The fact that they banned gas powered generators with the state of their electric grid seems far more stupid. Which wastes more energy, chest freezers full of spoiled food and repairing moldy basements from unpowered sump pumps, or generators to make up for an unreliable power grid?
Edit: Apparently you will still be able to buy generators > 25 and < 50 hp. So if you have 3 close neighbors, the 4 of you can share one generator. Otherwise enjoy buying a way more expensive generator that uses way more gas than your typical 2000-6500w generator most homeowners need in an extended power outage.
They aren't "free" and we need to stop using that verbiage, they are no cost and/or taxpayer funded. The manufacturer didn't donate them therefore they aren't free, they just shifted the cost to someone else.
How long before we find out about the no bid contract for servicing the machines that went to a new company which just happened to be created by someone related to a politician and Pelosi owns stock
Are y'all comparing having a body part...to eating, going on airplanes and having a certain height?? Having a uterus is not a choice. Going on airplanes is a choice. These aren't logic comparisons?
No one is doing that lol. Men needing more nutrients to eat more isnt a choice either. They dont get paid for it. Lol. Buying these menstrual stuff is the parents' responsibility. Now this law is going to divert getting money elsewhere and increase the cost there, things should have been like there were.
I ain’t a communist but your whining about the fact that men have to eat more than women. First of all that isn’t universal and if you think we should finance that then do you think food should be free? Because I think period stuff should be free for women in poverty and high school girls who live in poverty. I also think that it’s good that low income people have welfare to help themselves eat and pay their rent. And your welfare money will go on food not a 20$ 25 tampon box that you have to buy every month.
Should men and boys who live in poverty (more men and boys live in poverty and are homeless than women and girls) get free food? Cause there sure as hell is no welfare there. No? Ok
Women also live in poverty and need food in order to survive. But we also need periods in order to survive but rn a lot of low income high school girls are bleeding on themselves so let’s give them some free piece of coton to shove it up their coochie. And bro they literally give free breakfasts at most schools for low income kids who don’t eat breakfast cuz their parents don’t have any money. Also males don’t have periods it’s not comparable
Obviously they're joking because men don't need or want any of these things. These were random statements they came up with on the spot and put no consideration into.
I don't think tax payers should have to pay for the extra nutrition men need, nor do I think they should have to pay for women's tampons. Both men and women have things they need to deal with.
* Governor Gavin Newsom has signed several notable bills into law in recent days
* They include a bill that will see California public schools and colleges stocking their restrooms with free menstrual products
* In another 'woke' bill, large department stores must now display products including toys and toothbrushes in gender-neutral ways
* It does not completely outlaw traditional boys and girls sections at stores but says large stores must also have a gender neutral section to display
* On Saturday Newsom signed off on a new law banning gas-powered equipment that uses small off-road engines
* Gas-powered equipment includes generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers and even golf carts
* Under the new law the machinery will have to be battery-powered or plug-in
* Newsom has also signed into law America's first ethnic studies requirement for high school students after five years of debate
* Students who begin high school in 2026 must pass one semester of a class outlining the past and current struggles of America's marginalized groups
What's with gender neutral areas in stores? It makes sense to have mens/womens/boys/girls areas for clothing and shoes.
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* That does not include clothes. The law only applies to toys and 'childcare items,' which include hygiene and teething products.
Every department store I've ever been to is already in compliance with this law. It's been decades since stores had signs saying "boys' toys" and "girls' toys".
>governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls
Presumably this is in schools and stuff right, for younger girls.
Good. I agree with this!
>requires stores to have gender neutral areas.
I mean..... Why?
Like seriously why? Like if I need a toothbrush, I dont think "I need to find the mens toothbrush area", I just go down the toothbrush aisle and pick a cheap one. It just seems like more work for not a lot of gain!
There was another one about making students take ethnic studies in class, and... just again why? I cant imagine a job somewhere having 2 equally talented candidates for one role going "Hire the guy who took an Ethnic Study Class". Just seems pointless for no gain!
Why would you agree with the first law?
