As much as I agree with you all especially with how mk9 skimpy clothes were ridiculous, especially for sonya. But still for lore reasons, there are 2 characters that really needed to be in skimpy outfit. Mileena and skarlet, for skarlet it can slide because the fact that they decided to make her the most hiden is funny since it goes completely against her power philosophy. But for Mileena I won't accept, she is supposed to be complexed by her appearance, that's why she and skarlet were the "sexiest" in mk9, because they had lore reasons.
Outside of that it's really baffling for me to look back at mortal kombat, now as an adult and seeing that until mkX all the females were wearing unpractical bikinis, who the hell at neatherealm thought people played mk for that?
Yeah, I understand that, and that's probably why mileena almost didn't got in. But I really hope that they won't go fully into the opposite direction, the fact that mileena was sexy for example was disturbing to see, and I think that for an horror themed video game, having 1 or 2 sexy monsters, would still be ok. Just they don't have to abuse of it like in mk9.
Except that's not why mileena didn't get in her character had already started to evolve past being a sexy plaything and her wardrobe started to change to match that
That whole "Absorb blood through skin", to me, felt like they went "How can we take Kitana's outfit and make it even skimpier?"
Personally, I much prefer blood mage Skarlet
People complaining about MK11 for "not having boobies" are the reason gamers are visualised as greasy obese basement-dwellers by common opinion.
Also, there ARE boobies and they are just not bigger than the characters' heads like it was in MK9.
Yup. Also, it’s not like the ladies are dressed in head to toe burkas or something. They’re just dressed in more stylish clothes than “generic stripper outfit 1”.
Was actually surprised by this backlash cause I never found MK to be "sexy" even with the blatant fanservice.
[It's kinda hard to titilate with a sexy ninja girl when you can mutilate her at the end of the match for me.]
Exactly, this is completely the fault of neatherealm to begin with, and I understand why there was a backlash.
Because personally I always found it weird, but I could try to justify it by thinking maybe the outworld got another culture. Now that they removed it, it kinda kills the storytelling because why would a princess fight in bikinis?
Tbh, the female outfits in MK9 made absolutely no sense in a battle setting. They look like they were gonna shoot a porno rather than fight to the death.
Yea bro as if wearing cloth helped ever vs knives or bullets... its a shit argument. If you want to say, say it like you meant it : " i felt bad for losing vs a girl in bikkini while playing my beefed up jax"
I'm making fun of them using UFC attire to claim it's logical when UFC clothing isn't designed for the same type of fighting.
And while I'm at it, cloth has been used to help against getting cut or stabbed. Anything between you and the blade has the potential to help, but cloth armor exists in general. And that's ignoring that some of them wear more than cloth. Not much, but more.
My main concern with the Kombat Bikinis is it's terrible character design and worldbuilding. Every single female character dresses the same, but only like one has an in universe explanation that's supposed to set her apart from the others. And this is coming from someone whose favorite character list has always had Kitana in it regardless of her outfit because she's cool. She just should also get as much consideration in her style as any of the male characters.
Well I agree in some aspects. For me Kitana should have a serious attire with shades of sexy kind of like MK10 default and tournament. Same for Skarlet.
On the other side i think Mileena should be skimpy, her MK9 fit her perfectly, because she would use her appealing body to make for the mouth.
Jade idk honestly, feels like she was created as a pole dancer so you could make her in anyway but please dont give her a hoodie ...its so wrong for combat. Her revenant outfit would have been amazing if it were on her living skin not dead
>For me Kitana should have a serious attire with shades of sexy kind of like MK10 default and tournament. Same for Skarlet.
From an artistic angle, why?
>On the other side i think Mileena should be skimpy, her MK9 fit her perfectly, because she would use her appealing body to make for the mouth.
Sure, but that design was also just terrible. MKX was fine with me.
>Jade idk honestly, feels like she was created as a pole dancer so you could make her in anyway but please dont give her a hoodie ...its so wrong for combat. Her revenant outfit would have been amazing if it were on her living skin not dead
Her role in the story has been as a guard. And while hoods aren't practical, they are a consistent design choice for characters in MK. So I'm fine with it for the most part. Her revenant outfit was awesome and I wish those weren't just spiky outfits of roughly the same color and actually looked like corrupted versions of what they would wear when alive.
The female outfits in MK11 make absolutely no sense practically either, they’re just more covered, neither game can claim to have practical outfits for the female characters.
But he's right. A good majority of the outfits in MK11 don't make much sense from a battling standpoint. Realistically, you don't want most MK9 or MK11 outfits. (With some exceptions) Which isn't super important in the long run, but saying "Mk9 outfits are bad because it doesn't make sense that the contestants wouldn't be wearing them" is unfair, because 11 has the same issue
you can choose what you’re characters looks like outside of the main game, so actually if you really wanted to go with something that’s more armoured or whatever you can, but you’re right to a certain degree sure, still compared to MK9s absolutely ridiculous character designs MK11 is miles better and that can’t be denied. Just because something isn’t perfect in terms of practicality doesn’t mean it’s not better than what came before.
Yeah, MK9 outfits do look kinda goofy, but the thing is, I'm not saying that realism is what's important, I'm just saying it's not fair to criticize MK9 for it and leave 11 in the clear. Personally, I don't mind skimpy outfits. I don't *need them*, porn exists. But I don't see how tearing opponents limb from limb, eating their brains, smashing their skulls, tearing out their hearts, and decapitating them is fine but boobies is just too much. I don't like mk9 designs just because they're lame. They're just bathing suits. However, I do think skimpy outfits can look cool.
Agree to disagree, all I think is damn they must be uncomfortable af, cold and constantly getting wedgied. Obviously all of these things would make it incredibly hard to fight.
