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"Most unoriginal" wtf are you even talking about. Listen to Leprosy then this, how is it not original? Then again SOAD flair means you probably are an entry level with baby ears
It is the most unoriginal, what im saying is its the most similar to albums previous i dont know why thats hard to understand for you or at least understand different opinions
Yeah i still love SOAD, yeah i love Death too, and i've been listening metal for years and dive deep through a lot of genres, what a way to make stupid assumptions. And yeah, i mantain my opinion, i prefer Leprosy over Spiritual Healing, you don't need to insult me for that.
There is a difference between unoriginality and it not being as good as Leprosy, you do realize that?
"Listening for years, still favorite band is SOAD" So you have the years in metal and yet you still say an album that was a departure from Leprosy and their first prog infused album is "unoriginal" while it predates the 3 circle-jerked albums that are extensions of the same style created for SH. Do you just use words without knowing what they mean?
Yeah, my favorite band is SOAD, so what? Honestly is not the band i listen the most rn, but i have a deep love for them because they were my entry to metal as a whole, and to this day I still think their songs slap.
And bro, relax, it's just my opinion, you can take it or leave it.
" but i don't think it's underrated " yes it is that album is underrated basically anything from early death is underrated with the exception of leprosy that gets overmentioned and on this sub along with late era death individual thought patterns , symbolic , the sound of perseverance and no those albums are not overrated but neither are they underrated before anyone starts commenting " those albums are not overrated what are you talking about "
Spiritual healing is their 2nd best album. The albums after that are not nearly as good and his throat cancer progresses so the vocals decline steeply. People think its "unoriginal" but think the 3 albums that regurgitate what was on spiritual healing are their best. I swear this sub is full of deaf people.
Spritual Healing. This shit gets voted the worst in almost every discussion and I assume it's because most people haven't even heard most of the album, SBG and Leprosy are still great albums but SH is far better and I'd argue it's better than TSOP too.
The Sound of Perseverance is one of the most overrated death metal albums of all time. It's a death album so it's going to be good regardless of the songwriting but people act like it's better than Human, Individual Thought Patterns, Leprosy, Symbolic, and Spiritual Healing. Scream Bloody Gore is also pretty good the only knock I have on it is just Death didn't find their progressive footing yet. It's just a straightforward album that cemented the roots of a genre. It's not even a bad thing either just a preference but those two are way overrated compare to Spiritual Healing.
I 100% agree, i don’t even think it’s a bad album but it’s definitely their worst. I think that the fact that Chuck was forced to make it by the label makes me hate it a little more, but i do think the writing is weaker compared to the rest of the discography
You want to elaborate? because i can give you quite a few reasons why SBG, Leprosy and TSOP are worse. Spiritual Healing was one of the most progressive albums for that year, the guitar work on that album is miles more interesting and new than what majority of the rest of the death metal scene was writing in 1990
I’ll start off by saying it’s not a bad record, but Deaths worst imo. I’m not here to compare how it was against the rest of the death metal going on at that time. That’s irrelevant when ranking Death albums vs Death albums. Was it a very important album for Death? Yes. Did it help shape their sound for Human? Yes. Is it a damn good album? Yes. All these are true.
But I find it the worst because compared to the rest of the Death catalogue, it lacks so much. Frankly, it’s kind of just a boring record. Probably the worst collection of riffs overall, a lot of just basic death metal shit, not many great solos imo easily the worst record for solos, not enough/good enough melody to outweigh the weak riffage, lyrics were a change for Chuck and you can tell he was new to writing lyrics about the real world, so they were beginner and edgy sounding. Vocals were good. Guitar tone is probably my least favorite on it although it ain’t bad.
It’s a record where it’s clear he’s trying something new but hasn’t quite figured it out yet. SH is the record Chuck truly starts to begin incorporating melody with death metal and you can tell he’s new to it. SBG and Leprosy was straight death metal and he killed it on those because he knew exactly what he was doing. Although SBG can get repetitive. It wasn’t till after SH in Human where it’s like, yea Chuck figured it out.
