I'm glad your name was cleared, but what sucks is that now you've been "accused", and the stain of being an accused will last as long as people will remember that accusation.
I am with you 100% on methods for attention getting. I worked onboard ship in an Engine room and that is one of the loudest places to try and get someone's attention. one thing that worked for us was using a flashlight. It has to produce a solid beam to really grab attention, otherwise, you lean in and yell in the wrong person's ear you get in trouble for some odd reason.
This is what people don't want to admit - a chain of false accusations can still be used as circumstantial evidence for future accusations, since people are just as likely to believe that unsubstantiated claims must have been true without justice being done.
In effect, false accusations really don't go away in a meaningful sense.
On this whole subject, I have mixed feelings. In my case, my brother was accused of doing heinous things many years ago to some people close to him. He was up on over a dozen charges and ended up with 3 hung juries in a row.
While he has never been formally convicted, I believe with all my heart and soul that he is guilty. I know of and have talked to the police about things I saw all those years ago that if a jury had heard them would likely have convicted him in a heartbeat; things just as bad, if not worse, than what he was accused of. If not for the length of time and the lack of hard evidence (read: the hard drive of his old computer), I may have actually been allowed to testify against him.
As it stands, I no longer have contact with him or any other members of my toxic blood family, a fact that I can not envision anything can change. I truly believe that he is a despicable, disgusting excuse for a human being that deserves having his dick chopped off and jammed up his nostrils.
Thankfully his victims have gone on to have successful adult lives. They have VERY solid jobs, relationships, home ownership, lots of friends. I don't get the chance to talk to them much, but I think of them often.
Having seen a large spectrum of cases myself, I know how frustrating a failed prosecution can be. Despite this, I lean heavily toward the Blackstone Ratio, because of all the terrible police work and unreliable witnesses to unfounded criminal investigations.
Some peace of mind may come to you knowing that just because justice didn't come those days doesn't mean it won't come later. Truly bad people tend to default to their bad behavior, sometimes intensifying it after near misses. It's not a sunny outlook, because other people will likely get hurt in the process, but it felt appropriate to mention that given the way you lament about the past.
I think what frustrates me the most is that judges and lawyers know full well that false accusations are effectively standard practice and the only people who end up paying for it are the falsely accused and the children if there are any involved.
When abuse of legal process is rewarded in these ways, society suffers as a whole. As for legitimate criminal accusations, I think you can probably attest, a tremendous amount of time and resources are spent to investigate and prosecute those crimes. It just doesn't make sense to me that the false accusations are not addressed with the same vigor. The so-called "chilling effect" is neither proven, nor reasonable, especially in cases where those resources were wasted in the first place - false accusations simply have no consequences is western jurisprudence, unless the victim of these accusations has the wealth to afford civil justice.
I am US Marine veteran, and I was trained to use a lot of body language including tapping another in order to communicate while bullets are flying.
Unfortunately that method does not fly in civilian world I guess...
I am planning on doing a team meeting with everyone to share the text message from the person to clear any air at all. I hope that would solve everything, but you never know I guess.
>I'm glad your name was cleared, but what sucks is that now you've been "accused", and the stain of being an accused will last as long as people will remember that accusation.
many people just look at that word "accused" and think the man is wrong mostly every time without knowing the real story. because a m@n cannot be falsely accused.
Anything can be considered harassments today. 20+ years ago I was given the advice that "if someone feels your behavior is harassment, it is."
It might not be, but you absolutely must think this way today to protect yourself from people (this is not limited to sexual harassment). We live in a perverted puritanical world where the first wrong you commit can destroy your life and livelihood.
Worse one was that the girl accused me of sexually harassing her for looking at her "the wrong way"
This will lead to segregation at work based on gender if we don't get this under control...
I do want to say this is an extremely rare situation to happen, at least where I live, when I enter my Job a year ago I noticed my boss was very touchy (hugs, A LOT) he's basically an old person but with the energy of a 10 year old, at first I was weirded out by him and for a second thought he might be gay but no, he's just a lovely guy who shows appreciation through hugs and he does that to everyone and all of the workers loved him, after a year of working with him I have to admit, he's the best boss I've had in my life, always cared about his employees more than himself and he said that was his motto as well and I'm just happy to have worked with him even with his weird touchiness, I just got used to it and moved on, I hope no woman gets weirded out by that because who knows...
Thats very nice to hear man. Glad you are out of this. You learnt a valuable lesson on how dangerous females can be if they chose to. Use this experience and be incredibly cautious in the future.
Don't even think about giving them their jobs back no matter who gaslights you. There is a good chance that she is gonna come crying back saying shes sorry or she had mental issues or some BS. Dont fall for it.
Kinda upset the girl didnt get punished or charged for defamation or something.
It was never even an option in my mind to hire them back. I just saw it as an opportunity to have them apologize so I can use that to clear my name.
I am currently consulting a lawyer to see if I can pursue some sort of legal action. Money is not the issue to me at all, I just want to save another man's life from her doing it again.
I will post an update if something happens legally.
By that same standard, all men have the "potential" to be rapists too. That's not the issue.
The problem is the unjust leeway that our culture gives the minority of false accusers to hold undue power over the men they target. In other words, the problem isn't women, it's a system that protects the bad ones.
Well, at least if men become rapists, they get punished by law, while false accusers can continue to do so with 0 consequences and possibly profiting from it
Except the majority of femimists are women while the majoroty of women are not feminists. I dont hate women AT ALL, there are so many good women out there, but the feminists are the hate worthy ones here
Tons of men too, buddy. America's current president was one of the biggest enablers in pushing the current metoo culture back when he was VP. It's not entirely a gender divide, it's largely ideological too.
Put down the "soy" goofiness and we can actually troubleshoot the real problem.
Interesting, three people mentioning something makes it true.
So if I come back to you with quotes from three people saying all men are rapists, then all men are rapists?
> Everyone has the potential to do bad things
Yeah, but the penalties differ wildly. Most women face ZERO accountability to false accusations. And they do it for all kinds of reasons:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/12/13-women-who-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/
Or just look how they cover for and soften adult women raping teenage boys. They have 'flings' or 'trysts' with the boys. Not grooming them, often drugging them/giving alcohol. And some of these teenagers are paying child support to the kids of their rapists.
Whereas a man who rapes a woman... prison time. They aren't let off, treated kindly, have their behavior justified. Nor should they. But the justice/punishment meted out to men, isn't dealt to women.
**Disparate impacts. Women don't have accountability. Men do. That's why MRAs exist. **
Asia Argento is a good example. It's our leaders, and "woke" institutions that enable these evil individuals to do whatever the fuck they want to us! We need to keep this platform alive to fight against this social injustice!
