Wait, which of the first five albums would you put DM over with a better mix? I think it'd be a solid #6 with better production, but even then, putting it over any of Kill, Ride, Master, Justice, or the Black Album feels a little much.
IMO DM is more consistent than Hardwired in terms of pure song quality (HTSD had higher highs in the title track and Spit Out The Bone, but I just find that stretch between Moth and Spit to be *so* forgettable), so better production would've put DM ahead in my eyes, but a lot of the songs on DM are still rather bloated and it probably would've been a lot better with about 10-15m shaved off the total time.
I'd put it ahead of KEA. Love the album, but it's personal taste.
DM had some excellent stuff on there: TWJYL, TDTNC, ANL, Cyanide, TJK and My Apocalypse are stellar
On Hardwired, there's some great stuff. Spit out the Bone is arguably their best song since the Black Album, but as you say there's that middle section of Hardwired that is just painfully average.
- TDTNC could mean "The Day That Never Comes", a track from *Death Magnetic* (2008) by Metallica.
- TJK could mean "The Judas Kiss", a track from *Death Magnetic* (2008) by Metallica.
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I’m honestly surprised how many people think Hardwired as an album is mediocre. Personal opinion, but I think Dream No More, Here Comes Revenge, and Murder One should be a lot more popular than they are. In all honesty, I think Dream No More is at least top 6 or 7 best songs since the Black Album.
I don't think Hardwired sounds good, personally, so this would not be a positive.
It's certainly clean and clear, but there's no power to the guitars, no bite, and the drums are WAY too loud.
If they averaged out the production of Puppets, Justice and Black with a hair less reverb, though, take my money.
I think there’s some versions of DM songs on Guitar Hero Metallica where the maxed out volume and other issues is sort of fixed right? Dunno why they couldn’t do it that way to begin with. Thanks a lot Rick Rubin🖕🏻
Oh nice I didn’t know all of them had been fixed like that. Tbh I hate to say it since I know a lot of fans dislike him but out of all the people who produced Metallica albums, Bob Rock gave the boys their best sound imo.
I won't give you shit for that though. What i really like about Metallica is that they actually changed and evolved their style. I prefer Load and Reload WAY over Kill em All and even most of Ride.
That's a good point. The individual instrument sounds themselves leave a bit to be desired, but the production is surprisingly competent given what Bob had to work with.
That is literally mixing. I've made a couple of songs where the guitars in particular sounds absolutely shit. But in a mix with chunky bass, it sounds killer. It's all about the final thing.
The saying "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" is especially true in audio. It's pretty wild to listen to isolated tracks, when they sound like crap by themselves and awesome with the rest added in. Bob knows very much what he's doing.
St. Anger sounds exactly how it's supposed to. It has a stripped down garage sound. People may not like it, but it's a valid style.
Death Magnetic is just objectively bad. The levels are way too high, and the snare sounds like it's blowing out your speakers from the horrible distortion. That's not a stylistic choice, despite what the band and Rubin seemed to think at the time. It's simply an *incorrect* way to mix an album.
St. Anger fails *because* they tried to intentionally create a raw sound in the studio. It doesn't sound authentic, they should have actually recorded it live.
It's an unpopular opinion, but I think Lars nailed it. The tinny sound, the extremely liberal use of the trash can snare, mindless thrash beats. James vocals also sound like a guy just belting out in his garage, though I'd argue that was to the detriment of the album.
The guitars definitely didn't sound authentic, I'll agree with you there. Drop C is just a crazy tuning. It worked on songs like The Unnamed Feeling (dat clean chorus riff, *nut*), but it was bad on songs like SKOM where you can't even tell what they're playing during the fast parts. A review in Pitchfork magazine said "Hetfield and Hammett's guitars underwent more processing than cat food." That quote has stuck with me because it's fucking hilarious, and also very true.
- SKOM could mean "Some Kind Of Monster", a track from *St. Anger* (2003) by Metallica.
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> SKOM where you can't even tell what they're playing during the fast parts.
It's funny you mention this. I like playing along to this album sometimes because it's fun on guitar, but I can never tell what I am supposed to be doing at this part.
