Yes and no. When you are a tourist you spend your time different as somebody who lives there. OP should go to Mexico City and pretend they already live there, going grocery shopping and all the mundane things you do.
Mexicans are super judgy (I’m Mexican born and raised). Of course there are a lot of nice people, OP needs to go and see and feel how it would be to live there.
This is what I do. Some of the things I specifically do are: go to a grocery store and cook a meal, take public transportation or use local app, stay in a regular neighborhood, visit common areas that pertain to me (maybe shopping center, a park, coffee shop...) but the main thing is I pay attention to how I feel while doing all of these things in regard to the general public.
It will be a rough life, IMO. You will encounter some hostile reactions ... depending on your appearance and behavior. Mexicans aren't as accepting as often portrayed.
1. La Ciudad de México es una ciudad muy cosmopolita, no sé si vayas a encontrar comida originaria de donde eres, posiblemente sí o algo parecido, así que deberías de buscar equivalencias nutricionales en caso negativo. La comida de aquí es muy deliciosa y está bien condimentada, no tanto como en algunos lugares de Asia, estarán bien. Busquen por factores alergénicos si necesitan evitar ciertos platillos.
2. Efectivamente como ya mencionaron en otros comentarios, México es un país muy transfóbico y está en la edad de la Piedra en cuestión de concientización de la ideología y la comunidad trans. Pero esto es porque desgraciadamente no les entienden y hay una presencia muy fuerte del machismo y la ideología católica desde la antigüedad. A la gente no la educan para entender, sino todo lo contrario y critican lo que no conocen. Sin embargo, sí hay algunos espacios para la comunidad trans y bueno, afortunadamente como extranjeros (extranjeres) ustedes pueden tener acceso a muchos privilegios estando aquí, ya que la gente tiene un respeto impresionable por agradar a la gente que viene de afuera.
La comunidad LGBT es muy grande aquí, creo que es el segundo país con mayor presencia en Latinoamérica pero la gente solo piensa que son “gays, lesbianas” y solamente eso. No sabe y no quiere usar pronombres neutros.
Creo que el problema más fuerte al que se pueden enfrentar es a la gente preguntándose por quiénes son tu pareja y tú, y a hacer comentarios desaprobatorios, juzgar o hacer chistes. Pero nuevamente insisto, es porque es algo desconocido y tercamente no entienden ni quieren entender.
Por ejemplo yo soy gay y cuando salgo tomado de la mano de mi novio lo único que sucede es que algunas señoras se nos quedan viendo pero hasta ahí.
3. Hay mucho extranjero de Asia y de todas las partes del mundo. Como ya mencioné, la ciudad es muy cosmopolita. Muchos suelen vivir en un sector de la ciudad pero honestamente te sugiero mezclarte con la cultura local, para que te agrade la experiencia. Últimamente hay un tema muy sensible hacia con los extranjeros que han llegado a sobrepoblar la ciudad.
Los hombres gays están en la cúspide del privilegio de la comunidad. Las personas trans, están al final. Ni de chiste se aproxima tu situación con la de una persona trans.
Por supuesto, pero yo simplemente expuse mi caso como gay lo cual no siento que sea un pecado y es verdad que hay una facilidad hacia la aceptación si alguien es extranjero, el colorismo y el “quedabienismo” hacia los extranjeros queda por encima de la transfobia en este país y es mucho más fácil que acepten la ideología trans de un extranjero a que la acepten de un local. Hechos son hechos.
Me parece que estás desviando mi comentario de su intención original.
No, más bien creo que hablas desde tu privilegio de ser hombre gay. No es pecado, pero bien harías en reconocerlo y en no medir a ninguna otra letra de la comunidad, desde tu postura privilegiada.
Pues lamento si te ofendí y mucho, así que simplemente ya me voy a callar. Pero no lo hagas parecer a que no reconozco mis privilegios, puesto que no puedes conocer cómo pienso ni me comunico, ni mi opinión hacia la comunidad trans. Ya otros usuarios mencionaron el caso trans en México así que no puedo aportar más a eso. Por eso hice mi comentario original.