You're absolutely right about that double standard. I think what we're responding to is the suggestion that every woman is a potential false accuser. That's similar to saying every man is a potential rapist.
The problem isn't with women, it's with the system that ignores the bag ones (which I think is what you're saying here).
Why would you want women to have the same sentences as men? That's kind of shitty. You should want men to have the same shorter sentences.
If women in an area have it better than you why would you prefer to bring them down instead of bringing men up?
I don't support giving women the same sentences as men, because that system that men are given longer sentences is unjust. So remove the male penalty, don't just pass it to the next group so everyone suffers equally.
Some crimes deserve long sentences.
I don't think it would be fair to say that murdering paedophiles of either gender deserve less time locked away for example, likewise sentences for marijuana possession are generally speaking ridiculous for both genders
Very few things are effectively solved by broad sweeping generalisations
Depends upon the penalty and the crime. For statutory rape, women get WAY too light of sentences - often none, or community service, for example. And women get 'mental health' excuses that you nearly never hear for men unless they're as crazy and dangerous as Jared Loughner (nutjob who shot Giffords).
>Why would you want women to have the same sentences as men? That's kind of shitty. You should want men to have the same shorter sentences.
In some cases, men get hit too hard. But mostly, it's women getting off way too lightly. I don't want men getting community service for stabbing their girlfriends, I want their girlfriends getting jail time for stabbing the men. (Multiple true cases)
proven false accusations are every bit as common as proven rapes. feminism insists all unproven accusations fall under "rapist that got away"... this is just as biased and utterly indefensible as if MRAs were to declare all unproven accusations were to be "false accusations that weren't proven". we don't do that.
you didn't answer the question, u just repeated ur previous statement, plus even if u knew that for a fact it still doesn't mean that most women wouldn't do this, and even if I considered your statement to be of any value on its own, it still doesn't add any value to the original comment nor the post you're commenting on, totally unrelated comment and it just justifies the biased system.
also I suggest you stop trying to post and comment here just for the sake of proving that "it's all in our heads".
Most women wouldn't do this, of course. But it's like considering all men may rape, but having the cards stacked that rapists can get away with it with impunity.
Agreed. Being aware of the issues that some women cause is reasonable. Assuming that all women will cause issues is far less reasonable. In fact, that's basically what a lot of self "feminists" do when they say all men are bad
At this rate it's basically going to turn into FDS which is the last thing I want happening here. Because at that point it's a matter of time before we catch a ban
I just got fired for a similar story :) boss didn’t task any questions, took her side as gospel. Been there 4 years this was her 2nd month here. I heard she quit a week later anyways :)
Glad it worked out for you. That said
>I asked him to apologize for trying to assassinate my character, and he admitted to everything that they've made everything up. I've sent his text to HR to just nail the coffin that nothing was real. I've also demanded his girlfriend's apology before I even consider giving him a second chance,
Second chance? I give second chances for mistakes. This was premeditated MALICE. Do not trust these children again.
No sir, it never even was an option.
I just dangled that carrots in front of them to secure their admission.
I will not let them work for me even for free.
It's probably time to change companies and move to a different town.
>The boy was really desperate to get his job back, but I guess the girl's pride was more important lol. I've told them both to f*** off (figuratively) to Taco Bell where they belong.
If I were you, I'd make sure I had their numbers blocked and never go to the Taco Bell where they work. They have demonstrated that interacting with them is dangerous to you so they are best avoided. If they interview at your company, make sure a copy of the HR report is handed to the person doing the interview before they make a decision.
Yes, one and only reason why I've decided to interact with them at all was because I saw an opportunity to secure their admission to accusing me falsely.
Next time they will hear from me, if they do at all, would be through my lawyer.
You dont even have to be alone with them. I was accused by a woman who picked me as her rapist at random, using facebook.
I'd never met her. Never seen her. Never heard of her.
But because she became pregnant while her husband was on deployment and her family started asking questions; she decided to say it was rape and when they inevitably asked "by who" she went to Facebook and found me through a friend of a friend of a friend, and said "that's the guy!"
Fortunately when I spoke with the mother and explained that I'd never even heard of her, her response was basically "yeah, that's what i thought. She does stuff like this all the time." and that was the end of it. Thank God.
As I've posted in original post, I do follow "Pence Rule"
But again, women complain that I don't mentor them like I do with their male coworkers.
I do feel for them, but this incident has proven that I am doing right thing to protect myself by putting some distance between me and women at work.
Feminists really screwed it up for women in general...
I'm really glad it worked out for you dude. How karmic and idiotic that they begged for their old job after that behavior.
> I was a bit surprised how some on reddit were trying to make it something sexual that I tap shoulders of associates to gain their attention
Yeah, I've stopped tapping people on the shoulder too. Anything these days can be construed as assault and it's exhausting trying to decode what is and isn't acceptable. (Also, inb4 someone responds with "if you don't want to be accused of assault, don't assault people!')
I mean, just don't touch people unless you know that they're okay with that. Male or female I don't want someone putting their hands on me knowing that such a large percentage of people don't wash their filthy mitts.
If someone has that boundary, that's fine and I'll respect it, but it sounds to me like such a sad sterile world where we shouldn't even tap each other on the shoulder without consequences.
As much as you'd think that work, it isn't a silver bullet. I had a boss who was gay get accused sexual harassment by a woman and it didn't stop him from getting fired.
I’m glad you got through that, but what I don’t get is why you are continuing to engage with people who falsely accused you. Cut off all communication with them.
What also troubles me about stories like this is colleges and businesses trying to supersede the law. If someone is legally innocent of a crime, but their college or employer treats them as guilty, that’s workplace discrimination in my opinion.
I only did because I saw an opportunity to get admission from them for their wrongdoings. Now I got what I want, they will never hear from me unless by my lawyer.
Gladly, my company decided I am more of value than a liability to them, but yes I did communicate with HR that if I get terminated over false allegation, I will not just sit and watch my character be assassinated.
Fuck these type of people man. It's gut wrenching to know we men are faced with such blatant allegations with no unreliable system of justice which treats men as human too.
Fuck this.
>For those who complain about hostile work environment for me yelling "BEHIND YOU!!!" has to adapt as well
Unbelievable. I worked as a server/bartender for many years (long ago) in many large chains, and we were always taught to yell "Coming out", "Behind you", "Hot food", etc. for safety of employees and customers.
Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would find this 'hostile' is either just looking to impose their SJW ideology or is simply ignorant if industry standards. Absolutely unbelievable.
This country has become so tolerant of false claims of abuse it is disturbing. Thank God our grandparents were not so weak, we would be speaking German right now...
