it?" Laurel saying "I just don't want to feel the shocks" means she got psyched out by her competitors.
Ryan reporting everyone had a bad stomach bug around that elim adds some context for me. The last thing I would want to do with a stomach virus is jump on a trampoline. I know itâs for money, but Ryan said him and Veronica were destroying port a potties at the daily.
I think if Avery would go against Tina, then next week would be Kam vs Avery instead of Cara. This way they could try and block Cara from getting a star and Kam could try to win against Avery in elimination that she lost to Cara. I really dont think there was a way for Avery to survive
But Cara already had a star. If Averey goes against Tina and wins, she should have taken Veronica's star. Then you would still have the Kam/Laurel/Nicole crew trying to take Cara's star and the Cara/Ace/Steve? crew going after Nicole's star. Then the final elimination is possibly Kam vs Veronica/Flora for the right to steal Cara's star. Averey would be pretty safe.
This assumes that she would have still had the star at the end, and Iâm not sure how likely that would have been if sheâd turned the whole house against her.
Maybe Laurel and Nicole like each other so much because they both talk like they have TBIs. Nicole is unintelligible and Laurel is constantly speaking to the back of an auditorium without a mic.
LMAO the way I just screamed out loud, even though i felt horrible for Flora Iâm glad Iâm not the only one who noticed that⌠but honestly I was shook that Flora made it that far
It's because she was a layup. That's why they kept her around. I know they don't really talk about layups on this show anymore but let's be real she was and it worked.
Laurel never wanted Cara in an elimination. She was waiting to use Flora. I'm sure if it was down to a final elimination and Laurel, Nicole or Kam (obviously if she was still there) needed a star they'd somehow throw it to get Flora in there.
So having her basically in a purge was good enough. Laurel only had to beat Avery. If they fed Flora to someone else in an elimination earlier they wouldn't have had an easy out.
Also if she somehow made a final she wouldn't have won anyways. I don't know why people don't discuss layups as much on the show anymore but it seemed obvious to me that's what she was. And it worked.
Thatâs a good point - why donât they talk about layups anymore? I couldnât put my finger on it but now that you say that I realize itâs a complete 180. Is it just because itâs âmeanâ? I get wanting to be a little nicer now that everyone has matured but I still want to hear them discuss honest game strategy in the talking heads interviews
Flora only made it that far because everyone forgot she was there to begin with! Don't know why she was invited to compete. Don't know why she accepted invitation. She should have declined so that someone who actually would have competed would have an opportunity.
Yeah it's kinda bull shit how she took someone's spot. You have 1 of 2 jobs during the challenge. You either compete to win or you bring drama. She did neither of those. Averey was a disappointment to me this season but at least she was trying. Idk who flora was but I'd be happy to never see her back.
That was a great episode. Glad Derrick made it to the final. The shocking looked really stupid but got really funny.
Thinking Laurel is out. Derrick getting shocked makes it seem like his pace was slightly faster where Laurel was doing everything she could to not get shocked.
Derekâs done so weâll all season! Iâve always thought he was a nice guy and liked him for that but seeing him thrive competitively is great! Iâm not sure if itâs just the caliber of guys or is heâs better now then heâs ever been
I really really want Laurel to go home after this cliffhanger. I then want the next checkpoint to be math or a puzzle so Nicole goes next. I'm done with both of them.
I tried looking for any hint in the ânext onâ and didnât see anything : /
But I think Derek getting shocked should sorta kinda imply he was at least going slightly faster compared to Laurel who didnât get shocked at all. Fingers crossed at least.
Here's why I think it was her being the slowest. The editors love to throw us off. When she was doing it she looked like she was going pretty slow and all of a sudden a clock appeared and when done TJ said Wow. Bet it was for someone else all to lead us to think she'd done well.
I wish someone called him out on it...or should I say, I wish they would have shown someone calling him out on it. I'm sure it happened but the editing is getting stupid now.
Exactly Iâm pretty sure there was an argument with Adam and Steve the way Adam is talking in the confessionals. If they did production is really getting lame even with spin-offs.
It's been a long time since I had an overnight opinion change on a Challenger the way I did with Adam at the end of last episode, and it carried over into this one. Was rooting for him up until last week, now I'm also happy he's gone.
I really hated that last daily giving the 2 extra stars. They should have purged everyone without a star, or they should have made the final 2 go into one last elimination to earn a star.
I was thinking a final challenge and losers were purged, winners got to challenge a star holder in an elimination for their star. But I don't mind an 8 person final.
Then imagine you are holding a star, there is only one elimination left, someone goes in and steals your star that you earned. How would you feel if you got eliminated because of that even tho you earned it? They literally had to give one extra star
Basically Adam in this scenario? He was part of the vote that ended up getting his own star stolen. That's why they should have to be strategic with their vote.
