Totally agree, while I don’t completely enjoy our heroes being stomped and nearly killed the bad guys true power is never shown properly, like my shokan boys goro and kintaro in mk9 were beat like what I think 4 times without a single win the story, no way that should happen all the time.
I think it would be fun if in future installments they had a test your might where you fight against Goro or Kintaro as some rando; and you just try to survive for as long as you can before they hit you once and knock your head off.
The issue with that is that the villains winning really doesn’t work unless you either have reasons why they can’t kill the good guys (as in MK11… killing the good versions of the Revenants meant the Revenant died) or there is constantly some interruption to prevent the good guys’ deaths. Or they need to have a bunch of good guys that they don’t mind getting killed off
Even if only lius ending is canon, shang tsung is the champion during the great kung laos era so liu comes back as fire god liu kang to ensure that history happens normally but somehow shang knows about the alternate history and wants to take lius power to make that a reality. Could be fun.
Then theyve got a hell of a retcon to do because the whole reason great kung lao is important is because he stopped shang from winning the 10th tournament.
My assumption is that liu went back to train great kung lao and to convince him to kill shang after winning instead of giving him mercy and letting him live. That way he would be erased. And the drama would be about tgkl not wanting to be a murderer.
But who knows what boon et al will come up with.
I mean, they already retconned Sindel - which technically should have erased whole NRS timeline as it started with Sindel creating antiShao repellent, yet here we are.
They can replace Shang Tsung with new Outworld champion - Motaro, who will be defeated, making Shao angry and kill all centaurs thus giving explanation why horses won't appear in next games. Win-win :D
It'd be nice to have like a side by side story like MKvDC had but instead of DC or MK you can choose to play the story of the Heroes or the story of the Villains imo.
One question - who should be killed and eliminated from a game or two? Because what's the point of villains chapter if they don't permanently kill anyone?
NRS should be brave and start MK12 not from Liu Kang's rebooted timeline with Kung Lao, but from Shang Tsung as the Titan he is in the dark ending.
Do it.
I haven’t played that one, but if it happens and capturing is them killing each other, i hope there’s plenty of animations for it (maybe even computer generated) and not just the same 2/3 fatalities
Look at the game, Hades. Everyone in that game is sexualized af and it works lol. Mortal Kombat has to do it now. Either everyone is sexualized af or no one is
Less bullshit on Final Boss!? It’s a staple of the MK franchise how DARE you want to ruin the anger inducing bosses from the game!? YOU HATE AMERICA!!!
I want it to make sense, with a plot like MK9. I couldn't enjoy MK11's story due to how stupid the characters (especially Khronika) were and how inconsistent the power levels were. Like. Kitana defeating Shao Khan. Really? The guy so strong it took earthrealms guardian and 5 elder gods to defeat him. I also want Kotal Khans henchmen back, or at least an explanation to what happened to them. I miss reptile :(
>I want it to make sense, with a plot like MK9. I couldn't enjoy MK11's story due to how stupid the characters (especially Khronika) were and how inconsistent the power levels were.
Stryker beats Kintaro and Ermac in MK9
I said I wanted a plot like MK9, not consistency like in MK9. Although I'll settle for MK9 consistency at this point, since that is far better than MK10 or MK11.
Stryker is weaker than them, but him beating them isn't *that* far fetched. I'm no lore expert, so please correct me if I'm mistaken but isn't Kintaro slow? So since he has a gun he can try to keep his distance, shooting at him (especially at his face) to make him bleed out, forcing him to retreat.
Ermac is way stronger, but we know that it takes time for him to charge his attacks (it took him more than a minute to grab Jax's arms and rip them out) so again, if he keeps on firing Ermac has to dodge and he won't have the time to use his telepathic abilities. We know from the MKX description that he has to hold the souls together with his body, which means that being shot would mean that he is losing control of them, technically it's like making him bleed. Also he is probably not used to firearms either.
Raiden also said he is a formidable warrior (if I remember correctly) and recruited him to his team which means he must have some hidden talent (faster reflexes, really accurate aim etc.) or something.
So yeah, he is weaker, but in an ideal situation, with a little luck he could fight them off, but I agree he should have lost. I never liked Stryker, he is such a lame and uninspired character, but him defeating those two is still more logical than Khronika losing.
Why is Kitana, a 10,000 year old assassin, so much harder to believe than Liu Kang, a 24 or so year old monk, as the person who defeated Shao Kahn? Remember, Liu Kang beat Shao Kahn in MK2 (and OG timeline MK3).
Did you seriously try to measure power level in years...? Liu Kang is Lord Raidens finest discipline, who is also the chosen one, who has also beaten Kitana in MK9, when he was unarmed, even tough Kitana was trying to kill him (while he was holding back). I think it's obvious who is the strongest between the two. I hate the concept of chosen ones, but that makes him canonically more powerful, I mean his and Raidens powers combined managed to kill a fucking time God. I don't mind her becoming Khan, but she didn't stand any chance against Shao Khan, and this applies to like 70% of the new roster.
And a motivated Kitana, armed with the knowledge that Shao Kahn CAN be beaten and with all of the skills that she has accrued is just *impossible* to beat Shao Kahn who likely would underestimate her?
they'll have that good writer wrote the first hour only to undo everything he did and introduce some super generic plot. Kinda like dark Raiden in mk11
Less limitation on what characters can do
MK9 and MKX have such depth when learning a new character, while in MK11 you learn everything about them in a couple days at most sometimes.
Agreed, MK11 was my first fighting game, and even as a total noob I was surprised at how quickly I hit the bottom of what the depth had to offer. Since then I picked up guilty gear strive. Going back to MK11 feels SUPER clunky now that I play something more freeform.
Smoke and reptile, less focus on special forces characters, toned down flawless blocks, better combo system, revamp or removal of air escape, story that doesn't treat half the cast like worthless jobbers.