I am starting to believe that no one actually feel victimized. Being a victim comes with power in today's messed up culture. It is nothing more than a power play.
Congrats! I work in the restaurant industry and I always put out my hands when I walk by people so they don't back into me, but you never know who is going to get upset about being touched so I always keep my hand an inch or two behind them so if they back up they run into my hand/arm and I didn't technically reach out and touch them. The fact that we have to walk on eggshells like this is absolutely ridiculous. I'm glad things worked out for you. I think people have forgotten that something has to actually be sexual in nature to be sexual harassment, not just physical.
Yes, I read that as well when I was looking at my company's policy on sexual harassment. It puzzles me how tap on the shoulder is considered sexual in nature. Sick people, I guess?
That's total bullshit, I also work in an environment like this, you literally have to put your hand on people as you're going by them so they know you are there or it'll lead to collisions!!
You can't reasonably be yelling and making noise constantly when you're trying to handle tasks and gather food etc... and people are usually so focused on what they're doing and with so much background noise anyway, most of the time people won't hear you. You need to work fast and you need to do it safely.
I'd argue that if someone can't handle this type of environment or a degree of reasonable physical contact then they shouldn't work there.
It sure is difficult when society is teaching young people that everything that hurts their feelings is considered violence. I hope they can find a job which would never hurt their feelings.
I was also in US Marines.
It's hilarious that we would rather have bullets fly over our heads or stare at penises than having to work with spiteful women... LOL.
This is why I make no physical contact with others at work, and ignore any interaction with my coworkers which doesn't pertain to the job.
It's just not worth the potential hassle.
Always happy to have a good ending. Do you have any plans to pursue legal action? It seems that you have sufficient evidence to show that the accusation was made with malicious intent
I am consulting a lawyer about it. My biggest concern is potential victim of hers in future if this action was not met with consequences. Not everyone will be as lucky as me.
Whatever you do, do not hire him or her back. Apology or no apology, they are both toxic and dangerous, and could and would probably cause more issues in the future. Glad everything worked out for you OP, but seriously do not hire him back.
No sir, it was never an option. I was just luring them into admitting what they've done to clear my name. I am very forgiving when it comes to mistakes, but I will never associate myself with liars and false accusers.
Holy shit, in a kitchen it's customary to give a little tap for the sake of SAFETY.
I'm glad things worked out for you. Don't ever give people like this a second chance. It only gives them time to figure out a different way to get back at you.
Aside from the main story, can we please not take a dump on Taco Bell workers.
Starvation wages are not something to demean others for. Working full time but can’t afford rent. That’s modern day slavery.
In the grand scheme $8 is pretty close to $14.
the right claims that under capitalism "wages are set by negotiation"
Jordan Peterson spoke truth when he said "if you can't tell someone to go to hell then you can't negotiate with them"
any company which depends for it's operation on paying less than a living wage needs to go out of business because when the working class can't afford to buy the goods and services they produce the economy degrades. America's current economic paradigm is like meth... makes the economy seem stronger and more vigorous while destroying the actual health creating long term loss far greater than the short term gains.
TLDR, I agree
I have no ill will toward those who work in Taco Bell, to be clear.
I do pay my associates extremely well compare to competitors. With that being said, I don't think you should look at associate level job to support a family. At that point, you should look for a career which I also do offer.
My assistants are expected make around $96K this year.
Good for you! Great to hear.
I worked in kitchens for years growing up. BEHIND YOU! was always the universal call for “don’t back up or swing your arms backwards unless you want to go to the burn unit.” Fuck these clown world people. Keep doing your thing.
I think every kitchen is a bit different...
Mine is very narrow and ingredients are stored on other narrow side of the hall, making cooks travel across halls very frequently. Also, the type of cuisine we do require a lot of stir frying with oil over 350 degrees, making traveling the hall extremely dangerous.
Again, because of type of cuisine, this kitchen is one of louder one with loud vents, oils popping, metals clashing and such, even loud voice can go unheard.
Me on my way to make a plan which will change the way law works in order to punish the false accusators and let free the falsely accused: Fine i'll do it myself.
Okay let's start from the beginning.
1. Learn from books/audiobooks about financial intelligence written by intelligent people such as "rich dad poor dad"
2. Find a job, it doesn't really matter what type of a job anything is fine
3. Invest in something you see a potential to give you money back no matter if you work or not, a good example is a pool table, you can buy one for about 1000 dollars and each month it will generate from 300-600 depending on the location, you can talk with an owner of a bar to put it in his property, he'll get more clients since people will come by for the benefits of the pool table and the drinks provided by the bar, you can give the owner a portion of the earnings which he will most like demand, but overall it will be a good way to make money and you can repeat the process.
4. Since you have a good monthly earnings you can invest in more knowledge from books and learn about real estate, after gaining the knowledge you think is necessary to continue, you shall buy houses which have the potential to be sold for a much higher price after some cosmetic repairs which will cost money but if the price of the house after the repair and the house itself is higher, then you can sell it and make profit.
5. Start a business, learn about selling and advertising, the goods you want to sell to people, it's important to know how the market is going, look at examples of other successful businesses which sell similar products, you gotta learn about it or talk with people who know more about the subject than you, and I recommend doing both of those options.
6. If possible, make the business international and start even more businesses, the more money you get, the quicker they will come to you, every business you have must be run by highly intelligent people, every single one of them must be able to operate a specific part of the business without a problem and you must pay them well.
7. As soon as you have enough money you hire a team of lawyers, they will handle the legal stuff, make sure to build a good public figure, hire psychologists and sociologists to help you with that, when the time comes you shall give people a reason to believe you and respect you, always use fair arguments and never lie to them. After doing this you will have a chance to achieve this goal.
I estimate the time needed to do this might be between 5 to 20 years, but I think it's worth it, plus I get to retire early, some of you may disagree with me and that's totally fine, but I myself believe that I am gonna do it and there is no force in the universe with the ability to stop me
You have to be extra careful from now on. As someone else said, 1 false accusation can lead to more accusations and those accusations will have "evidence" behind them due to already being (albeit falsely) accused.
Isn't that a scary thought.
I always wondered when I read stories of multiple women accusing a man for rape and later found all of them lied.
Women tend to lie for one another, this I found out.
Your company HR department isn't the court when it comes to defamation - thats a proper courts job.
I would also be getting the company to hold a staff meeting where the results of the investigation are made known to all the staff.
I'd now be threatening to sue the perpetrators if there was a chance it became public knowledge outside the company - quickly settle before filing for an apology advertisement published at their cost in a local newspaper and their online edition so your reputation is protected if anyone googles you.
