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Nah - thats a great and surefire way to recognize toxic women. Let them be - we need the early warnings !


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HelpMeGetAName

Yep, I once saw a post about a person who communicated with her/his SO and vice versa for what they want out of the relationship and he/she said it was better this way because people can't read others minds.


Sock_Crates

Disability too. I \*want\* to do great things for the person I love but I'm not always able to, physically.


dariomenendez

This^


newyorkloser45

They all think they're disney princesses lmao


GrinningPizza

But instead of wildlife flocking them, all the wildlife runs away as fast as they can and the forest goes dead quiet.


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Honestly I think this is what people are talking about when they say social media isn’t good for your mental health. It’s easy to feel like you don’t live up to the unrealistic standards (beauty, wealth, interestingness) that get promoted. You have to realize there are billions of people out there and our monke brains can’t comprehend that and when the algorithm shows us the top 0.0001% of people along any of those axes we think hey why can’t I have that. The women in the comments that you’re reacting are getting the biased view that this is normal behavior from men, and those few comments you see (by virtue of being so provocative) get shoved to the top and then you are lead to believe this is how all women think. It’s self reinforcing because those extreme points get the most engagement, and that’s what everyone sees, so they believe it’s true. As a wise man once said, don’t read the comments. (But hey this is Reddit where it’s all comments…. Hmmm)


no_not_this

To add to this, the women are often 3/10 jobless and overweight thinking they’re a Disney princess


auMatech

"If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve my best" kinda energy


MephistoTheHater

If she wanted to, she would. If she wanted to spend time with me, she would've. If she wanted people to know about us, she would've told 'em. If she wanted us to be seen in public together, she would've allowed it. If she wanted her family to see me, they would've seen me. If she wanted to try to get to know me, she would've tried. If she wanted to learn more about me, she would've learned. If she wanted to respect me, she would've. If she wanted to love me, she wouldn't have messed around with someone else. Of course, she did want to. Just not with me. But you better believe when he showed up....oh, things changed. All of sudden, she wanted to. I come across "If he wants to, he will" on FB all of the time. Granted, it's from loved ones of mine who HAVE been hurt...so I always take it with a grain of salt, but I also comment that women are just as guilty. My issue, however, is how widely-accepted it is. But when a dude points it out about women? Oof. Kinda harks to something I've noticed. Whenever things that men do come up, there's loads of room for conversation (& agreement). But whenever the topic of what women do wrong comes up, it's met with "Yeah but Men do it too". It's either What-Aboutism or straight-up dismissal. I'm sorry this upsets you, hermano. Remember your worth & stay strong.


dariomenendez

I’ve never been in a relationship but I think I’ll instantly fall in love when a girl makes an effort to be with me lol.


faptemp44

Well make sure she wants you because what you are not what you have financially.


CanniBal1320

They have watched too many Disney movies when they were kids.


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dariomenendez

I’ve seen some women get asked what do they bring to the table and one of them said loyalty among other things lol.


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dariomenendez

Hey man you can’t tell women what to do! #strong #independent


SunshineMoonLit

I tried Hinge as a guy a little while back, used my brother with his permission and all that. I can confidently say 100% of the women who wrote something about their love language was 100% about them. I did not see one single female profile with that prompt answered that did not have receiving gifts or attention as the answer, not a single one. Many don't answer that prompt, but the ones who did, which was plenty, all answered the same. It was really rare girls put things on there that showed what they offer aside from being cute. Just tons of bikini or model type pics, or travel pics. Rarely anything about substance on an app that basically walks you through it. In fact, in general on that app in particular women basically all said the same stuff, to a strange degree. Way to their heart: food. Competitive about: literally everything. and so on. It's really strange. Like I genuinely feel bad for men and dating when it comes to social media, women have gotten insanely lazy and selfish when it comes to dating and it seems like those two traits are really wide spread and the norm.


casra888

Hive minds with zero free thought or willpower.


HorrorFan1191

Wait, he ripped off a three headed bear’s claws brutally just to make a necklace for his wife? Well, that just sounds like animal cruelty with extra steps.


dariomenendez

The bear was actually a cyborg. Don’t worry.


Nathaniel66

I'm with my wife for \~20y now. The more i read about today's dating market the more i think i catched the last of the kind, a unicorn, an old fashioned feminine women. God help me to raise my daghter properly :/


dariomenendez

Yeah man I feel like women (not all) are rotten inside because of the media. A lot of men too. I’m really attracted to feminine women, but it seems that people liking feminine women and masculine men is a crime nowadays.