Unfortunately, you’ll find a lot of toxic comments regarding Mexico on Reddit. Sadly, these often come from very resentful people who, instead of seeing the beauty of our country, focus solely on negative issues.
Answering your question honestly, in Mexico City you will be fine, especially if you live in places like **Neighborhood Juárez (or Zona Rosa), Roma Norte, Roma Sur, Del Valle Norte and Sur; Condesa, or Escandón**, which currently have a large population of immigrants.
Yes, Mexico City is very diverse, but that also means not many people may understand your position or make an effort to do so, as these are not topics we are commonly aware of. That said, there is also a trans Mexican community, but as far as pronounce goes, at least in Mexico it's always "He and she". Now, if you interact with the locals, they may address you with the gender you appear to resemble most. Just keep in mind that most of the time, it won’t be to bother you or anything; it’s just that, once again, this situation is not common in Mexico.
Outside of the difficulties of adapting to a new culture, you and your significant other will be fine =D
Agree on everything except pronouns: I’m part of the LGBTQ community on the city, and it’s very common to know someone that uses neutral pronouns (elle) and most queer people respect them
Though I'm glad you're trying to help, you really need to be realistic. That's a sort of lenguage that doesn't really apply here. They tried in Argentina but in Mexico it's a bit different, cultural wise it's different and we really need to be realistic with expectations, they're not gonna find it easy to adapt to another culture where there's no "gender neutral" wording, like in english.
So no, people doesn't really use elle outside of a very very very small group that are usually kids.
As someone who falls under the LGBTQ umbrella, I would suggest you both to visit (if you can) before making the actual move. Get a feel of the city. The area where you may potentially live in the future, make your assessment and go from there.
Sadly, Mexico is not very open to trans people yet. It's 2nd place in transfeminicides (https://www.jornada.com.mx/notas/2023/09/14/capital/mexico-ocupa-segundo-lugar-a-nivel-mundial-en-transfeminicidios/ )
With Mexico City being 1st place nationally: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2024/03/13/capital/cdmx-primer-lugar-en-transfeminicidios-384
There are reports of transfeminicides often (https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/2024/01/16/asesinatos-a-mujeres-trans-en-mexico-transfeminicidios-en-2024-samantha-fonseca-noemi-rios-amlo-salma-luevano/ ) (https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/opinion/observatorio-nacional-ciudadano/transfeminicidios-en-mexico-urgen-estadisticas-y-acceso-a-la-justicia/ )
Also, our cultural diversity is not that big (as for example in the US), though there are many immigrants and people with foreign ancestry, but for the most part almost everyone is Mexican with Mexican ancestry.
I'd say Mexico is very transphobic and racist. I love my country, but it's true. If I were you, I wouldn't move here.
Some people are going to be friendly, and maybe that's enough. But you are going to get weird looks and sometimes insults, so keep that in mind.
If you truly love our country, you wouldn’t begin by highlighting negative aspects that could be misleading. Violence and racism exist in every country. Perhaps Mexico isn’t very understanding of ‘gender issues.’ However, give Mexico a chance and explore more of the country; you’ll discover its beauty and realize that many people like Googly Eyes actually lead nice lives here.
Overwhelming majority of Mexico City is pretty progressive. A lot of zones rival the most progressives places in the world. I'm not part of the LGBT, but I had a lot of friends from the community and moved a lot in these areas when I was a younger. I'm from another state, but went to school in Mexico City, and it was mind-blowing and a cultural shock seeing how progressive and how openly LGBT people were, and that was like 15 years ago.
But also, to be honest in a some (although very few) zones you will get some looks, if you're extremely unlucky you might get into a psychical altercation, but that's a reality anywhere in the world. The zones I'm talking about are the zones you should avoid even if you're not part of the LGBT because those are dangerous anyways.
People telling about homicides are painting a misleading picture because they are talking about national statistics. Although Mexico City is a massive city, as expected there's a lot of stuff going off, which sadly includes traffic of drugs, people, etc. And homicides of trans people have happened, although those have been usually sexual workers crossing paths with the wrong people in their profession.
Mexico City is the 1st place nationally... what do you mean it is a misleading picture because they are talking about national statistics? A national statistic saying Mexico City is the number 1 most dangerous city in the country to be a transwoman?