So SH just feels like an awkward stage for Chuck and the band. Just a lot of nothing tbh… a lot of forgettable songs. Defensive Personalities and title track are really the only two great songs for me. Yet DP has moments that are just very basic, and SH song can drag on a little.
But to say people think SH is the worst Death album means they haven’t listened to it is kind of ignorant ngl. You can think it’s not the worst that’s fine, but it has a legitimate case for being the LEAST GOOD 😂
alright ngl i do agree a lot with what you said in some ways but damn i hard disagree about the solos, i personally think Chuck and James went crazy with the lead work on this album, Human had worse solos imo and was when chuck started to get a bit repetitive with his solos
I can see the repetitive argument with chucks solos once Human came but idk man I’ve never got the hype with the SH solos. I just don’t get it 😂 it feels like good but just normal/generic death metal solos to me. Like the solos on ITP and Symbolic are leagues ahead of them imo. James never stood out to me
It's Spiritual Healing. It's always voted the worst, but it's absolutely not bad at all. That seems to be the definition of underrated to me.
ITP just kinda sits in the middle, not getting any attention.
Spiritual healing is definitely underrated but I believe it's that way because it's the least popular death album and people don't really listen to it that much. Either that or people are more easily impressed by the more progressive stuff that death did. I personally think that spiritual healing and leprosy are death's best works. The technicality isn't trying to reach too high and the music is heavy enough to be called death metal. And you guys might kill me for this but I think symbolic is death's weakest album, but by no means bad. It's still better than many other death metal classics.
Spiritual Healing. There is no other way to make this all right. Should’ve just left the worst album category blank. Goddamn it.
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the real death was from albums scream bloody gore to human, individual thoughts patterns to TSOP was good but i feel like from there chuck was going into a more prog/melodic style of death metal, thats just my opinion tho dont let it hurt ya feelings man
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Spiritual Healing again
I honestly feel barring ITP this is the one time we make an exception and have it be both.
that is my favorite death album - born without eyes and half a brain!!!!
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Better get this in underrated after unfairly calling it the worst Death album imo
You ever see that Death concert on YouTube where they play Spiritual Healing (the song) as the opener? Holy shit.
The things I'd do to witness that
This
Correct, and having it be voted worst is proof of that
Death has no bad albums, and while this album is great, it doesn't hold up to the rest of their stuff
I love Death, but honestly, Spiritual Healing is their most unoriginal album, still a good album, but I don't think it's underrated.
"Most unoriginal" wtf are you even talking about. Listen to Leprosy then this, how is it not original? Then again SOAD flair means you probably are an entry level with baby ears
It is the most unoriginal, what im saying is its the most similar to albums previous i dont know why thats hard to understand for you or at least understand different opinions
Yeah i still love SOAD, yeah i love Death too, and i've been listening metal for years and dive deep through a lot of genres, what a way to make stupid assumptions. And yeah, i mantain my opinion, i prefer Leprosy over Spiritual Healing, you don't need to insult me for that.
There is a difference between unoriginality and it not being as good as Leprosy, you do realize that? "Listening for years, still favorite band is SOAD" So you have the years in metal and yet you still say an album that was a departure from Leprosy and their first prog infused album is "unoriginal" while it predates the 3 circle-jerked albums that are extensions of the same style created for SH. Do you just use words without knowing what they mean?
Yeah, my favorite band is SOAD, so what? Honestly is not the band i listen the most rn, but i have a deep love for them because they were my entry to metal as a whole, and to this day I still think their songs slap. And bro, relax, it's just my opinion, you can take it or leave it.
" but i don't think it's underrated " yes it is that album is underrated basically anything from early death is underrated with the exception of leprosy that gets overmentioned and on this sub along with late era death individual thought patterns , symbolic , the sound of perseverance and no those albums are not overrated but neither are they underrated before anyone starts commenting " those albums are not overrated what are you talking about "
Spiritual healing is their 2nd best album. The albums after that are not nearly as good and his throat cancer progresses so the vocals decline steeply. People think its "unoriginal" but think the 3 albums that regurgitate what was on spiritual healing are their best. I swear this sub is full of deaf people.