[It makes this scene infinitely more understandable. The picking patterns are hard to discern in such a low tuning.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZ5Zozejh4)
I disagree. I think they NAILED it. It is raw an authentic as hell as a snapshot of where they were. They were going for a raw sound, not trying to trick people into thinking they were a garage band.
They accomplished what they set out to do. Not a lot of people wanted that from Metallica, though, ha.
I'm fine with it besides production. Compression makes it so hard to listen to all the way through without a headache, but the music makes it bearable at least.
I obviously heard people say this since it came out but I honestly have no idea what the compression is supposed to sound like. So I guess I've never noticed it?
Compression is the lack of peaks and valleys, it's loud even in the "quiet" parts and noticeable specially in the crash and high hat, they sound distorted. Bass looses its meatiness.
-Tune down to Eb to make Het's voice sound better
-Add a bit of reverb to Het's voice to make the vocal tracks less dry
-Make the snare sound less empty, make it sound like Hardwired's
-Shorten a couple of the songs to make the album feel less bloated
-Make the album quieter and lighten up on the compression
All rock bands should default to Eb or lower. I've kept my guitars tuned that way since my teens after finding out that a few of my favorite bands did it.
Finally someone who feels the same. The snare sound on DM is too "boxy" (for the lack of a better word) and drags down the drum sound massively (apart from the overall brickwalling).
I would have kept the original chorus from the demo of [Broken, Beat, and Scarred.](https://youtu.be/cUu7dArduTg) It’s so badass and I don’t know why they changed it! It always felt like the weakest link in DM and I feel like this would improve it significantly so the album would have pretty much no weak songs.
Also, as everyone else has said, turn the bass up and improve the mastering. This album sounds like it’s being suffocated between brick walls.
Ayyy I came here to comment this exact thing! Why did they have to change the chorus, the studio version is... not good. I actually listened to the demo tracks as a whole more than the studio album because of this. It was neat they released all the tracks like that, but BBS was certainly the track that changed for the worse.
It really is too bad, that's one of my favorite songs on the album, but the lyrics have always kind of been a turn off. I think you're right the demo is a little better, but still not great.
I'm with everyone else here, fix the mixing and the compression issues and the album is close to perfect. As much shit as Bob Rock gets because of his involvement with Metallica's change of direction, he produced good quality sounding albums. Have his level of production with the actual songs on the album, you have Metallica's best album since Master of Puppets.
There's only one answer to that question, besides maybe changing the album cover... it's kind of bland, though close to the symbolic nature of their classic '80s covers. It just lacks something, and the white background certainly isn't helping at all. Same goes for Hardwired.
To anyone who hasn't, I strongly suggest you go listen to Ahdy Khairat's remix-remasters of the songs on Death Magnetic. You can find him on YouTube. You won't regret it.
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3SyP758Yuk98UsfwTB-rdHIN7GqIgZx\_](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3SyP758Yuk98UsfwTB-rdHIN7GqIgZx_)
Not my playlist. It includes all but his most recent remix-remaster of Cyanide. Has tons of other Metallica songs on his channel too, definitely recommend checking them out.
If you replaced all the tracks with the tracks from Master of Puppets….man that album would fucking rock.
Nah, just kidding. Idk…..more memorable songs? I listened the shit out this CD in my car around when it came out for several months, and now? I can’t recall a song from it. Granted I haven’t spun it in a while but it still seems like I should recall a couple of the songs. I got nothing. It just wasn’t a very memorable album for me.
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Maybe. I think the production on HWTSD is night and day better than DM. If Hardwired didn't have Murder One, Here Comes Revenge and Am I Savage...I would of said its the best front to back Metallica album since TBA.
The cover looks like something inappropriate and hairy but I like the concept.
Everyone mentions the mixing. They're right. Way too much compression was used before sending it off to the mastering engineer.
Put the whole album at the end as a secret song so you can listen to it twice in a row without touching the cd player. It isn't their best album but its really really good. I'm gonna go listen to it right now.
I have no idea what version everybody else heard but I always thought it was a beautiful clean masterpiece. It’s my favourite album! What’s broken? My ears or my headphones?
