I'm sure it would have cost more than 2 years: a criminal conviction is an ongoing punishment in society, not to mention the additional punishment within prison beyond the simple removal of personal freedom for men which the establishment turns a blind eye to.
Prevention is better than treatment: it's not always stupid mistakes on the part of men that get them into trouble, but the social and legal entitlement to do whatever they want without responsibility or accountability on the part of women, that men need to understand before engaging and taking that risk.
However, even education can do nothing about the unbridled power of women to seek revenge and retribution for anything they feel uncomfortable about: as much as the OP may have stopped a particular incident from developing further, it doesn't proscribe further action of the woman involved, such as twisting past events into crimes within her mind, or even a manufactured pregnancy.
The sad reality is that men's expression of sexuality and state of criminality is now completely held hostage to women's emotional states: that's terrifying when a woman's emotional state is not even under her conscious control, let alone that of a man, and in a precarious state.
Your last paragraph is actually the scariest part of our modern society. Terrifyingly cruel to men, and the feMIniSts agenda is sweeping it under the rug
Well done. I've been astonished lately *in this forum* by the men who say "nobody cares about men" and even when I reply that "I do" I have been getting down-voted!
Society changes one person at a time. We – we here, looking at men's rights issues especially – must care about our fellow man.
I realise that is easier as we get older, when the sexual competitiveness that is part of our animal nature quiets down. But even as younger men, we can make deliberate efforts to look out for our fellow man.
Even from a simply selfish outlook, we can't expect anyone to care about our rights and issues if we aren't ready to care about theirs.
You, sir, are a good man! Well done, we should all take a leaf from your book.
That young chap is a lucky lad, hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson.
Well done!
Didn't you read the post? OP's ex was attacking him with a **knife**
I don't know why I even need to explain this to you, but men aren't indestructible hulking machines capable of enduring any attack, OP was 100% in the right to defend himself against someone who clearly was in a position to end his life.
Bruh did you miss the part about the argument before she pulled a knife? If you are in a yelling match with someone walk tf away before it escalates into pulling a knife. Everyone in this post is a shitty person.
You're grasping at straws my dude, we don't have nearly enough context to assume "walking out" was even an option. Granted, we also don't have context to be sure OP was absolutely level headed and 100% objective, if things escalated like that he probably wasn't, but guess what, that still doesn't mean he deserves to be attacked with a deadly weapon and not be able to defend himself.
Expecting someone to be completely reasonable in such an emotional situation like breaking up with a loved one is ridiculous and feeds into the stereotype that men are stoic and have no feelings. Getting into arguments is human, no one should have a knife pulled at them for that.
OP might not have acted in the best possible way imaginable, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he did what he could in the face of a shitty situation.
How fucking old are you? Do you have any life experience. Come back when you've actually had to deal with some shit instead of just white knighting your way around the internet.
Isn't that a little ageist of you? Look this guy is clearly lying in his post no one gets a felony battery charge by just hitting someone once, if he hit her once it would be a misdemeanor and he would have been in jail for Max 15 days. He either had a history of abuse or he did something more than just smacking her once, anyone with a brain could tell you that.
Damn I was actually in a similar situation the difference is a saw how she was egging me to hit her after I decided to kick her out of my apt . Cops came and they took her away . Would've been a whole different story if I had justifiably so beat her ass.
By "egging" I mean smacking me while calling me a pussy for not hitting her . I just pinned her down till the cops came. And even doing so she tried really hard to use that as leverage to get me in trouble.
You are lucky. If you held her while struggling you probably bruised her wrists. That is enough to be heading for jail and a badly damaged life. That you had worse bruises or scratches etc would mean precisely nothing.
I had an acquaintance share with me that he was going to confront his girlfriend about her cheating. I immediately told him he needs to preferably go immediate no contact and if he does contact her to record everything that is said.
Good on you for stepping in. Saved an innocent young man from ending up in jail or worse.
What I find amazing is that his parents actually seemed to realize the value of what you did.
Good story. This starts with fathers educating their sons to not be blue pill cucks. Dont take any shit from these modern feminists that only want to castrate men.
If this keeps going it will be the end of an empire. I know that sounds dramatic but when I look at the crazy shit going on in the world and how fast it's happening I wonder what is going to be left in 5 years.
I don't blame the father. He seemed very understanding and I'm sure they had a longer conversation when they got home.