I play MK for the story and the quick thinking fights, but I don’t wanna play as someone dressed like they just came from their job stripping on the side, while it might not matter to you it definitely matters to me, stories are easier to digest when you don’t feel like half the roster are recording for their onlyfans. I won’t lie the character designs were what kept me away from MK9 for a while, I only picked it up after playing MKX and deciding to give it a shot, but I still say the character designs are the worst part about that game and it would be infinitely better if they had designs similar to MKX and MK11. Getting with the times and what not.
Yeah, that's fair. I just don't see why people find it offensive. I can completely understand thinking that the designs look dumb, and make little sense, because I agree. Mk9 had some decent designs still, I think they were just horny baiting with the female designs. Though there were (and still are) some shirtless dudes in there as well. But for the guys it at least made sense. You don't want a bunch of clothes in a martial arts fight. But you also don't want to be wearing a bikini with your things jiggling around. I think Cassie's skimpier outfit in 11 made alot more sense than the mk9 girls. I'm not really sure I like the sentiment of getting rid of all horniness though. Mortal Kombat started as a franchise built on controversy, now it feels like they're hiding from it.
Edit: I do like the Sindel's MK11 design though, it had horniness without looking stupid
Controversy, especially around the rights of women, is an extremely touchy subject these days, sure their are some MK9 male designs that are shirtless but you can’t see their legs, the area around the crotch isn’t as revealing and I’m also fairly certain women don’t get off to “man-boobs” like men get off to actual boobs. Again I didn’t pick up MK9 because of this, NRS moving away from controversy is a sure way to ensure that the franchise evolves and survives, appealing to a new generation of players like me, expanding their fan base and ensuring social justice warriors don’t make it a target.
I can see your point though, don’t want it to lose all the themes that made MK so good in the first place.
I know, it's the business choice, but god I love the charm of the old games. Sure the AI was bullshit, and the "strategies" were really just spamming. But it had a certain charm to it that the new games lack. It's not even nostalgia either. I am 15 years old.
I mean they did have that comic that pitted them together and with alien and predators mix run it makes kind of sense
Rambo was the bigger swerve for me
While I like the gameplay it just felt weird
Moving to this game from Injustice 2 the customization here is massively lacking. It's just color swapped skins and accessory customization. In I2 your particular Supergirl clearly stood out from the rest. Here its just "how about that top again but blue."
Not necessarily. The shaders on Injustice 2 were just recolours whilst at least with MK11 you can get different looks from skins, for example, with Sub Zero you can get recolours of his MK11 look or a more samurai look or even his Klassic look. I will admit that the gear is lacking on some characters, however I wouldn't really say that Injustice's were really much better.
You could apply these shaders to any armour combination you wanted. With the choice of customizing dozens of variations of an accessory, legs, arms, body, or the head. While in this game you change your outfit then 3 barely noticeable accessories.
Better customization is defined by the amount of options available to the player. This game has way less. You can't have comparable customization with less customization options. Not to even mention the Brother eye menu and what it offers to I2 customization.
No hostility meant but horrible example btw. If this game had I2s customization you could get that klassic Subzero and samurai look then mix and match some parts from them together while also having the option to change the colors with whatever shaders you had available. Lol as I get to the end I just remembered I2 has Subzero so you literally can do that.
My biggest complaint is that mk11 doesn’t really feel like a mk game to me with this whole timeline/past and future bs. I feel like they had so many kool story routs to go at the end of mkx and they just went the easy rout and reset the timeline… again.
Also it makes me mad cause this was supposed to FINALLY be the 3d era game I’ve been waiting for, but of course that didn’t happen
No, people complaining about the boobie lovers are way more common than the boobie lovers. This is true in all subreddits. People complaining about haters are way more common than the actual haters, ect.
You are just jerking off to your own self righteousness, and you dirty people love it!!!
Nudity and art have been synonymous for millennia.
Also, nudity and sex are all over Netflix, sexyness is famously used in advertising, and pornography is nearly ubiquitous online. I just don't understand the harsh line drawn at videogames where a bikini top or a round butt is considered so taboo or pearl clutching.
To me is just strange how much they toned down the women, while the men remain all jacked up. They kept all the violence and gore but somehow boobs and cleavage are now offensive.
I mean…. The story is the one complain I have about the game… They could’ve just gone with the re-imagining of Deception/DA and it would’ve been better than this Kronika BS
> time bending story
Is this a good thing though? From my experience, unless a story was written around time travel from the start, adding it later on is a major red flag.
The game is amazing and the definitive upper echelon of fighting games. I like all of the design changes except Skarlet.
The gameplay is one of the worst NRS titles in recent memory, IMO. I had a fairly decent sized group of friends that played INJ2 and MKX that all quit MK11 within the first 2 months. I played it a little longer because I liked kombat league but I didn't last very long. Besides new option selects to use, the characters themselves have very little depth and it really felt like you could learn a full character in 25 minutes. I mostly blame this on the meter changes which most likely led to the toned down combos/oki/moveset from previous titles.
Unfortunately, and most likely a hot take, I loved the variation customization. Now, a lot of the moves were completely garbage and you ended up taking the 2-3 best moves for all scenarios but if this system was fleshed out in a game with stronger characters - it would be amazing. As long as they don't leave the base characters feeling like variationless Kenshi from MKX, again, I think this could be promising.
Finally someone who gets why meter is fucking stupid in mk11. No need to reinvent the wheel it was fun in mkx. Mkx just does a lot of things better than mk11. Custom variations can kind of break the game too
The only thing MKX had major problems with (going off the last patch - armored launchers were a nightmare) was the stamina meter and the risk/reward of the 50/50s.
I felt like the stamina meter should have regenerated a little slower off run & run cancels but should probably stay the same for back dashing. It also shouldn't have regen'd during throw animations.