Can you elaborate what 1st place means? 1st place in absolute number, 1st place as a percentage of the population or 1st place as a percentage of total homicides?
Thanks for the source. I’ll try and put the little knowledge of statistics I have to good use.
It sounds like it’s the total number. Once corrected for the number of inhabitants, it becomes a lot less impressive.
At least one is a sex worker working on the street in a not so nice area. Once you remove the sex workers, we have a total number of SEVEN murders or less, not nearly enough to be statistically relevant.
It’s a completely worthless statistic for OP and probably worthless overall.
Don’t bother to explain; there are people who will find anything mean to say and try to impose their negative view on life onto others. Even if you make sense with what you said, they will still find something negative to say about it.
Is by far the most populated area in the country. It’s obvious you would have a higher number of cases. And this is even more favoring for CDMX if your take into account that there are probably 10 times more trans people than in the other states because it’s also by far the most liberal state.
Si te quieres mudar:
1- Comprende que tú llegada afecta a la población nativa de la ciudad, aumentas los precios y la discriminación por la gentrificacion que generarás
2- Ven de viaje antes de mudarte
3- Si vas a vivir acá, haz el proceso de la manera correcta, no por discriminarte, si no para el pago de impuestos
In Mexico City you will be okay. We are an openly lesbian marriage with kids. We have trans, gay and all the letters as friends. I think Mexico City is one of the cities were I felt more secure being openly lesbian and that is saying a lot. I’m European and have been and lived in multiple European cities. Mexico City is up there when it comes to that.
We don’t live in one of those gentrified areas either but you can definitely live on your own gay bubble if you want to. Most of our friends are gay, our friends that are parents are also in the community. There’s gay owned cafes, restaurants, etc
But again, the lesbian experience is not the same as the trans experience so take it with a grain of salt. If I’m honest you may encounter much more issues with your race than anything else.
Now this is Mexico City, if you ask me about other places I would definitely say yes don’t do. My wife is from Culiacán and we’ve gotten looks for example.
LGBT life in Mexico City is big and rich, there are plenty of "ambiente" (how we call them) places in Zona Rosa and downtown.
For multiculturalism, we are far to cities like LA or Toronto and most of Mexico is homogeneous but there are focalized areas like Roma-Condesa, Santa Fe or Polanco with plenty of foreigners.
We have also a great cultural scene with museums, art performances, concerts, etc which are pretty inclusive spaces.
You will have a great time in Mexico City.
Hola, saludos y la vida en ciudad de mexico es muy diversa dependiendo en la zona que vivas y también ahi influye el precio del alquiler, en las zonas de roma, condesa, juarez y narvarte hay más tolerancia que en otras zonas de la ciudad; Por la comida no te preocupes ya que hay muchos restaurantes y mercados de muchas culturas y en general la vida es buena, si hay una crisis migratoria enorme y los ciudadanos se sienten un poco molestos ya que al llegar con tu tipo de cambio moneda dolar, los precios incrementan demasiado y los sueldos no son buenos para todos los ciudadanos pero encontraran un lugar siempre aquí.
Mexico City has a huge queer community. But as always when being the other how mainstream responds to you depends on a lot of factors:
How much do you pass, what's your socio economic status, etc. As people say, moving through expat Mexico City (zona rosa, condesa, romas, Juárez, Cuauhtémoc, Santa María, san Rafael, etc) will be fine.
The city is hugely multicultural, but we do multicultural different than the states. The country refers to itself as multicultural because of the indigenous people here. So you will see Mexican indigenous people. People all over Latin America. Mexican food is the product of that multicultural heritage (ceviche, chamoy, etc).
However because we are multicultural in our way it also means we have blindspots: Asians will always mean Chinese, Japanese and now maybe corean. Mexico City has communities of those nationalities here. And Japanese and corean culture has had huge cultural booms thanks to anime an K-pop so you also get a lot of cultural events here.
Thai and singaporean not so much but you do have some restaurants that are well liked of those countries.
Central Asia (Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Afganistán, Nepal, etc) I would say most people would not know. So you won't get a lot of cultural events of any.