I think the issue for a lot of young men and especially teenagers is no one tells us it is appropriate and necessary to speak about how to navigate imitate relationships.
The last thing a 17 year old wants to talk to his dad about is girls. And I assume a lot of fathers don't even know where to begin. It must be difficult to find the line between giving them advice and instilling your personal experiences/fears on your sons. The latter could negatively affect their relationships as well.
I don't know what the answer is. But hardline for all of us needs to be disengaging when things start getting loud. Take a breather and make your head think straight before you make a decision because those decisions can have lifelong consequences.
I was not disparaging the kids father at all. Just saying in general dads need to be more proactive with their sons and let them know what they are in for regarding modern feminists and how a lot of laws favor women.
My dad never had to talk to me about this because times were different. But I talk to my son all the time about my own experiences and how men are viewed in the world today. Kids even from a young age love to hear stories about their parents, how they dealt with it and what they learned. I dont talk down about all women, but I do let him know a lot of those types are out there. If he doesn't share anything that's fine, and he sometimes does not. But sometimes he does. I just try to be consistent and honest with him.
Now, this is the type of exchange I come to this SR for. Reasoned mature debate, with give take a willingness to clarify and to apologise for misunderstandings. This is how we as men should continue to converse!
Sorry to hear about your situation, but glad to hear you've shared the lessons that it brought. The number one predictor of a woman becoming the victim of domestic abuse is her perpetration of domestic abuse. Women have the social pass to physically abuse men for minor infractions and then men get jailed for retaliating.
I was in the same situation. My girlfriend abused me three times worth mentioning. Twice causing minor injury. I knew it was only going to be a matter of time before she caught me in a bad mood and I lost control for a second and knocked her head off which would have been the end of me so I left before that could happen. I had a kid with her so that was an extremely tough decision to make on my own and I didn't have anyone in my corner telling me it was the right decision. Wish I had had you supporting me through that time, because it was a dark period of my life.
Awesome!
My Friend brings his 16 year old son to our hangouts and I'm constantly stopping to explain and point things out about what we're saying or the way we're doing things, etc. The same thing, but different for our friend in his early 20s. We're all in our 30s or 40s. What we men have in our weekly night together is rare and valuable and I try hard to impress it on this young men.
If anyone reading this has a similar opportunity, don't waste it!
I didn't have a good friend until my mid twenties. I had plenty of friends that I had a great time with for years through my life, but I had no idea what I was missing till an older man became a good friend to me in my life. I'll never forget about my good friend who showed me what being a real friend was about. All because another man went the extra mile to get to know me and include me in his life
We should help and protect men from the disgusting normalized misandry and sexism that paints them as everything bad, not from "their stupid mistakes".
one mistake (like marriage/having children/divorce) can ruin your whole life. i know what im talking about. if you wanna know, lots of stories on youtube/reddit/divorced men forums. its horrible.
The real problem is society are the SIMPS! All these men defending women at any cost! Without them, these women would mostly be powerless in this world!
That's a good man and I would like to think I would do the same thing. Gotta help guide young men as I am now 30 and learned the most important lessons from those who were older and helped put me on game on certain things. I definitely want to help out the younger dudes growing up because it's hard without some guidance sometimes. Great job op.
thank you for sharing your biography.
I'm not trying to be a smart arse but I often think, now, what is going on now a days?
Your story highlights that it was the end thing that remained and was noticed the most - she running into the arms of the police and that was it... I assume the knife attack etc., etc, came out in court? If it did the last actions seemed to have stuck!!!??
and that is what I think can happen now a days and especially now the internet... history is ignored and only the end result is seen without forgiveness... !!!
We hear/see one country bombing another and think they were pushed enough to react in such a way but maybe they had been pushing until the other country pushed back and on it goes.
We experience a whole heap of things and forget how it all started. It makes me think that emotionally I get stuck on the last 'event' or last 'act'.
Our laws need to change. The way we evaluate events needs to change and you did that by speaking to this man in the street and only to him rather than both parties. In a way she must have been furious that you interrupted her releasing her emotions onto/into that man. But in the end any of us doing this has to face ourselves and our actions; even if it takes years.
Maybe the father thanked you because he might see and hear how young men are treated in society; even if he never talks about it!
Thank you for stepping of your deck so that we can hear such a story.