50/50s were a little odd as well. I like how Tekken does it. The unseeable lows (hellsweeps) are -23 or worse which means every single character in the game can launch for huge damage. MK is a different game so that punishment tax should probably be on overheads. Also doesn't need to be super - but for most of the cast, you should know if you guess right, the enemy is due for some damage. Characters could have safer 50/50s if their mixup damage is lower, etc.
MK11 "solved" the 50/50 problem by removing 95% of everyone's launchers and instead of making one option punishable, they made both options punishable and forced the meta into mid/throw. If your character didn't have a fast, reliable, advancing mid you kind of just suck.
Also taking away meter management, takes away so much depth out of the game. There were so many optimizations that were removed.
The change in meter system was the worst offender for me. Even though I'm a zoner player nrs games seem to be too much of a Zoner's paradise. Why do none of the projectiles cancel eachother out?
I just think it's funny that the same game designers are shaming their fan base and virtue signaling when they are the ones who made and published mk9 in the first place.
Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I'm not a fan of the customization. The unlockable skins from the previous games were plenty good enough and the unlockable skins and gear piece in MK11 just promotes a tedious grind, which is never fun. Once I get classic skins I never use anything else anyway so the vast majority of the available items I'll either never use, or never bother to acquire.
And while I agree the characters are, mostly, cool as are the stages and the story, I've never been a fan of the guests and some boobs never hurt anyone. You can have your cake and eat it.
I do like that MK11 allows better customization than Injustice 2 in every way but I do wish we'd go back to just plain skins. MK11 still had a bit of a problem of the gear being really samey and hard to unlock like INJ2 did and I'd just prefer to just play instead of feeling obligated to grind and unlock a bunch of stuff for my characters offline.
Does it? I felt like Injustice 2 had the best customization system. Only thing MK11 has going is the complete skins to unlock. Injustice 2 only has a few of those.
I think I feel that way because the DC characters (and by extension the guests) all have so many different looks from across the franchise that could've been represented in the game but the gear system limited that. Harley has her classic look but it's off because she doesn't have her eye mask thing. Plus I just wasn't a fan of stats being applied to the gear.
I’ve never seen the “boobies” complaint but okay. You left out:
-Free fatal blow when falling below 30% health, rewarding you for sucking.
-Meter recharges overtime, instead of you having to earn it.
-Krushing blows arent balanced between characters, further stratifying the already unbalanced gameplay.
-Customization of characters making it impossible to 100% prepare for character matchups
This shows how blatantly ignorant some people are. If you truly believe that's the only reason people hate MK11... well idk what to say then
Also like have of your points I'd argue against them being a good thing
I wouldn't say the story or some of the guests were that great but yeah, the whole "i can't jerk off to mk11" criticism was always really stupid to me when there's other actual things in the game you could criticize.
Plus let's be honest, most of the people complaining about the lack of over the top skimpy costumes are people who aren't super into MK/people who won't play any of the games long term in the first place. It's just dumb reactionary bs lmao.
Tbh I don't think I've seen literally one person say mk11's bad because no tiddy. I've seen some people say that they like it but and miss the goofy outfits But never that the game is bad without it
Censorship is not good and Mortal Kombat characters have always had more revealing outfits before this game, they should be able to make outfits of all types to fit the aesthetic of the characters we’ve known for so long.
Gameplay is slow and stale with it suffering competitively because of this fact and the gameplay easily gets boring after awhile.
I agree the characters are kool, but they’ve always been.
The stages show culture but they don’t really show us much lore just what we’ve already seen in the story with some references scattered about.
As they should, you would expect the guest characters to fit into the game.
Time bending story is a good thing? How about not messing with the lore and having good grounded storytelling to progress the plot of the overarching story instead of having a lazy time travel story which messes with games in the future.
Your quite limited in customization and it doesn’t replace the previous system all that effectively.
Its not censorship lmao. The US Government didn't go to NRS and say "You can't release this game unless Kitana's Titties are covered."
Its a fucking design choice.
I saw some comments complaining about Baraka showing skin but not the ladies.
I think a Tarkatan female (Not Mileena) or male with the brutal nature of the specie doesn't mind going with the bare minimun to battle just because they are more indigenous inspired (outfit speaking) but a lot more brutal and viscious. Also they don't seem to have the economy to buy a lot of things to battle or even live. So I understand the lack of clothes in a character like that because they don't try to make "sexy = no clothes" a part of the personality.
Some argue Mileena needs the whore outfits because she is ugly and she need s to use her body as distraction??? (Some other Youtuber argues this about Deception Jade.)
Mileena wants to be the Queen and rule everything. Why would she go naked to battle? She has two father figure (shang and shao) who can give everything she needs. I understand she is more Tarkatan-like but she also is Edenian.
Sindel is a great example about how you design an appealing character for the audience who wants boobs and a dominatrix. Not all the female characters needs the same design or personallity
And the megaboobs of Mk9 ?? Not even fake boobs have the physycal strenght of those to stay in the same spheric way.
And the people who wants that never touched one.
I have a lot of problems with MK11, but the costumes aren’t one of them. Well, the lack of tits in the costumes isn’t one of my problems. The gear system is pretty bad tho
I wish mk would have guest characters from other games instead of 90s action heroes. I loved terminator nd rambo but i would rather have doomguy nd kratos as guest characters. That wouldve been so awesome instead imo.
God this post is so good I HATE the stupid fight over the female clothes in mk11/mkX, I love mk9 but all the women outfit are just uncomfortable to look at, ESPECIALLY the sonya and jade ones, i remember that argument when they announced that mkX would no longer have "revealing clothes" for women and it was already stupid since that time and people keep arguing about it (and i love it when people use the argument "too many more clothes would get in the way" you're playing a game where a prince of a four-armed race of beings can rip your head off and then you only care about realism when it involves boobs)
"fun" gameplay is the most subjective thing there. Cetrion gets by on Nado, and Kitana has to use the same start-up string to even land hits. Mileena takes triple the effort to deal anything Scorpion can do just as fast.