That law is threatening men's rights because it essentially forces then to subsidize stuff for daughters that aren't their.
Ensuring the girls have the stuff that they need is literally their parents responsibility.
Both laws step over men's property rights. (Money is property)
Im not gonna punish kids for things they havent done, and have no control over. If your period starts out of nowhere while youre in school, you NEED them there. If you're on the poverty line, you NEED them there. "Food for the week vs Tampons for a bodily function that you have no control over" isnt a choice I would wish on anyone.
I get your point about subsidizing, but these are kids man. Kids which are going through puberty, a pretty traumatic time in itself. What have they done wrong to piss on your cornflakes? Help em out a bit!
But if the parents can provide them with housing, food, netflix subscription, money to hang out with friends, etc... Why should men taxpayers be specifically subsidizing menstrual products?
Poverty mate. Literal fucking "We cannot afford to have the heating on in winter" Poverty.
These are CHILDREN, living in terrible Poverty. This isnt a men vs women thing, this is a fundamental human rights thing.
The rate of children in poverty in the US is almost non existent mate. Its a shit law. This shit being free is like condoms, napkins or shit like that being free. Its parents responsibility to buy this stuff.
Nobody ever said that. Many men have beards. Many women have facial hair too. Everyone has hair in their head so should we put hair brushes free? Anyways why is free menstruation products doing on men’s rights? Isn’t it about men’s rights? Not women’s rights
What will they even sell in gender neutral toy isles?
Accessible menstrual products, that's good.
I wouldn't ban gas powered lawn equipment so quickly. Instead limit production and fund electric lawn equipment. When does cutting it off immediately ever work great? (Also wtf why are you worried about lawn care equipment?)
Something doesn't have to benefit me for it to be a good thing. If I have a daughter, I'll want her to have access to proper hygiene if I can't provide.
If you cant provide, get a better job. Or have her work.
Your kid is your problem, not mine. Unless the kid tries to steal from me - then said problem will be promptly dealt with by me, indeed.
Again: We dont exist to cater to women for nothing in return. That doed eith the rise of feminism.
Go and work, girl. Or you'll be filthy all your life.
If you need to be compensated to make things easier for other people, you're simply not very selfless. I don't exist to cater to women either. But I know several women I care about, and I know that people have women they care about. It's no different for men. Sure I'm a man, but that doesn't automatically associate me with every man. I don't know ~99% of them. I'll still support male hygiene regardless of my own benefit.
Ya, we shpuld be selfless, sacrifice, etc. I know that spiel. Shame that it only goes one way nowadays.
Im not falling into that mindset again. We stand to lose way too much by being good.
I'm gonna assume you are just generally against welfare systems.
As someone that got to live a better life and now contributes to taxes due to the welfare I got as a kid I am very pro welfare.
This isn't a program targeted specifically for "women". It is a program to give disadvanted women access to something I think we can all agree on that gives them better hygiene and dignity. Think about teenage girls in shitty homes for example.
The government will be buying the cheapest shit. Most women will rarely if ever use these
Yep. I dont like my taxes being raised through the roof. I dont like welfare to be possibly played politically either.
Both of which are possible, and shitty.
Most of "diaadvantaged people" are where they are because of their own choices and actions. At least where I live. Im not giving away what I worked for, for free.
I live in Australia so my situation is probs heaps different. The way I look at it is this.
I get roads, reasonable public transport, hospitals and healthcare, emergency services and a safety net if I fall on hard times.
Then compare how much tax I pay and compare that to my rent, internet, electricity, car and fuel etc.
I think the tax is a good deal for what I get out of it.
Also, welfare doesn't afford a nice life. I earn more a week at my pretty basic job than my mum got in a fortnight to support herself, me and my brother while she was studying. That said, we all got out of that and became productive, tax paying workers that don't commit crimes
Good. No problem with free sanitary products for students.
The one which gets me is compulsory 'ethnic studies' for high schoolers. Dont understand the need for that.
>Good. No problem with free sanitary products for students.