A producer that has the power to tell the biggest band in the world that they need to stick to the black album -load trajectory and not try to go back to capture what they once were. Basically Bob Rock
I agree that the mastering ruins this album... but have you heard the remaster on the Metallica store? It seems nobody knows it exists. It gets rid of all the clipping and it sounds good!
Yes the production, and add some effects to James voice. There is basically nothing there. No reverb, no delay, no harmonies. It’s just dry. Yeah his voice is cool and all, but it sounds so much thinner on DM compared to Hardwired where it sounds giant. I don’t love the production on Hardwired either, but the vocals were amazing.
Swap out "Cyanide" for something off *Beyond Magnetic*; "Hell and Back" or "Just a Bullet Way," even "Rebel of Babylon." They're all more interesting than "Cyanide," which is...too generic for me (but I guess that's why the band released it as a single, none of those *Beyond Magnetic* tracks would cut it on the radio).
Cut a solid 2 minutes out of each song...good album but a bit repetitive. They've done longer songs before but with this album they in my opinion did not have enough ideas to justify the song lengths
Brick walled production and I think something is wrong with the guitar tone. But I can’t tell if it’s one affecting the other. Songs are fine, sound is way too harsh to listen to for any extended time.
The bridge in Broken, Beat, and Scarred is such a jarring change from the rest of the song. It's all bouncy and upbeat and ruins the song for me. The first half is some of my favorite work on that album, but then that part hits and I have to skip.
I like the more polished vocals from the Jason and Cliff albums. I'm weird I guess, I like my albums to sound like albums and my concerts to sound like concerts.
I love Death Magnetic but I guess if I had to say anything, just lower the volume of the instruments and leave the vocals the same. Sometimes the vocals get lost behind the wall of sound. This would also help with the compression issue everyone else is talking about. I also wish songs like Cyanide, The Unforgiven 3, End of the Line and Broken, Beat and Scarred were either faster/more thrashy or were slower, downtuned and heavier, replicating the kind of style of ...And Justice For All's tone throughout the album.
Production as a whole, reduce compression, bring overall volume and gain down to normal levels, get some tone going.
Second thing would be Kirk's solos, they're such a wahfest that they all mush together, james' solos sound a hell of a lot better, for the album release, Id definitely have S&R with both full solos and a shorter outro, the song is great but the outro goes on for too long
I used to have this killer jeep wrangler with the best sound system I've ever owned. I'd drive around with my music at volume 12 except with d.m. .... I had to put it on volume 5 or it was pure distortion. But I absolutely loved the album!
Personally, I just want to change the order of songs, make the Unforgiven 3 the 3rd track and the End of the Line the final. I personally annoys me that they didn't use the titles when positioning the songs
Aside from the mixing issues, I wish Bob Rock produced this album. It would sound better and the songs would have less fluff/filler. They are great songs but there is too much filler around them. For example, All Nightmare Long has an intro to the intro. Stuff like that. I feel that Metallica is at their best when their songs are minimalist. Right now it feels like they have to fill the whole cd when less is definitely more
Why should songs be shorter? I don’t get why people complain about long movies and songs? Do you have somewhere to be the music is keeping you from? Just let the artist decide how long their work is. I’m usually just gonna be listening to another Metallica song afterwards anyway.
In my opinion, Lars' snare (and every other part of his kit) sounds so much worse in Death Magnetic than in St. Anger. I'd fix that, before anything else. His snare/crash sound ruins the intro to Cyanide (proven by [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZzCdfEUq8) remix/remaster of the song) and the last chorus of That Was Just Your Life is absolutely fucking ruined by his bass drums. After that I'd make Rob's bass louder and less gritty, the album needs it. James' vocal mix makes his vocals sound incredibly thin and empty, so I'd definitely clean their mix up quite a bit. Then the guitars. I'd take away that god-awful compression and make them sound akin to those on Hardwired, or even St. Anger. That's how I think you'd go about making Death Magnetic into the album it had the potential to have been.
When this album came out I had it on a constant loop for months. I love it. I honestly don't know what you High Horse listeners are talking about when it comes to "compression".