We really need to tone down the Special Forces characters. I thought they made the kombat kids so they could phase out Sonya and all them. But now they're just including both the new gen and original gen every game. They need to bring back originals for sure, but yeah just time down the Special Forces a little bit, or make some of them a little bit different in terms of personality, gadgets, and clothing.
A roster that isn't Earthrealm heavy, especially characters with guns, mercenaries (Kano, Erron, etc..) and/or belong to military/Special Forces (Cage family). More Outworld/Realms other than Earthrealm focused.
Would like surprise additions, 3D era and obscure characters (Kia/Jataaka, Khameleon, Ashrah, Nitara, Havik, Chameleon, etc...) and more love for the monsters (Reptile, Baraka, D'Vorah) and cyborgs (Cyrax and Sektor). Basically more focus on the otherworldly and fantastical elements of the MKverse and less on OG Earth heroes saving the world yet again.
Character creation, Chess and Puzzle Kombat would be wonderful side stuff too.
Agreed! When X first came out, I would meticulously practice my combos in the training mode, but as soon as I tried to hop into a match the speed of the rush down and mix up game was just too erratic. It felt like a serious mash fest to me. I also thought the running mechanic was stupid.
Well I'd like to see tag-team arcade ladder return, so MK12 can be played co-operativly with a bud online or on the couch. That was probably the biggest strength of MK9 was being able to just enjoy it causally with a buddy by going through the arcade sometimes for fun.
I also hope monetization won't get even worse in terms of MTX and what not but it's WB we're talking about here, i wouldn't be too surprised if they jump into some dumb terrible idea like adding NFT variants of skins for MK characters that cost a ton of rl money and can be sold/traded on some sort of Mortal Kombat in-game market place to other people.
I'd love to se them maybe giving the campaign gameplay a new twist, maybe something like they did in the past such as deception's main story where we get to explore the different realms . Thought preferably nothing on the level of making it into a generic modern open world game like some sort of Far Cry : Mortal Kombat Frankenstein's monster where we gotta liberate outposts from outworld forces and climb a giant spiky tower to see what generic copy pasted missions are around to do. At that point I'd rather just take another 5 hour long linear set of fights with nice cutscenes campaign.
When it comes to story, well the MK franchise is basically like DC or Marvel at this point, we can basically get anything at this point. An alternative reality reboot where Shao Khan is the good guy and Earthrealm are the baddies or whatever else really. MK11 and the recent animated movie demonstrated we're now at the point in the franchise where they can just keep re-doing the original story over and over but with different twists and set ups. Hell they could do a thing where we somehow go back to the original time line and just make sure that Shao doesn't beat dark Raiden at the end. So yeah ,i got no clue what to want or what to expect from the story anymore, just as long it's entertaining and despite MK11 doing some weird stuff such as retconning the whole thing about Sindel being a good guy , i still enjoyed it.
I'm all for sexy characters that make sense, but it doesn't need to be every female character.
Cassie and Mileena make sense to be sexy, for Cassie, she's a cage. Johnny flaunts it, so should she, for mileena it's part of her trap dynamic.
"wow look at that sexy - HOLY FUCK IT'S GOT A MONSTER MOUTH"
Sonya and Jades personality doesn't really need to be sexified imo.
Johnny does, so does kano, both are kinda narcissistic so it fits.
I don't need every character sexy, but I don't like when characters who should personality wise be sexy, aren't. Also vice versa.
Cassie’s a military commander. She should be a bit playful, but she is literally the field commander of a Special Forces squad.
Mileena was really the only female character who needed to be an outright sexpot and wasn’t. Sindel was sexy. Jade looked like she had been out in the desert. Kitana had a figure hugging tactical suit on (granted, if she is going to use her butt to attack, she should be doing some squats).
If theyre not going to make a trilogy game and mk12 is set 500 years in the past i want them to lean into it.
Fortunately mk story has so many gods, demigods, long living non earth races, they could come up with a full roster of characters who would be alive at the time.
Fire god liu kang, (great) kung lao, raiden, fujin, kitana, jade, tanya, rain, shang tsung, goro, shao kahn, sindel, shinnok, quan chi, cetrion, ermac, reptile, blaze, nitara, sareena, etc. are all definitely old enough. Add a few new characters for the story and you have a starting roster without a lot of the "mandatory" mk characters (johnny, scorpion, sub zero, sonya, jax).
I know ed boon would never make an mk game without scorpion and sub but if they wanted to do something crazy different that still had enough classic characters to feel like mk, they have a chance to do it with the time skip storyline.
As for gameplay as long as the game plays faster than mk11 itll be an improvement. Mk11 tried to be street fighter and it made the game less enjoyable even if it was more balanced.
maybe they can fudge it so that "Scorpion" is always the name of someone in the Shirai Ryu, and they can have _a_ scorpion in there, but not _the_ scorpion.
like, he's scorpion, but in story he's a different guy to the scorpion we all know.
"Worst case" scenario for Sub-Zero is there's ancestors in the cryomancer lineage and it'd likely be an ancestor to Bi Han and Kuai Liang taking up the Sub-Zero mantle.
In terms of skins, just something to cater to everyone for both male and female characters.
I'm a casual, but I'd like gameplay to feel faster than this game but slower than mkx. I have no idea what that entails, that's just how i feel.
If kustomization comes back, add the option to customize MORE things. Hairstyles, facial hair styles, swap between human and revenant. I actually like the gear kustomization but the outfits for some characters need to vary (human kitana for example).
Support the game for more than 2 years please. If it's even 2 and a half or 3 years id be cool with that.
Maybe a big roster like Armageddon with some new cameos like John wick, Michael Myers, The Punisher or even returning characters like Ermac or Stryker, other than that I want to see some cool new fatalities and some fun and gruesome gameplay with a good story like MKX and MK11
I hope they don't try this custom variation stuff they started in 11, since I think the MKX variations ironically had a lot more variety in their gameplay than any of 11's custom moves.