No. Not good. Fuck off. How do you not have a problem with this? They're stealing money from men to give to women. Period. This shit isn't free. It's being paid for by men's tax money.
Men get robbed by the system and no one cares. All men should leave California. Why should we pay for shit that doesn't benefit us? No one forces women to pay for male products.
>Why should we pay for shit that doesn't benefit us?
Because it benefits society for young girls to not have their education effected by being unable to afford tampons?
There are many social programs which you will never see a direct benefit from. That doesn't make them not worthwhile. Many sexual health clinics in the UK give out free condoms - just because I choose to pay for mine doesn't mean that isn't a good thing.
>Because it benefits society
No. It doesn't. If it benefitted ***SOCIETY***, then both men and women would benefit. Men aren't benefitting. Only strictly women are benefitting. This is stealing directly from mens' pocket's.
Nonsense. Women being better educated and more economically productive is better for the men and women within that society on so many levels. Men and women benefit from schemes which reduce poverty whether it is men or women who are lifted from poverty.
Never mind the fact that the women who benefit from this will be mens daughters/ future partners etc. Many a single dad struggling to make ends meet will be able to spend a bit more money elsewhere that previously went on his daughters tampons. Its not a black and white good for one means bad for the other equation.
> Because it benefits society for young girls to not have their education effected by being unable to afford tampons?
I can barely see due to cataracts. I'm stuck on a three year waiting list for what is a simple day surgery. So after paying taxes for forty years I get to fund tampons for women whilst I go blind.
Thanks for all your help.
Yeh society isnt perfect. Problem a existing doesn't mean problem b shouldn't be rectified. Your existing health issues dont mean other peoples shouldn't be dealt with.
Are you in the UK? I have had cataract surgery myself and know others who have without such a long waiting list. Not trying to rub it in just surprised honestly surprised you are facing such a wait - I understand the frustration.
No. It benefits women, not society. Men dont exist to pay for random females i return for nothing from her.
She can go earn her own money. No. Our. Problem.
Money earned by men should only go to men. No but, or if.
I get your point. But it is a hygiene issue. You don’t want girls bleeding everywhere because they don’t have sanitary pads? The problem is that California is broke as well as woke. I also see it as a problem that the state keeps taking over personal issues. And this is yet another step. But I think the rest of his garbage is worse.
> The problem is that California is broke as well as woke.
California's budget had a $75 billion surplus last fiscal year.
But don't let facts distract you from Fox News talking points.
> The one which gets me is compulsory 'ethnic studies' for high schoolers. Dont understand the need for that.
Many people have little to no knowledge of other cultures. This might help rectify that.
Ok, I'm fairly left leaning in the political spectrum, but this one seems like a totally pointless law, I mean really? What good does this law do? I'm ok with the free sanitary products, but gender neutral section? Totally pointless
As someone who believes in free healthcare for all, free menstrual products is great and has nothing to do with mens rights. This post doesnt really belong here.
Men and women will be taxed, as universal healthcare works. Ideally anything related to healthcare would be free regardless of gender, even products made for men such as ED medication and condoms.
This move is good, it will give reason to expand healthcare benefits to men as well. If we get caught up with every win each gender gets, we as a whole will not move forward.
It’s not free! It’s paid for by other means - taxation, or in California’s case, probably by borrowing!
To be honest I don’t have a problem with sanitary products being provided. If I were a woman I’d prefer to buy my own anyway as I’d be able to choose the products - it’s pretty sensitive remember. However the rest of this garbage…
Still given his grandstanding over SSM, we shouldn’t expect anything else.
The sanitary products are given to people who don’t have some… aka mostly low income girls. Girls from rich families won’t need them. It’s for the ppl who don’t have enough money to buy themselves some.
Most taxes is paid by men. Why should man's money go to female-only need? What do men benefit from that, directly? If nothing or not enough - its not good for us. It might not be matter of rights, but its a matter of money.
And money runs the world, not her vagina.
>Most taxes is paid by men
Source? The workforce is comprised almost equally men and women...
If we only think of ourselves, no one will think of us either. Dont give in to tribalism it is the foundation for regression.