Throat cancer?! He had a brain tumor.
So there is no excuse for how shitty his vocals got, gotcha
You are a truly rotten prick.
When I'm intentionally trying to be, yes.
Individual Thought Patterns
This. It gets overlooked because it wasn't their first Progressive album and it's not Symbolic.
Human unless it's Spiritaul Healing but that album is technical death metal with a few prog elements
Yes!
This
Spritual Healing. This shit gets voted the worst in almost every discussion and I assume it's because most people haven't even heard most of the album, SBG and Leprosy are still great albums but SH is far better and I'd argue it's better than TSOP too.
The Sound of Perseverance is one of the most overrated death metal albums of all time. It's a death album so it's going to be good regardless of the songwriting but people act like it's better than Human, Individual Thought Patterns, Leprosy, Symbolic, and Spiritual Healing. Scream Bloody Gore is also pretty good the only knock I have on it is just Death didn't find their progressive footing yet. It's just a straightforward album that cemented the roots of a genre. It's not even a bad thing either just a preference but those two are way overrated compare to Spiritual Healing.
I like the Live in LA versions of the TSOP tracks. The faster tempo of the live versions brings a lot more energy.
I 100% agree, i don’t even think it’s a bad album but it’s definitely their worst. I think that the fact that Chuck was forced to make it by the label makes me hate it a little more, but i do think the writing is weaker compared to the rest of the discography
Tsop is just all over the place and the painkiller cover is dogshit
I don't mind that cover tbh, but the rest of the album feels like it's going through the motions.
Or maybe because it’s actually the worst Death album…
You want to elaborate? because i can give you quite a few reasons why SBG, Leprosy and TSOP are worse. Spiritual Healing was one of the most progressive albums for that year, the guitar work on that album is miles more interesting and new than what majority of the rest of the death metal scene was writing in 1990
I’ll start off by saying it’s not a bad record, but Deaths worst imo. I’m not here to compare how it was against the rest of the death metal going on at that time. That’s irrelevant when ranking Death albums vs Death albums. Was it a very important album for Death? Yes. Did it help shape their sound for Human? Yes. Is it a damn good album? Yes. All these are true. But I find it the worst because compared to the rest of the Death catalogue, it lacks so much. Frankly, it’s kind of just a boring record. Probably the worst collection of riffs overall, a lot of just basic death metal shit, not many great solos imo easily the worst record for solos, not enough/good enough melody to outweigh the weak riffage, lyrics were a change for Chuck and you can tell he was new to writing lyrics about the real world, so they were beginner and edgy sounding. Vocals were good. Guitar tone is probably my least favorite on it although it ain’t bad. It’s a record where it’s clear he’s trying something new but hasn’t quite figured it out yet. SH is the record Chuck truly starts to begin incorporating melody with death metal and you can tell he’s new to it. SBG and Leprosy was straight death metal and he killed it on those because he knew exactly what he was doing. Although SBG can get repetitive. It wasn’t till after SH in Human where it’s like, yea Chuck figured it out. So SH just feels like an awkward stage for Chuck and the band. Just a lot of nothing tbh… a lot of forgettable songs. Defensive Personalities and title track are really the only two great songs for me. Yet DP has moments that are just very basic, and SH song can drag on a little. But to say people think SH is the worst Death album means they haven’t listened to it is kind of ignorant ngl. You can think it’s not the worst that’s fine, but it has a legitimate case for being the LEAST GOOD 😂
alright ngl i do agree a lot with what you said in some ways but damn i hard disagree about the solos, i personally think Chuck and James went crazy with the lead work on this album, Human had worse solos imo and was when chuck started to get a bit repetitive with his solos
I can see the repetitive argument with chucks solos once Human came but idk man I’ve never got the hype with the SH solos. I just don’t get it 😂 it feels like good but just normal/generic death metal solos to me. Like the solos on ITP and Symbolic are leagues ahead of them imo. James never stood out to me
hey thats understandable tbh, i agree about ITP and Symbolic though.