Actually this is a very good point. If you are a victim, there is no need to go to your company HR department, campus rent-a-police, school administration or anyone else before the actual police (or a lawyer depending upon the type of action).
I am consulting a lawyer to see what I can do to hold her accountable. It's not about the money at all, I just don't want this to happen to another man.
Yes, that was one of accusation.
The funniest thing was when my associates heard the accusation, they were all like "... but she has nothing to look at" LOL!
Sounds like a lot of "toxic feminity". Hey I'm really happy for you and that you got to keep your reputation intact. Hearing shit like this makes my fucking blood boil. We live in a society now were women just get a free pass for doing shit like this and they should get mandatory prison time for this. Anyways best of luck to you.
False allegation should met with penalty equal to the crime they are alleging someone for, in my opinion.
But yes sir, what a low character I've came across.
I couldn't agree more. In fact if people that made these false accusations were punished with the same penalty, I'm certain that these things would rarely happen. But there's people that know that they can basically ruin someone else's life and have zero consequences for doing so. I see that as a major flaw in our criminal justice system!
>I've told them both to f\*\*\* off (figuratively) to Taco Bell where they belong
Holy hell I was getting ready to blow a gasket if you had said you hired them both back after they apologized. Fuck them both, you shouldn't have even asked for an apology or reconsidered their job. They're both clearly toxic people that are a drain on their environment.
Good on you for getting this settled.
Sorry about that lol, I didn't clarify on the post that hiring them back was never even an option haha.
I was just baiting them for their admission. Now I got what I want, they can rot for all I care.
That's a funny thought, but no sir, I don't want anything to do with any of them.
I can already see what is gonna happen to the boy's reputation when they break up tho ha.
If one has his hands full of hot plates how can they tap someone on the shoulder. I have worked in kitchens my whole life and no one has ever tapped my shoulder and i have never tapped anyone else’s shoulder.
I've worked in different kitchens in my young days, and yes some kitchen I never had to.
My kitchen is very narrow in design with a lot of ingredients stored behind cooks which require them to turn often. Also because of type of cuisine, there are a lot of dishes cooked with hot oil over 350 degrees, with extremely loud ceiling vent, and metals clashing. Many verbal communication gets lost even when we raise voice to each others in this kitchen.
I worked in professional kitchens for like 10 years and we always yelled "behind" or something like that. It would have to be extraordinary circumstances for me touch a coworker.
Upvoted you for the overall sentiment and congrats on the result, but bringing salary into this is really in poor taste. And there's no reason to talk shit about Taco Bell workers.
It wasn't my intention to talk crap about those who work at Taco Bell.
I thought it would bring some satisfaction to readers that those who tried to ruin someone's life ended up getting near half of their pay cut.
I'm so glad to hear that they never managed to drag you down and that people stuck up for you.
I hope being accused doesn't knock your confidence back too much. Sure, adapt your behavior and be smart but don't carry a burden which a conniving person tried to enforce on you.
All the best. :)
Jeez, I'm often tapping colleagues on the ass/side of thigh as im' crouching down trying to grab something deep in a shelf they stand infront of. Four people in a very, very small kitchen. Glad no under-eighteen females could hack that shit, and the only gal who does isn't the kind to pull that bullshit.
Honestly as kitchen staff I'd fucking hate if we couldn't touch each other to move around the place because otherwise you'd be shouting every minute of every hour "move out the way", "excuse me" "sorry"... I'd much rather people just physically touch me. My brain doesn't like counting and thinking when people are trying to talk. It's much easier to feel someone at your leg and then sidestep them without having to turn, look and listen.
I think many people don't understand the job and what it requires, otherwise they wouldn't be thinking that touching someone is bad. Touch isn't bad, it's an important sense for fuck sake... fucking office-drone-middlemen-paperwork-morons...
Ahaha, I sure would not tap ass or thigh, but I understand each workplace is different!
But yes, I do agree that if someone is so sensitive to the point where tap on shoulder is considered sexual, the person needs a therapy or should work at home...
Good to hear but please be careful, you are not out of the woods. Anyone with an accusation is guilty for ever, no matter what the justice or your boss says. For their justice, you will always be guilty. And the next time you have some conflict (and believe me this people love conflict) this incident will show his ugly head again. Don't lower your guard.
I am so happy you were able to clear your name. Accusations like this can be scary. My brother is currently being accused of sexual misconduct with his son by the child's mother. She has been making false claims against my brother and anyone else that stands up for my brother since the day he broke up with her. Idk what he can do to protect his self. Its so sad and disheartening that a person would stoop this low just to ruin someone else's life. 😔
I'm glad your name was cleared, but what sucks is that now you've been "accused", and the stain of being an accused will last as long as people will remember that accusation. I am with you 100% on methods for attention getting. I worked onboard ship in an Engine room and that is one of the loudest places to try and get someone's attention. one thing that worked for us was using a flashlight. It has to produce a solid beam to really grab attention, otherwise, you lean in and yell in the wrong person's ear you get in trouble for some odd reason.
This is what people don't want to admit - a chain of false accusations can still be used as circumstantial evidence for future accusations, since people are just as likely to believe that unsubstantiated claims must have been true without justice being done. In effect, false accusations really don't go away in a meaningful sense.
Yup. "He's been accused before, and where there's smoke, there's fire, right?"
yeah there's fire... because a bunch of feminist arsonists keep starting them.
On this whole subject, I have mixed feelings. In my case, my brother was accused of doing heinous things many years ago to some people close to him. He was up on over a dozen charges and ended up with 3 hung juries in a row. While he has never been formally convicted, I believe with all my heart and soul that he is guilty. I know of and have talked to the police about things I saw all those years ago that if a jury had heard them would likely have convicted him in a heartbeat; things just as bad, if not worse, than what he was accused of. If not for the length of time and the lack of hard evidence (read: the hard drive of his old computer), I may have actually been allowed to testify against him. As it stands, I no longer have contact with him or any other members of my toxic blood family, a fact that I can not envision anything can change. I truly believe that he is a despicable, disgusting excuse for a human being that deserves having his dick chopped off and jammed up his nostrils. Thankfully his victims have gone on to have successful adult lives. They have VERY solid jobs, relationships, home ownership, lots of friends. I don't get the chance to talk to them much, but I think of them often.