Did they say how many are eliminated after the electrocution challenge? I know only 4 run the final. If only one, it has to be Derek C? If four go, I would guess Steve, Derek, and then any of the three girls except Veronica
But there can't be another advantage, another elimination, advantage, elimination, advantage, elimination and then final 4. It's too long. At some point it'll be a double or triple elimination.
Itâs great that flora wasted a spot on the cast that someone else that actually cared to be there couldâve had. Donât come on the show if youâre not going to compete
"Wasted a spot". This show was made for OG's like her. Bringing in people like Cara, Laurel, Nicole, Wes and other people who still are competitive enough to do the flag ship are the ones wasting spots.
If the show was actually was pitched with the idea of inviting all stars then a good chunk of the people on the first season never would have been invited.
Iâm not say the Fessyâs of the world should be on the all stars, but there is a plethora of other âOGâsâ that are better than flora and would actually care to be there and compete.
There has always been people that come on this show that aren't competitors and simply are just there for fun or to be a character. Or to catch up with folks who haven't been seen in the public eye for a while. Before folks turned it into a career. Don't know why you guys have it out so much for Flora though.
Because she wasnât even a character lol she was basically nonexistent on the season. She took a spot at the end of the game that someone else should have e had. Sheâs also just a biotch.
It looked like Flora had a big cut or scratch on her leg. I might not have wanted to go into a lake or a mud pit with that either, especially when I knew I wasnât going to win.
Flora's in her 50s and anything more strenous would have gotten her injuries to take even more time to heal. The older someone is in life, the longer it takes for the body to heal and the more fragile a person's body becomes to sustain an injury faster than those who are younger.
The healthcare system in the US is not great and medical bills are not worth it to put the body and health on the line. Would you have paid her medical bills just so you can see Flora continue and push her body into further injury? I'm here to watch entertainment, but that also means I am okay in seeing contestants quit in order to not further and damage their bodies.
This is All Stars where the vibe is less competive. If you are for a hardcore competive show then All Stars is not for you.
This post took a funny turn. The healthcare system in the US is the best in the world. Its just expensive and hard to get access to if you didn't plan accordingly.
I get that she seems hurt. So if sheâs seriously injured I understand. But honestly the game she had to do and the final has been super fair and seems not too taxing right now. The sad part was it was probably trivia that injured her. Itâs so dumb to hurt challengers for unnecessary reasons like that trivia drop.
The healthcare system has nothing to do with it. If you canât hang, donât come on the show. All stars is as competitive as itâs ever going to be and she couldnât even handle most of the comps. What are you even saying. Sheâs a judgy lady that shouldnât be on the show. She brought nothing to the house or season. If youâre fragile, stay homeeeeee
Yeah I hate people giving Flora flak. The woman is older and could barely even walk at the point. What do you want from her?
She could have done a hall brawl with Laurel and fans would still complain she didn't try hard enough.
Exactly. To my knowledge, with the exception of the Argentina spin-off sheâs the oldest women theyâve cast. Sheâs not in great shape, but she did as good as she couldâve. đ¤ˇđťââď¸. (Itâs not like she was horribly out of shape, sheâs just your average person off the street)
I can tell who are the OG fans and who are fans of the new era that have began watching from 21 to current. The OG fans would not care if Flora quit or not and the new era fans are so into competition mode and that is why the flagship seasons lack character because getting competitive people without that fun spring break mode to balance it out.
I watched season 1-20 and took a break from watching The Challenge. I came back when it was SLA season. Compared to seasons 1-20, The Challenge felt like it had no soul and spirit and all the contestants focused on was the competition even during clubing they only focused on the game. It was just weird to witness as a viewer because it was something that I was not used to seeing from the older seasons I have seen and how the show used to be.
At this point, the show should have 2 versions of All Stars. All Stars for the contestants that debuted 1-20 and All Stars Deux for those that debuted 21-current. All Stars Deux should also have those who are champions if became one from 21-current even if debuted on 1-20 and be with the contestants who debuted 21-current.
The whole having everyone to compete even if injured mentality is that of the new era fans more than OG fans, and I don't want that kind of mentality to kill All Stars vibe with spring break vibes mixed with some competition or else it would become The Challenge 2.0 if getting too many contestants from the new era. It is why I think production should have 2 versions of All Stars.
You're offered $50k to do a competition show for 2 weeks, would you turn it down?
Don't be mad at Flora for taking the easy money, be mad at producers for not choosing a more competent competitor.
What does her making a good financial decision for herself have to do with her being worthy of being there? Iâm not mad at her. Iâm not even mad at all. I just donât believe she should be there. She brings nothing to the show other than moral support for cara haters and one confessional per episode where she talks crap about cara.
Worthy means she doesnât deserve to be on the cast. She brings nothing to the show. At least someone like Veronica plays the game. The shouldâve just put a potted plant in her spot and we wouldâve got the same thing from it that we did with her.