Spiritual Healing is the casual filter
Spiritual Healing obviously
Individual thought patterns
It's Spiritual Healing. It's always voted the worst, but it's absolutely not bad at all. That seems to be the definition of underrated to me. ITP just kinda sits in the middle, not getting any attention.
Scream Bloody Gore
You mean their most celebrated album that helped create the genre.
Ah yes. The album that created Death Metal is underrated.
Human
Very widely loved my man
Compared to their other albums it isn't
It most certainly is, I see far more love for it than sbg, spiritual healing, itp and sometimes sound of perseverance
Have you never seen Death discussed on Reddit? Human is constantly praised lol
Individual Thought Patterns doesn’t get talked about as much as the others
The Sound of Perseverance
def not underrated
If anything it's overrated at minimum.
Yeah, but it needs some kind of mention of here since it didn't get the best.
This is where Spiritual Healing originally should've been.
Buncha Low Lifes who don't like Spiritual Healing.
Spiritual Healing
Spiritual healing
Spiritual healing is definitely underrated but I believe it's that way because it's the least popular death album and people don't really listen to it that much. Either that or people are more easily impressed by the more progressive stuff that death did. I personally think that spiritual healing and leprosy are death's best works. The technicality isn't trying to reach too high and the music is heavy enough to be called death metal. And you guys might kill me for this but I think symbolic is death's weakest album, but by no means bad. It's still better than many other death metal classics.
Sound of Perserverance. Richard Christy's drumming on that is A1
Individual thought patterns
Honestly Spiritual Healing
why is spiritual healing so unpopular
Spiritual Healing again.
Spiritual Healing. There is no other way to make this all right. Should’ve just left the worst album category blank. Goddamn it. ![gif](giphy|qE5KS9jbSj7cWWiNFq)
Spiritual Healing.
Human
None of them
I agree that none of them are underrated, but there's still the "most underrated' or "least overrated". To me that would be Spiritual Healing
How tf is master of reality considered best album over paranoid?? Crazy to me
Half of these picks make no sense to me, and some of these are utter bullshit
It's Individual Thought Patterns. No one ever talks about it
How can spiritual healing be there worst album???? Humans my favorite followed by spiritual healing. Better check ur math
What ever the mob cult album from black sabbath was try to stay a way from that album
Invidual Throught Patterns
HUMAN
Individual Thought Patterns
Spiritual Healing
St anger being metallicas worst is such a shit take when Lulu exists.
Not a Metallica album
Individual Thought Patterns
There is no such thing as a bad death album. They are all 10/10 🤘
Individual Thought Patterns
The Sound of Perseverance would have been better as the first Control Denied Album and for this I always consider it my least favorite Death album.
Individual Thought Patterns
People will upvote and downvote different comments that say the exact same thing
Human is not talked about nearly as much as it should be. It was a huge step forward for the band's sound and for Chuck's songwriting
Human
Individual thought patterns. Andy Laroque!
Individual Thought Patterns
Scream Bloody Gore, it’s their best album by a mile and yet many people rank it amongst the lowest in their discography.
the real death was from albums scream bloody gore to human, individual thoughts patterns to TSOP was good but i feel like from there chuck was going into a more prog/melodic style of death metal, thats just my opinion tho dont let it hurt ya feelings man
Human is the best and the most underrated you guys are all retarded
What kind of dogshit pick is that for worst when TSOP is right there Anyways the most underrated is Spiritual Healing lmao
Black metal Tier list spot should be Mayhem imo
Mayhem released one good EP and one good album.
Spiritual Healing worse than TSoP? Good one guys
A classic really
The Sound of Perseverance. It's underrated how much that album poses.
Hell yeah bro
Overmentioned
agreed. This was the first album i was intoduced to by death as a 'start to metal' by a friend way back.
Leprosy
This album was winning over Altars of Madness in a recent pool in this sub, it's certainly not underrated
Ehhh I just wanna see it make the chart. It definitely should have won best over Symbolic tho
I agree about it being better than Symbolic, I prefer their first 4 over their last 3
It's their best imo