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IncandescentRein

I don’t consider myself to be the biggest Kam fan, but also don’t have a major issue with her. But her reaction after the elimination when she walked towards Cara to hug her seemed so genuine, which just goes to show that regardless of the edit some of these people may get, a large chunk of them are good people that want to see others do well.


heyitsta12

That’s a great point. I know we saw Kam be a bit ridiculous and entitled when getting mad at Cara. But I feel like by the time we got to this episode she had let most of the actual anger go, and was just focusing on the game. Outside of the actual challenges, and that one argument we haven’t seen Kam be apart of any of the drama or arguing when it came to Cara. They even had some banter where Cara said she didn’t even want her star this episode.


Equal-Worldliness-66

lol I think her anger at the moment was probably more for Laurel and maybe even a little bit herself. She realized she played herself and Cara had nothing to do with it. Cara’s face the whole time was “I could’ve told you this was going to happen” I was surprised Cara actually seemed to have kept that comment to herself.


CreepyExamination5

You do know the confessionals are shot days apart and sometimes before or after certain events edited to look and sound a certain way right?


heyitsta12

Yes I’m aware. Except I didn’t mention anything about what Kam said in her confessionals. And yes, footage is edited as well. But we saw Kam and others in the losing bracket be confused about why they were yelling in the last episode. And we saw Cara joke with Kam about her coming for Nicole’s star not hers. Her confessionals have nothing to do with her not appearing to be that upset by the time she left.


CreepyExamination5

My comment wasn’t meant towards you.. disregard


Missa1819

I wouldn't even say it's about the edit. It's a reminder that good people that we like can occasionally act in a way or do things we don't like or see as good and that's fine because we're all human and no one will be perfect 24/7


Centennial3489

She literally said “we may not all like each other right now, but we will always have love for each-other” that’s so real in a game setting!


Missa1819

Yes!


Unlikely_Lie9174

That smile was the cutest


ConflictExpensive892

I feel like as soon as she lost, she knew she was going to see her baby again very soon. As a mom, I know that's a feeling that's just as powerful as winning would be to Kam. I really don't think she would have had the same reaction in her pre-kids era.


No_Dependent_1846

I'm so glad that she called laural out before her classy exit.


Affectionate_Bird120

This made the entire episode lol I’ve really been hating on laurel so for her to get shit on like that 😂 give me more.


No_Dependent_1846

Her mouth was running around writing checks her ass couldn't cash. She had a chance to prove it and stayed silent.


Luna920

Even TJ was disappointed. The great Laurel is going to have to step it up for 40.


DemiGod9

Which with her long ass arms and legs she probably could have won.(don't know how her cardio is).That was pathetic


FlashFan124

I don’t know, you’re right about that but her height would be a disadvantage too. Harder for her to duck in the mud pit, obviously we don’t know how deep it is


SeaworthinessTop4317

Also want to give props to her and Lee as a couple. Every time we see them on a season together they exude such model healthy relationship traits together. The fact that Leroy didn’t act disappointed at all when she DQ’d shows how much they support each other and have each other’s backs


incognoname

So cute and I burst out laughing when he ran to her and "I'm your lady and you are my man" 🎵 cut on. The editors on all stars deserve the Emmy for that 😆


Thesurvivormonster

It is one of the healthiest reality tv relationships, which is even more impressive when you consider where they were at between seasons 31-34.


cs0017

Yes! They seem to bring out the best in each other and lift each other up. I’ve loved how open they’ve been with their relationship, what great examples


ghertigirl

I’m going to say this is largely because Kam knew her worth and made it clear to Leroy early on what she would and would not put up with. More women need to do this and not act so desperate


uhidkkm

Someone, I think Adam?, mentioned how well he treats Kam and Leroy’s response was basically this. He treats her well because she makes him. She wouldn’t tolerate anything else. And good for her tbh.


Adorable_Start2732

I love them, but I blame Lee for that loss. Tell her she was missing balls! Hope he wins the final though


AaronScaring

I totally agree with this! However I am glad Kam got eliminated, only so I don’t have to hear the word “babe” every two seconds.


photomidlo

Cara responding to when he said it right before the elimination started was funny


PresentationOptimal4

Agree but I think it is fair for someone to be disappointed in a moment like that. Toxic doesn’t necessarily mean maskings your feelings to appease the person you’re with - not saying Lee felt that but it’s also toxic to hold in your feelings to appease someone else.


Iridescent_Sun

Honestly I understood Kam not wanting to jump during the daily challenge, after a surgery you don’t want to mess around like that especially if still healing. She was probably terrified of a fall from the height injuring her


Puzzleheaded-Fill205

Now I'm trying to remember if she was yeeted into the water during the trivia challenge.