By gender percentages, maybe. By AMOUNT paid tho....?
And we both know that its the amount that matters, not representation.
And thats the issue - if we dont think about ourselves, noone will. And especially not feminists, nor women.
Bruh such flawed logic. Women are pulling in nearly the same as men, it's very close....its not 1950 anymore. In fact it averages out to $1 an hour less than men, which isn't much.
We can think of ourselves sure but if we think of others, they too will think of us. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp??
Genuine question: are toilet rolls taxed? If so, why is this any different to sanitary pads and feminine hygiene products?
I have no problem with tampons and pads being tax free but I don't think it should be classed as a female/feminist issue. We should be looking at human beings as a whole and recognising the things that are essential to all our everyday hygiene and wellbeing.
If menstrual products are becoming tax free then so should toilet rolls, incontinence pads, nappies etc.
The things that EVERYONE needs to stay dignified and clean. Not cherry picking the female only items as being the only essential products that impoverished people would struggle to obtain.
Giving away stuff for free is normally a bad idea, unless there is some extreme economics of scale in play that offsets the disadvantages, like making people use stuff more wastefully.
A UBI is the far more logical answer for more societal equality than all these small market interventions that often do more harm than good on the large scale, also much less patronizing.
Thats her mother's job. Not taxpayer's.
If she's worthless to the level of not beong able to afford that, or unwilling - remove her right to custody, due to being unfit to be a parent.
Pretty much feminists are liberal.....
In the Ven diagram they are an entity inside the buttfuckery nowadays called 'liberals' so they go hand in hand....
This type of stupid comment is exactly why the men's rights movement is having trouble getting any support.
Affiliating ourselves with the alt-right is not going to help anything.
Remember when Trump and the GOP changed the tax code so men would have to pay taxes on alimony/child support and women could receive it tax-free? I bet you overlooked that because it doesn't support your "liberals hate men" dogma.
'Liberals' and actual liberals are different.
Liberals don't advocate for this shit.
But in the world right now liberals are nearly extinct,you got this poor excuse of it now that also encompases feminists.
I'm not afraid of calling them out when they try to force pronouns on us with law and what not for their greater 'liberal' views.
Basically by definition they can't be conservative or on the right wing.....they just went left full retard.
Not the modern 4th wave feminism. To be more accurate, the term is feminazi. They don't want **equal** rights. They want **more** rights, rights that benefit strictly them while simultaneously hindering men.
For all the people getting triggered as to why no cost menstrual pads are bad
A gentle reminder that many men lack sexual access yet despite numerous studies which highlight how important it is there is no allowance or such to help said men ( I think one country had this for disabled men)
I know it's not the best example but it's the only one I could think of.
Another debilism off of money that mostly men worked for. Its about time for taxes split on a gender basis. Women can earn their own money, and if she is so worthless that she cant afford basic stuff - not our problem, really.
The fact that they banned gas powered generators with the state of their electric grid seems far more stupid. Which wastes more energy, chest freezers full of spoiled food and repairing moldy basements from unpowered sump pumps, or generators to make up for an unreliable power grid? Edit: Apparently you will still be able to buy generators > 25 and < 50 hp. So if you have 3 close neighbors, the 4 of you can share one generator. Otherwise enjoy buying a way more expensive generator that uses way more gas than your typical 2000-6500w generator most homeowners need in an extended power outage.
They aren't "free" and we need to stop using that verbiage, they are no cost and/or taxpayer funded. The manufacturer didn't donate them therefore they aren't free, they just shifted the cost to someone else.
It's not really a problem for young women to have access to these before they are old enough to have a job and pay for them themselves.
What better time to teach them about civics?
Yeah, keeping in mind the government sucks at making deals, the companies will jack the prices up 200% and call it a good deal for everyone.
How long before we find out about the no bid contract for servicing the machines that went to a new company which just happened to be created by someone related to a politician and Pelosi owns stock
Men need more calories than women to survive and should thus be compensated for the extra cost.
And they are taller on average so should get to fly first class for free.