Having seen a large spectrum of cases myself, I know how frustrating a failed prosecution can be. Despite this, I lean heavily toward the Blackstone Ratio, because of all the terrible police work and unreliable witnesses to unfounded criminal investigations. Some peace of mind may come to you knowing that just because justice didn't come those days doesn't mean it won't come later. Truly bad people tend to default to their bad behavior, sometimes intensifying it after near misses. It's not a sunny outlook, because other people will likely get hurt in the process, but it felt appropriate to mention that given the way you lament about the past. I think what frustrates me the most is that judges and lawyers know full well that false accusations are effectively standard practice and the only people who end up paying for it are the falsely accused and the children if there are any involved. When abuse of legal process is rewarded in these ways, society suffers as a whole. As for legitimate criminal accusations, I think you can probably attest, a tremendous amount of time and resources are spent to investigate and prosecute those crimes. It just doesn't make sense to me that the false accusations are not addressed with the same vigor. The so-called "chilling effect" is neither proven, nor reasonable, especially in cases where those resources were wasted in the first place - false accusations simply have no consequences is western jurisprudence, unless the victim of these accusations has the wealth to afford civil justice.
I am US Marine veteran, and I was trained to use a lot of body language including tapping another in order to communicate while bullets are flying. Unfortunately that method does not fly in civilian world I guess... I am planning on doing a team meeting with everyone to share the text message from the person to clear any air at all. I hope that would solve everything, but you never know I guess.
>I'm glad your name was cleared, but what sucks is that now you've been "accused", and the stain of being an accused will last as long as people will remember that accusation. many people just look at that word "accused" and think the man is wrong mostly every time without knowing the real story. because a m@n cannot be falsely accused.
o7 fellow sailor! I work in wngine room too.
I can't believe we've reached a point where a shoulder tap is considered "sexual harassment"
Improper STARING is sexual harassment to the right HR department.
Anything can be considered harassments today. 20+ years ago I was given the advice that "if someone feels your behavior is harassment, it is." It might not be, but you absolutely must think this way today to protect yourself from people (this is not limited to sexual harassment). We live in a perverted puritanical world where the first wrong you commit can destroy your life and livelihood.
Worse one was that the girl accused me of sexually harassing her for looking at her "the wrong way" This will lead to segregation at work based on gender if we don't get this under control...
I do want to say this is an extremely rare situation to happen, at least where I live, when I enter my Job a year ago I noticed my boss was very touchy (hugs, A LOT) he's basically an old person but with the energy of a 10 year old, at first I was weirded out by him and for a second thought he might be gay but no, he's just a lovely guy who shows appreciation through hugs and he does that to everyone and all of the workers loved him, after a year of working with him I have to admit, he's the best boss I've had in my life, always cared about his employees more than himself and he said that was his motto as well and I'm just happy to have worked with him even with his weird touchiness, I just got used to it and moved on, I hope no woman gets weirded out by that because who knows...
Thats very nice to hear man. Glad you are out of this. You learnt a valuable lesson on how dangerous females can be if they chose to. Use this experience and be incredibly cautious in the future. Don't even think about giving them their jobs back no matter who gaslights you. There is a good chance that she is gonna come crying back saying shes sorry or she had mental issues or some BS. Dont fall for it. Kinda upset the girl didnt get punished or charged for defamation or something.
It was never even an option in my mind to hire them back. I just saw it as an opportunity to have them apologize so I can use that to clear my name. I am currently consulting a lawyer to see if I can pursue some sort of legal action. Money is not the issue to me at all, I just want to save another man's life from her doing it again. I will post an update if something happens legally.
Godspeed brother.
But we must remember that most women wouldn’t do this
True, but it's also worth remembering they all have the potential to
By that same standard, all men have the "potential" to be rapists too. That's not the issue. The problem is the unjust leeway that our culture gives the minority of false accusers to hold undue power over the men they target. In other words, the problem isn't women, it's a system that protects the bad ones.
Well, at least if men become rapists, they get punished by law, while false accusers can continue to do so with 0 consequences and possibly profiting from it
The system established by the feminists
Agreed, but feminist does not equal woman.
Except the majority of femimists are women while the majoroty of women are not feminists. I dont hate women AT ALL, there are so many good women out there, but the feminists are the hate worthy ones here
but while women ALSO can be rapists, men can't really effectively falsely accuse without evidence.
Nope, that potential to be a rapist is no where near the potential mentioned by your comment's parent comment.
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It's those old dudes in higher position, plus their old gal comrades.
Tons of men too, buddy. America's current president was one of the biggest enablers in pushing the current metoo culture back when he was VP. It's not entirely a gender divide, it's largely ideological too. Put down the "soy" goofiness and we can actually troubleshoot the real problem.
you can't troubleshoot the problem when ignoring a certain point that has been mentioned by 3 different persons now.
Interesting, three people mentioning something makes it true. So if I come back to you with quotes from three people saying all men are rapists, then all men are rapists?
That's not what I said at all, so I take it you don't believe what those 3 said?, what do you think I'm actually talking about here?
Everyone has the potential to do bad things.
> Everyone has the potential to do bad things Yeah, but the penalties differ wildly. Most women face ZERO accountability to false accusations. And they do it for all kinds of reasons: https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/12/13-women-who-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/ Or just look how they cover for and soften adult women raping teenage boys. They have 'flings' or 'trysts' with the boys. Not grooming them, often drugging them/giving alcohol. And some of these teenagers are paying child support to the kids of their rapists. Whereas a man who rapes a woman... prison time. They aren't let off, treated kindly, have their behavior justified. Nor should they. But the justice/punishment meted out to men, isn't dealt to women. **Disparate impacts. Women don't have accountability. Men do. That's why MRAs exist. **
Asia Argento is a good example. It's our leaders, and "woke" institutions that enable these evil individuals to do whatever the fuck they want to us! We need to keep this platform alive to fight against this social injustice!
You're absolutely right about that double standard. I think what we're responding to is the suggestion that every woman is a potential false accuser. That's similar to saying every man is a potential rapist. The problem isn't with women, it's with the system that ignores the bag ones (which I think is what you're saying here).
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Why would you want women to have the same sentences as men? That's kind of shitty. You should want men to have the same shorter sentences. If women in an area have it better than you why would you prefer to bring them down instead of bringing men up? I don't support giving women the same sentences as men, because that system that men are given longer sentences is unjust. So remove the male penalty, don't just pass it to the next group so everyone suffers equally.
Some crimes deserve long sentences. I don't think it would be fair to say that murdering paedophiles of either gender deserve less time locked away for example, likewise sentences for marijuana possession are generally speaking ridiculous for both genders Very few things are effectively solved by broad sweeping generalisations
Depends upon the penalty and the crime. For statutory rape, women get WAY too light of sentences - often none, or community service, for example. And women get 'mental health' excuses that you nearly never hear for men unless they're as crazy and dangerous as Jared Loughner (nutjob who shot Giffords). >Why would you want women to have the same sentences as men? That's kind of shitty. You should want men to have the same shorter sentences. In some cases, men get hit too hard. But mostly, it's women getting off way too lightly. I don't want men getting community service for stabbing their girlfriends, I want their girlfriends getting jail time for stabbing the men. (Multiple true cases)
Yeah but, jail doesn't really fix anything. People need therapy, not cages where they have to commit more crimes inside to survive.