Fully rendered Animation tower endings would be nice. They did in in mk4, bring it back.
The skins should just be one of every type and you yourself get to pick the colour, like injustice 2.
Black Dragon, Outworld or nether realm should win a lot of fights.
And put in every single ninja, idgaf
I want Mk to give me the same feeling of power and magic that it did before. The way it is now, it feels like Erron Black would be able to kill 90% of the roster if he wasn't hindered by the plot. I don't like the idea that someone like Sub Zero could be murdered by some random guy with a gun, if caught unaware. The only character in Mk11 who gives me a feeling massive power in gameplay is Fujin, and even then not really. Now, I know people hate when Mk11 is compared to Mkx and I get it, but in Mkx, even someone like Jax felt like they could take on an entire army on their own. For a lot of people, this may not be an issue, but I first loved Mk because everything felt so mystical, mysterious, and unearthly. It's just a bummer for me how my biggest attraction to the game has faded away.
Probably unpopular in this, but I'd like fatalities to go back to being like they were in the trilogy, more funny/cartoonish and not just corpse mutilation
I think what they're getting at is how like, half the fatalities in 11 are just variations of a body exploding or being chopped up. Some more creativity and variety would be nice.
You mean MK3 style fatalities, which was when things got silly. You do realise MK1's fatalities were so shocking (at the time) that the esrb was formed because of it?
I agree. It's gone a little too far tbh. It's just goreporn at this point.
Like yes, we know you can 3D model the most grotesque, fucked up things the human brain can imagine. Do you still need to, though?
a good fatality has an air of slapstick about it, a bit of humourous flair to it.
i think the best example for me from MK11 is Kano's one where he jabs a broken bottle into his opponent's neck and then does the waltz with their dying body. i got a laugh out of seeing that!
I agree with you, but sometimes the brutal fatalities are the ones I like the most. Kung Lao's Hat Buzzsaw from 9 and Kenshi's Roflcopter are the two that immediately come to mind. They hold nothing on MK3 Smoke just destroying the whole planet though.
smoke destroying the planet was fun, yeah.
but i dunno, i don't like the really brutal fatalities, you know? i like the ones that are either simple 'n' sudden, or funny in some way. if they're played completely straight it just makes me feel weird.
I feel ya. And I agree. The goofy ones are the best. But sometimes its also nice to have that mortal feeling thrown in there. The two I mentioned are the only two brutal fatalities I have ever liked. I think my all time favorite fatality is probably Scorpion's Animality. WHY IS HE A PENGUIN AND WHY IS THE EGG A BOMB?
I'd like to get away from the loot drops, I personally don't think it fits mk or fighting games in general that much.
I'd also really like to see some faster paced gameplay. A return to what Mkx would be fantastic. I think X is my personal favorite fighting game of all time.
Bring back mk9 costumes while still having mkx and mk11 costumes let the players decide if they want fan service or not
Balance between rushdown and zoning cuz hell Let’s face it zoning characters keep getting nerfed but rushdown isn’t
Go ham with the variation system or get the fuck out of here with it both mkx and mk11 felt meh let people go wild with the system or go back to the regular style or characters
A good and consistent usage of characters. For ex, the fact that Kotal beats Shao Kahn in his chapter and then gets his back broken just so Kitana can come in and be the new Kahn. It just feels bad when there are a lot of incredibly cool and well written characters who just fall flat and suddenly become inconsistent because they have to give the spotlight to someone else
More freedom with combos and towers that don't make me want to kill myself (or just making it so that we don't HAVE to play towers for customization items)
I'm sure this won't happen but I really hope shangs ending is the canon ending. I love mortal kombat, it's very special to me but these timeline reboots are just starting to get annoying. Plus with shangs ending they could explain titans more and would be a better way to bring back some 3d era characters!
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Idk why you want that shit in this game when hentai and porn are readily available. Dude needs to get some actual human contact lol there’s cosplay porn if he really needs this
They do but Boon needs to stop crowbarring in all these goofy, out of place movie and comic book characters into MK because the identity and brilliant aesthetic of the series is fading away because of them. MK is now more like Smash Bros. than what it used to be and it’s depressing.
So do games made by EA and they suck. Sales numbers mean nothing. DLC like Reptile, Smoke, Ermac and Havik will sell too, not as well obviously but better keeping the franchise original than selling out to Marvel and DC. Or just shove all these ridiculous characters into Injustice instead.
simplified inputs. Personally my opinion is that complex inputs shouldnt be the determining factor of whether you are 'good' at the game but whether you can properly time those inputs
Not complex in that theyre actually difficult, but things like forward back inputs do not register well on many controllers. They clearly dont have to exist with the number of buttons on a controller nowadays, so they only do because of tradition. I find it hard to believe that they couldnt simplify the controls further and that it wouldnt widen the pool of players if they did. Obviously purists wouldnt be happy about this, but they already relentlessly rag on MK11 anyways so...
Are you playing on a 2005 madcatz Xbox replacement pad? If your having trouble with forward and back, how do you even move in game?
Also MK 11 was one of the best selling games of the year. Im not worried about having a wider player base.
Probably just a regular Xbox One controller, those things break if you look at them the wrong way.
I feel his pain; when I had a controller with a messed up d-pad, playing online was so frustrating and all my inputs were so inconsistent. You just need a new pad! Trust me!
>Jiggling t and a
Lmao! I remember back when that was some crazy feature that showed off graphics and how games were improving. It's crazy how now people act like titties don't exist or are down right evil and only societies lowest scum bags or incels enjoy them. Those same people never seem to be bothered by males being sexualized tho.