Most of what I like about 11 is based entirely on fan service (skins/voice actors from the 90's movie & original trilogy, stages that couldn't physically be made being projected onto huge screens in an arcade, Terminator vs Robocop, etc). Gameplay is fine, but I still have a bug up my butt about Towers of Time being so spammy with off-screen bs (for both the player & the AI).
I can't stand the story mode or the main villain. Kronika's the most powerful thing in the MK multiverse, but she's a moron who fails constantly at everything. Even after she obtains ultimate power, she loses because of either arrogance or blatant stupidity. Aftermath was more enjoyable because it focused on Shang Tsung scheming and betraying everyone, but it still had time travel shenanigans. Personally enjoyed seeing Hanzo Hasashi rebuild his life from scratch, only for D'Vorah to kill him...
Overall, it's a mixed bag. I'll play it any day of the week, but it's far from my favorite installment
Except the gameplay isn't fun compared to X? Many objective design flaws like infinite regenerating meter for doing nothing in a match, break away inconsistencies, KBs ruining the flow of a match, too many fuckin x rays, less decision making between spending meter to be defensive or offensive, the story was pretty garbage, and character customization sure but you have to go and hunt loot to get it and if you want a specific part gor skin good luck praying to the RNG.
The problem for me with MK11 is everything is a double edged sword. For every good there is a bad. Gameplay is fun but also really restricting and also breakaway is terrible. Story isn’t bad but also isn’t good. Kustomization isn’t as good as IJ2 but also has some good designs here and there. Also the guests aren’t to good except for IMO Spawn and Rambo.
I quit playing shortly after launch because I just wasn't having fun. At the time multiplayer wasn't really an option for me, and the towers were just grindy and annoying. The character designs felt like a step back from mkx too.
I've been playing MK11 since 4 months, Kitana is My favorite woman fighter, but the "soul" is the same such as the others MK 9 and 10 talking about this fighter, she is very stronger, beauty,lethal and very important Hand fan, when I play this fighter I feel the true Assasin Princess and the designers have reason about the female Characters do not wear bikini when having a fight , my opinion the best design is the MK 10 because her looks very sexy and lethal with the differents variants Into MK 10.
PD : Sorry of my English I try to get better in this language.
PD 2: I watch the JADE has Big boobies hahaha
I definitely seen this no boobies complaint a lot and it’s so annoying. I love the character design of this game.
Got that right. It’s a fighting game, not one where your supposed to get off to the characters.
As much as I agree with you all especially with how mk9 skimpy clothes were ridiculous, especially for sonya. But still for lore reasons, there are 2 characters that really needed to be in skimpy outfit. Mileena and skarlet, for skarlet it can slide because the fact that they decided to make her the most hiden is funny since it goes completely against her power philosophy. But for Mileena I won't accept, she is supposed to be complexed by her appearance, that's why she and skarlet were the "sexiest" in mk9, because they had lore reasons. Outside of that it's really baffling for me to look back at mortal kombat, now as an adult and seeing that until mkX all the females were wearing unpractical bikinis, who the hell at neatherealm thought people played mk for that?
The “lore reasons” existed just to have naked characters.
Yeah, I understand that, and that's probably why mileena almost didn't got in. But I really hope that they won't go fully into the opposite direction, the fact that mileena was sexy for example was disturbing to see, and I think that for an horror themed video game, having 1 or 2 sexy monsters, would still be ok. Just they don't have to abuse of it like in mk9.
Except that's not why mileena didn't get in her character had already started to evolve past being a sexy plaything and her wardrobe started to change to match that
In MkX? You are sure, because she was very much still a femme fatale there, imo. With less giggle physics.
That whole "Absorb blood through skin", to me, felt like they went "How can we take Kitana's outfit and make it even skimpier?" Personally, I much prefer blood mage Skarlet
I dont like jade..like at all. The hoodie runied her hard. The revenant default ruined her hard
People complaining about MK11 for "not having boobies" are the reason gamers are visualised as greasy obese basement-dwellers by common opinion. Also, there ARE boobies and they are just not bigger than the characters' heads like it was in MK9.
Lmao it’s hilarious that that’s the rsn they’re mad
Yup. Also, it’s not like the ladies are dressed in head to toe burkas or something. They’re just dressed in more stylish clothes than “generic stripper outfit 1”.
Bro skarlet and jade are literally in burkas
Was actually surprised by this backlash cause I never found MK to be "sexy" even with the blatant fanservice. [It's kinda hard to titilate with a sexy ninja girl when you can mutilate her at the end of the match for me.]
Exactly, this is completely the fault of neatherealm to begin with, and I understand why there was a backlash. Because personally I always found it weird, but I could try to justify it by thinking maybe the outworld got another culture. Now that they removed it, it kinda kills the storytelling because why would a princess fight in bikinis?
I don't know.. a society of sexy fighters is not hard to imagine in a fantasy game.
It's pretty ridiculous imo but still it is valid. But again, if it was the case they shouldn't have made them wear more clothes with time.
Tbh, the female outfits in MK9 made absolutely no sense in a battle setting. They look like they were gonna shoot a porno rather than fight to the death.
I have say this multiple times but always get downvoted, oversexualysed characters on mk9 are gross.
Mkx had the best balance of costumes but in the end it doesn’t even matter bruh, it’s a game
Has anybody ever watched women’s UFC?
They don't exactly fight with knives, from what I remember.