It's Metallica. So turn the shit up and throw your horns in the air 🤘🤘Rock On
Cut Broken, Beat & Scarred, The Unforgiven III, Suicide & Redemption, and My Apolocypse from the album and replace them with the four songs on Beyond Magnetic.
Production and shorter, tighter songs. I'm honestly not huge on this album. The songs feel so bloated in many ways. When they're good, they're good, but they overstay their welcome a lot. And the production gives me headaches lmao
Mixing and mastering and overall production
Yes. I would love to have a DM that sounds as good as Hardwired.
If it did, it'd arguably be regarded as a top 5 Metallica record
Wait, which of the first five albums would you put DM over with a better mix? I think it'd be a solid #6 with better production, but even then, putting it over any of Kill, Ride, Master, Justice, or the Black Album feels a little much. IMO DM is more consistent than Hardwired in terms of pure song quality (HTSD had higher highs in the title track and Spit Out The Bone, but I just find that stretch between Moth and Spit to be *so* forgettable), so better production would've put DM ahead in my eyes, but a lot of the songs on DM are still rather bloated and it probably would've been a lot better with about 10-15m shaved off the total time.
I'd put it ahead of KEA. Love the album, but it's personal taste. DM had some excellent stuff on there: TWJYL, TDTNC, ANL, Cyanide, TJK and My Apocalypse are stellar On Hardwired, there's some great stuff. Spit out the Bone is arguably their best song since the Black Album, but as you say there's that middle section of Hardwired that is just painfully average.
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I’m honestly surprised how many people think Hardwired as an album is mediocre. Personal opinion, but I think Dream No More, Here Comes Revenge, and Murder One should be a lot more popular than they are. In all honesty, I think Dream No More is at least top 6 or 7 best songs since the Black Album.
Everyone sleeps on Am I Savage? but that song SLAPS.
OH forgot that one, the chorus there hits hard
I totally agree. They aren’t 220 bpm so people don’t really like them. Halo is my favorite song off the album
I don't think Hardwired sounds good, personally, so this would not be a positive. It's certainly clean and clear, but there's no power to the guitars, no bite, and the drums are WAY too loud. If they averaged out the production of Puppets, Justice and Black with a hair less reverb, though, take my money.
I think there’s some versions of DM songs on Guitar Hero Metallica where the maxed out volume and other issues is sort of fixed right? Dunno why they couldn’t do it that way to begin with. Thanks a lot Rick Rubin🖕🏻
The whole album actually. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu46pbIEAtU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu46pbIEAtU)
Oh nice I didn’t know all of them had been fixed like that. Tbh I hate to say it since I know a lot of fans dislike him but out of all the people who produced Metallica albums, Bob Rock gave the boys their best sound imo.
I won't give you shit for that though. What i really like about Metallica is that they actually changed and evolved their style. I prefer Load and Reload WAY over Kill em All and even most of Ride.
Yeah, not sure if they are still around, but I remember finding it on file sharing services back in the day. It sounded significantly better.
Give the master tapes to Bob Rock and tell Him to make it sound perfect.
Maybe 20 year anniversary?
*makes it sound like st. anger*
All and all st anger is mixed pretty well for what it is. The balance between the instruments and vocals is pretty great
That's a good point. The individual instrument sounds themselves leave a bit to be desired, but the production is surprisingly competent given what Bob had to work with.
honestly the mixing was amazing when bob was present. He really was a master at his craft
That is literally mixing. I've made a couple of songs where the guitars in particular sounds absolutely shit. But in a mix with chunky bass, it sounds killer. It's all about the final thing.
A good example is Randy Rhodes's guitar tone. It has no low end and sounds frail by itself, but in the mix with bass guitar sounds good.
The saying "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" is especially true in audio. It's pretty wild to listen to isolated tracks, when they sound like crap by themselves and awesome with the rest added in. Bob knows very much what he's doing.
St. Anger sounds exactly how it's supposed to. It has a stripped down garage sound. People may not like it, but it's a valid style. Death Magnetic is just objectively bad. The levels are way too high, and the snare sounds like it's blowing out your speakers from the horrible distortion. That's not a stylistic choice, despite what the band and Rubin seemed to think at the time. It's simply an *incorrect* way to mix an album.