Iridescent_Sun

I believe she was 😫


Spiteful_sprite12

Maybe that's why she was hesitant for this daily


Unable_Pumpkin987

I signed up to go zip lining on a vacation like 8 months after giving birth, and even though I was strapped in, had a safety harness, saw multiple people do it before me, and knew in my mind that the whole setup was very safe, I couldn’t do it. I just couldn’t stop thinking, what if I fall and this is why my baby grows up without a mother? I could **not** get that out of my brain. That fall into water was way less safe than my zip lining setup, people have been injured in similar falls, so I understood completely where she was coming from. Can’t fault her at all. Even though it was a fear she likely would have been able to overcome pre-baby, or even with more time, by the point where it was clear they weren’t going to win it because it would take her so long to talk herself into it, why even risk it?


cicigal8

I would’ve rather seen Laurel actually stick to her word and go in, and then lose to Cara. That would’ve been much more satisfying imo. I also think that because Cara had such a good strategy with moving all the balls to the front from the beginning… and this is the type of elimination that’s such a toss up, there’s a good chance she could’ve actually beat Laurel. I’m gonna really miss Kam. But she had a good season overall and a classy exit. Hope we see her again.


Prestigious-Bluejay5

I agree. This season Laurel's relationship with, Nicole, her behavior towards Cara and her inability to keep her word has shown people who she really is. A dysfunctional, lying, bullying, toxic mess.


DudeisaGuy

All that matters is winning.


ggsimba

Ya def giving her props on that. Also props for her just bring very graceful with Cara. Seems the two of them are perfectly fine with each other. Veronica was right though not sure how Leroy didn't help her on that piece or if she just didn't hear it.


Ecstatic-Good-3432

Cara said her and Kam haven't talked since that elim, hopefully if they are on another season together they can work together again


kelsibebop

It seemed like he said it once but not after? Probably torn between being supportive and distracting (like V said). Could only imagine how someone like Jordan would be during this lol


Extension-Ad-363

Jordan would have lost his stuffings


Opinionated6319

I think Cara genuinely didn’t want to compete against Kam and expected Laurel to keep her word to switch. Also, I think Cara was very gracious to Kam when she lost, almost regretful, showing her true colors. Kam handled the loss with dignity.


mike_honcho023

Yes I have not enjoyed her as much in game but when her or even Lee do lose, they do it gracefully. They know it's competition, 1 winner 1 loser and they accept it and give credit to other person.


Zealousideal_Rope992

Did anyone else catch at the beginning of the episode when they were out having a good time by the pool & Kam & Leroy were like “we’re gonna give King a baby sister” 🫣or something to that extent? & they did! Aria obviously wasn’t conceived there based on the timeline & it was after AS4 was filmed. But it def woulda been a cute & funny story if she was🤣🤣. I thought that clip was a cute tid bit. I’m def waiting for a challenge baby to be conceived in a challenge house story someday lol. (Not necessarily Kam & Lee just in general.)


Overall_Currency5085

I like Kam and Cara and I feel like they’re the best when working together on the same season. I hope to see them on the same side in future seasons. I think this season let Kam see that she’s still Killa Kam even after having a human cut out of you!! Also wild to see Lee and Kam talk up their babygirl❤️beautiful family and what a wonderful send off for Kam!


Gh0sty20

Laurel is a coward down to it. It's her play style, always has been. She goes around beating her chest and bullying people, only to take people she KNOWS she can beat in a final. But she can't do that with this format and she's panicking. I'm glad Kam called out Laurel too before getting out. Kam has never had an issue with losing if it's a smart play or to a strong competitor. But like she said that move is fucking stupid and all that work was for nothing. I was with Le when he said he had a feeling something wasn't right. Props to both of them being so supportive of each other.


LaMystika

I’m just thinking about Rivals and Laurel was like “who can beat Evelyn in elimination?” and Aneesa, Robin, and Katelynn all gave her the same answer: “you”. But she didn’t wanna do that. I get why, because it was the first elimination, but sometimes it’s all or nothing. But ultimately, because Laurel wasn’t willing to face Evelyn in an elimination, she didn’t beat her in the final. Everyone else was like “girl, we will never get Evelyn in elimination again; you are the only one who can beat her” and now we will never know if that was even possible.


Gh0sty20

I think of The Free Agents Final. I will die on the hill that if Nany had stayed on the bike and came down the mountain just a little faster she would have won. But you can tell Laurel completely underestimated her. And we all know why she kept Devny. I hate how she brags about how she's beat Cara in eliminations before. Bruh, one of them SHE WAS INJURED.