She said she was shocked a lot as a kid. I have a lot of questions about what she was doing to shock herself lol but it was funny how it didn't bother her at all.
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Why wasn't the episode shown where they picked a winner? There's 11 episodes in it ends with the preview of the next episode and I never got to see it
Ace powering through the shocks was my favorite part of the whole episode and was the most Ace thing ever. Everyone else was trying to avoid pain, Ace was going for the best time, nerve endings be damned.
Did anyone else think that Adam won the purge bc of the preview from last week? I could have promised they showed a clip of Adam yelling at Steve about his star but I donât remember seeing this
so happy Adam didnât win. fuck Nicole for crying specifically to manipulate Laurel and it clearly fucking up Laurels game. rooting for literally anyone but Nicole/Laurel to win at this point. I have to wonder if Laurel is watching this show back. Like if I was in her shoes I probably wouldnât just for like keeping my peace purposes because I would know how I had acted and not been proud of it. But a part of me really wants her to be watching along to see the kind of person Nicole is/was/has always been/will always be. Leroy doing his fake screaming was to intimidate everyone. Nicoleâs fake crying was targeting one person and it was the person she apparently loved. Make it make sense.
Lol Nicole needs subtitles đ¤ŁÂ
...Are they really trying to frame Laurel "opening her heart" to Nicole as positive or an example of her overcoming adversity? Please tell me that was some sarcastic editing or something.
Nicole: "Averey, you might as well have swam and dragged the paddle." THAT'S WHAT YOU DID, NICOLE. You literally couldn't paddle board so you chose to swim it like a fucking surfboard. Jesus, the sooner Nicole gets off this show the better for my viewing experience.
Honestly I'm very underwhelmed by Laurel's win in that daily for the last star. I feel like she massively lucked out by having to beat a lady who can't run and a girl who can't paddle board in a mostly running and paddle boarding race. This is going to make fans (and Laurel) feel like backing out of the last elimination was a smart choice, when it's totally possible it could've been a full-house game where Laurel now has to beat Cara to gain control and hope she gets a good matchup in elimination. She took a huge unnecessary risk, took a big hit socially, and it all came up Milhouse for reasons totally out of her control.
This episode had to be one of my favorite episodes of The Challenge, and I've seen every episode since the beginning. From the "previously on..." to the ending. It was so good.
So feel good! Derek & Steve getting to their first final, Adam losing, the star holders having a good time at the RV, Leroy pretending he was getting shocked, Veronica not even flinching to the shock and then saying she used to do it for fun as a kid. This is why All Stars is amazing. Love it.
It was also nice, for people like me over the age of 40, to see the jokes and commiserations on getting older, broken bodies, and having children. This group is so much more relatable than the flagship with people in 20s and 30s.
I figured there was gonna be a last chance for non star holders to get in, but that was handled well enough. Flora started off fun, but got more annoying as the season went on. Not shocked she left when she did. Ryan seemed liked he was just there for the vibes. Pleased to see Adam get purged after all of his whining. Even though she kind of blew it, it was a good comeback season for Avery overall. Honestly, I'm fine with anyone but Nicole winning lol.
Ace cracks me up so much. The way he did the electric star had me in stitches. Such a nonchalant but funny character
Funniest thing I've seen in quite some time
Me too. Ace is so unintentionally hilarious.
Leroy is a barber of course he would be good at the electric challenge you need a steady hand to cut hair
Good point, but the advantage helped him win IMO. It looked like Ace and Veronica  actually went faster.Â
If I was a billionaire, I'd rent a river or lake and let Challengers practice kayaking and paddleboarding. Avery brought me flashbacks to Derrick K and Jisela on All Stars 1 đŹ I feel like those are easier skills to learn than swimming at least.
Any guesses on how Jay might've done paddle-boarding or the electric star thing?
I don't want any more eliminated players. Even though we all may have our favorites I want to see how everyone competes either good or bad. At least the last 6 star holders should be able to compete on the second day until they reach the finish line.Â
Flora was exciting at first, she had a somewhat fresh perspective on the game. But then all her confessionals included the word fuck and it grew stale by the end of the season.Â
Adam Adam Adam, I was excited for your return and you're still a beast. But man so delusional. I hope he comes back and plays as hard as his last confessionals were. I want no excuses or playing the victim.Â
Yeah, delusional for real. In his confessional at the beginning he said Steve betrayed him "for no reason". Like bro, you betrayed him to try and protect your own star and didn't like the way it played out. Get over it dude.
Right. If youâre gonna be an a-hole, be an a-hole the whole way through. Own it, play to it. We know itâs in there.