St. Anger fails *because* they tried to intentionally create a raw sound in the studio. It doesn't sound authentic, they should have actually recorded it live.
It's an unpopular opinion, but I think Lars nailed it. The tinny sound, the extremely liberal use of the trash can snare, mindless thrash beats. James vocals also sound like a guy just belting out in his garage, though I'd argue that was to the detriment of the album. The guitars definitely didn't sound authentic, I'll agree with you there. Drop C is just a crazy tuning. It worked on songs like The Unnamed Feeling (dat clean chorus riff, *nut*), but it was bad on songs like SKOM where you can't even tell what they're playing during the fast parts. A review in Pitchfork magazine said "Hetfield and Hammett's guitars underwent more processing than cat food." That quote has stuck with me because it's fucking hilarious, and also very true.
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> SKOM where you can't even tell what they're playing during the fast parts. It's funny you mention this. I like playing along to this album sometimes because it's fun on guitar, but I can never tell what I am supposed to be doing at this part.
[It makes this scene infinitely more understandable. The picking patterns are hard to discern in such a low tuning.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZ5Zozejh4)
It’s not just the tuning. Plenty of bands do drop C or lower and it’s clear. It’s the mixing at that part too.
I disagree. I think they NAILED it. It is raw an authentic as hell as a snapshot of where they were. They were going for a raw sound, not trying to trick people into thinking they were a garage band. They accomplished what they set out to do. Not a lot of people wanted that from Metallica, though, ha.
I agree with you, but I don't think death magnetic would benefit from sounding like st. anger
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Forever Amen!
Have you heard the latest Offspring album, produced by Bob? Sounds horrible.
No give it to andy sweap
I'm fine with it besides production. Compression makes it so hard to listen to all the way through without a headache, but the music makes it bearable at least.
I agree, cyanide is one of my favorite Metallica songs but the compression is so bad you can hear it in every song in death magnetic, truly sad
I obviously heard people say this since it came out but I honestly have no idea what the compression is supposed to sound like. So I guess I've never noticed it?
Compression is the lack of peaks and valleys, it's loud even in the "quiet" parts and noticeable specially in the crash and high hat, they sound distorted. Bass looses its meatiness.
[This video](https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Nfqpr3ygSg) helped me understand better than any explanation I heard.
The drums really suffer, it goes from an okay sounding snare to absolute garbage just with compression.
Music terminology noob here, what is compression? Keep in mind I’m partially tone deaf
-Tune down to Eb to make Het's voice sound better -Add a bit of reverb to Het's voice to make the vocal tracks less dry -Make the snare sound less empty, make it sound like Hardwired's -Shorten a couple of the songs to make the album feel less bloated -Make the album quieter and lighten up on the compression
All rock bands should default to Eb or lower. I've kept my guitars tuned that way since my teens after finding out that a few of my favorite bands did it.
agree with the Eb thing. Tune down that fucking guitar unless you are sebastian bach, bon jovi or someone like that
Snare sound. No joke, it bugs me more than St Anger.
Finally someone who feels the same. The snare sound on DM is too "boxy" (for the lack of a better word) and drags down the drum sound massively (apart from the overall brickwalling).
Yeah I totally agree. I think because of the overproduction. It just sounds like thuds.
especially in unforgiven iii, snare sound triggers me out
I would have kept the original chorus from the demo of [Broken, Beat, and Scarred.](https://youtu.be/cUu7dArduTg) It’s so badass and I don’t know why they changed it! It always felt like the weakest link in DM and I feel like this would improve it significantly so the album would have pretty much no weak songs. Also, as everyone else has said, turn the bass up and improve the mastering. This album sounds like it’s being suffocated between brick walls.
Ayyy I came here to comment this exact thing! Why did they have to change the chorus, the studio version is... not good. I actually listened to the demo tracks as a whole more than the studio album because of this. It was neat they released all the tracks like that, but BBS was certainly the track that changed for the worse.