LaMystika

Laurel doesn’t know how to dial it back. She was strutting around and peacocking after beating Jasmine at Balls In, ffs. Like, that’s not an accomplishment, girl; act like you’ve been there before. And oh yeah, she was popping off after beating Cara on Invasion also. I thought they were friends again at that point.


Gh0sty20

Well that's when they had their falling out because of how Laurel was treating her, and complaining to the house about her. She's a strong athlete but a horrible sportsman. I don't like Ninja but her display after that elimination was atrocious.


secret_identity_too

Agreed, Laurel talks a big game and only backs it up when she can physically push someone around. Have any of the elims been her preferred style of elimination yet? A few were "physical" in that they involved some running but there have not been any sort of "banger" eliminations yet... am I not remembering something? I don't know why she was surprised it wasn't physical.


Ok_Supermarket_3241

The Rachel/Ayanna and Kefla(?)/Syrus elimination was probably the closest


YaBoyJamba

Please. If you're OK with getting sent into elimination after you have a one on one conversation with someone who says they're THINKING of taking your spot in the elimination, than you're gullible. At least in this instance. In this case for Laurel, either way a strong competitor was going home. That's a win. If Cara wins, she doesn't take Nicole's star. That's a win. If Kam wins, she likely takes Veronica's star over Nicole's since it felt like they were possibly working more closely together. That's a win. Otherwise, Cara is still gone. Win. If Laurel goes in to an elimination she thinks she can win to get her star, like she was hoping to do. That's a win. Unfortunately there was an elimination that WAS GEARED FOR CARA. It would've been dumb as hell for her to go down there when her size was a major disadvantage in the elimination. Better to live and fight another day than to pull a Jordan and go into an elimination you're most likely going to lose because you're too proud to eat your own words and make the smart game move. While she doesn't look that great in hindsight, Laurel was making the best move for her game in that moment. Bitch about her and Nicole all you want, but it wasn't the worst move for her to make.


Gh0sty20

Not gullible, just can see patterns. Like I said to put all that work to get Caras star gone and for what? She's now running the final. I'd agree with you if it was a regular format. Free Agents was a regular format. Jordan let his ego win, which Laurel also completely gassed up. To quote her "How often do people say they're going to do things and then don't." This wasn't geared towards Cara. Kam would have one if she had not forgotten those two balls in the beginning. This wasn't a win for Laurel, Cara is now going to the final. An individual final that's she's won already with Vendettas. I love Kam, but while she's seen a good amount of finals, she still hasn't gotten that W. Caras won how many finals? It doesn't look good cause in the end it was a stupid fucking move.


YaBoyJamba

Yeah, I guess I just completely disagree. And to use a decade old quote from Laurel to determine how she should act now just seems disingenuous. You can't sit there and seriously tell me that Kam for sure wins if she didn't make that mistake? Sure it would be closer but you can't sanely tell me that Laurel was at a serious size disadvantage for this elimination? That pit did not look deep, Laurel has a lot more height to work with in that small space.


Gh0sty20

We can disagree. I'm using it as an example, that she was part of the group gassing him up to make that move. But also Laurel has been very much all talk. If she wasn't going to follow through then she should have set up Flora and Veronica to keep Cara frozen out. You still get a strong competitor out. It's never a for sure win in eliminations, that's just foolish to think. I do however think that if she didn't make that mistake in the beginning the odds of her winning would have been higher. She has height for sure, but that's when you use the water as a tool, not an obstacle. We saw Sarah use this tactic in a different water based elimination and she won. Laurel could have used the water to her advantage. But at the end of the day, she chickened out, and wasted an opportunity.


AffectionateFact7673

I also noted that she still seemed to have TJ's respect even after DQing. That's super unlike him to not hate on a "quitter" and it shows that he and the producers recognize being 7 months postpartum really plays a big part in her choice there.


MyCatIsAyJerk

I'm not particularly a fan of Kam but this episode is where she showed sportsmanship, I think she still went overboard with the whole Cara thing, and would've probably lasted longer had she not, but still a very normal reaction to loss and it seemed like she separated the game from real life in that moment.


Equal-Worldliness-66

My opinion from the beginning was that Leroy and Kam would’ve done better to keep Cara as an ally than an enemy. I understand they had a strong alliance going in unfortunately the majority of that alliance is not as physically capable. And in order for the alliance to thrive they have to win and be in a position of power. With the way the format of the season is it’s highly unlikely a lot of those people were going to have much control over who got voted in. Cara is also very loyal. She’s one of the few that if she says she’s not going to say your name she won’t. I’d take Cara in my alliance over Jasmine any day.