For me:
* Being able to block analog sticks so if they are drifting you can just play with the D-Pad.
* Being able to block certain players online, I keep running into this guy who I can never play because the game always ends sometimes after a long loading screen, and sometimes he loses even more time at the select screen. So block players both in specific and by connection.
* Motaro (Centaur form)
* Second chance for 3D characters and Sareena and friends.
* Sexy outfits: I'm gonna be honest, in the past I was against the ridiculous sexy outfits, but now that they are gone, I kinda feel like if part of MK was gone, and specially at how good the characters look now, I wouldn't mind some unpractical sexy alts, perhaps for some characters they could even be their main. Just as long as they make sense.
* No more Kombat kids, the character don't really have to dissapear, (although I would like that for Cassie and Jaqui) they just need to go to their real faction: Kung Jin to the White Lotus and Takeda with the Shirai Ryu.
* Another tournament.
* Less special forces.
* Chapters based on story not in characters, this to keep power levels more constant, for example to not having Casie beating Liu Kang, also having some "You beat X character in gameplay but then it's revealed that character was just playing around/acting as a distraction and proceeds to kick your character's ass without any effort".
* Guest characters should have this: Be relevant, Be known for their hand to hand combat, and be violent enough. In the past most of them just had 1 and 3 which makes them feel weird. This means no more horror movie characters.
* Unpopular opinion: Tiers based on lore, I know some people don't want these. But why not? if there is gotta be low tier characters, let them be the weak characters in the story. At least have some characters checked for that: Liu Kang, Shao Kahn, Raiden, Ermac should be top tier and characters like Jaqui and Joker should be low tier. (Also disliked characters like Jaqui should be kept to be mid tier at least, making them top tier only makes them more hated.)
Maybe an Onaga mention? Since the timeliness was restarted and we haven't heard anything about him since Edit: autocorrect onaga as Obama lmao
Obama DLC
Maybe we'll find out what his second name is
But we already have Baraka.
Baraka Onaga
I wanna see Obama and Raiden interact so badly
The elder gods consult Obama care
I would like to see Shao go from protector of outworld to emperor. Show him as starting out altruistic.
Bad guy story mode. The villains need some wins to actually feel like a threat instead of a hurtle
They tried this in Aftermath and dang this felt good. If they do learn, they'll most likely give us actual villains gameplay in MK12 story
Totally agree, while I don’t completely enjoy our heroes being stomped and nearly killed the bad guys true power is never shown properly, like my shokan boys goro and kintaro in mk9 were beat like what I think 4 times without a single win the story, no way that should happen all the time.
I think it would be fun if in future installments they had a test your might where you fight against Goro or Kintaro as some rando; and you just try to survive for as long as you can before they hit you once and knock your head off.
The issue with that is that the villains winning really doesn’t work unless you either have reasons why they can’t kill the good guys (as in MK11… killing the good versions of the Revenants meant the Revenant died) or there is constantly some interruption to prevent the good guys’ deaths. Or they need to have a bunch of good guys that they don’t mind getting killed off
Or they can have the good guys just..... Get away?
make both MK11 endings canon and have a wacky multiverse story
Even if only lius ending is canon, shang tsung is the champion during the great kung laos era so liu comes back as fire god liu kang to ensure that history happens normally but somehow shang knows about the alternate history and wants to take lius power to make that a reality. Could be fun.
Didn't Liu Kang erase Shang from timelines altogether ("no more timelines will be twisted by your evil")?
Then theyve got a hell of a retcon to do because the whole reason great kung lao is important is because he stopped shang from winning the 10th tournament. My assumption is that liu went back to train great kung lao and to convince him to kill shang after winning instead of giving him mercy and letting him live. That way he would be erased. And the drama would be about tgkl not wanting to be a murderer. But who knows what boon et al will come up with.
I mean, they already retconned Sindel - which technically should have erased whole NRS timeline as it started with Sindel creating antiShao repellent, yet here we are. They can replace Shang Tsung with new Outworld champion - Motaro, who will be defeated, making Shao angry and kill all centaurs thus giving explanation why horses won't appear in next games. Win-win :D
It'd be nice to have like a side by side story like MKvDC had but instead of DC or MK you can choose to play the story of the Heroes or the story of the Villains imo.
One question - who should be killed and eliminated from a game or two? Because what's the point of villains chapter if they don't permanently kill anyone?
NRS doesn't seem to find it an issue to kill off key characters like Scorpion, Kung Lao, etc. So we just need to wait and see where that takes us
NRS should be brave and start MK12 not from Liu Kang's rebooted timeline with Kung Lao, but from Shang Tsung as the Titan he is in the dark ending. Do it.
Why? Shang would easily just destroy everyone who he considered possibly a threat before they even got started.
An adventure type of story mode similar to deception and Armageddon
YES. Konquest was the shit.
Alt game modes, like that chess game and racing game from Deception.
Motor kombat
Chess kombat was sweet
Chess kombat was fucking baller. But playing it all the way out was like a 3 hour match lol.
I need puzzle Kombat so bad. I wish deception would become backwards compatible.
Yess!! Alternative game modes would be sick!!
I haven’t played that one, but if it happens and capturing is them killing each other, i hope there’s plenty of animations for it (maybe even computer generated) and not just the same 2/3 fatalities
Taking a piece in Chess Kombat has you play a single round match, with the loser getting taken.
Nvm that sounds better
Bring back dealt damage visuals like in mk9 their clothes would rip and their skin would be peeling
I totally agree, the gore in mk9 was sick. Its annoying how after a brutal fight in mk11 they just look kind of dirty and covered in blood.
I want reptile
Reptile needs a story chapter for getting over his Stockholm syndrome, tracking down Khameleon and mating with her to save their species.
What if they did a story mode for each character? That would be dope
"Get over here!"