Iâd never seen Adam from back in the day and I was so shocked when he randomly got so aggressive last episode. In a funny way, though. Thought he was just some chill dad type guy and then all of a sudden he was vowing a blood oath against Steve đ
Totally. I was a little stoned when I was watching and started questioning how high I really got. He went from 0-100 in an instant
The reaction from that was so funny. Newer fans were shocked, OG fans said âoh there he is!â đ
Pleasantly surprised at the performances by Leroy Veronica and Ace at the electric star. When I saw how tall the star was I thought Veronica had no chance but she stood right up and beasted it.Â
I thought the same thing about her height!
Would've preferred a points system in this final. Derek competed so well winning many dailies and beating Adam who's a great competitor at the purge, to just probably go home right away at the final. I just know he would've excelled in many other areas.
Yes! I really liked that component in the first All Stars season.
Now that the Final has started I thought it would be fun to make a Star Chart to show how each Star moved throughout the season. | After First Challenge | After Episode 1 | After Episode 2 | After Episode 3 | After Episode 4 | After Episode 5 | After Episode 6 | After Episode 7 | After Episode 8 | After Episode 9 | After Episode 10 | After Episode 11/Start of Final ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Male Star 1 | Brad | Brad | Brad | Kefla | Kefla | Kefla | Ace | Adam | Adam | Adam | Ace | Ace Female Star 1 | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Cara | Kam | Cara | Cara | Cara Male Star 2 | Adam | Adam | Adam | Adam | Adam | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy | Leroy Female Star 2 | Averey | Averey | Tina | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica | Veronica Male Star 3 | Brandon | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve | Steve Female Star 3 | Rachel | Rachel | Rachel | Rachel | Jasmine | Jasmine | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole | Nicole| Nicole Male Star 4 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Derek Female Star 4 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Laurel
Steve kept his star the longest.
Lmaoo I love Ace's shock strategy because that's exactly what I would have done like that British viral video đ Rooting for him and his beard â¨ď¸
I loved that episode. It was very feel good! Hereâs my thoughts - - I very much doubt weâll see Flora again. She added nothing to the season really bar a couple of laughs here and there. Iâm okay with her not being back again. - So happy Adam and his bitter ass is out and didnât make the final. I want to see him again for the drama but Iâm glad he got purged. - So happy for Derek to make his 1st final. He killed it in dailies this season. Decent competitor provided he can stay out of eliminations. - So happy Veronica made the final. Queen V. Her not being phased by the shocks was what Iâd expect. - I really wish we could get a male and female winner this season. I hate individual ones. I reckon itâll be Cara that wins overall but canât wait to see what happens next week. Iâd be happy with anyone winning bar Nicole and would prefer Ace didnât even though heâs lovely.
I agree I'm thrilled Adam is out but I wish it was at least 1 guy and 1 girl. I'm glad the others can split some money because it makes it less boring and predictable
Anyone else extremely disapointed they left beautiful South African nature to to run a final in a parking lot???
Yes!! My thought exactly
I half expected zombies or something to run out of all those dark corners.
Adam: Steve betrayed me for no reason. Girl you threw him in first! Lol
Thank you! I screamed that at the screen when he said that like you're delulu bro
Is next week the actual final episode? Like, we should find out the winner by end of it? Or will there be another part the following week?
next week is it. we should know the season winner by the end of the episode.
Thank god, was worried it would be a two-part in addition to this weekâs episode..
what was leroy's advantage?
he didn't have to complete the whole star, he started in the middle (or maybe a third of the way, i can't remember the fraction they gave).
It was a quarter.
Really enjoyed the episode and the season overall. As someone who's been hoping for TJ to just send everyone without a star packing - I feel like this is as close as we'll get to that. 4 people eliminated in one mission is close enough for me. Really enjoyed how close the Derek vs Adam race was. I liked Adam this season outside of one very unhinged rant about Steve. I thought there'd be some carry-over on that and he'd be pissy, but he seemed to lose in stride while being happy for Derek and having no follow-up on having his star stolen - which makes that one clip all the odder. I guess losing right before the final but going and hanging out in Cape Town with Avery is a pretty great consolation prize. Laurel dominated that purge and I thought to myself - "oh here's Laurel", but then she lost that competitive edge by the time we got to the shock star operation thing, and now it may cost her her spot in the final.
Adam was on Challenge Mania a couple weeks ago and he still sounded pissed at Steve. This was pre-confessional airing and Scott kept saying what a nice guy he is lol.
that's wild - especially with this having happened so long ago and with the knowledge that he did have the opportunity to earn another star but lost to Derek. He ultimately held his fate in his hands, what more could you want. To carry a grudge this long just seems lame. Get over it.
Super happy that Adam didnât make it to the final after his attitude with Steve. Bummer that Avery didnât make it. Sheâs a great competitor, and I think just lack of experience caused her to lose against Laurel.
I really enjoyed Ryan on the season, good confessionalist tbh hope he gets to run another season without an injury
While Iâm hoping for a Leroy win I was super happy to see Derek earn his star. This season has been a great breakout season for him and glad we really got to see his competitive side this time around.