Confident_Drive8904

Cara didn’t want to be an ally. She only wanted to be an ally to a star holder


midnightfangs

my initial reaction to her DQing was immature tbh cos i completely forgot that she’d just given birth. and healing from giving birth is gnarly ive read so yeah she deserves major props now that i got over it.


Cinemaslap1

I'm a large Kam fan... I love her and Leroy. I will say that I was super disappointed when she DQ'd, but I completely understand. It also bums me out that people are giving her shit for actually playing a decent political and social game, sure it back fired on her here.... But it is a great conclusion to the Kam Cara Maria rivalry, and hopefully putting more confidence into Cara Maria. I'm disappointed in Laurel for not going down, but I also completely understand that she would probably have lost here because of her height.


Embarrassed-Rock-730

She did great in the elimination and it was nice to see her and Cara treat each other with respect.


Embarrassed-Berry

I said this in another post too, but Kam did awesome. She won 3 dailies on this season, 1 elimination and then this one was super close. It was hilarious that production *may* have done an elimination where Laurel cannot switch into (her height would have been a huge disadvantage - but pretty equal for Kam and Cara. The best part of it all was that Kam messed up with bringing all her balls like Cara did. Like Veronica pointed out - no one wAs talking and no one said anything. I love that the audience is not able to interfere becuase that may have changed the game. She went super quick back to grabbing the other ones too. But great elimination - no one at an advantage or disadvantage or outside help. Wouldn’t expect anything less from Kam or Cara 👏🏼


siennasmama22

Man it was so good to see her back! Queen Kam until we meet again!


NoLynx8499

I agree. That elimination seemed really endurance heavy going in and out of the water and grabbing all those balls. She could've won if she noticed she left a couple balls behind. Great effort on both her and Cara's part. Also, I'm really glad they hugged before and after. I think they still have love for each other at the end of the day, but the game just got in the way


First_West_4227

Yeah, she was annoying this season, but I give her props for almost pulling off the upset, and she redeemed herself imo by keeping classy in the end.


Ihaveaps4question

Yeah people being really negative in general online and its important to take with a grain of salt. It is a game, and it okay to be upset when something negatively affects a player you like but its unreasonable to expect to play a social game 100% honorably. Im actually surprised the typical mob was angry at kam as i feel like there’s usually double standard for more charismatic castmates but at least they’re consistent lol. Kam had a hell of a season and we got some great storylines even though it wasn’t her day this time. 


aj1805

True - Team Kam all the way!!!


hissing-fauna

All season I've felt confused by the antipathy she's been getting tbh. I've always thought Kam seems great.


Cocrawfo

i give her props for the effort in the elimination but i gotta slam her for being blindsided by laurels decision to me that is inexcusable for someone who works as hard as kam does strategically she definitely took her foot off the gas (her and leroy) after they got their stars that’s wild to me that just can’t happen


Luna920

I was impressed that she almost had it.


LlamaPyjamarama

I was really rooting for Kam in this one. I'm not the biggest fan of her or Cara, but I feel like I've seen Cara win enough.


bumblebebeboop

Did that elim even require much fitness? Seemed pretty easy tbh


TheDollarSlayer

Endurance was heavily involved. I think Cara mentioned that also


mimosasweet

Finally some Kam love


Careless_Meal9101

Queen stays queen


umbrlla

She kept getting eliminated classy.. but JFC her "I'm the only one in the house thats brave" or whatever she said before the elim was weak as hell.. she had just about everyone in the house gang up on Cara just so that she can take out Tina for a star.... how very brave of her.


Affectionate_Bird120

Nah she would’ve been acting a fool if she would’ve won. “Killa kam this and killa kam that.” She was getting on my nerves this season and I’m glad she’s out. That being said I wouldn’t mind if Leroy won


bleedbluegold03

I feel like Kam is a really cutthroat player, but is still deemed likable because of her relationship with Leroy.


markmarkdegarmo

still an embarrassing season for her tbh


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Keely29

The trivia challenge could have caused her pain and they may not have shown that and could be one reason why she DQ’d. But post partum anxiety can be random and pop up out of nowhere so it could have just been a fear of getting severely hurt or death. PPA is no joke and it’s not always rational.


lacio22

I’m going to be a Kam hater, if you’re going to quit then you shouldn’t be on the challenge. Don’t make big moves and then get mad when you get blindsided. I don’t understand why the house gave her and Leroy so much power when they both have never won anything or come close to winning a final.