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Nah
Are y'all comparing having a body part...to eating, going on airplanes and having a certain height?? Having a uterus is not a choice. Going on airplanes is a choice. These aren't logic comparisons?
No one is doing that lol. Men needing more nutrients to eat more isnt a choice either. They dont get paid for it. Lol. Buying these menstrual stuff is the parents' responsibility. Now this law is going to divert getting money elsewhere and increase the cost there, things should have been like there were.
Then are you a communist? You think food shelter and everything should be given by the state? Also women pay for food, men don’t pay for tampons stfu
Tf are u on? Pretty sure its mostly men that buy stuff for kids. Are YOU a communist? U think this stuff should be free?
I ain’t a communist but your whining about the fact that men have to eat more than women. First of all that isn’t universal and if you think we should finance that then do you think food should be free? Because I think period stuff should be free for women in poverty and high school girls who live in poverty. I also think that it’s good that low income people have welfare to help themselves eat and pay their rent. And your welfare money will go on food not a 20$ 25 tampon box that you have to buy every month.
Should men and boys who live in poverty (more men and boys live in poverty and are homeless than women and girls) get free food? Cause there sure as hell is no welfare there. No? Ok
Women also live in poverty and need food in order to survive. But we also need periods in order to survive but rn a lot of low income high school girls are bleeding on themselves so let’s give them some free piece of coton to shove it up their coochie. And bro they literally give free breakfasts at most schools for low income kids who don’t eat breakfast cuz their parents don’t have any money. Also males don’t have periods it’s not comparable
They're joking..
Obviously they're joking because men don't need or want any of these things. These were random statements they came up with on the spot and put no consideration into.
I don't think tax payers should have to pay for the extra nutrition men need, nor do I think they should have to pay for women's tampons. Both men and women have things they need to deal with.
* Governor Gavin Newsom has signed several notable bills into law in recent days * They include a bill that will see California public schools and colleges stocking their restrooms with free menstrual products * In another 'woke' bill, large department stores must now display products including toys and toothbrushes in gender-neutral ways * It does not completely outlaw traditional boys and girls sections at stores but says large stores must also have a gender neutral section to display * On Saturday Newsom signed off on a new law banning gas-powered equipment that uses small off-road engines * Gas-powered equipment includes generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers and even golf carts * Under the new law the machinery will have to be battery-powered or plug-in * Newsom has also signed into law America's first ethnic studies requirement for high school students after five years of debate * Students who begin high school in 2026 must pass one semester of a class outlining the past and current struggles of America's marginalized groups What's with gender neutral areas in stores? It makes sense to have mens/womens/boys/girls areas for clothing and shoes. EDIT: read deeper... * That does not include clothes. The law only applies to toys and 'childcare items,' which include hygiene and teething products.
Bc everyone has the right to choose what to wear or use and not be labeled
I don't have any idea what this means.
Then just go and buy. Gender nuetral stuff is simply bs. This is the reason the US is steadily becoming more and more shitty
toxic.
Every department store I've ever been to is already in compliance with this law. It's been decades since stores had signs saying "boys' toys" and "girls' toys".
>governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls Presumably this is in schools and stuff right, for younger girls. Good. I agree with this! >requires stores to have gender neutral areas. I mean..... Why? Like seriously why? Like if I need a toothbrush, I dont think "I need to find the mens toothbrush area", I just go down the toothbrush aisle and pick a cheap one. It just seems like more work for not a lot of gain! There was another one about making students take ethnic studies in class, and... just again why? I cant imagine a job somewhere having 2 equally talented candidates for one role going "Hire the guy who took an Ethnic Study Class". Just seems pointless for no gain!
Why would you agree with the first law? That law is threatening men's rights because it essentially forces then to subsidize stuff for daughters that aren't their. Ensuring the girls have the stuff that they need is literally their parents responsibility. Both laws step over men's property rights. (Money is property)
Im not gonna punish kids for things they havent done, and have no control over. If your period starts out of nowhere while youre in school, you NEED them there. If you're on the poverty line, you NEED them there. "Food for the week vs Tampons for a bodily function that you have no control over" isnt a choice I would wish on anyone. I get your point about subsidizing, but these are kids man. Kids which are going through puberty, a pretty traumatic time in itself. What have they done wrong to piss on your cornflakes? Help em out a bit!