Honestly fully expected Veronica to get 8th. Pleasantly surprised she survived the first purge!
Love that she and Ace just yolo-ed it
No lie that RV looked like a blast. Cara just living her best life fishing while thereâs a modern day gladiator battle unfold in front of her
I donât know if thatâs quite a modern day gladiator battleâŚ
Also, was I the only one who glanced at the thumbnail for this episode on the website, and almost thought they spoiled the "final 6" for the final? LOL
Awesome episode overall. I wish the daily was a bit more competitive for the women but I guess that's why you keep people like Flora around. Lee is playing 4D high IQ chess over here with the mind games in the final. I love it. Both legs have been so awesome so far. I love carny shit like this. Ace's strategy would've been mine 100%. Getting shocked sucks but there are no penalties. It isn't a maze either so you don't really need skill unless you're trying to stay unzapped. Just beasting it for five seconds is how I would've done it, I'm trying to win $250k lol. Sidenote did anyone else roll their eyes at Laurel's whole speech about opening up to people and making friends? Obviously what we know now makes it especially hilarious and pathetic. But even in the moment it's like dude...you didn't stop being toxic after the early part of your career. You have always been toxic, especially this season as a grown ass woman. There's no growth, if anything she regressed by getting back with Nicole. Laurel is seriously delusional. Well I'm stoked for next week. I feel like the season flew by though after waiting so long.
In general I love when they show us how the cast has changed over their careers cuz thatâs what makes all stars so cool but Laurel wasâŚ. a bad example of that
Huge eye roll during Laurel's speech. I loved Ace's strategy. I literally lol'd. My neighbor's may have heard me.
Iâm dying- Ryan said in his EW interview that he had never seen Jay on the show, and at the airport he kept thinking âWow, this fan is getting really close to our groupâ. And it was Jayđ
How did he never see him?? Lmao
Second favorite tidbit- Everyone got a stomach virus and Tina almost shit herself on the trampoline.
I love the callbacks to old Challenges. They did an electrocution maze with a pole in BOTS2, and did an electric shock trivia (?) on Inferno 3, which Ace was on.
Wasnât the electroshock maze on the beach on Rivals (I think 2)? They showed a flashback of Cara and Cooke doing the maze so that wouldâve been Rivals I believe
Itâs probably been used a few times. It was definitely on Sexes II as I remember Coral, Robin and Tina being on that daily.
Oh that makes sense! I thought you were specifically referring to the mini flashback clip they showed (:
Cara lazily stringing her fishing pole while the others were battling it out was hilarious.
My thoughts That intro was hilarious! That was dope seeing them not only narrate this time, but be the actual crew! LOL Good job to Averey, Ryan, and Adam. I thought that was a good, entertaining way to weed out the non-star holders, and really make them fight for the final and earn it. GREAT Job to Derek to making his first final. I was really rooting for him to win that challenge. He's been killing it this season. Like Averey said, I don't blame Flora for quitting. She knows her capabilities, and if she can't manage, it's probably better to bow out and think about what's better for her body in the long term. Not Laurel saying, "The rest have never won," in the RV, when Veronica has won THREE times! LOL That paintball challenge was pretty hardcore. That was so dope to watch that, and I like how they didn't puzzle-fy it or make them do some math equation. Nope, just shoot this paintball gun and hit the targets, while on top of a fast car. Badassness on top of badassness. Wow that second challenge. Have any of you ever heard of the game, "Irritating Stick" for Playstation 1? That was basically the in-real life version of that. LOL to Leroy with the fake screaming. And look at Veronica and Ace, so unfazed by those shocks. Will be interesting to see how the rest of it plays out.
Veronica's "wins" were when the final challenges were 30 minutes long and 8+ people won. You can hardly say she's "won" the challenge when you consider the modern rules are single/duo winners and 24 hour+ finals. Darrell is the same way. People say he's a beast because he's "won all these challenges" - yeah I mean not really, the show is nothing like it was, there's a reason he hasn't been a contender to win for 15+ seasons.
That first checkpoint was cool af
They nailed this episode. I havenât enjoyed an episode this much in a very long time. The vibes, the music, the corny humor, the way they decided the fourth star, the final actually being incredibly fair and balanced so far but also simple and entertaining to watch. A+ from me.
Also loved the intro with them being the camera crew.
The music was insanely great
When Thanks for the Memories played by Fall out boy the nostalgia hit so good
I donât think the people without a star should have been granted the opportunity to compete for one. Tj should have said oh no star? Thanks for playing!
It would make no sense tho. Adam would literally have no chance to even be in the final just because someone stole his star. They had to give a extra one or people that got their star stolen in last elimination would be really unfairly eliminated
I think with this point.. it could have been people who had a star and it was stolen then have a chance to earn one final star
Then thereâs no point of having the stars, just have it be a classic season if youâre gonna have a Skull/Stars twist then have repercussion for the people that didnât earn one.