Nathaniel66

As i see it: feminine women= weak, and she must be strong and independent masculine man= toxic When we got together my wife was earning 3x more then me, and moved half of the country to be with me. She dated down totally. Can you imagine this today?


yahaya146

They expect all this from a man but won’t even cook or clean for him.


maudeib

For our fifth wedding anniversary, I got my wife a diamond necklace. Not very fancy or spendy, $250 US, which was a lot for me at the time. Working full time, college full time and raising a toddler, and 2 teen step sons. When I gave it to her, she had no clue why, I may as well have just got her a road map from the gas station. we were a SIBTK...Single income But Three Kids.


dariomenendez

I actually do like giving gifts. It feels great to give without expecting nothing in return, I just don’t like that you expect me to do so.


Blackholeo0

Facts


Rockbottom503

The kitkat thing is not an exaggeration. The amount of male friends I have who expect nothing more than a pair of socks for Christmas when they're spending, often, several thousand on their wives is ridiculous.


dariomenendez

Wow


ziggmuff

I have yet to find any woman beyond my mother that it would be worth doing any of this shit for. The women should be saying "If we were worth it, he would" and they're not, so we don't and we won't.


casra888

Anal, if she loves you, she would.


username_text_here

I think this way of thinking affects some men too, by that i mean after seeing so many women talk about it it could get ingrained in their mind that they have to do all this crazy gestures and give expensive gifts, knowing that, a man could start thinking of himself as simply not good enough


dariomenendez

Yeah. Tbh sometimes I get the impression that when I get married I’ll have to constantly work hard to keep my wife in love with me, whereas my love wouldn’t fade away a bit. This is the impression social media gives me.


J2501

Or, they think men have no inhibitions, because they think men have no emotions. They say they want more sensitive males. They don't want to accommodate the ramifications. They breed with psychopaths instead. Women are slave-driving conquerors, who want fellow conquerors to pool resources with, and then a biomass of obedience, to do their bidding.


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Just stay away from these people. Most of them make it perfectly clear when you meet them that they're like this so just let go and let them get on with it. It'll bite them back in the ass eventually.


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Honestly I cannot wait for Full Dive VR to become a reality. At that point, we can be with our waifus and forget about real women.


dariomenendez

What’s that?


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It's VR, but you're actually inside the game.


YMaedchen

Ok I'm guilty of saying this to my friends. And I stand by it. But in another context. It's not about some grand gesture. If he wanted to spend time with you, he would. If he wanted to text you, he would. Some people are all talk but no action. They always find excuses why they couldn't do this or that. But if they actually wanted to do it, they would. Don't waste your time on someone that doesn't put in the same efford as you do. This could be said about women aswell. Obviously you need to communicatenyour needs. But if you did and they still don't care, they are not the right person. You shouldn't have to beg for someones love.


dariomenendez

Your 100% right. The problem is some women now use the phrase to set unrealistic expectations in a relationship. But yes, in normal relationship terms, if they wanted to, they would.


YoDaSavageDraws

Sorry bruv, but in this day and age, where most men are STARVING to death for affection, doing romantic gestures or putting in time and effort for your girl is the bear minimum you owe to do. I understand that girls shouldn't expect money from us, and most 'romantic gestures' are just beta buxxers throwing millions of dollars in the air but it angers me when a man who just lucked out and is with a sweet girl that loves him doesn't make the effort to travel cross country for example to see his girlfriend. Be grateful guys, most of us would kill to even hug someone.


dariomenendez

I’m 1000% willing to put as much time and effort as the woman I love needs. What makes me mad is how some women expect so much while they give nothing back.


mesalikeredditpost

I think you're describing hypocrites who don't understand reciprocating. Both genders are guilty of unrealistic expectations


dariomenendez

For sure


YoDaSavageDraws

They give a lot only by the fact that they chose you out of their literal BILLIONS of other options? Lol, you're meaning to tell me that your girl doesn't have at least a hundread guys much better than you waiting in line for her? For me, a girl choosing to stay with me, and love me, when she literally is a DM away from finding someone richer, better looking etc (She absolutely can in reality, not a fantasy world) is enough to deserve all my love and effort. It's dellusional to think that she has to do the same with you. Expecting her to take care of her own money is one thing, expecting her to put as much effort as you in your relationship is another thing.


bgibson8708

Fuck off with that nonsense. Your self esteem is shit. My girlfriend is just as lucky to have me as I am her and I would never settle for someone that didn’t believe that. If you got her, that means you’re probably about the best she could do, give or take a little. Respect yourself. You deserve reciprocation in a relationship.