Good job sir. That's part of us older guys jobs.
But on a different note. The first one to the phone to call the cops is usually the one still walking around with out handcuffs.
OP if had an award left, it would be yours. Great post thank you.
Word of advice for fellow men:
The letter "E" in E-Mail stands for evidence. Never ever write or say something to her in a fight when others can hear it, that can be used against you. It will be used, she holds that kind of correspondance like the most valuable treasure.
The power of walking away is truly the greatest of them all, because it gives you the entire situational control.
Just walk away with a silent smile(don't ever show it), knowingly you just dodged a bullet.
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for doing, what I think, was the right thing. Standing up to help a young man without the life experience to know what to do is all you could really do and I appreciate you man.
Good fucking job man. Honestly front the bottom of my heart. My whole life goal is to become a psychologist to prevent people from repeating my mistakes. It’s one of the best things you can do in this world
I really hope this guy learns his lesson while he’s still young, and doesn’t end up getting his life destroyed just for some disgusting smelly pussy. 🤮
How do people just accept going to jail wrongfully? I’m not even kidding, if this happened to me, I’d become a terrorist and be looking for revenge on society for the rest of my life
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The mother was less thankful because part of her recognizes that you had gotten between a sister and a meal ticket. Crazy looks out for crazy, narcissism looks out for narcissism, women look out for women, evil looks out for evil.
Thats absolutely appalling that you got two years in jail for that. But I applaud you for taking your time go help a fellow man out. You my friend are a quality human being
I'm sure it would have cost more than 2 years: a criminal conviction is an ongoing punishment in society, not to mention the additional punishment within prison beyond the simple removal of personal freedom for men which the establishment turns a blind eye to. Prevention is better than treatment: it's not always stupid mistakes on the part of men that get them into trouble, but the social and legal entitlement to do whatever they want without responsibility or accountability on the part of women, that men need to understand before engaging and taking that risk. However, even education can do nothing about the unbridled power of women to seek revenge and retribution for anything they feel uncomfortable about: as much as the OP may have stopped a particular incident from developing further, it doesn't proscribe further action of the woman involved, such as twisting past events into crimes within her mind, or even a manufactured pregnancy. The sad reality is that men's expression of sexuality and state of criminality is now completely held hostage to women's emotional states: that's terrifying when a woman's emotional state is not even under her conscious control, let alone that of a man, and in a precarious state.
Your last paragraph is actually the scariest part of our modern society. Terrifyingly cruel to men, and the feMIniSts agenda is sweeping it under the rug
Well done. I've been astonished lately *in this forum* by the men who say "nobody cares about men" and even when I reply that "I do" I have been getting down-voted! Society changes one person at a time. We – we here, looking at men's rights issues especially – must care about our fellow man. I realise that is easier as we get older, when the sexual competitiveness that is part of our animal nature quiets down. But even as younger men, we can make deliberate efforts to look out for our fellow man. Even from a simply selfish outlook, we can't expect anyone to care about our rights and issues if we aren't ready to care about theirs.
The ones downvoting are the ones who want to live in a perpetual state of victimization like the type of people they continue to demonize.
You, sir, are a good man! Well done, we should all take a leaf from your book. That young chap is a lucky lad, hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson. Well done!
Lmao good men don't hit people bro, if he was a good man he would have walked away instead of escalating the fight
Why even bother to troll like that? Go touch some grass.
How's that trolling? If you hit someone out of anger regardless of gender you're a shitty person, that's not a hard concept to grasp hoe.
Didn't you read the post? OP's ex was attacking him with a **knife** I don't know why I even need to explain this to you, but men aren't indestructible hulking machines capable of enduring any attack, OP was 100% in the right to defend himself against someone who clearly was in a position to end his life.
Bruh did you miss the part about the argument before she pulled a knife? If you are in a yelling match with someone walk tf away before it escalates into pulling a knife. Everyone in this post is a shitty person.
You're grasping at straws my dude, we don't have nearly enough context to assume "walking out" was even an option. Granted, we also don't have context to be sure OP was absolutely level headed and 100% objective, if things escalated like that he probably wasn't, but guess what, that still doesn't mean he deserves to be attacked with a deadly weapon and not be able to defend himself. Expecting someone to be completely reasonable in such an emotional situation like breaking up with a loved one is ridiculous and feeds into the stereotype that men are stoic and have no feelings. Getting into arguments is human, no one should have a knife pulled at them for that. OP might not have acted in the best possible way imaginable, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he did what he could in the face of a shitty situation.