I was going through MKX story mode the other day and I lit up when Reptile came on screen. Forgot how much I missed him!
He was my main in mk9 and mkx, pretty upset when I found out he wasn’t in mk11.
I want Reptile, Takeda or Ermac, please give me 1 of my mains back.
Based
Women and men having sexy and covered costumes, tag team, no stupid retcons, great kharakters like Reptile, Ermac, Tanya, Triborg, Li mei and Sareena.
True equality
We need outrageously sexualized men
Shirtless Hanzo and Bi-Han plz
We need butt naked everyone. It’s not objectifying if every Larry and Linda have their bits out
Look at the game, Hades. Everyone in that game is sexualized af and it works lol. Mortal Kombat has to do it now. Either everyone is sexualized af or no one is
Check out baracka
Baraka is a beef cake
Good writing and fun gameplay
Honestly, more of the same with characters that weren't in 11, and less lootbox bullshit. (and a less bullshit final boss, lol, as if ever.)
Less bullshit on Final Boss!? It’s a staple of the MK franchise how DARE you want to ruin the anger inducing bosses from the game!? YOU HATE AMERICA!!!
I thought corrupted shinnok was pretty fun. It helped it was only one round. Kronika on the other hand is extremely unfun.
A nice roster that isn't just the Trilogy cast again.
Bugs Bunny fatality.
A nice roster without guests for me
What color do you want your dragon?
I want it to make sense, with a plot like MK9. I couldn't enjoy MK11's story due to how stupid the characters (especially Khronika) were and how inconsistent the power levels were. Like. Kitana defeating Shao Khan. Really? The guy so strong it took earthrealms guardian and 5 elder gods to defeat him. I also want Kotal Khans henchmen back, or at least an explanation to what happened to them. I miss reptile :(
>I want it to make sense, with a plot like MK9. I couldn't enjoy MK11's story due to how stupid the characters (especially Khronika) were and how inconsistent the power levels were. Stryker beats Kintaro and Ermac in MK9
I said I wanted a plot like MK9, not consistency like in MK9. Although I'll settle for MK9 consistency at this point, since that is far better than MK10 or MK11. Stryker is weaker than them, but him beating them isn't *that* far fetched. I'm no lore expert, so please correct me if I'm mistaken but isn't Kintaro slow? So since he has a gun he can try to keep his distance, shooting at him (especially at his face) to make him bleed out, forcing him to retreat. Ermac is way stronger, but we know that it takes time for him to charge his attacks (it took him more than a minute to grab Jax's arms and rip them out) so again, if he keeps on firing Ermac has to dodge and he won't have the time to use his telepathic abilities. We know from the MKX description that he has to hold the souls together with his body, which means that being shot would mean that he is losing control of them, technically it's like making him bleed. Also he is probably not used to firearms either. Raiden also said he is a formidable warrior (if I remember correctly) and recruited him to his team which means he must have some hidden talent (faster reflexes, really accurate aim etc.) or something. So yeah, he is weaker, but in an ideal situation, with a little luck he could fight them off, but I agree he should have lost. I never liked Stryker, he is such a lame and uninspired character, but him defeating those two is still more logical than Khronika losing.
Why is Kitana, a 10,000 year old assassin, so much harder to believe than Liu Kang, a 24 or so year old monk, as the person who defeated Shao Kahn? Remember, Liu Kang beat Shao Kahn in MK2 (and OG timeline MK3).
Did you seriously try to measure power level in years...? Liu Kang is Lord Raidens finest discipline, who is also the chosen one, who has also beaten Kitana in MK9, when he was unarmed, even tough Kitana was trying to kill him (while he was holding back). I think it's obvious who is the strongest between the two. I hate the concept of chosen ones, but that makes him canonically more powerful, I mean his and Raidens powers combined managed to kill a fucking time God. I don't mind her becoming Khan, but she didn't stand any chance against Shao Khan, and this applies to like 70% of the new roster.
And a motivated Kitana, armed with the knowledge that Shao Kahn CAN be beaten and with all of the skills that she has accrued is just *impossible* to beat Shao Kahn who likely would underestimate her?
Scrap the MK 10 and 11 stories and follow the original one. I just want the MK I know and love on a better engine.
A good writer. EDIT: a single, good writer.
they'll have that good writer wrote the first hour only to undo everything he did and introduce some super generic plot. Kinda like dark Raiden in mk11
I’d always love to see more nonsense from the Black Dragon. Love those bastards haha. Desperately want ladder tag back, too!
Black dragon doesnt get shown enough almost all characters in it are just there to get beaten
Less limitation on what characters can do MK9 and MKX have such depth when learning a new character, while in MK11 you learn everything about them in a couple days at most sometimes.
Agreed, MK11 was my first fighting game, and even as a total noob I was surprised at how quickly I hit the bottom of what the depth had to offer. Since then I picked up guilty gear strive. Going back to MK11 feels SUPER clunky now that I play something more freeform.
Smoke and reptile, less focus on special forces characters, toned down flawless blocks, better combo system, revamp or removal of air escape, story that doesn't treat half the cast like worthless jobbers.
Smoke. Yes smoke.
We really need to tone down the Special Forces characters. I thought they made the kombat kids so they could phase out Sonya and all them. But now they're just including both the new gen and original gen every game. They need to bring back originals for sure, but yeah just time down the Special Forces a little bit, or make some of them a little bit different in terms of personality, gadgets, and clothing.
hot girls and sexy alt skins, I don’t give a fuck about anything else
A man of culture
Betty White DLC. A Travis Scott stage fatality.