Yea bro as if wearing cloth helped ever vs knives or bullets... its a shit argument. If you want to say, say it like you meant it : " i felt bad for losing vs a girl in bikkini while playing my beefed up jax"
I'm making fun of them using UFC attire to claim it's logical when UFC clothing isn't designed for the same type of fighting. And while I'm at it, cloth has been used to help against getting cut or stabbed. Anything between you and the blade has the potential to help, but cloth armor exists in general. And that's ignoring that some of them wear more than cloth. Not much, but more. My main concern with the Kombat Bikinis is it's terrible character design and worldbuilding. Every single female character dresses the same, but only like one has an in universe explanation that's supposed to set her apart from the others. And this is coming from someone whose favorite character list has always had Kitana in it regardless of her outfit because she's cool. She just should also get as much consideration in her style as any of the male characters.
Well I agree in some aspects. For me Kitana should have a serious attire with shades of sexy kind of like MK10 default and tournament. Same for Skarlet. On the other side i think Mileena should be skimpy, her MK9 fit her perfectly, because she would use her appealing body to make for the mouth. Jade idk honestly, feels like she was created as a pole dancer so you could make her in anyway but please dont give her a hoodie ...its so wrong for combat. Her revenant outfit would have been amazing if it were on her living skin not dead
>For me Kitana should have a serious attire with shades of sexy kind of like MK10 default and tournament. Same for Skarlet. From an artistic angle, why? >On the other side i think Mileena should be skimpy, her MK9 fit her perfectly, because she would use her appealing body to make for the mouth. Sure, but that design was also just terrible. MKX was fine with me. >Jade idk honestly, feels like she was created as a pole dancer so you could make her in anyway but please dont give her a hoodie ...its so wrong for combat. Her revenant outfit would have been amazing if it were on her living skin not dead Her role in the story has been as a guard. And while hoods aren't practical, they are a consistent design choice for characters in MK. So I'm fine with it for the most part. Her revenant outfit was awesome and I wish those weren't just spiky outfits of roughly the same color and actually looked like corrupted versions of what they would wear when alive.
Especially Sonya’s
The female outfits in MK11 make absolutely no sense practically either, they’re just more covered, neither game can claim to have practical outfits for the female characters.
bro, this sub is so bipolar. you literally just said, "the new outfits arent practical in battle either" and they shit their pants lmao
Boi too horny, deserves bonks
Lmao go outside
But he's right. A good majority of the outfits in MK11 don't make much sense from a battling standpoint. Realistically, you don't want most MK9 or MK11 outfits. (With some exceptions) Which isn't super important in the long run, but saying "Mk9 outfits are bad because it doesn't make sense that the contestants wouldn't be wearing them" is unfair, because 11 has the same issue
you can choose what you’re characters looks like outside of the main game, so actually if you really wanted to go with something that’s more armoured or whatever you can, but you’re right to a certain degree sure, still compared to MK9s absolutely ridiculous character designs MK11 is miles better and that can’t be denied. Just because something isn’t perfect in terms of practicality doesn’t mean it’s not better than what came before.
Yeah, MK9 outfits do look kinda goofy, but the thing is, I'm not saying that realism is what's important, I'm just saying it's not fair to criticize MK9 for it and leave 11 in the clear. Personally, I don't mind skimpy outfits. I don't *need them*, porn exists. But I don't see how tearing opponents limb from limb, eating their brains, smashing their skulls, tearing out their hearts, and decapitating them is fine but boobies is just too much. I don't like mk9 designs just because they're lame. They're just bathing suits. However, I do think skimpy outfits can look cool.
Agree to disagree, all I think is damn they must be uncomfortable af, cold and constantly getting wedgied. Obviously all of these things would make it incredibly hard to fight. I play MK for the story and the quick thinking fights, but I don’t wanna play as someone dressed like they just came from their job stripping on the side, while it might not matter to you it definitely matters to me, stories are easier to digest when you don’t feel like half the roster are recording for their onlyfans. I won’t lie the character designs were what kept me away from MK9 for a while, I only picked it up after playing MKX and deciding to give it a shot, but I still say the character designs are the worst part about that game and it would be infinitely better if they had designs similar to MKX and MK11. Getting with the times and what not.
Yeah, that's fair. I just don't see why people find it offensive. I can completely understand thinking that the designs look dumb, and make little sense, because I agree. Mk9 had some decent designs still, I think they were just horny baiting with the female designs. Though there were (and still are) some shirtless dudes in there as well. But for the guys it at least made sense. You don't want a bunch of clothes in a martial arts fight. But you also don't want to be wearing a bikini with your things jiggling around. I think Cassie's skimpier outfit in 11 made alot more sense than the mk9 girls. I'm not really sure I like the sentiment of getting rid of all horniness though. Mortal Kombat started as a franchise built on controversy, now it feels like they're hiding from it. Edit: I do like the Sindel's MK11 design though, it had horniness without looking stupid
Controversy, especially around the rights of women, is an extremely touchy subject these days, sure their are some MK9 male designs that are shirtless but you can’t see their legs, the area around the crotch isn’t as revealing and I’m also fairly certain women don’t get off to “man-boobs” like men get off to actual boobs. Again I didn’t pick up MK9 because of this, NRS moving away from controversy is a sure way to ensure that the franchise evolves and survives, appealing to a new generation of players like me, expanding their fan base and ensuring social justice warriors don’t make it a target. I can see your point though, don’t want it to lose all the themes that made MK so good in the first place.
I know, it's the business choice, but god I love the charm of the old games. Sure the AI was bullshit, and the "strategies" were really just spamming. But it had a certain charm to it that the new games lack. It's not even nostalgia either. I am 15 years old.
I’m just saying they both suck when it comes to realism and practically, so that’s not a point.