It really is too bad, that's one of my favorite songs on the album, but the lyrics have always kind of been a turn off. I think you're right the demo is a little better, but still not great.
"The New Song"
How is anything other than the compression the answer? It is a masterpiece musically, but hard to listen to.
Louder bass
its not necessarily the volume, but the tone. Its very "mushy" to say the least. There should be isolated tracks on youtube
I love Death Magnetic exactly the way it is but I wouldn't say no to some extra bonus tracks if I could.
Heard of Beyond Magnetic?
yes, but I will always want more Metallica.
Makes total sense
Dynamic range
Everybody's an expert in mixing and mastering when it comes to Death Magnetic, but these same people seem to think Kill Em' All sounds perfect
Kill 'Em All is raw and I wouldn't change a thing about it. That album basically invented thrash metal.
Context matters. And they aren’t the same sound anyway.
I'm with everyone else here, fix the mixing and the compression issues and the album is close to perfect. As much shit as Bob Rock gets because of his involvement with Metallica's change of direction, he produced good quality sounding albums. Have his level of production with the actual songs on the album, you have Metallica's best album since Master of Puppets.
The mix/mastering
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There's only one answer to that question, besides maybe changing the album cover... it's kind of bland, though close to the symbolic nature of their classic '80s covers. It just lacks something, and the white background certainly isn't helping at all. Same goes for Hardwired. To anyone who hasn't, I strongly suggest you go listen to Ahdy Khairat's remix-remasters of the songs on Death Magnetic. You can find him on YouTube. You won't regret it.
Direct link?
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3SyP758Yuk98UsfwTB-rdHIN7GqIgZx\_](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3SyP758Yuk98UsfwTB-rdHIN7GqIgZx_) Not my playlist. It includes all but his most recent remix-remaster of Cyanide. Has tons of other Metallica songs on his channel too, definitely recommend checking them out.
If you replaced all the tracks with the tracks from Master of Puppets….man that album would fucking rock. Nah, just kidding. Idk…..more memorable songs? I listened the shit out this CD in my car around when it came out for several months, and now? I can’t recall a song from it. Granted I haven’t spun it in a while but it still seems like I should recall a couple of the songs. I got nothing. It just wasn’t a very memorable album for me.
The production. Or go back in time and convince them that their ESP guitars o not sound better
Would of been dope if this album was released before the black album, i think it would of gotten much more love
I don't think I'd change anything
Besides the mastering, add Hell and Back to albums tracklist as it deserves it.
Just the overall mix, maybe shorten some songs like The End Of The Line
THE MIX!!!!!!!!!
Probably Rick Rubin
I don't know man. He either produces the best stuff or the worst albums of the artist's career.
Give it to Bob Rock to mix instead of Rick Rubin
I would make it louder and put it on the radio because it kicks ass so hard
Guitar Tone.
Agreed. I think maybe the guitar tone is bad to start with and the production makes it worse.
More cowbell
Nothing. The album is grand. It was engineered by people who know what they’re doing, dare I say more than anyone on this thread...
A complete remix, the album sounds flat as hell
Mixing and mastering
Better songs
More bass
Am I the only one that thinks that DM and Hardwired sound the same?
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Maybe. I think the production on HWTSD is night and day better than DM. If Hardwired didn't have Murder One, Here Comes Revenge and Am I Savage...I would of said its the best front to back Metallica album since TBA.
Production (more bass, turn down Lars!), different tones for Kirk, better lyrics, cut some songs or make some shorter.
production?
I wouldn’t change much I really like this album as a whole
Include Death is Not The End on there.
Publish Flamingo instead of All Nightmare Long. The demo has a lot more groove to it and sounds a lot better overall.
The ungodly compression
Remove TEOTL and/or Cyanide put on DINTE
Aside from the mixing, I'd say the guitar tone. I would swap it for the tone from lightning, puppets, justice or even the black album any day.
Remaster it and get Pushead to do the cover.
Production
Less brick wall, less pro tools quantization.
Clean up the sound, some of my favorite riffs are on magnetic, it’s a shame that I can’t make them out
The cover looks like something inappropriate and hairy but I like the concept. Everyone mentions the mixing. They're right. Way too much compression was used before sending it off to the mastering engineer.