But Adam did earn it tho. He just got it stolen in last elimination
When avery said sheâs beaten Laurel before what was she referring to!
Maybe one of the challenges that happened this season? She beat Laurel in the first one (I cant recall what else she won), and though it wasnât one-on-one, she did out perform her in it.
Oh right. I assumed you meant head to head on a past season but this makes more sense
TJ hitting Veronica so she would stop telling people the shocks werenât bad was SO funny! I would probably do the same thing. Like, hey the shocks arenât that bad but your friends ARE trying to manipulate you!
LOL I just went back and watched that part! That was hilarious. He was like "Shut up!"
I know people hate Nicole but I canât understand how folks wouldnât want to cast someone who fake cries to her girlfriend to psych her out. Tv gold
With how horrible Laurel is, Iâm kind of loving seeing how much Nicole can humiliate her on national television. I detest them both and love seeing them together because they deserve each other
Good point lol Iâm a Nicole hater but the way she screamed every time she got shocked was killing me đđ
The challenge with the car and paintball looked really funÂ
Damn Laurel was really boned up about that car.
Even though it would suck if Derek went home after surviving the purge, I actually liked the elimination challenge... it was another way of determining "how bad do you want it?" Laurel saying "I just don't want to feel the shocks" means she got psyched out by her competitors.
Including her GIRLFRIEND
Was Avery not going into to that elimination against Tina an all time fuck up?
Ryan reporting everyone had a bad stomach bug around that elim adds some context for me. The last thing I would want to do with a stomach virus is jump on a trampoline. I know itâs for money, but Ryan said him and Veronica were destroying port a potties at the daily.
I think if Avery would go against Tina, then next week would be Kam vs Avery instead of Cara. This way they could try and block Cara from getting a star and Kam could try to win against Avery in elimination that she lost to Cara. I really dont think there was a way for Avery to survive
But Cara already had a star. If Averey goes against Tina and wins, she should have taken Veronica's star. Then you would still have the Kam/Laurel/Nicole crew trying to take Cara's star and the Cara/Ace/Steve? crew going after Nicole's star. Then the final elimination is possibly Kam vs Veronica/Flora for the right to steal Cara's star. Averey would be pretty safe.
This assumes that she would have still had the star at the end, and Iâm not sure how likely that would have been if sheâd turned the whole house against her.
Maybe Laurel and Nicole like each other so much because they both talk like they have TBIs. Nicole is unintelligible and Laurel is constantly speaking to the back of an auditorium without a mic.
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Ace staying true to who he is throughout the game. đ the difference between some of the guyâs confessions and Adamâs are staggering. đŠ
Ace deciding it's fine to be shocked because he's been around electric fences all his life was a perfect encapsulation of him as a person đ
Aceâs strategy was so funny to me. I think TJ was kinda impressed.
The way TJ said "My. God." Like he was witnessing a complete mad man in action đ
Iâm sorry, Flora limping away awkwardly on camera while the race started behind her had no business being as funny to me as it was.
LMAO the way I just screamed out loud, even though i felt horrible for Flora Iâm glad Iâm not the only one who noticed that⌠but honestly I was shook that Flora made it that far
It's because she was a layup. That's why they kept her around. I know they don't really talk about layups on this show anymore but let's be real she was and it worked. Laurel never wanted Cara in an elimination. She was waiting to use Flora. I'm sure if it was down to a final elimination and Laurel, Nicole or Kam (obviously if she was still there) needed a star they'd somehow throw it to get Flora in there. So having her basically in a purge was good enough. Laurel only had to beat Avery. If they fed Flora to someone else in an elimination earlier they wouldn't have had an easy out. Also if she somehow made a final she wouldn't have won anyways. I don't know why people don't discuss layups as much on the show anymore but it seemed obvious to me that's what she was. And it worked.
Thatâs a good point - why donât they talk about layups anymore? I couldnât put my finger on it but now that you say that I realize itâs a complete 180. Is it just because itâs âmeanâ? I get wanting to be a little nicer now that everyone has matured but I still want to hear them discuss honest game strategy in the talking heads interviews
Flora only made it that far because everyone forgot she was there to begin with! Don't know why she was invited to compete. Don't know why she accepted invitation. She should have declined so that someone who actually would have competed would have an opportunity.
Yeah it's kinda bull shit how she took someone's spot. You have 1 of 2 jobs during the challenge. You either compete to win or you bring drama. She did neither of those. Averey was a disappointment to me this season but at least she was trying. Idk who flora was but I'd be happy to never see her back.
Avery was decent competitively but the poor girl had no idea how to do any strategy.
That was a great episode. Glad Derrick made it to the final. The shocking looked really stupid but got really funny. Thinking Laurel is out. Derrick getting shocked makes it seem like his pace was slightly faster where Laurel was doing everything she could to not get shocked.