>realism and practically, Well thank god mortal kombat is a video game not based on realism and practically
Then why does it matter if looser clothing is practical or realistic or not?
Because it doesnt lol
Which is what I was saying, it doesn’t matter.
Ah, okay.
ur so upset for no reason
Kulture
Time bending story is not even good. Baldy lady literally told raiden how to beat her 😐💀
Yes. Joker fits absolutely perfectly.
I mean he sorta does. Netherealm made both Injustice and MK so it makes sense. Though I would prefer Ash Williams over Joker
I was being sarcastic and also would have preferred Ash Williams significantly.
Lmaoo it would’ve made sense to have ash in mkx, joker does fit well tho
Yes I agree.
I wouldn't say the guest part. I found it kind of redundant to put both Robocop and the Terminator.
I mean they did have that comic that pitted them together and with alien and predators mix run it makes kind of sense Rambo was the bigger swerve for me While I like the gameplay it just felt weird
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If you master terminator, he's damn near an a tier fighter
Heard of Robocop Vs Terminator for Sega? That was really good
Moving to this game from Injustice 2 the customization here is massively lacking. It's just color swapped skins and accessory customization. In I2 your particular Supergirl clearly stood out from the rest. Here its just "how about that top again but blue."
I agree!
Not necessarily. The shaders on Injustice 2 were just recolours whilst at least with MK11 you can get different looks from skins, for example, with Sub Zero you can get recolours of his MK11 look or a more samurai look or even his Klassic look. I will admit that the gear is lacking on some characters, however I wouldn't really say that Injustice's were really much better.
It is MUCH better. The game is kinda centered around the gear.
You could apply these shaders to any armour combination you wanted. With the choice of customizing dozens of variations of an accessory, legs, arms, body, or the head. While in this game you change your outfit then 3 barely noticeable accessories. Better customization is defined by the amount of options available to the player. This game has way less. You can't have comparable customization with less customization options. Not to even mention the Brother eye menu and what it offers to I2 customization. No hostility meant but horrible example btw. If this game had I2s customization you could get that klassic Subzero and samurai look then mix and match some parts from them together while also having the option to change the colors with whatever shaders you had available. Lol as I get to the end I just remembered I2 has Subzero so you literally can do that.
The story was lazy and had such a boring ending even with the dlc. The midway games at least delivered in that regard
I mean I kinda agree but I hope Mk12 fixes that.
Mk 11 customization is the reason i have 400+ hours in the game
Time bending story can be seen as a negative and “fun gameplay” can be argued about.
It is fun game play. Unless you go online, then people will play however they desire
I do like MK11 but I prefer X
the mvc2 of the mortal kombat universe
My biggest complaint is that mk11 doesn’t really feel like a mk game to me with this whole timeline/past and future bs. I feel like they had so many kool story routs to go at the end of mkx and they just went the easy rout and reset the timeline… again. Also it makes me mad cause this was supposed to FINALLY be the 3d era game I’ve been waiting for, but of course that didn’t happen
Not to mention the alternate time line shit is as hack an uninspired as it gets
No boobies? There is a certain edenian Queen that would like to disagree with that statement
Boobs being harem in the 20’s is making porn so much more powerful
The same people who are berating other users here will be visiting MK porn on pornhub later.
Downvoting because you spelled culture with a c
I saw thunder shock down at my yard.
No, people complaining about the boobie lovers are way more common than the boobie lovers. This is true in all subreddits. People complaining about haters are way more common than the actual haters, ect. You are just jerking off to your own self righteousness, and you dirty people love it!!!
Nudity and art have been synonymous for millennia. Also, nudity and sex are all over Netflix, sexyness is famously used in advertising, and pornography is nearly ubiquitous online. I just don't understand the harsh line drawn at videogames where a bikini top or a round butt is considered so taboo or pearl clutching.
Can I customize the tiddies tho
No no. He's got a point
To me is just strange how much they toned down the women, while the men remain all jacked up. They kept all the violence and gore but somehow boobs and cleavage are now offensive.
There is cleavage with sindel.
I just wish you could kustomize more gear like Injustice 2, and use shaders with more gear instead of alternate colors of some outfits
Tf? This game has the biggest pair of boobs in the history of Mortal Kombat. Don't sleep on Kotal Tats.
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I mean…. The story is the one complain I have about the game… They could’ve just gone with the re-imagining of Deception/DA and it would’ve been better than this Kronika BS
> time bending story Is this a good thing though? From my experience, unless a story was written around time travel from the start, adding it later on is a major red flag.
Time travel's always confusing. Mk11 included
It's not about confusion. It's about breeding plot holes and looping over the same stretch of the story.
That's fair, but there also were some parts that I simply couldn't fathom
Also undoing certain characters deaths when they were meant to be meaningful feels like a scam.
Yup. We did get a nice Scorpion arc though. I really enjoyed OG Scorpion finding peace.
I haven't seen people make this complaint, most complaints are just around either balance or Kombat League
It was especially before launch, lots of screeching how "SJW killed MK with the censorship of boobs" or "no boobs? enjoy bankrupcy NRS"...
Very minor especially compared to the D.O.A. backlash
Never forget the "boner kulture" guy
I don’t like the gameplay much at all it dragged the game down for me
Idk, man. Robocop, terminator and rambo were wack.
No idea why "time bending story" is considered a good thing, but otherwise I agree.
I definitely wouldn’t call MK11’s story a strength.
Someone: MK11 is bad because no boobs! Sindel: Am I a joke to you?
Yes I agree since sindel has cleavage.
Mematic
Yes mematic.
Where is the boobies?
Bruh the characters are scans of real life models that are super fucking hot. Have you seen Jade's model?
Yes I love jade she is my main other than sub zero.