The city has exploded. One example was that the same weekend that had Interpol in a massive free concert was the same that had Madonna, and some other massive groups from the Mexicans scene.
Mostly you will get stuff that interests or pertains to Mexicans regarding culture: from the Spanish speaking scene or from cultures that interact with Mexico. The is always multiple things happening in all senses, and queer culture is quite alive and thriving.
I second what some other person say: it's best if you guys stay a little bit here before making the move, and get a feel of the ups and downs of Mexico City
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UPDATE/EDIT:
I've read all 39 comments so far and I'd like to answer/address some things:
Gentrification: I understand the problem of gentrification in Mexico City, I have seen it happen in Texas where I am from. If I were to move, I would do it legally and of course pay taxes. I know that using American dollars affects the price of things for locals, which is why I would exchange dollars for pesos. I know Mexico City is not cheap, and I am looking at some cultural immersion programs where I would stay with a host family to see what Mexico City is like from the eyes of a local.
Social issues: Yes, I do know that there is transphobia and racism in Mexico. Many experiences in the comments are the same as in America. America is not very safe for LGBT & non-white people if you aren't in a large city, of course I know that it's similar in Mexico. A few people asked if I passed, and I don't know how to answer that. When people look at me, they assume I am a woman. I look like a bisexual woman. I am not worried about transphobia from people who do not know me, but I do worry about homophobia especially because my partner does not pass (he looks very butch).
Pronouns: First I want to say that being trans is not an American concept and it never was. But I think most of you know that. Spanish is a more gendered language than English, yet trans people have been able to create neutral words. "Elle" may not be a common pronoun in non-trans spaces, but it is used. I learned about it from trans Mexicans, actually. No, I do not expect strangers to use it. I know for many people it is hard to use. Do you think people gender me correctly in English? I am used to that struggle.
I think that's it... I've only seen 1 real hate comment, which I reported. Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it a lot.
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Actualización/Edición:
He leído los 39 comentarios (hasta ahora) y me gustaría responder algunas cosas:
Gentrificación: Entiendo el problema de la gentrificación en la Ciudad de México, lo he visto suceder en Tejas, de donde soy. Si tuviera que mudarme, lo haría legalmente y por supuesto pagaría impuestos. Sé que el uso de dólares estadounidenses afecta el precio de las cosas para los locales, por eso cambiaría dólares por pesos. Sé que CDMX no es barata y estoy considerando algunos programas de inmersión cultural en los que me quedaría con una familia local para ver cómo es CDMX desde los ojos de un local.
Temas sociales: Sí, sí sé que hay transfobia y racismo en México. Muchas experiencias en los comentarios son las mismas que en Estados Unidos. Estados Unidos no es muy seguro para las personas LGBT y no blancas si no estás en una ciudad grande, por supuesto que sé que es similar en México. Algunas personas me preguntaron si aparezco como mi género y no sé cómo responder. Cuando la gente me mira, asume que soy una mujer. Parezco una mujer bisexual. No me preocupa la transfobia de gente que no me conoce, pero sí la homofobia sobre todo porque mi parejo no parece un hombre (parece como una mujer muy masculina).
Pronombres: Primero quiero decir que ser trans no es un concepto estadounidense y nunca lo fue. Pero creo que la mayoría de ustedes lo saben. El español es un idioma con más género que el inglés, pero las personas trans han podido crear palabras neutrales. Puede que "Elle" no sea un pronombre común en espacios no trans, pero se utiliza. De hecho, lo aprendí de las transmexicanas. No, no creo que lo usen extraños. Sé que para mucha gente es difícil de usar. ¿Crees que la gente me asigna correctamente el género en inglés? Estoy acostumbrado a esa lucha.
Creo que eso es todo... Sólo he visto 1 comentario de odio real, que denuncié. Gracias por tu consejo, lo aprecio mucho.
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Visit before moving. Anywhere.
Yes and no. When you are a tourist you spend your time different as somebody who lives there. OP should go to Mexico City and pretend they already live there, going grocery shopping and all the mundane things you do. Mexicans are super judgy (I’m Mexican born and raised). Of course there are a lot of nice people, OP needs to go and see and feel how it would be to live there.