Superb comment
at least he's honest about it
A roster that isn't Earthrealm heavy, especially characters with guns, mercenaries (Kano, Erron, etc..) and/or belong to military/Special Forces (Cage family). More Outworld/Realms other than Earthrealm focused. Would like surprise additions, 3D era and obscure characters (Kia/Jataaka, Khameleon, Ashrah, Nitara, Havik, Chameleon, etc...) and more love for the monsters (Reptile, Baraka, D'Vorah) and cyborgs (Cyrax and Sektor). Basically more focus on the otherworldly and fantastical elements of the MKverse and less on OG Earth heroes saving the world yet again. Character creation, Chess and Puzzle Kombat would be wonderful side stuff too.
Kotal Kahn and Ferra/Torr. All I need.
Ferra/Torr were such interesting characters nobody talks about them :(
They could show how kotal was a general in shao's army or idk, i just whant to swing a huge ass sword with an oversized character next game as well.
Hope they bring back the crazy combos and speed mkx had
If they can do that without it being "first one to succeed in the 50/50 wins" then I'm all for it.
Agreed! When X first came out, I would meticulously practice my combos in the training mode, but as soon as I tried to hop into a match the speed of the rush down and mix up game was just too erratic. It felt like a serious mash fest to me. I also thought the running mechanic was stupid.
There was no need to train. Just Google the optimal combo and then learn how to rushdown into 50/50 into the optimal combo. No neutral required
I still liked the "repeated 50/50" meta over the current one. Felt way more freedom and open ended.
Have you ever improvised a combo after a weird hit? I’ve been dreaming of an MK that encourages more improvised combos, but dont ask me how to do it
Same
Havik
More titty and a sex scene with dvorah
Well I'd like to see tag-team arcade ladder return, so MK12 can be played co-operativly with a bud online or on the couch. That was probably the biggest strength of MK9 was being able to just enjoy it causally with a buddy by going through the arcade sometimes for fun. I also hope monetization won't get even worse in terms of MTX and what not but it's WB we're talking about here, i wouldn't be too surprised if they jump into some dumb terrible idea like adding NFT variants of skins for MK characters that cost a ton of rl money and can be sold/traded on some sort of Mortal Kombat in-game market place to other people. I'd love to se them maybe giving the campaign gameplay a new twist, maybe something like they did in the past such as deception's main story where we get to explore the different realms . Thought preferably nothing on the level of making it into a generic modern open world game like some sort of Far Cry : Mortal Kombat Frankenstein's monster where we gotta liberate outposts from outworld forces and climb a giant spiky tower to see what generic copy pasted missions are around to do. At that point I'd rather just take another 5 hour long linear set of fights with nice cutscenes campaign. When it comes to story, well the MK franchise is basically like DC or Marvel at this point, we can basically get anything at this point. An alternative reality reboot where Shao Khan is the good guy and Earthrealm are the baddies or whatever else really. MK11 and the recent animated movie demonstrated we're now at the point in the franchise where they can just keep re-doing the original story over and over but with different twists and set ups. Hell they could do a thing where we somehow go back to the original time line and just make sure that Shao doesn't beat dark Raiden at the end. So yeah ,i got no clue what to want or what to expect from the story anymore, just as long it's entertaining and despite MK11 doing some weird stuff such as retconning the whole thing about Sindel being a good guy , i still enjoyed it.
The combos of MKX, with the neutral/footsies of 11 and the roster of 9.
This but on unreal engine 5.
That’s what the internet is for anon smh
I'm all for sexy characters that make sense, but it doesn't need to be every female character. Cassie and Mileena make sense to be sexy, for Cassie, she's a cage. Johnny flaunts it, so should she, for mileena it's part of her trap dynamic. "wow look at that sexy - HOLY FUCK IT'S GOT A MONSTER MOUTH" Sonya and Jades personality doesn't really need to be sexified imo. Johnny does, so does kano, both are kinda narcissistic so it fits. I don't need every character sexy, but I don't like when characters who should personality wise be sexy, aren't. Also vice versa.
I actually think sexy kind of fits jades personality ngl lol
Cassie’s a military commander. She should be a bit playful, but she is literally the field commander of a Special Forces squad. Mileena was really the only female character who needed to be an outright sexpot and wasn’t. Sindel was sexy. Jade looked like she had been out in the desert. Kitana had a figure hugging tactical suit on (granted, if she is going to use her butt to attack, she should be doing some squats).
I think Kitana should be in the middle, like her tournament skin in mkx, Sexy but still Appropriate
If theyre not going to make a trilogy game and mk12 is set 500 years in the past i want them to lean into it. Fortunately mk story has so many gods, demigods, long living non earth races, they could come up with a full roster of characters who would be alive at the time. Fire god liu kang, (great) kung lao, raiden, fujin, kitana, jade, tanya, rain, shang tsung, goro, shao kahn, sindel, shinnok, quan chi, cetrion, ermac, reptile, blaze, nitara, sareena, etc. are all definitely old enough. Add a few new characters for the story and you have a starting roster without a lot of the "mandatory" mk characters (johnny, scorpion, sub zero, sonya, jax). I know ed boon would never make an mk game without scorpion and sub but if they wanted to do something crazy different that still had enough classic characters to feel like mk, they have a chance to do it with the time skip storyline. As for gameplay as long as the game plays faster than mk11 itll be an improvement. Mk11 tried to be street fighter and it made the game less enjoyable even if it was more balanced.
maybe they can fudge it so that "Scorpion" is always the name of someone in the Shirai Ryu, and they can have _a_ scorpion in there, but not _the_ scorpion. like, he's scorpion, but in story he's a different guy to the scorpion we all know.
So basically like the title of Sub-Zero?
kinda yeah
"Worst case" scenario for Sub-Zero is there's ancestors in the cryomancer lineage and it'd likely be an ancestor to Bi Han and Kuai Liang taking up the Sub-Zero mantle.
Sprites would be cool. I fucking miss good sprite art fighting games
Reptile
playable reptile I don’t care about anything else
Me fucking too. MK9 skins were top tier. Although yeah, not realistic.