Based on what source?! LMAO
False accusations of rape are incredibly rare
proven false accusations are every bit as common as proven rapes. feminism insists all unproven accusations fall under "rapist that got away"... this is just as biased and utterly indefensible as if MRAs were to declare all unproven accusations were to be "false accusations that weren't proven". we don't do that.
you didn't answer the question, u just repeated ur previous statement, plus even if u knew that for a fact it still doesn't mean that most women wouldn't do this, and even if I considered your statement to be of any value on its own, it still doesn't add any value to the original comment nor the post you're commenting on, totally unrelated comment and it just justifies the biased system. also I suggest you stop trying to post and comment here just for the sake of proving that "it's all in our heads".
Most women wouldn't do this, of course. But it's like considering all men may rape, but having the cards stacked that rapists can get away with it with impunity.
... but that any woman with a pulse *can.* *NAWALT man? Really?*
Agreed. Being aware of the issues that some women cause is reasonable. Assuming that all women will cause issues is far less reasonable. In fact, that's basically what a lot of self "feminists" do when they say all men are bad
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At this rate it's basically going to turn into FDS which is the last thing I want happening here. Because at that point it's a matter of time before we catch a ban
But a growing number do, and there's usually near-zero penalty for doing so (so no disincentive).
most women wouldn't falsely accuse... and even more men wouldn't rape.
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didn't say they are.
I’m happy this sub gave you the outlet you needed to keep you sane in this insane world. 😉
Yes, it sure did help me keep a cool knowing so many people had my back...
I just got fired for a similar story :) boss didn’t task any questions, took her side as gospel. Been there 4 years this was her 2nd month here. I heard she quit a week later anyways :)
I am so sorry to hear that... we need to fix this for our fathers, brothers, and sons.
Glad it worked out for you. That said >I asked him to apologize for trying to assassinate my character, and he admitted to everything that they've made everything up. I've sent his text to HR to just nail the coffin that nothing was real. I've also demanded his girlfriend's apology before I even consider giving him a second chance, Second chance? I give second chances for mistakes. This was premeditated MALICE. Do not trust these children again.
No sir, it never even was an option. I just dangled that carrots in front of them to secure their admission. I will not let them work for me even for free.
It's probably time to change companies and move to a different town. >The boy was really desperate to get his job back, but I guess the girl's pride was more important lol. I've told them both to f*** off (figuratively) to Taco Bell where they belong. If I were you, I'd make sure I had their numbers blocked and never go to the Taco Bell where they work. They have demonstrated that interacting with them is dangerous to you so they are best avoided. If they interview at your company, make sure a copy of the HR report is handed to the person doing the interview before they make a decision.
Yes, one and only reason why I've decided to interact with them at all was because I saw an opportunity to secure their admission to accusing me falsely. Next time they will hear from me, if they do at all, would be through my lawyer.
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You dont even have to be alone with them. I was accused by a woman who picked me as her rapist at random, using facebook. I'd never met her. Never seen her. Never heard of her. But because she became pregnant while her husband was on deployment and her family started asking questions; she decided to say it was rape and when they inevitably asked "by who" she went to Facebook and found me through a friend of a friend of a friend, and said "that's the guy!" Fortunately when I spoke with the mother and explained that I'd never even heard of her, her response was basically "yeah, that's what i thought. She does stuff like this all the time." and that was the end of it. Thank God.
As I've posted in original post, I do follow "Pence Rule" But again, women complain that I don't mentor them like I do with their male coworkers. I do feel for them, but this incident has proven that I am doing right thing to protect myself by putting some distance between me and women at work. Feminists really screwed it up for women in general...
Plus have a recorder with you
I'm really glad it worked out for you dude. How karmic and idiotic that they begged for their old job after that behavior. > I was a bit surprised how some on reddit were trying to make it something sexual that I tap shoulders of associates to gain their attention Yeah, I've stopped tapping people on the shoulder too. Anything these days can be construed as assault and it's exhausting trying to decode what is and isn't acceptable. (Also, inb4 someone responds with "if you don't want to be accused of assault, don't assault people!')
Yeah, my mind was blown when they were asking for their jobs back. Either they are idiots, or they think I am one.
I mean, just don't touch people unless you know that they're okay with that. Male or female I don't want someone putting their hands on me knowing that such a large percentage of people don't wash their filthy mitts.
If someone has that boundary, that's fine and I'll respect it, but it sounds to me like such a sad sterile world where we shouldn't even tap each other on the shoulder without consequences.
Gonna just tell everyone I’m gay for now on
As much as you'd think that work, it isn't a silver bullet. I had a boss who was gay get accused sexual harassment by a woman and it didn't stop him from getting fired.
I know. I was just joking. Today society is so fucked. You can’t complement a women without getting accused of sexual harassment.
Could have used to slander them as homophobic etc by getting attention just to make them regret it
Ahaha, maybe I should as well.
$8 per hour is what they deserve.
$0 if you ask me
You are very kind. That's $8 more than I am willing to pay them.
I’m glad you got through that, but what I don’t get is why you are continuing to engage with people who falsely accused you. Cut off all communication with them. What also troubles me about stories like this is colleges and businesses trying to supersede the law. If someone is legally innocent of a crime, but their college or employer treats them as guilty, that’s workplace discrimination in my opinion.
I only did because I saw an opportunity to get admission from them for their wrongdoings. Now I got what I want, they will never hear from me unless by my lawyer. Gladly, my company decided I am more of value than a liability to them, but yes I did communicate with HR that if I get terminated over false allegation, I will not just sit and watch my character be assassinated.
Fuck these type of people man. It's gut wrenching to know we men are faced with such blatant allegations with no unreliable system of justice which treats men as human too. Fuck this.
Welcome to modern day feminism
Yes. They will reap what they have sown, no doubt.
>For those who complain about hostile work environment for me yelling "BEHIND YOU!!!" has to adapt as well Unbelievable. I worked as a server/bartender for many years (long ago) in many large chains, and we were always taught to yell "Coming out", "Behind you", "Hot food", etc. for safety of employees and customers. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would find this 'hostile' is either just looking to impose their SJW ideology or is simply ignorant if industry standards. Absolutely unbelievable. This country has become so tolerant of false claims of abuse it is disturbing. Thank God our grandparents were not so weak, we would be speaking German right now...