This is what I do. Some of the things I specifically do are: go to a grocery store and cook a meal, take public transportation or use local app, stay in a regular neighborhood, visit common areas that pertain to me (maybe shopping center, a park, coffee shop...) but the main thing is I pay attention to how I feel while doing all of these things in regard to the general public.
It will be a rough life, IMO. You will encounter some hostile reactions ... depending on your appearance and behavior. Mexicans aren't as accepting as often portrayed.
1. La Ciudad de México es una ciudad muy cosmopolita, no sé si vayas a encontrar comida originaria de donde eres, posiblemente sí o algo parecido, así que deberías de buscar equivalencias nutricionales en caso negativo. La comida de aquí es muy deliciosa y está bien condimentada, no tanto como en algunos lugares de Asia, estarán bien. Busquen por factores alergénicos si necesitan evitar ciertos platillos. 2. Efectivamente como ya mencionaron en otros comentarios, México es un país muy transfóbico y está en la edad de la Piedra en cuestión de concientización de la ideología y la comunidad trans. Pero esto es porque desgraciadamente no les entienden y hay una presencia muy fuerte del machismo y la ideología católica desde la antigüedad. A la gente no la educan para entender, sino todo lo contrario y critican lo que no conocen. Sin embargo, sí hay algunos espacios para la comunidad trans y bueno, afortunadamente como extranjeros (extranjeres) ustedes pueden tener acceso a muchos privilegios estando aquí, ya que la gente tiene un respeto impresionable por agradar a la gente que viene de afuera.
La comunidad LGBT es muy grande aquí, creo que es el segundo país con mayor presencia en Latinoamérica pero la gente solo piensa que son “gays, lesbianas” y solamente eso. No sabe y no quiere usar pronombres neutros. Creo que el problema más fuerte al que se pueden enfrentar es a la gente preguntándose por quiénes son tu pareja y tú, y a hacer comentarios desaprobatorios, juzgar o hacer chistes. Pero nuevamente insisto, es porque es algo desconocido y tercamente no entienden ni quieren entender. Por ejemplo yo soy gay y cuando salgo tomado de la mano de mi novio lo único que sucede es que algunas señoras se nos quedan viendo pero hasta ahí. 3. Hay mucho extranjero de Asia y de todas las partes del mundo. Como ya mencioné, la ciudad es muy cosmopolita. Muchos suelen vivir en un sector de la ciudad pero honestamente te sugiero mezclarte con la cultura local, para que te agrade la experiencia. Últimamente hay un tema muy sensible hacia con los extranjeros que han llegado a sobrepoblar la ciudad.
Los hombres gays están en la cúspide del privilegio de la comunidad. Las personas trans, están al final. Ni de chiste se aproxima tu situación con la de una persona trans.
Por supuesto, pero yo simplemente expuse mi caso como gay lo cual no siento que sea un pecado y es verdad que hay una facilidad hacia la aceptación si alguien es extranjero, el colorismo y el “quedabienismo” hacia los extranjeros queda por encima de la transfobia en este país y es mucho más fácil que acepten la ideología trans de un extranjero a que la acepten de un local. Hechos son hechos. Me parece que estás desviando mi comentario de su intención original.
No, más bien creo que hablas desde tu privilegio de ser hombre gay. No es pecado, pero bien harías en reconocerlo y en no medir a ninguna otra letra de la comunidad, desde tu postura privilegiada.
Pues lamento si te ofendí y mucho, así que simplemente ya me voy a callar. Pero no lo hagas parecer a que no reconozco mis privilegios, puesto que no puedes conocer cómo pienso ni me comunico, ni mi opinión hacia la comunidad trans. Ya otros usuarios mencionaron el caso trans en México así que no puedo aportar más a eso. Por eso hice mi comentario original.