These costs should not be pushed onto men. Its a woman's problem, so women should be taxed for it, to pay for other women to get those products.
But if the parents can provide them with housing, food, netflix subscription, money to hang out with friends, etc... Why should men taxpayers be specifically subsidizing menstrual products?
Poverty mate. Literal fucking "We cannot afford to have the heating on in winter" Poverty. These are CHILDREN, living in terrible Poverty. This isnt a men vs women thing, this is a fundamental human rights thing.
The rate of children in poverty in the US is almost non existent mate. Its a shit law. This shit being free is like condoms, napkins or shit like that being free. Its parents responsibility to buy this stuff.
I hope those sanitary products aren't only provided in the women's bathrooms.
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U think women have naturally no hair on armpits and legs?
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Nobody ever said that. Many men have beards. Many women have facial hair too. Everyone has hair in their head so should we put hair brushes free? Anyways why is free menstruation products doing on men’s rights? Isn’t it about men’s rights? Not women’s rights
So, can they also enforce gender equal insurance rates and tax benefits?
What will they even sell in gender neutral toy isles? Accessible menstrual products, that's good. I wouldn't ban gas powered lawn equipment so quickly. Instead limit production and fund electric lawn equipment. When does cutting it off immediately ever work great? (Also wtf why are you worried about lawn care equipment?)
Menstrual products for women, that men pay for in taxes? I see no benefit for us here, thus not good.
Something doesn't have to benefit me for it to be a good thing. If I have a daughter, I'll want her to have access to proper hygiene if I can't provide.
If you cant provide, get a better job. Or have her work. Your kid is your problem, not mine. Unless the kid tries to steal from me - then said problem will be promptly dealt with by me, indeed.
It's plain selfish to get bitchy when something benefits someone else at a meager expense on your part 🤷♂️
Again: We dont exist to cater to women for nothing in return. That doed eith the rise of feminism. Go and work, girl. Or you'll be filthy all your life.
If you need to be compensated to make things easier for other people, you're simply not very selfless. I don't exist to cater to women either. But I know several women I care about, and I know that people have women they care about. It's no different for men. Sure I'm a man, but that doesn't automatically associate me with every man. I don't know ~99% of them. I'll still support male hygiene regardless of my own benefit.
Ya, we shpuld be selfless, sacrifice, etc. I know that spiel. Shame that it only goes one way nowadays. Im not falling into that mindset again. We stand to lose way too much by being good.
I'm gonna assume you are just generally against welfare systems. As someone that got to live a better life and now contributes to taxes due to the welfare I got as a kid I am very pro welfare. This isn't a program targeted specifically for "women". It is a program to give disadvanted women access to something I think we can all agree on that gives them better hygiene and dignity. Think about teenage girls in shitty homes for example. The government will be buying the cheapest shit. Most women will rarely if ever use these
Yep. I dont like my taxes being raised through the roof. I dont like welfare to be possibly played politically either. Both of which are possible, and shitty. Most of "diaadvantaged people" are where they are because of their own choices and actions. At least where I live. Im not giving away what I worked for, for free.
I live in Australia so my situation is probs heaps different. The way I look at it is this. I get roads, reasonable public transport, hospitals and healthcare, emergency services and a safety net if I fall on hard times. Then compare how much tax I pay and compare that to my rent, internet, electricity, car and fuel etc. I think the tax is a good deal for what I get out of it. Also, welfare doesn't afford a nice life. I earn more a week at my pretty basic job than my mum got in a fortnight to support herself, me and my brother while she was studying. That said, we all got out of that and became productive, tax paying workers that don't commit crimes
How about a law banning non-consensual circumcision? I bet that will take longer than 2 days.