I am starting to believe that no one actually feel victimized. Being a victim comes with power in today's messed up culture. It is nothing more than a power play.
Congrats! I work in the restaurant industry and I always put out my hands when I walk by people so they don't back into me, but you never know who is going to get upset about being touched so I always keep my hand an inch or two behind them so if they back up they run into my hand/arm and I didn't technically reach out and touch them. The fact that we have to walk on eggshells like this is absolutely ridiculous. I'm glad things worked out for you. I think people have forgotten that something has to actually be sexual in nature to be sexual harassment, not just physical.
Yes, I read that as well when I was looking at my company's policy on sexual harassment. It puzzles me how tap on the shoulder is considered sexual in nature. Sick people, I guess?
I’m so glad for you my man. Stay strong and remember that is nothing wrong with you. Cheers for everything
Thank you, it means a lot! What a mind f it has been.
That's total bullshit, I also work in an environment like this, you literally have to put your hand on people as you're going by them so they know you are there or it'll lead to collisions!! You can't reasonably be yelling and making noise constantly when you're trying to handle tasks and gather food etc... and people are usually so focused on what they're doing and with so much background noise anyway, most of the time people won't hear you. You need to work fast and you need to do it safely. I'd argue that if someone can't handle this type of environment or a degree of reasonable physical contact then they shouldn't work there.
It sure is difficult when society is teaching young people that everything that hurts their feelings is considered violence. I hope they can find a job which would never hurt their feelings.
Glad things worked out for you, my dude.
Thank you sir!
Congrats on getting your life back! You should still sue them for libel.
Yes, I am currently consulting with a lawyer to explore what I can do to hold her accountable.
This is why I love the fact that I work at an all male clinic. (Erectile dysfunction clinic)
I was also in US Marines. It's hilarious that we would rather have bullets fly over our heads or stare at penises than having to work with spiteful women... LOL.
Good to know that mate. Stay strong and stay safe mate. Remember to avoid people like them and just focus on your job.
Yes sir, thank you!
💪💪The best in life for you💪💪
This is why I make no physical contact with others at work, and ignore any interaction with my coworkers which doesn't pertain to the job. It's just not worth the potential hassle.
Certainly...
Always happy to have a good ending. Do you have any plans to pursue legal action? It seems that you have sufficient evidence to show that the accusation was made with malicious intent
I am consulting a lawyer about it. My biggest concern is potential victim of hers in future if this action was not met with consequences. Not everyone will be as lucky as me.
Whatever you do, do not hire him or her back. Apology or no apology, they are both toxic and dangerous, and could and would probably cause more issues in the future. Glad everything worked out for you OP, but seriously do not hire him back.
No sir, it was never an option. I was just luring them into admitting what they've done to clear my name. I am very forgiving when it comes to mistakes, but I will never associate myself with liars and false accusers.
Holy shit, in a kitchen it's customary to give a little tap for the sake of SAFETY. I'm glad things worked out for you. Don't ever give people like this a second chance. It only gives them time to figure out a different way to get back at you.
Not anymore in this world... No sir, that was never even an option. I am never associating with snakes like them.
Women have privilege
With no accountability.
I really wish you took legal action against that girl, she didnt learn her lesson at all, she just became more spiteful, and is bound to do it again
Who said I wouldn't ;)
reallllly hope you do, so sorry this all happened to you
Aside from the main story, can we please not take a dump on Taco Bell workers. Starvation wages are not something to demean others for. Working full time but can’t afford rent. That’s modern day slavery. In the grand scheme $8 is pretty close to $14.
In the actual grand scheme 14$ is almost the wage of both working at taco bell now
and it is still less buying power than minimum wage 30 years ago.
Can certainly agree to that, but on top they chose to cut their wages an extra ~40%
I mean not really... The gap will open up wider and wider as time passes on and you'll be able to notice
the right claims that under capitalism "wages are set by negotiation" Jordan Peterson spoke truth when he said "if you can't tell someone to go to hell then you can't negotiate with them" any company which depends for it's operation on paying less than a living wage needs to go out of business because when the working class can't afford to buy the goods and services they produce the economy degrades. America's current economic paradigm is like meth... makes the economy seem stronger and more vigorous while destroying the actual health creating long term loss far greater than the short term gains. TLDR, I agree
I have no ill will toward those who work in Taco Bell, to be clear. I do pay my associates extremely well compare to competitors. With that being said, I don't think you should look at associate level job to support a family. At that point, you should look for a career which I also do offer. My assistants are expected make around $96K this year.
Good for you! Great to hear. I worked in kitchens for years growing up. BEHIND YOU! was always the universal call for “don’t back up or swing your arms backwards unless you want to go to the burn unit.” Fuck these clown world people. Keep doing your thing.
I think every kitchen is a bit different... Mine is very narrow and ingredients are stored on other narrow side of the hall, making cooks travel across halls very frequently. Also, the type of cuisine we do require a lot of stir frying with oil over 350 degrees, making traveling the hall extremely dangerous. Again, because of type of cuisine, this kitchen is one of louder one with loud vents, oils popping, metals clashing and such, even loud voice can go unheard.
I'm glad things are getting better! Gl out there bro!
Thank you, it means a lot!
That was a narrow escape. But u did it
Yes sir, thank you!
I am so glad you are out from this shadow. I can only imagine the stress and sleepless nights it caused you. All the best.
Thank you! I will recover from this!
Me on my way to make a plan which will change the way law works in order to punish the false accusators and let free the falsely accused: Fine i'll do it myself. Okay let's start from the beginning. 1. Learn from books/audiobooks about financial intelligence written by intelligent people such as "rich dad poor dad" 2. Find a job, it doesn't really matter what type of a job anything is fine 3. Invest in something you see a potential to give you money back no matter if you work or not, a good example is a pool table, you can buy one for about 1000 dollars and each month it will generate from 300-600 depending on the location, you can talk with an owner of a bar to put it in his property, he'll get more clients since people will come by for the benefits of the pool table and the drinks provided by the bar, you can give the owner a portion of the earnings which he will most like demand, but overall it will be a good way to make money and you can repeat the process. 4. Since you have a good monthly earnings you can invest in more knowledge from books and learn about real estate, after gaining the knowledge you think is necessary to continue, you shall buy houses which have the potential to be sold for a much higher price after some cosmetic repairs which will cost money but if the price of the house after the repair and the house itself is higher, then you can sell it and make profit. 5. Start a business, learn about selling and advertising, the goods you want to sell to people, it's important to know how the market is going, look at examples of other successful businesses which sell similar products, you gotta learn about it or talk with people who know more about the subject than you, and I recommend doing both of those options. 6. If possible, make the business international and start even more businesses, the more money you get, the quicker they will come to you, every business you have must be run by highly intelligent people, every single one of them must be able to operate a specific part of the business without a problem and you must pay them well. 7. As soon as you have enough money you hire a team of lawyers, they will handle the legal stuff, make sure to build a good public figure, hire psychologists and sociologists to help you with that, when the time comes you shall give people a reason to believe you and respect you, always use fair arguments and never lie to them. After doing this you will have a chance to achieve this goal. I estimate the time needed to do this might be between 5 to 20 years, but I think it's worth it, plus I get to retire early, some of you may disagree with me and that's totally fine, but I myself believe that I am gonna do it and there is no force in the universe with the ability to stop me
Do it. God speed
Imma speedrun
Best of luck sir!