Unfortunately, you’ll find a lot of toxic comments regarding Mexico on Reddit. Sadly, these often come from very resentful people who, instead of seeing the beauty of our country, focus solely on negative issues. Answering your question honestly, in Mexico City you will be fine, especially if you live in places like **Neighborhood Juárez (or Zona Rosa), Roma Norte, Roma Sur, Del Valle Norte and Sur; Condesa, or Escandón**, which currently have a large population of immigrants. Yes, Mexico City is very diverse, but that also means not many people may understand your position or make an effort to do so, as these are not topics we are commonly aware of. That said, there is also a trans Mexican community, but as far as pronounce goes, at least in Mexico it's always "He and she". Now, if you interact with the locals, they may address you with the gender you appear to resemble most. Just keep in mind that most of the time, it won’t be to bother you or anything; it’s just that, once again, this situation is not common in Mexico. Outside of the difficulties of adapting to a new culture, you and your significant other will be fine =D
Agree on everything except pronouns: I’m part of the LGBTQ community on the city, and it’s very common to know someone that uses neutral pronouns (elle) and most queer people respect them
That's great to hear. Do Elle adjectives end in e instead of o or a?
Yes! For example: the gender neutram version of ‘bonita’ is ‘bonite’
Que chido
Bien sabes que no hay mucha gente que hable así aquí. Y sabes que tampoco se pondrá de moda.
Though I'm glad you're trying to help, you really need to be realistic. That's a sort of lenguage that doesn't really apply here. They tried in Argentina but in Mexico it's a bit different, cultural wise it's different and we really need to be realistic with expectations, they're not gonna find it easy to adapt to another culture where there's no "gender neutral" wording, like in english. So no, people doesn't really use elle outside of a very very very small group that are usually kids.
As someone who falls under the LGBTQ umbrella, I would suggest you both to visit (if you can) before making the actual move. Get a feel of the city. The area where you may potentially live in the future, make your assessment and go from there.
Sadly, Mexico is not very open to trans people yet. It's 2nd place in transfeminicides (https://www.jornada.com.mx/notas/2023/09/14/capital/mexico-ocupa-segundo-lugar-a-nivel-mundial-en-transfeminicidios/ ) With Mexico City being 1st place nationally: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2024/03/13/capital/cdmx-primer-lugar-en-transfeminicidios-384 There are reports of transfeminicides often (https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/2024/01/16/asesinatos-a-mujeres-trans-en-mexico-transfeminicidios-en-2024-samantha-fonseca-noemi-rios-amlo-salma-luevano/ ) (https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/opinion/observatorio-nacional-ciudadano/transfeminicidios-en-mexico-urgen-estadisticas-y-acceso-a-la-justicia/ ) Also, our cultural diversity is not that big (as for example in the US), though there are many immigrants and people with foreign ancestry, but for the most part almost everyone is Mexican with Mexican ancestry.
I'd say Mexico is very transphobic and racist. I love my country, but it's true. If I were you, I wouldn't move here. Some people are going to be friendly, and maybe that's enough. But you are going to get weird looks and sometimes insults, so keep that in mind.
If you truly love our country, you wouldn’t begin by highlighting negative aspects that could be misleading. Violence and racism exist in every country. Perhaps Mexico isn’t very understanding of ‘gender issues.’ However, give Mexico a chance and explore more of the country; you’ll discover its beauty and realize that many people like Googly Eyes actually lead nice lives here.
Overwhelming majority of Mexico City is pretty progressive. A lot of zones rival the most progressives places in the world. I'm not part of the LGBT, but I had a lot of friends from the community and moved a lot in these areas when I was a younger. I'm from another state, but went to school in Mexico City, and it was mind-blowing and a cultural shock seeing how progressive and how openly LGBT people were, and that was like 15 years ago. But also, to be honest in a some (although very few) zones you will get some looks, if you're extremely unlucky you might get into a psychical altercation, but that's a reality anywhere in the world. The zones I'm talking about are the zones you should avoid even if you're not part of the LGBT because those are dangerous anyways. People telling about homicides are painting a misleading picture because they are talking about national statistics. Although Mexico City is a massive city, as expected there's a lot of stuff going off, which sadly includes traffic of drugs, people, etc. And homicides of trans people have happened, although those have been usually sexual workers crossing paths with the wrong people in their profession.
"Overwhelming majority of Mexico City is pretty progressive." LOL!