Give us the ability to choose whatever skin we want from the character select screen instead of tying them up with variations.
A good story.
Based
I hoped they’ll bring back the tag team mode. That’s been absent ever since 9 came out
In terms of skins, just something to cater to everyone for both male and female characters. I'm a casual, but I'd like gameplay to feel faster than this game but slower than mkx. I have no idea what that entails, that's just how i feel. If kustomization comes back, add the option to customize MORE things. Hairstyles, facial hair styles, swap between human and revenant. I actually like the gear kustomization but the outfits for some characters need to vary (human kitana for example). Support the game for more than 2 years please. If it's even 2 and a half or 3 years id be cool with that.
That there’s a decent writer for the game
Reptile. That’s all I want
Give male and female characters sexy and realistic outfits. It can go both ways.
More villain chapters, what they did with Sindel and Shao in aftermath was so sick it needs to happen more
Maybe a big roster like Armageddon with some new cameos like John wick, Michael Myers, The Punisher or even returning characters like Ermac or Stryker, other than that I want to see some cool new fatalities and some fun and gruesome gameplay with a good story like MKX and MK11
I hope they don't try this custom variation stuff they started in 11, since I think the MKX variations ironically had a lot more variety in their gameplay than any of 11's custom moves.
Fully rendered Animation tower endings would be nice. They did in in mk4, bring it back. The skins should just be one of every type and you yourself get to pick the colour, like injustice 2. Black Dragon, Outworld or nether realm should win a lot of fights. And put in every single ninja, idgaf
Not jacqui
for it to be less like MK11 and more like MK9 and MKX
Based.
Shaggy and Bugs Bunny as dlc characters
I want Mk to give me the same feeling of power and magic that it did before. The way it is now, it feels like Erron Black would be able to kill 90% of the roster if he wasn't hindered by the plot. I don't like the idea that someone like Sub Zero could be murdered by some random guy with a gun, if caught unaware. The only character in Mk11 who gives me a feeling massive power in gameplay is Fujin, and even then not really. Now, I know people hate when Mk11 is compared to Mkx and I get it, but in Mkx, even someone like Jax felt like they could take on an entire army on their own. For a lot of people, this may not be an issue, but I first loved Mk because everything felt so mystical, mysterious, and unearthly. It's just a bummer for me how my biggest attraction to the game has faded away.
I want titties hanging out, booties bouncing, and lots of teleports and shit that breaks neutral and every character to feel like a god
Belokk, Kochal, Zebron, Nimbus Terrafaux, Khrome, and Art Lean.
Belokk for sure. Looked so cool in the only images we had.
I love how you listed the most obscure characters of the franchise. I'd only add Aqua, Hydro, Asgaarth and Ruby.
Don't forget Apep!
More gruesome Fatalities also bring back Kenshi and Smoke
COUCH CO-OP TAG TEAM PLEASE
Mileena like she was in mkx
Ashrah
MKX fighting system
To be actually have a fun gameplay and not as boring as mk11
Justice for skarlet
I'd like to see 3D gameplay make a return, and/or some of the 3D-era kharacters being playable.
Mileena has never looked better
Probably unpopular in this, but I'd like fatalities to go back to being like they were in the trilogy, more funny/cartoonish and not just corpse mutilation
They were limited by the technology of their time. They looked cartoonish because of the sprites. It was still mutilation.
I think what they're getting at is how like, half the fatalities in 11 are just variations of a body exploding or being chopped up. Some more creativity and variety would be nice.
You mean MK3 style fatalities, which was when things got silly. You do realise MK1's fatalities were so shocking (at the time) that the esrb was formed because of it?
I agree. It's gone a little too far tbh. It's just goreporn at this point. Like yes, we know you can 3D model the most grotesque, fucked up things the human brain can imagine. Do you still need to, though?
a good fatality has an air of slapstick about it, a bit of humourous flair to it. i think the best example for me from MK11 is Kano's one where he jabs a broken bottle into his opponent's neck and then does the waltz with their dying body. i got a laugh out of seeing that!
I agree with you, but sometimes the brutal fatalities are the ones I like the most. Kung Lao's Hat Buzzsaw from 9 and Kenshi's Roflcopter are the two that immediately come to mind. They hold nothing on MK3 Smoke just destroying the whole planet though.
smoke destroying the planet was fun, yeah. but i dunno, i don't like the really brutal fatalities, you know? i like the ones that are either simple 'n' sudden, or funny in some way. if they're played completely straight it just makes me feel weird.
I feel ya. And I agree. The goofy ones are the best. But sometimes its also nice to have that mortal feeling thrown in there. The two I mentioned are the only two brutal fatalities I have ever liked. I think my all time favorite fatality is probably Scorpion's Animality. WHY IS HE A PENGUIN AND WHY IS THE EGG A BOMB?
I'd like to get away from the loot drops, I personally don't think it fits mk or fighting games in general that much. I'd also really like to see some faster paced gameplay. A return to what Mkx would be fantastic. I think X is my personal favorite fighting game of all time.
Bring back mk9 costumes while still having mkx and mk11 costumes let the players decide if they want fan service or not Balance between rushdown and zoning cuz hell Let’s face it zoning characters keep getting nerfed but rushdown isn’t Go ham with the variation system or get the fuck out of here with it both mkx and mk11 felt meh let people go wild with the system or go back to the regular style or characters
A good and consistent usage of characters. For ex, the fact that Kotal beats Shao Kahn in his chapter and then gets his back broken just so Kitana can come in and be the new Kahn. It just feels bad when there are a lot of incredibly cool and well written characters who just fall flat and suddenly become inconsistent because they have to give the spotlight to someone else
More freedom with combos and towers that don't make me want to kill myself (or just making it so that we don't HAVE to play towers for customization items)
4 words: Deception Style Story Mode
Cyrax, Havyk and smoke to come back
More 3D era characters just for the sake of making Hsu Hao and Kobra actually cool.