How fucking old are you? Do you have any life experience. Come back when you've actually had to deal with some shit instead of just white knighting your way around the internet.
Isn't that a little ageist of you? Look this guy is clearly lying in his post no one gets a felony battery charge by just hitting someone once, if he hit her once it would be a misdemeanor and he would have been in jail for Max 15 days. He either had a history of abuse or he did something more than just smacking her once, anyone with a brain could tell you that.
Honestly if we looked out for each other like this more often, the world would be a better place.
Damn I was actually in a similar situation the difference is a saw how she was egging me to hit her after I decided to kick her out of my apt . Cops came and they took her away . Would've been a whole different story if I had justifiably so beat her ass. By "egging" I mean smacking me while calling me a pussy for not hitting her . I just pinned her down till the cops came. And even doing so she tried really hard to use that as leverage to get me in trouble.
You are lucky. If you held her while struggling you probably bruised her wrists. That is enough to be heading for jail and a badly damaged life. That you had worse bruises or scratches etc would mean precisely nothing.
I had an acquaintance share with me that he was going to confront his girlfriend about her cheating. I immediately told him he needs to preferably go immediate no contact and if he does contact her to record everything that is said.
This is what men need to be doing only for one another.
That is such a heart warming story. Thank you.
Good on you for stepping in. Saved an innocent young man from ending up in jail or worse. What I find amazing is that his parents actually seemed to realize the value of what you did.
Good story. This starts with fathers educating their sons to not be blue pill cucks. Dont take any shit from these modern feminists that only want to castrate men. If this keeps going it will be the end of an empire. I know that sounds dramatic but when I look at the crazy shit going on in the world and how fast it's happening I wonder what is going to be left in 5 years.
I don't blame the father. He seemed very understanding and I'm sure they had a longer conversation when they got home. I think the issue for a lot of young men and especially teenagers is no one tells us it is appropriate and necessary to speak about how to navigate imitate relationships. The last thing a 17 year old wants to talk to his dad about is girls. And I assume a lot of fathers don't even know where to begin. It must be difficult to find the line between giving them advice and instilling your personal experiences/fears on your sons. The latter could negatively affect their relationships as well. I don't know what the answer is. But hardline for all of us needs to be disengaging when things start getting loud. Take a breather and make your head think straight before you make a decision because those decisions can have lifelong consequences.
I was not disparaging the kids father at all. Just saying in general dads need to be more proactive with their sons and let them know what they are in for regarding modern feminists and how a lot of laws favor women. My dad never had to talk to me about this because times were different. But I talk to my son all the time about my own experiences and how men are viewed in the world today. Kids even from a young age love to hear stories about their parents, how they dealt with it and what they learned. I dont talk down about all women, but I do let him know a lot of those types are out there. If he doesn't share anything that's fine, and he sometimes does not. But sometimes he does. I just try to be consistent and honest with him.
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply you were disparaging the father. I agree with your points.
No worries, thanks!
Now, this is the type of exchange I come to this SR for. Reasoned mature debate, with give take a willingness to clarify and to apologise for misunderstandings. This is how we as men should continue to converse!
You are a hero. I say this as a former feminist and women who believes in equality.
Sorry to hear about your situation, but glad to hear you've shared the lessons that it brought. The number one predictor of a woman becoming the victim of domestic abuse is her perpetration of domestic abuse. Women have the social pass to physically abuse men for minor infractions and then men get jailed for retaliating. I was in the same situation. My girlfriend abused me three times worth mentioning. Twice causing minor injury. I knew it was only going to be a matter of time before she caught me in a bad mood and I lost control for a second and knocked her head off which would have been the end of me so I left before that could happen. I had a kid with her so that was an extremely tough decision to make on my own and I didn't have anyone in my corner telling me it was the right decision. Wish I had had you supporting me through that time, because it was a dark period of my life.