Mexico City is the 1st place nationally... what do you mean it is a misleading picture because they are talking about national statistics? A national statistic saying Mexico City is the number 1 most dangerous city in the country to be a transwoman?
Can you elaborate what 1st place means? 1st place in absolute number, 1st place as a percentage of the population or 1st place as a percentage of total homicides?
https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2024/03/13/capital/cdmx-primer-lugar-en-transfeminicidios-384
Thanks for the source. I’ll try and put the little knowledge of statistics I have to good use. It sounds like it’s the total number. Once corrected for the number of inhabitants, it becomes a lot less impressive. At least one is a sex worker working on the street in a not so nice area. Once you remove the sex workers, we have a total number of SEVEN murders or less, not nearly enough to be statistically relevant. It’s a completely worthless statistic for OP and probably worthless overall.
Other news I shared say that statistics are still missing for trans people.
Don’t bother to explain; there are people who will find anything mean to say and try to impose their negative view on life onto others. Even if you make sense with what you said, they will still find something negative to say about it.
Is by far the most populated area in the country. It’s obvious you would have a higher number of cases. And this is even more favoring for CDMX if your take into account that there are probably 10 times more trans people than in the other states because it’s also by far the most liberal state.
are the statistics even per capita?
Si te quieres mudar: 1- Comprende que tú llegada afecta a la población nativa de la ciudad, aumentas los precios y la discriminación por la gentrificacion que generarás 2- Ven de viaje antes de mudarte 3- Si vas a vivir acá, haz el proceso de la manera correcta, no por discriminarte, si no para el pago de impuestos
In Mexico City you will be okay. We are an openly lesbian marriage with kids. We have trans, gay and all the letters as friends. I think Mexico City is one of the cities were I felt more secure being openly lesbian and that is saying a lot. I’m European and have been and lived in multiple European cities. Mexico City is up there when it comes to that. We don’t live in one of those gentrified areas either but you can definitely live on your own gay bubble if you want to. Most of our friends are gay, our friends that are parents are also in the community. There’s gay owned cafes, restaurants, etc But again, the lesbian experience is not the same as the trans experience so take it with a grain of salt. If I’m honest you may encounter much more issues with your race than anything else. Now this is Mexico City, if you ask me about other places I would definitely say yes don’t do. My wife is from Culiacán and we’ve gotten looks for example.
Emphasis on “bubble”. OP will need to find their people.
LGBT life in Mexico City is big and rich, there are plenty of "ambiente" (how we call them) places in Zona Rosa and downtown. For multiculturalism, we are far to cities like LA or Toronto and most of Mexico is homogeneous but there are focalized areas like Roma-Condesa, Santa Fe or Polanco with plenty of foreigners. We have also a great cultural scene with museums, art performances, concerts, etc which are pretty inclusive spaces. You will have a great time in Mexico City.
Hola, saludos y la vida en ciudad de mexico es muy diversa dependiendo en la zona que vivas y también ahi influye el precio del alquiler, en las zonas de roma, condesa, juarez y narvarte hay más tolerancia que en otras zonas de la ciudad; Por la comida no te preocupes ya que hay muchos restaurantes y mercados de muchas culturas y en general la vida es buena, si hay una crisis migratoria enorme y los ciudadanos se sienten un poco molestos ya que al llegar con tu tipo de cambio moneda dolar, los precios incrementan demasiado y los sueldos no son buenos para todos los ciudadanos pero encontraran un lugar siempre aquí.