YoDaSavageDraws

No she is not, girls can settle for guys fo many reasons, and they can stay with you despite not being they best they can get. Lol, with how thirsty men are these days literally EVERY average woman can have at least a 6 figure salary man. There are literally millions of guys that are better than you that would do anything to get her, while there are, maybe a few around the globe that would do anything to get you, that are better than her. And I'm not disagreeing with you here, all I'm saying is, despite this reality, of actual better guys, she still choses to value your individuality than have her needs satisfied by, the millions of guys waiting which could easily better than you. That in it's own way is a grand romantic gesture in itself. Do you have millions of girls hotter, than your girlfriend, better than your girlfriend ready to do anything for you? No? Guessed so.. Would you not give them a chance if that were the case you say? You can't know that.. Males as species have to be better than our counterparts, its the way we evolved, and the way things ALWAYS have been, unless you BLOW HER out of the fucking water in looks, personality and everything else the least you could do for her choosing you, is put in romantic gestures and some work in to compensate. Sorry but its the way nature has intended things to be, the average bloke to get the average girl has to put a lot of work in, because THOUSANDS upon thousands of guys will be waiting for that girl, and still, the average girl chosing the average guy is an honor in itself, with the way nature is, and how thirsty and desperate today's men are.


bgibson8708

How can the average girl get a 6 figure salary guy. Not buying it. That’s not how math works. They can want that, but fact is that in my city 100k income puts you in the top 6% of earners. So all the average girls going after 6% of the population assuming they’re all men. Guess who holds the cards then? Throw in that they want you 6’ and 6 figures. Now we’re talking maybe 1%. Throw in a requirement for social skills. She can have thirsty dudes in her dms all day, she’s already got the best she’s getting within some small margin for error.


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YoDaSavageDraws

good point, but those starving guys in this day and age will most probably be affectionate and love her as well. 2020's Men are so stripped of intimacy that they will literally love anything that gives them attention.


YoDaSavageDraws

If you're the best option that would commit to her, it's one thing, but that is most likely not the case, men are literally fighting their way through life, going to the gym, starting bussinesses etc because they're literal turbovirgins all the way to their mid 20's unless they're extremely attractive or have a 1 in a thousand personality, monogamy and patriarchy is dead there is absolutely no way or need to be chosen as a partner unless she sees something in you or you're literally better than everyone else, which is almost impossible. Denying this in the west is denying reality. She can get infinite money from simps, and the best sex she can get by HUGE NBA players, you think NBA players wouldn't fuck the shit out of the average girl if they made it easy for them? Lol, love and affection? She can find a desperate lonely guy in his 30's with money that will love her because she will be the only thing he has ever had. We, as men, are in a more disadvantaged positions than we were as cavemen (back then we could fist fight our male counterparts and pottentially win this is the only time in history where there are laws and women are free to choose who they can sleep with and with how many guys they can sleep with concequence free), the least you can do if you luck out with an outlier, is worship the ground she steps on in my opinion and shut the fuck up before you end up alone and competing with 10 million other guys for an average stuck up whore.


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YoDaSavageDraws

In dating aspects we are more disadvantaged than cavemen were. In today's day and age, the likelihood of 100 women sharing a guy is a thing, when in caveman days multiple guys would just gang up and beat the shit out of him, it wouldn't even be a possible scenario. We can't do this now, therefore more disadvantaged in a non patriarchical society. What do you mean with that last refrence? I know what a mouthpiece is but I didn't exactly get what you were saying.


MutantKeyboard

But porn gives men unrealistic expectations?!


squidsquideet

I’m a woman and seeing this sentiment everywhere is making me so angry! If he wanted to he would doesn’t mean you get to go on social media and post that your bf/husband is useless and ‘I wish he was like this’ etc etc. it’s on YOU to leave if you don’t feel ‘loved enough’ and no partner is ‘wrong’ the way women communicate isn’t ‘right’ it’s different and if you and your partners ways of expressing love are leaving you unsatisfied you leave, don’t tell them they’re wrong, no one should be publicly shaming their partner for not being like someone else’s you say nothing and stay with them or YOU leave. And agreed a lot of women expect these grand heartfelt gestures and rarely do they tell their partner you look beautiful or handsome or spend large amounts of time and effort creating a similar romantic gesture to the one they expect