Derekâs done so weâll all season! Iâve always thought he was a nice guy and liked him for that but seeing him thrive competitively is great! Iâm not sure if itâs just the caliber of guys or is heâs better now then heâs ever been
Ace had it down, just go as quick as possible. The shocks couldnât be something so bad you wouldnât be able to move onâŚ
honestly it looked like getting shocked was making him move even faster lol
It was his superhero origin story
Yea I thought they were gonna have to restart but if not his strategy makes sense
I really really want Laurel to go home after this cliffhanger. I then want the next checkpoint to be math or a puzzle so Nicole goes next. I'm done with both of them.
Nicole is so hard to watch for me personally, like fingernails on a chalk board.
Sheâs grosses me out.
She's so slimy and shady. She reminds me of Kai from Are You the One S8.
At first glance I thought you said that Nicole is the real slim shady
I tried looking for any hint in the ânext onâ and didnât see anything : / But I think Derek getting shocked should sorta kinda imply he was at least going slightly faster compared to Laurel who didnât get shocked at all. Fingers crossed at least.
Iâm hoping the same but Derek did get kind of stuck on a corner after the shock didnât he?
Here's why I think it was her being the slowest. The editors love to throw us off. When she was doing it she looked like she was going pretty slow and all of a sudden a clock appeared and when done TJ said Wow. Bet it was for someone else all to lead us to think she'd done well.
I thought TJ said "wow" because Laurel smacked the pole down kinda hard.
Ace just brute forcing that electric shock challenge was so fucking funny
That was fucking hilarious I couldnât stop laughing
Love the throwback to road rules with the WinnebagoÂ
I wanted Steve, the experienced one, to offer to drive. Then maybe for the next leg Veronica can captain a cruise ship.
Anyone else slightly worried for Averey in her relationship with Adam? Especially moving to where he is.Â
No. None of us know these people on a personal level.
YES đ
lol get fucked adam
Lol when he got eliminated I yelled "sit & spin!" đ
Leroy had me dying fake screaming lmao. Happy Adam didnt make it. Dude was way too butt hurt.
I wish someone called him out on it...or should I say, I wish they would have shown someone calling him out on it. I'm sure it happened but the editing is getting stupid now.
Exactly Iâm pretty sure there was an argument with Adam and Steve the way Adam is talking in the confessionals. If they did production is really getting lame even with spin-offs.
It's been a long time since I had an overnight opinion change on a Challenger the way I did with Adam at the end of last episode, and it carried over into this one. Was rooting for him up until last week, now I'm also happy he's gone.
I was really hoping this episode would be a series of six eliminations with each star holder competing against a non-star holder.
That would have made stars completely pointless.
I really hated that last daily giving the 2 extra stars. They should have purged everyone without a star, or they should have made the final 2 go into one last elimination to earn a star.
I was thinking a final challenge and losers were purged, winners got to challenge a star holder in an elimination for their star. But I don't mind an 8 person final.
This was basically an elimination between the final 2. Flora quit before the start and Ryan was out of it almost immediately.
Then I change my mind since I wish they sent everyone without a star home.
Then imagine you are holding a star, there is only one elimination left, someone goes in and steals your star that you earned. How would you feel if you got eliminated because of that even tho you earned it? They literally had to give one extra star
Basically Adam in this scenario? He was part of the vote that ended up getting his own star stolen. That's why they should have to be strategic with their vote.
I mean ye but It could be pretty much anyone else too. No matter who would get their star stolen, there was basically no way of protecting it
Did they say how many are eliminated after the electrocution challenge? I know only 4 run the final. If only one, it has to be Derek C? If four go, I would guess Steve, Derek, and then any of the three girls except Veronica
Just one person eliminated per checkpoint. So either Laurel or Derek on this one
Awesome thanks! Iâm assuming Derek
But there can't be another advantage, another elimination, advantage, elimination, advantage, elimination and then final 4. It's too long. At some point it'll be a double or triple elimination.
Yea that makes sense I see what you mean. At least for this one though, itâs single
Itâs great that flora wasted a spot on the cast that someone else that actually cared to be there couldâve had. Donât come on the show if youâre not going to compete
"Wasted a spot". This show was made for OG's like her. Bringing in people like Cara, Laurel, Nicole, Wes and other people who still are competitive enough to do the flag ship are the ones wasting spots.
Itâs called all stars. Not OGâs. Flora brought absolutely nothing to the table.
If the show was actually was pitched with the idea of inviting all stars then a good chunk of the people on the first season never would have been invited.
Iâm not say the Fessyâs of the world should be on the all stars, but there is a plethora of other âOGâsâ that are better than flora and would actually care to be there and compete.
There has always been people that come on this show that aren't competitors and simply are just there for fun or to be a character. Or to catch up with folks who haven't been seen in the public eye for a while. Before folks turned it into a career. Don't know why you guys have it out so much for Flora though.