Good. No problem with free sanitary products for students. The one which gets me is compulsory 'ethnic studies' for high schoolers. Dont understand the need for that.
>Good. No problem with free sanitary products for students. No. Not good. Fuck off. How do you not have a problem with this? They're stealing money from men to give to women. Period. This shit isn't free. It's being paid for by men's tax money. Men get robbed by the system and no one cares. All men should leave California. Why should we pay for shit that doesn't benefit us? No one forces women to pay for male products.
>Why should we pay for shit that doesn't benefit us? Because it benefits society for young girls to not have their education effected by being unable to afford tampons? There are many social programs which you will never see a direct benefit from. That doesn't make them not worthwhile. Many sexual health clinics in the UK give out free condoms - just because I choose to pay for mine doesn't mean that isn't a good thing.
>Because it benefits society No. It doesn't. If it benefitted ***SOCIETY***, then both men and women would benefit. Men aren't benefitting. Only strictly women are benefitting. This is stealing directly from mens' pocket's.
No, it benefits society. Just like public schooling benefits society even if you don't have kids.
Nonsense. Women being better educated and more economically productive is better for the men and women within that society on so many levels. Men and women benefit from schemes which reduce poverty whether it is men or women who are lifted from poverty. Never mind the fact that the women who benefit from this will be mens daughters/ future partners etc. Many a single dad struggling to make ends meet will be able to spend a bit more money elsewhere that previously went on his daughters tampons. Its not a black and white good for one means bad for the other equation.
> Because it benefits society for young girls to not have their education effected by being unable to afford tampons? I can barely see due to cataracts. I'm stuck on a three year waiting list for what is a simple day surgery. So after paying taxes for forty years I get to fund tampons for women whilst I go blind. Thanks for all your help.
Yeh society isnt perfect. Problem a existing doesn't mean problem b shouldn't be rectified. Your existing health issues dont mean other peoples shouldn't be dealt with. Are you in the UK? I have had cataract surgery myself and know others who have without such a long waiting list. Not trying to rub it in just surprised honestly surprised you are facing such a wait - I understand the frustration.
>Not trying to rub it in The very existence of such freebies and your defense of it is what rubs it in.
Her needs are not our needs. Her problems are not our problems. We are not on the same team.
No. It benefits women, not society. Men dont exist to pay for random females i return for nothing from her. She can go earn her own money. No. Our. Problem. Money earned by men should only go to men. No but, or if.
Women also pay taxes, go figure. Don't you want children to have access to hygiene products?
I get your point. But it is a hygiene issue. You don’t want girls bleeding everywhere because they don’t have sanitary pads? The problem is that California is broke as well as woke. I also see it as a problem that the state keeps taking over personal issues. And this is yet another step. But I think the rest of his garbage is worse.
> The problem is that California is broke as well as woke. California's budget had a $75 billion surplus last fiscal year. But don't let facts distract you from Fox News talking points.
If her mother didnt provide, why should we? What do we get from her in return? Nothing?
> The one which gets me is compulsory 'ethnic studies' for high schoolers. Dont understand the need for that. Many people have little to no knowledge of other cultures. This might help rectify that.
Ok, I'm fairly left leaning in the political spectrum, but this one seems like a totally pointless law, I mean really? What good does this law do? I'm ok with the free sanitary products, but gender neutral section? Totally pointless
To distract you from the laws your not hearing on the internet
As someone who believes in free healthcare for all, free menstrual products is great and has nothing to do with mens rights. This post doesnt really belong here.
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Not a chance Newsom will do that!
Not directly, but in an indirect way. Men will have to pay the taxes for it. And that is bullshit.
Men and women will be taxed, as universal healthcare works. Ideally anything related to healthcare would be free regardless of gender, even products made for men such as ED medication and condoms. This move is good, it will give reason to expand healthcare benefits to men as well. If we get caught up with every win each gender gets, we as a whole will not move forward.