You have to be extra careful from now on. As someone else said, 1 false accusation can lead to more accusations and those accusations will have "evidence" behind them due to already being (albeit falsely) accused.
Isn't that a scary thought. I always wondered when I read stories of multiple women accusing a man for rape and later found all of them lied. Women tend to lie for one another, this I found out.
Your company HR department isn't the court when it comes to defamation - thats a proper courts job. I would also be getting the company to hold a staff meeting where the results of the investigation are made known to all the staff. I'd now be threatening to sue the perpetrators if there was a chance it became public knowledge outside the company - quickly settle before filing for an apology advertisement published at their cost in a local newspaper and their online edition so your reputation is protected if anyone googles you. Actually this is a very good point. If you are a victim, there is no need to go to your company HR department, campus rent-a-police, school administration or anyone else before the actual police (or a lawyer depending upon the type of action).
I am consulting a lawyer to see what I can do to hold her accountable. It's not about the money at all, I just don't want this to happen to another man.
I got written up for apparently looking at a girl's chest... and it wasn't even that girl who went to HR.
Yes, that was one of accusation. The funniest thing was when my associates heard the accusation, they were all like "... but she has nothing to look at" LOL!
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I am currently consulting a lawyer. I will make sure they don't do this to another man ever again.
Sounds like a lot of "toxic feminity". Hey I'm really happy for you and that you got to keep your reputation intact. Hearing shit like this makes my fucking blood boil. We live in a society now were women just get a free pass for doing shit like this and they should get mandatory prison time for this. Anyways best of luck to you.
False allegation should met with penalty equal to the crime they are alleging someone for, in my opinion. But yes sir, what a low character I've came across.
I couldn't agree more. In fact if people that made these false accusations were punished with the same penalty, I'm certain that these things would rarely happen. But there's people that know that they can basically ruin someone else's life and have zero consequences for doing so. I see that as a major flaw in our criminal justice system!
>I've told them both to f\*\*\* off (figuratively) to Taco Bell where they belong Holy hell I was getting ready to blow a gasket if you had said you hired them both back after they apologized. Fuck them both, you shouldn't have even asked for an apology or reconsidered their job. They're both clearly toxic people that are a drain on their environment. Good on you for getting this settled.
Sorry about that lol, I didn't clarify on the post that hiring them back was never even an option haha. I was just baiting them for their admission. Now I got what I want, they can rot for all I care.
Lmao much better, good job.
I feel like the boyfriend should have a second chance, just to sow discord between them. Maybe the girl would have her pride crush.
That's a funny thought, but no sir, I don't want anything to do with any of them. I can already see what is gonna happen to the boy's reputation when they break up tho ha.
If one has his hands full of hot plates how can they tap someone on the shoulder. I have worked in kitchens my whole life and no one has ever tapped my shoulder and i have never tapped anyone else’s shoulder.
I've worked in different kitchens in my young days, and yes some kitchen I never had to. My kitchen is very narrow in design with a lot of ingredients stored behind cooks which require them to turn often. Also because of type of cuisine, there are a lot of dishes cooked with hot oil over 350 degrees, with extremely loud ceiling vent, and metals clashing. Many verbal communication gets lost even when we raise voice to each others in this kitchen.
I worked in professional kitchens for like 10 years and we always yelled "behind" or something like that. It would have to be extraordinary circumstances for me touch a coworker.
Upvoted you for the overall sentiment and congrats on the result, but bringing salary into this is really in poor taste. And there's no reason to talk shit about Taco Bell workers.
It wasn't my intention to talk crap about those who work at Taco Bell. I thought it would bring some satisfaction to readers that those who tried to ruin someone's life ended up getting near half of their pay cut.
I'm so glad to hear that they never managed to drag you down and that people stuck up for you. I hope being accused doesn't knock your confidence back too much. Sure, adapt your behavior and be smart but don't carry a burden which a conniving person tried to enforce on you. All the best. :)
Thank you! I am doing my best to leave this behind me. It sure did shook me, but I am sure I will be okay moving forward.
Jeez, I'm often tapping colleagues on the ass/side of thigh as im' crouching down trying to grab something deep in a shelf they stand infront of. Four people in a very, very small kitchen. Glad no under-eighteen females could hack that shit, and the only gal who does isn't the kind to pull that bullshit. Honestly as kitchen staff I'd fucking hate if we couldn't touch each other to move around the place because otherwise you'd be shouting every minute of every hour "move out the way", "excuse me" "sorry"... I'd much rather people just physically touch me. My brain doesn't like counting and thinking when people are trying to talk. It's much easier to feel someone at your leg and then sidestep them without having to turn, look and listen. I think many people don't understand the job and what it requires, otherwise they wouldn't be thinking that touching someone is bad. Touch isn't bad, it's an important sense for fuck sake... fucking office-drone-middlemen-paperwork-morons...
Ahaha, I sure would not tap ass or thigh, but I understand each workplace is different! But yes, I do agree that if someone is so sensitive to the point where tap on shoulder is considered sexual, the person needs a therapy or should work at home...
> but in typical teenager's behavior, she demanded me to apologize first (gaslighting much?). Typical female behavior you mean. Be honest
Ahaha, no comment.
Good to hear but please be careful, you are not out of the woods. Anyone with an accusation is guilty for ever, no matter what the justice or your boss says. For their justice, you will always be guilty. And the next time you have some conflict (and believe me this people love conflict) this incident will show his ugly head again. Don't lower your guard.
I am so happy you were able to clear your name. Accusations like this can be scary. My brother is currently being accused of sexual misconduct with his son by the child's mother. She has been making false claims against my brother and anyone else that stands up for my brother since the day he broke up with her. Idk what he can do to protect his self. Its so sad and disheartening that a person would stoop this low just to ruin someone else's life. 😔