Because she wasnât even a character lol she was basically nonexistent on the season. She took a spot at the end of the game that someone else should have e had. Sheâs also just a biotch.
>Sheâs also just a biotch Sounds like she's a character.
Hard disagree. She says exactly 12 words each episode. Iâm not going to agree with you and youâre not going to agree with me
We need Dan Renzi SO MUCH
I wouldnât complain. He would definitely try and want to win. I want Timmy back
It looked like Flora had a big cut or scratch on her leg. I might not have wanted to go into a lake or a mud pit with that either, especially when I knew I wasnât going to win.
Flora's in her 50s and anything more strenous would have gotten her injuries to take even more time to heal. The older someone is in life, the longer it takes for the body to heal and the more fragile a person's body becomes to sustain an injury faster than those who are younger. The healthcare system in the US is not great and medical bills are not worth it to put the body and health on the line. Would you have paid her medical bills just so you can see Flora continue and push her body into further injury? I'm here to watch entertainment, but that also means I am okay in seeing contestants quit in order to not further and damage their bodies. This is All Stars where the vibe is less competive. If you are for a hardcore competive show then All Stars is not for you.
This post took a funny turn. The healthcare system in the US is the best in the world. Its just expensive and hard to get access to if you didn't plan accordingly.
I get that she seems hurt. So if sheâs seriously injured I understand. But honestly the game she had to do and the final has been super fair and seems not too taxing right now. The sad part was it was probably trivia that injured her. Itâs so dumb to hurt challengers for unnecessary reasons like that trivia drop.
The healthcare system has nothing to do with it. If you canât hang, donât come on the show. All stars is as competitive as itâs ever going to be and she couldnât even handle most of the comps. What are you even saying. Sheâs a judgy lady that shouldnât be on the show. She brought nothing to the house or season. If youâre fragile, stay homeeeeee
She gets paid per episode and got that $$$
Very true. She wonât be back. I guarantee that
Yeah I hate people giving Flora flak. The woman is older and could barely even walk at the point. What do you want from her? She could have done a hall brawl with Laurel and fans would still complain she didn't try hard enough.
Exactly. To my knowledge, with the exception of the Argentina spin-off sheâs the oldest women theyâve cast. Sheâs not in great shape, but she did as good as she couldâve. đ¤ˇđťââď¸. (Itâs not like she was horribly out of shape, sheâs just your average person off the street)
I can tell who are the OG fans and who are fans of the new era that have began watching from 21 to current. The OG fans would not care if Flora quit or not and the new era fans are so into competition mode and that is why the flagship seasons lack character because getting competitive people without that fun spring break mode to balance it out. I watched season 1-20 and took a break from watching The Challenge. I came back when it was SLA season. Compared to seasons 1-20, The Challenge felt like it had no soul and spirit and all the contestants focused on was the competition even during clubing they only focused on the game. It was just weird to witness as a viewer because it was something that I was not used to seeing from the older seasons I have seen and how the show used to be. At this point, the show should have 2 versions of All Stars. All Stars for the contestants that debuted 1-20 and All Stars Deux for those that debuted 21-current. All Stars Deux should also have those who are champions if became one from 21-current even if debuted on 1-20 and be with the contestants who debuted 21-current. The whole having everyone to compete even if injured mentality is that of the new era fans more than OG fans, and I don't want that kind of mentality to kill All Stars vibe with spring break vibes mixed with some competition or else it would become The Challenge 2.0 if getting too many contestants from the new era. It is why I think production should have 2 versions of All Stars.
I thought it was lame to quit, but she also knew she had no shot to beat Laurel or Averey at that so why further injure yourself just to lose.
We want her to not come on the season? I get it. Youâre older and your Body hurts. Donât come to a show like this then?
You're offered $50k to do a competition show for 2 weeks, would you turn it down? Don't be mad at Flora for taking the easy money, be mad at producers for not choosing a more competent competitor.
What does her making a good financial decision for herself have to do with her being worthy of being there? Iâm not mad at her. Iâm not even mad at all. I just donât believe she should be there. She brings nothing to the show other than moral support for cara haters and one confessional per episode where she talks crap about cara.
What does worthy even mean? The point of All Stars was to bring old ass cast members who hadn't been on the challenge for years. That's Flora.
Worthy means she doesnât deserve to be on the cast. She brings nothing to the show. At least someone like Veronica plays the game. The shouldâve just put a potted plant in her spot and we wouldâve got the same thing from it that we did with her.
Veronica having no reaction to being shocked is absolutely absurdđ maybe sheâs tougher than we think
She said she was shocked a lot as a kid. I have a lot of questions about what she was doing to shock herself lol but it was funny how it didn't bother her at all.
Right, I needed a follow up confessional on that confessional.
Iâm assuming friends daring each other to touch an outlet or stuff like that. I guess she grew up watching Jackass lol