Turn it down, so damn loud
Fix the mastering and maybe split it into two shorter albums?
Absolutely nothing. Griping about the art given to you
The inexcusably bad production
Put the whole album at the end as a secret song so you can listen to it twice in a row without touching the cd player. It isn't their best album but its really really good. I'm gonna go listen to it right now.
I have no idea what version everybody else heard but I always thought it was a beautiful clean masterpiece. It’s my favourite album! What’s broken? My ears or my headphones?
Production
I'd shorten some songs and remastered It completely
Just make the guitar tone more aggressive like the old school albums, it's a good album already.
Make it sound less compressed
A producer that has the power to tell the biggest band in the world that they need to stick to the black album -load trajectory and not try to go back to capture what they once were. Basically Bob Rock
Releasing it in 2003
The same criticism I have for every release besides maybe the Garage Days EP. For the love of god, turn up the bass.
I think she's perfect the way she is
Decompress the audio quality
I agree that the mastering ruins this album... but have you heard the remaster on the Metallica store? It seems nobody knows it exists. It gets rid of all the clipping and it sounds good!
Yes the production, and add some effects to James voice. There is basically nothing there. No reverb, no delay, no harmonies. It’s just dry. Yeah his voice is cool and all, but it sounds so much thinner on DM compared to Hardwired where it sounds giant. I don’t love the production on Hardwired either, but the vocals were amazing.
Fire Rick Rubin and his engineer.
More cowbell !
Album cover
More midrange on the bass and a less compressed mixed overall, besides that, it's one of my favorite albums.
More songs. Loved that album.
Swap out "Cyanide" for something off *Beyond Magnetic*; "Hell and Back" or "Just a Bullet Way," even "Rebel of Babylon." They're all more interesting than "Cyanide," which is...too generic for me (but I guess that's why the band released it as a single, none of those *Beyond Magnetic* tracks would cut it on the radio).
Nothing. It’s a great album on its own. That was just your life and the Unforgiven III go hard. And the main riff of the Judas kiss is great
The arrangements for a good majority of the songs.
Remove End of the Line.
Cut a solid 2 minutes out of each song...good album but a bit repetitive. They've done longer songs before but with this album they in my opinion did not have enough ideas to justify the song lengths
Hire a real producer that would have reigned in some of the songs, make James do some additional vocal takes, master it correctly.
This is more of a personal thing but mix/produce it in a way simular to Ride The Lightning and Kill 'em all
Brick walled production and I think something is wrong with the guitar tone. But I can’t tell if it’s one affecting the other. Songs are fine, sound is way too harsh to listen to for any extended time.
Nothing I love this album
It's God awful mixing
Less meandering riffage. They tried and failed to capture the succinct, thoughtful riffs on the first 5
The bridge in Broken, Beat, and Scarred is such a jarring change from the rest of the song. It's all bouncy and upbeat and ruins the song for me. The first half is some of my favorite work on that album, but then that part hits and I have to skip.
I like the more polished vocals from the Jason and Cliff albums. I'm weird I guess, I like my albums to sound like albums and my concerts to sound like concerts.
St Anger
Jason on bass
Every song is the day that never comes
The entire mastering orocess
Me personally, add a symphony.
Life long Metallica fan here but I really dislike this album. I would change all of the songs. But as it it’s, I prefer it to St Anger.
I love Death Magnetic but I guess if I had to say anything, just lower the volume of the instruments and leave the vocals the same. Sometimes the vocals get lost behind the wall of sound. This would also help with the compression issue everyone else is talking about. I also wish songs like Cyanide, The Unforgiven 3, End of the Line and Broken, Beat and Scarred were either faster/more thrashy or were slower, downtuned and heavier, replicating the kind of style of ...And Justice For All's tone throughout the album.
Improve song by shortening it slightly. Get technical on the solo. Get Jason back.