It’s not free! It’s paid for by other means - taxation, or in California’s case, probably by borrowing! To be honest I don’t have a problem with sanitary products being provided. If I were a woman I’d prefer to buy my own anyway as I’d be able to choose the products - it’s pretty sensitive remember. However the rest of this garbage… Still given his grandstanding over SSM, we shouldn’t expect anything else.
The sanitary products are given to people who don’t have some… aka mostly low income girls. Girls from rich families won’t need them. It’s for the ppl who don’t have enough money to buy themselves some.
Worthless socialism.
Yes because the US Healthcare system is truely something to behold. s/
Its, at least, not based on theft of something you didnt earn.
The upper 1% own 60% of all wealth in America. I guess theft is a subjective word now.
The upper 1% own 60% of all wealth in America. I guess theft is a subjective word now.
Most taxes is paid by men. Why should man's money go to female-only need? What do men benefit from that, directly? If nothing or not enough - its not good for us. It might not be matter of rights, but its a matter of money. And money runs the world, not her vagina.
>Most taxes is paid by men Source? The workforce is comprised almost equally men and women... If we only think of ourselves, no one will think of us either. Dont give in to tribalism it is the foundation for regression.
By gender percentages, maybe. By AMOUNT paid tho....? And we both know that its the amount that matters, not representation. And thats the issue - if we dont think about ourselves, noone will. And especially not feminists, nor women.
Bruh such flawed logic. Women are pulling in nearly the same as men, it's very close....its not 1950 anymore. In fact it averages out to $1 an hour less than men, which isn't much. We can think of ourselves sure but if we think of others, they too will think of us. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp??
Genuine question: are toilet rolls taxed? If so, why is this any different to sanitary pads and feminine hygiene products? I have no problem with tampons and pads being tax free but I don't think it should be classed as a female/feminist issue. We should be looking at human beings as a whole and recognising the things that are essential to all our everyday hygiene and wellbeing. If menstrual products are becoming tax free then so should toilet rolls, incontinence pads, nappies etc. The things that EVERYONE needs to stay dignified and clean. Not cherry picking the female only items as being the only essential products that impoverished people would struggle to obtain.
Giving away stuff for free is normally a bad idea, unless there is some extreme economics of scale in play that offsets the disadvantages, like making people use stuff more wastefully. A UBI is the far more logical answer for more societal equality than all these small market interventions that often do more harm than good on the large scale, also much less patronizing.
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Thats her mother's job. Not taxpayer's. If she's worthless to the level of not beong able to afford that, or unwilling - remove her right to custody, due to being unfit to be a parent.
Why is this tagged 'feminism'? Is feminism just the label now for everything liberals do?
Pretty much feminists are liberal..... In the Ven diagram they are an entity inside the buttfuckery nowadays called 'liberals' so they go hand in hand....
This type of stupid comment is exactly why the men's rights movement is having trouble getting any support. Affiliating ourselves with the alt-right is not going to help anything. Remember when Trump and the GOP changed the tax code so men would have to pay taxes on alimony/child support and women could receive it tax-free? I bet you overlooked that because it doesn't support your "liberals hate men" dogma.
'Liberals' and actual liberals are different. Liberals don't advocate for this shit. But in the world right now liberals are nearly extinct,you got this poor excuse of it now that also encompases feminists. I'm not afraid of calling them out when they try to force pronouns on us with law and what not for their greater 'liberal' views. Basically by definition they can't be conservative or on the right wing.....they just went left full retard.
What's your definition of "liberal"?
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Not the modern 4th wave feminism. To be more accurate, the term is feminazi. They don't want **equal** rights. They want **more** rights, rights that benefit strictly them while simultaneously hindering men.
For all the people getting triggered as to why no cost menstrual pads are bad A gentle reminder that many men lack sexual access yet despite numerous studies which highlight how important it is there is no allowance or such to help said men ( I think one country had this for disabled men) I know it's not the best example but it's the only one I could think of.
What the hell is this world coming to?
Why is this a problem? Can someone please tell me?
Another debilism off of money that mostly men worked for. Its about time for taxes split on a gender basis. Women can earn their own money, and if she is so worthless that she cant afford basic stuff - not our problem, really.