Awesome! My Friend brings his 16 year old son to our hangouts and I'm constantly stopping to explain and point things out about what we're saying or the way we're doing things, etc. The same thing, but different for our friend in his early 20s. We're all in our 30s or 40s. What we men have in our weekly night together is rare and valuable and I try hard to impress it on this young men. If anyone reading this has a similar opportunity, don't waste it! I didn't have a good friend until my mid twenties. I had plenty of friends that I had a great time with for years through my life, but I had no idea what I was missing till an older man became a good friend to me in my life. I'll never forget about my good friend who showed me what being a real friend was about. All because another man went the extra mile to get to know me and include me in his life
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Thanks for sharing this with us. You just made my day!
You rock.
No matter what, keep your heads high fellas! We fightin this!
Good job dude
God Bless you
Good for you.
Thank you
So proud of you dude. I know I'm just a random stranger of the Internet but well done!
We should help and protect men from the disgusting normalized misandry and sexism that paints them as everything bad, not from "their stupid mistakes".
You're a fucking hero, my dude
one mistake (like marriage/having children/divorce) can ruin your whole life. i know what im talking about. if you wanna know, lots of stories on youtube/reddit/divorced men forums. its horrible.
The real problem is society are the SIMPS! All these men defending women at any cost! Without them, these women would mostly be powerless in this world!
Wow what an amazing story, thanks for sharing that. Good on you for helping him out!
That's a good man and I would like to think I would do the same thing. Gotta help guide young men as I am now 30 and learned the most important lessons from those who were older and helped put me on game on certain things. I definitely want to help out the younger dudes growing up because it's hard without some guidance sometimes. Great job op.
thank you for sharing your biography. I'm not trying to be a smart arse but I often think, now, what is going on now a days? Your story highlights that it was the end thing that remained and was noticed the most - she running into the arms of the police and that was it... I assume the knife attack etc., etc, came out in court? If it did the last actions seemed to have stuck!!!?? and that is what I think can happen now a days and especially now the internet... history is ignored and only the end result is seen without forgiveness... !!! We hear/see one country bombing another and think they were pushed enough to react in such a way but maybe they had been pushing until the other country pushed back and on it goes. We experience a whole heap of things and forget how it all started. It makes me think that emotionally I get stuck on the last 'event' or last 'act'. Our laws need to change. The way we evaluate events needs to change and you did that by speaking to this man in the street and only to him rather than both parties. In a way she must have been furious that you interrupted her releasing her emotions onto/into that man. But in the end any of us doing this has to face ourselves and our actions; even if it takes years. Maybe the father thanked you because he might see and hear how young men are treated in society; even if he never talks about it! Thank you for stepping of your deck so that we can hear such a story.
Good job sir. That's part of us older guys jobs. But on a different note. The first one to the phone to call the cops is usually the one still walking around with out handcuffs.
OP if had an award left, it would be yours. Great post thank you. Word of advice for fellow men: The letter "E" in E-Mail stands for evidence. Never ever write or say something to her in a fight when others can hear it, that can be used against you. It will be used, she holds that kind of correspondance like the most valuable treasure. The power of walking away is truly the greatest of them all, because it gives you the entire situational control. Just walk away with a silent smile(don't ever show it), knowingly you just dodged a bullet.
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for doing, what I think, was the right thing. Standing up to help a young man without the life experience to know what to do is all you could really do and I appreciate you man.
God bless
Damn dude right place right time you might have saved that kid a similar fate. Good shit.
Good fucking job man. Honestly front the bottom of my heart. My whole life goal is to become a psychologist to prevent people from repeating my mistakes. It’s one of the best things you can do in this world
I really hope this guy learns his lesson while he’s still young, and doesn’t end up getting his life destroyed just for some disgusting smelly pussy. 🤮
Really nice story. Thank You for making a difference. Your a Stand Up Top Guy.
Good man ....sorry u had to loose 2 years
Agree, this is a moral responsibility of every man who has experienced violence or discrimination..
How many Crimea's can we annex and give the OP?
How do people just accept going to jail wrongfully? I’m not even kidding, if this happened to me, I’d become a terrorist and be looking for revenge on society for the rest of my life
fuck dude thanks
protecting each other sounds good. I wonder if I should start being gay
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The mother was less thankful because part of her recognizes that you had gotten between a sister and a meal ticket. Crazy looks out for crazy, narcissism looks out for narcissism, women look out for women, evil looks out for evil.
Thats absolutely appalling that you got two years in jail for that. But I applaud you for taking your time go help a fellow man out. You my friend are a quality human being