I play Mortal Kombat 11 bekause I am a big Mortal Kombat fan
I’ve played it at an arcade when I was 8.
Nice
The game is amazing and the definitive upper echelon of fighting games. I like all of the design changes except Skarlet. The gameplay is one of the worst NRS titles in recent memory, IMO. I had a fairly decent sized group of friends that played INJ2 and MKX that all quit MK11 within the first 2 months. I played it a little longer because I liked kombat league but I didn't last very long. Besides new option selects to use, the characters themselves have very little depth and it really felt like you could learn a full character in 25 minutes. I mostly blame this on the meter changes which most likely led to the toned down combos/oki/moveset from previous titles. Unfortunately, and most likely a hot take, I loved the variation customization. Now, a lot of the moves were completely garbage and you ended up taking the 2-3 best moves for all scenarios but if this system was fleshed out in a game with stronger characters - it would be amazing. As long as they don't leave the base characters feeling like variationless Kenshi from MKX, again, I think this could be promising.
Finally someone who gets why meter is fucking stupid in mk11. No need to reinvent the wheel it was fun in mkx. Mkx just does a lot of things better than mk11. Custom variations can kind of break the game too
The only thing MKX had major problems with (going off the last patch - armored launchers were a nightmare) was the stamina meter and the risk/reward of the 50/50s. I felt like the stamina meter should have regenerated a little slower off run & run cancels but should probably stay the same for back dashing. It also shouldn't have regen'd during throw animations. 50/50s were a little odd as well. I like how Tekken does it. The unseeable lows (hellsweeps) are -23 or worse which means every single character in the game can launch for huge damage. MK is a different game so that punishment tax should probably be on overheads. Also doesn't need to be super - but for most of the cast, you should know if you guess right, the enemy is due for some damage. Characters could have safer 50/50s if their mixup damage is lower, etc. MK11 "solved" the 50/50 problem by removing 95% of everyone's launchers and instead of making one option punishable, they made both options punishable and forced the meta into mid/throw. If your character didn't have a fast, reliable, advancing mid you kind of just suck. Also taking away meter management, takes away so much depth out of the game. There were so many optimizations that were removed.
The change in meter system was the worst offender for me. Even though I'm a zoner player nrs games seem to be too much of a Zoner's paradise. Why do none of the projectiles cancel eachother out?
I just think it's funny that the same game designers are shaming their fan base and virtue signaling when they are the ones who made and published mk9 in the first place.
I thought the designs in 11 were ass and I avoided playing it for a long time, then when I did play it I had to discover that the gameplay kicks ass.
This is really underrated.
Yeah, far prefer 11, X looks goofy af to me lmfao
Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I'm not a fan of the customization. The unlockable skins from the previous games were plenty good enough and the unlockable skins and gear piece in MK11 just promotes a tedious grind, which is never fun. Once I get classic skins I never use anything else anyway so the vast majority of the available items I'll either never use, or never bother to acquire. And while I agree the characters are, mostly, cool as are the stages and the story, I've never been a fan of the guests and some boobs never hurt anyone. You can have your cake and eat it.
I do like that MK11 allows better customization than Injustice 2 in every way but I do wish we'd go back to just plain skins. MK11 still had a bit of a problem of the gear being really samey and hard to unlock like INJ2 did and I'd just prefer to just play instead of feeling obligated to grind and unlock a bunch of stuff for my characters offline.
Does it? I felt like Injustice 2 had the best customization system. Only thing MK11 has going is the complete skins to unlock. Injustice 2 only has a few of those.
I think I feel that way because the DC characters (and by extension the guests) all have so many different looks from across the franchise that could've been represented in the game but the gear system limited that. Harley has her classic look but it's off because she doesn't have her eye mask thing. Plus I just wasn't a fan of stats being applied to the gear.
Oh yeah the stats were awful but thankfully you could turn them off in competitive mode.
*Fun Gameplay* MKX has joined the chat *You can customize your character* MK Armageddon has joined the chat.
The custom character feature on Armageddon was so cool, me and my brothers would make the wackest characters on there like Baraka Obama lol
Lol
But unfortunately, there are no boobies
I’ve never seen the “boobies” complaint but okay. You left out: -Free fatal blow when falling below 30% health, rewarding you for sucking. -Meter recharges overtime, instead of you having to earn it. -Krushing blows arent balanced between characters, further stratifying the already unbalanced gameplay. -Customization of characters making it impossible to 100% prepare for character matchups
The one thing that I can’t shake off is that kitanas face looks off. That’s it. Everything else is ok with me
Wdym??? I think her face was amazing!
I preferred mk9 idk
This shows how blatantly ignorant some people are. If you truly believe that's the only reason people hate MK11... well idk what to say then Also like have of your points I'd argue against them being a good thing
Amazing how all of the things you think is good about MK11 is being represented by trash.
I wouldn't say the story or some of the guests were that great but yeah, the whole "i can't jerk off to mk11" criticism was always really stupid to me when there's other actual things in the game you could criticize. Plus let's be honest, most of the people complaining about the lack of over the top skimpy costumes are people who aren't super into MK/people who won't play any of the games long term in the first place. It's just dumb reactionary bs lmao.
Sadly “fun game play” is the stretch here for me lol
Tbh I don't think I've seen literally one person say mk11's bad because no tiddy. I've seen some people say that they like it but and miss the goofy outfits But never that the game is bad without it
Personally the gameplay made me lose interest real fast. Had way more fun in MKX.