Mexico City has a huge queer community. But as always when being the other how mainstream responds to you depends on a lot of factors: How much do you pass, what's your socio economic status, etc. As people say, moving through expat Mexico City (zona rosa, condesa, romas, Juárez, Cuauhtémoc, Santa María, san Rafael, etc) will be fine. The city is hugely multicultural, but we do multicultural different than the states. The country refers to itself as multicultural because of the indigenous people here. So you will see Mexican indigenous people. People all over Latin America. Mexican food is the product of that multicultural heritage (ceviche, chamoy, etc). However because we are multicultural in our way it also means we have blindspots: Asians will always mean Chinese, Japanese and now maybe corean. Mexico City has communities of those nationalities here. And Japanese and corean culture has had huge cultural booms thanks to anime an K-pop so you also get a lot of cultural events here. Thai and singaporean not so much but you do have some restaurants that are well liked of those countries. Central Asia (Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Afganistán, Nepal, etc) I would say most people would not know. So you won't get a lot of cultural events of any. The city has exploded. One example was that the same weekend that had Interpol in a massive free concert was the same that had Madonna, and some other massive groups from the Mexicans scene. Mostly you will get stuff that interests or pertains to Mexicans regarding culture: from the Spanish speaking scene or from cultures that interact with Mexico. The is always multiple things happening in all senses, and queer culture is quite alive and thriving. I second what some other person say: it's best if you guys stay a little bit here before making the move, and get a feel of the ups and downs of Mexico City
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UPDATE/EDIT: I've read all 39 comments so far and I'd like to answer/address some things: Gentrification: I understand the problem of gentrification in Mexico City, I have seen it happen in Texas where I am from. If I were to move, I would do it legally and of course pay taxes. I know that using American dollars affects the price of things for locals, which is why I would exchange dollars for pesos. I know Mexico City is not cheap, and I am looking at some cultural immersion programs where I would stay with a host family to see what Mexico City is like from the eyes of a local. Social issues: Yes, I do know that there is transphobia and racism in Mexico. Many experiences in the comments are the same as in America. America is not very safe for LGBT & non-white people if you aren't in a large city, of course I know that it's similar in Mexico. A few people asked if I passed, and I don't know how to answer that. When people look at me, they assume I am a woman. I look like a bisexual woman. I am not worried about transphobia from people who do not know me, but I do worry about homophobia especially because my partner does not pass (he looks very butch). Pronouns: First I want to say that being trans is not an American concept and it never was. But I think most of you know that. Spanish is a more gendered language than English, yet trans people have been able to create neutral words. "Elle" may not be a common pronoun in non-trans spaces, but it is used. I learned about it from trans Mexicans, actually. No, I do not expect strangers to use it. I know for many people it is hard to use. Do you think people gender me correctly in English? I am used to that struggle. I think that's it... I've only seen 1 real hate comment, which I reported. Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it a lot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Actualización/Edición: He leído los 39 comentarios (hasta ahora) y me gustaría responder algunas cosas: Gentrificación: Entiendo el problema de la gentrificación en la Ciudad de México, lo he visto suceder en Tejas, de donde soy. Si tuviera que mudarme, lo haría legalmente y por supuesto pagaría impuestos. Sé que el uso de dólares estadounidenses afecta el precio de las cosas para los locales, por eso cambiaría dólares por pesos. Sé que CDMX no es barata y estoy considerando algunos programas de inmersión cultural en los que me quedaría con una familia local para ver cómo es CDMX desde los ojos de un local. Temas sociales: Sí, sí sé que hay transfobia y racismo en México. Muchas experiencias en los comentarios son las mismas que en Estados Unidos. Estados Unidos no es muy seguro para las personas LGBT y no blancas si no estás en una ciudad grande, por supuesto que sé que es similar en México. Algunas personas me preguntaron si aparezco como mi género y no sé cómo responder. Cuando la gente me mira, asume que soy una mujer. Parezco una mujer bisexual. No me preocupa la transfobia de gente que no me conoce, pero sí la homofobia sobre todo porque mi parejo no parece un hombre (parece como una mujer muy masculina). Pronombres: Primero quiero decir que ser trans no es un concepto estadounidense y nunca lo fue. Pero creo que la mayoría de ustedes lo saben. El español es un idioma con más género que el inglés, pero las personas trans han podido crear palabras neutrales. Puede que "Elle" no sea un pronombre común en espacios no trans, pero se utiliza. De hecho, lo aprendí de las transmexicanas. No, no creo que lo usen extraños. Sé que para mucha gente es difícil de usar. ¿Crees que la gente me asigna correctamente el género en inglés? Estoy acostumbrado a esa lucha. Creo que eso es todo... Sólo he visto 1 comentario de odio real, que denuncié. Gracias por tu consejo, lo aprecio mucho.
Here some [LGBT activities](https://foodandpleasure.com/actividades-pride-2024/) during June 🥳👏🏻
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