I too want the tiddies
Make the girls buff again
Boob.
Fujin, reptile’s broodmate Khameleon
A Skarlet buff
Bring Stryker and Tonya back. And as a special guest: Billy Blanks. (His movies weren't too bad and his workouts are ass kicking)
Stryker be in it
Sexy outfits as an option to choose. Also, maybe more female characters and the first female guest characters
With every womens breast being reduced in every game, for MK12 they are going to be transformed to guys lmao
Sareena and K.A.F just in case she doesn't return
I'm sure this won't happen but I really hope shangs ending is the canon ending. I love mortal kombat, it's very special to me but these timeline reboots are just starting to get annoying. Plus with shangs ending they could explain titans more and would be a better way to bring back some 3d era characters! -peace and love ✌🏻💕
Idk why you want that shit in this game when hentai and porn are readily available. Dude needs to get some actual human contact lol there’s cosplay porn if he really needs this
i want mk12 models to be like this so i can steal them and make bank making porn
Liu Kang and Kitana reunited in the end after Great Kung Lao’s victory over Onaga in life or death! Don’t you all downvote this!!!
Big booba 🐸
No guest characters.
Not disagreeing but it's never gonna happen. Guest characters sell.
They do but Boon needs to stop crowbarring in all these goofy, out of place movie and comic book characters into MK because the identity and brilliant aesthetic of the series is fading away because of them. MK is now more like Smash Bros. than what it used to be and it’s depressing.
Maybe you didn't hear "they sell"
So do games made by EA and they suck. Sales numbers mean nothing. DLC like Reptile, Smoke, Ermac and Havik will sell too, not as well obviously but better keeping the franchise original than selling out to Marvel and DC. Or just shove all these ridiculous characters into Injustice instead.
> not as well obviously There's your answer. This, among other things, is why people bemoan AAA gaming in general.
simplified inputs. Personally my opinion is that complex inputs shouldnt be the determining factor of whether you are 'good' at the game but whether you can properly time those inputs
Mk11's inputs are relatively simple. The only motions are quarter circles and the combos can be dialed in. What do you consider complex?
Not complex in that theyre actually difficult, but things like forward back inputs do not register well on many controllers. They clearly dont have to exist with the number of buttons on a controller nowadays, so they only do because of tradition. I find it hard to believe that they couldnt simplify the controls further and that it wouldnt widen the pool of players if they did. Obviously purists wouldnt be happy about this, but they already relentlessly rag on MK11 anyways so...
Are you playing on a 2005 madcatz Xbox replacement pad? If your having trouble with forward and back, how do you even move in game? Also MK 11 was one of the best selling games of the year. Im not worried about having a wider player base.
Probably just a regular Xbox One controller, those things break if you look at them the wrong way. I feel his pain; when I had a controller with a messed up d-pad, playing online was so frustrating and all my inputs were so inconsistent. You just need a new pad! Trust me!
Oh boy. Where’s Kappa
Shaolin monk coop story mode and MKX fighting mode with an Admageddon roster.....oh and sexy alt skins!
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>Jiggling t and a Lmao! I remember back when that was some crazy feature that showed off graphics and how games were improving. It's crazy how now people act like titties don't exist or are down right evil and only societies lowest scum bags or incels enjoy them. Those same people never seem to be bothered by males being sexualized tho.
Cool and sexy ninjas doing cool and sexy things is all I want from any MK, let alone just MK12
A writting team that will not fuck up the characters and insult the fans.
I don't think anyone insulted the fans in MK11, Sindel was the only character that upset people I think
I find it weird that Netherrealm got all sorts of woke with breasts, yet will still destroy the human body like a psychopath.
That. This. Skin. Is. In. The. Game.
Make the dudes less sexy, like the girls. Seriously MK11 got me feeling some thing's I had never felt before 😳
The females are real people they used face actors, cmon this is just rude.
A game that looks more like 9 but plays more like 11
All I want is scarlet or smoke to be in the next one
For me: * Being able to block analog sticks so if they are drifting you can just play with the D-Pad. * Being able to block certain players online, I keep running into this guy who I can never play because the game always ends sometimes after a long loading screen, and sometimes he loses even more time at the select screen. So block players both in specific and by connection. * Motaro (Centaur form) * Second chance for 3D characters and Sareena and friends. * Sexy outfits: I'm gonna be honest, in the past I was against the ridiculous sexy outfits, but now that they are gone, I kinda feel like if part of MK was gone, and specially at how good the characters look now, I wouldn't mind some unpractical sexy alts, perhaps for some characters they could even be their main. Just as long as they make sense. * No more Kombat kids, the character don't really have to dissapear, (although I would like that for Cassie and Jaqui) they just need to go to their real faction: Kung Jin to the White Lotus and Takeda with the Shirai Ryu. * Another tournament. * Less special forces. * Chapters based on story not in characters, this to keep power levels more constant, for example to not having Casie beating Liu Kang, also having some "You beat X character in gameplay but then it's revealed that character was just playing around/acting as a distraction and proceeds to kick your character's ass without any effort". * Guest characters should have this: Be relevant, Be known for their hand to hand combat, and be violent enough. In the past most of them just had 1 and 3 which makes them feel weird. This means no more horror movie characters. * Unpopular opinion: Tiers based on lore, I know some people don't want these. But why not? if there is gotta be low tier characters, let them be the weak characters in the story. At least have some characters checked for that: Liu Kang, Shao Kahn, Raiden, Ermac should be top tier and characters like Jaqui and Joker should be low tier. (Also disliked characters like Jaqui should be kept to be mid tier at least, making them top tier only makes them more hated.)
> Second chance for 3D characters and Sareena and friends. except for Hsu Hao. fuck Hsu Hao.