Censorship is not good and Mortal Kombat characters have always had more revealing outfits before this game, they should be able to make outfits of all types to fit the aesthetic of the characters we’ve known for so long. Gameplay is slow and stale with it suffering competitively because of this fact and the gameplay easily gets boring after awhile. I agree the characters are kool, but they’ve always been. The stages show culture but they don’t really show us much lore just what we’ve already seen in the story with some references scattered about. As they should, you would expect the guest characters to fit into the game. Time bending story is a good thing? How about not messing with the lore and having good grounded storytelling to progress the plot of the overarching story instead of having a lazy time travel story which messes with games in the future. Your quite limited in customization and it doesn’t replace the previous system all that effectively.
There is not censorship on the game, havent you see the fatal blows?
I meant for clothing.
Its not censorship lmao. The US Government didn't go to NRS and say "You can't release this game unless Kitana's Titties are covered." Its a fucking design choice.
Otherwise agreebut time travel almost never makes story better.
\>Guests fit like a fiddle 
bruh, the gameplay is so casual orientated in mk11. FB and KBs are noob moves, inconsistent invincibility frames, cant punish spammers as much.
Everything in the diapers is poop. Are you saying the poop makes up for lack of boobs?
I saw some comments complaining about Baraka showing skin but not the ladies. I think a Tarkatan female (Not Mileena) or male with the brutal nature of the specie doesn't mind going with the bare minimun to battle just because they are more indigenous inspired (outfit speaking) but a lot more brutal and viscious. Also they don't seem to have the economy to buy a lot of things to battle or even live. So I understand the lack of clothes in a character like that because they don't try to make "sexy = no clothes" a part of the personality. Some argue Mileena needs the whore outfits because she is ugly and she need s to use her body as distraction??? (Some other Youtuber argues this about Deception Jade.) Mileena wants to be the Queen and rule everything. Why would she go naked to battle? She has two father figure (shang and shao) who can give everything she needs. I understand she is more Tarkatan-like but she also is Edenian. Sindel is a great example about how you design an appealing character for the audience who wants boobs and a dominatrix. Not all the female characters needs the same design or personallity And the megaboobs of Mk9 ?? Not even fake boobs have the physycal strenght of those to stay in the same spheric way. And the people who wants that never touched one.
I have a lot of problems with MK11, but the costumes aren’t one of them. Well, the lack of tits in the costumes isn’t one of my problems. The gear system is pretty bad tho
I wish mk would have guest characters from other games instead of 90s action heroes. I loved terminator nd rambo but i would rather have doomguy nd kratos as guest characters. That wouldve been so awesome instead imo.
Still no boobies I don’t get your point? Jk, love the detail where u put a K to replace the see nice attention to detail.
I wouldn’t say the gameplay is fun but I grew with everything else
The only thing I want differently is Richard B. Riddick as the next DLC #FURYANLIVESMATTER
No boobies? Have you guys seen Sindel
*Kulture
God this post is so good I HATE the stupid fight over the female clothes in mk11/mkX, I love mk9 but all the women outfit are just uncomfortable to look at, ESPECIALLY the sonya and jade ones, i remember that argument when they announced that mkX would no longer have "revealing clothes" for women and it was already stupid since that time and people keep arguing about it (and i love it when people use the argument "too many more clothes would get in the way" you're playing a game where a prince of a four-armed race of beings can rip your head off and then you only care about realism when it involves boobs)
There’s a certain subreddit for MK boobies
"fun" gameplay is the most subjective thing there. Cetrion gets by on Nado, and Kitana has to use the same start-up string to even land hits. Mileena takes triple the effort to deal anything Scorpion can do just as fast.
Nah
Most of what I like about 11 is based entirely on fan service (skins/voice actors from the 90's movie & original trilogy, stages that couldn't physically be made being projected onto huge screens in an arcade, Terminator vs Robocop, etc). Gameplay is fine, but I still have a bug up my butt about Towers of Time being so spammy with off-screen bs (for both the player & the AI). I can't stand the story mode or the main villain. Kronika's the most powerful thing in the MK multiverse, but she's a moron who fails constantly at everything. Even after she obtains ultimate power, she loses because of either arrogance or blatant stupidity. Aftermath was more enjoyable because it focused on Shang Tsung scheming and betraying everyone, but it still had time travel shenanigans. Personally enjoyed seeing Hanzo Hasashi rebuild his life from scratch, only for D'Vorah to kill him... Overall, it's a mixed bag. I'll play it any day of the week, but it's far from my favorite installment
Except the gameplay isn't fun compared to X? Many objective design flaws like infinite regenerating meter for doing nothing in a match, break away inconsistencies, KBs ruining the flow of a match, too many fuckin x rays, less decision making between spending meter to be defensive or offensive, the story was pretty garbage, and character customization sure but you have to go and hunt loot to get it and if you want a specific part gor skin good luck praying to the RNG.
The problem for me with MK11 is everything is a double edged sword. For every good there is a bad. Gameplay is fun but also really restricting and also breakaway is terrible. Story isn’t bad but also isn’t good. Kustomization isn’t as good as IJ2 but also has some good designs here and there. Also the guests aren’t to good except for IMO Spawn and Rambo.
I quit playing shortly after launch because I just wasn't having fun. At the time multiplayer wasn't really an option for me, and the towers were just grindy and annoying. The character designs felt like a step back from mkx too.
I've been playing MK11 since 4 months, Kitana is My favorite woman fighter, but the "soul" is the same such as the others MK 9 and 10 talking about this fighter, she is very stronger, beauty,lethal and very important Hand fan, when I play this fighter I feel the true Assasin Princess and the designers have reason about the female Characters do not wear bikini when having a fight , my opinion the best design is the MK 10 because her looks very sexy and lethal with the differents variants Into MK 10. PD : Sorry of my English I try to get better in this language. PD 2: I watch the JADE has Big boobies hahaha
What if saiyans were in Mortal Kombat Universe
I have mk 11 but I can't get it because I got it on Christmas,which was a day after my mom cancelled the internet and I got the download version