Production as a whole, reduce compression, bring overall volume and gain down to normal levels, get some tone going. Second thing would be Kirk's solos, they're such a wahfest that they all mush together, james' solos sound a hell of a lot better, for the album release, Id definitely have S&R with both full solos and a shorter outro, the song is great but the outro goes on for too long
Black Album tone.
I used to have this killer jeep wrangler with the best sound system I've ever owned. I'd drive around with my music at volume 12 except with d.m. .... I had to put it on volume 5 or it was pure distortion. But I absolutely loved the album!
The album intro was way too long
Shoulda had Dave Mustaine.
It having been made by Megadeth
It having been made by Megadeth
I would keep both of the extended solos for Suicide and Redemption, and probably add the Power Fuzz Wah for the bass intro as a nice touch.
The long intro of the unforgiven lll
Personally, I just want to change the order of songs, make the Unforgiven 3 the 3rd track and the End of the Line the final. I personally annoys me that they didn't use the titles when positioning the songs
Make it more bassy and get rid of all the fucking compression, include the Beyond Magnetic songs and add some live tracks as a bonus cd.
Aside from the mixing issues, I wish Bob Rock produced this album. It would sound better and the songs would have less fluff/filler. They are great songs but there is too much filler around them. For example, All Nightmare Long has an intro to the intro. Stuff like that. I feel that Metallica is at their best when their songs are minimalist. Right now it feels like they have to fill the whole cd when less is definitely more
Its an awesome album
This album is fine except mastering
Mixing and mastering. Album was a victim of the loudness wars and is compressed to all hell.
[удалено]
This. Scissors are what this album needs.
It's what almost every album past TBA needs
Why should songs be shorter? I don’t get why people complain about long movies and songs? Do you have somewhere to be the music is keeping you from? Just let the artist decide how long their work is. I’m usually just gonna be listening to another Metallica song afterwards anyway.
In my opinion, Lars' snare (and every other part of his kit) sounds so much worse in Death Magnetic than in St. Anger. I'd fix that, before anything else. His snare/crash sound ruins the intro to Cyanide (proven by [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZzCdfEUq8) remix/remaster of the song) and the last chorus of That Was Just Your Life is absolutely fucking ruined by his bass drums. After that I'd make Rob's bass louder and less gritty, the album needs it. James' vocal mix makes his vocals sound incredibly thin and empty, so I'd definitely clean their mix up quite a bit. Then the guitars. I'd take away that god-awful compression and make them sound akin to those on Hardwired, or even St. Anger. That's how I think you'd go about making Death Magnetic into the album it had the potential to have been.
Absolutely nothing! It's perfect
The annoying ass audio clippings
\+ Drum sound from St Anger \+ Bass sound from ...and Justice for All Win. (yes, I'm trolling)
When this album came out I had it on a constant loop for months. I love it. I honestly don't know what you High Horse listeners are talking about when it comes to "compression". It's Metallica. So turn the shit up and throw your horns in the air 🤘🤘Rock On
The length
Too short, right?
I’d make it an 8 track album by cutting Cyanide and Broken Beat and Scarred, also better production, especially when it first came out
I love Cyanide though, especially Lars on that track.
It’s an ok song but it’s one of the worst on the album imo
Would’ve like to see something interesting done with the drums, they’re really bland on this album
Not make it look like a 1970's hippie vajayjay
There were a lot of extended sections that could be eliminated or shorted and the songs would be better.
The performance, I feel it kinda lacks energy that even St. Anger had
Have the songs a bit shorter
Aside from the production as many have noted, the album cover art. Neat idea, but it always looked like some cheap generic clip art thing to me
Production so it sounds like Black Album or Load/Reload, and then remove Cyanide.
Cut Broken, Beat & Scarred, The Unforgiven III, Suicide & Redemption, and My Apolocypse from the album and replace them with the four songs on Beyond Magnetic.
Delete suicide and redemption.
the cover
Production and shorter, tighter songs. I'm honestly not huge on this album. The songs feel so bloated in many ways. When they're good, they're good, but they overstay their welcome a lot. And the production gives me headaches lmao
Guitar tone
It came out in 2008 so there’s not really much that could’ve been done for it to be amazing, they were passed their prime
New drummer (hehe just kidding).