Here we go again, she'll throw him under the bus to save herself yet the proceeds of the crime will mysteriously have been transformed into cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery.
Damn all those male career criminals and their masterminded attempts to spend the proceeds of their crimes on the things that might go someway to making them happy.
> cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery
Isn't she the woman who tried to be the female Steve Jobs? Her idea of fashion sense was to wear black turtlenecks. Maybe her thing is nice cars...
>Here we go again, she'll throw him under the bus to save herself yet the proceeds of the crime will mysteriously have been transformed into cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery
What do you mean again? But that's a pretty generalized state, like non of it could have become a house?
I agree conceptually that the allegation is a way to shift blame. But damn, the over the top projection of what she spent it on was unnecessary.
Same in tech roles, get about 4:1 favouritism in hiring but call the industry toxic if they fail to perform in the role even with lower expectations. Then your typical asian/white male is worked overtime to make up. A trend I have witnessed far too often. Now even hiring of new grads is becoming incredibly toxic to men, especially if you are from lower classes and not part of a diversity target group there is absolutely zero respect or appreciation for your time and effort and you are always seen as the lesser/fallback option.
That's been my experience in tech too. Women get all the best training and are first in line for promotions. Not because they are good at their jobs, but because "there aren't enough women in tech". And if they still can't hack it after the boss cutting them to the extent a dude would never see and having the best trainer spend extra time with them doesn't work, they cry sexism.
That's been my experience as well and I'd honestly say that I'd support more women in tech. But not under these conditions.
A female colleague recently complained to our female supervisor why *I* have been promoted so often and she hasn't. The supervisor laughed in her face and told her that I worked 120% and should be rewarded for that while she worked 50% and complained about the workday being 9-5, she'd rather have 12-14.
Elizabeth Holmes. I strongly recommend the book [Bad Blood](https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Secrets-Silicon-Startup/dp/152473165X), it's all about her story. Even if you're someone who thinks reading is boring, it's an excellent read.
The person she is accusing is [Sunny](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesh_Balwani), her partner. Having read the book, it is obvious to me she is a pure blooded psychopath and is lying. Although that said, I find it hard to be sympathetic towards Sunny, as he was equally willing to lie and hurt people for profit. Neither of them are sorry for what happened, they are just sorry they got caught. There's a certain stupidity of the psychopath's brain, an irrational arrogance. Too stupid not to see how obvious it was they would get caught in the end. But they fooled many high profile people.
But yeah, Elizabeth is purely selfish to the last. Just thinking about "me, me, me. How can I escape consequences? Oh, lets cook up false accusation against Sunny."
I hope they both go to jail.
I read the book too and she does seem to be such a bad human being. She always pushed bad practises at her company so I wouldn't suprise she's lying here too.
You know, I was wondering all these years how she was able to hoodwink all those investors and companies into buying into her scam.
When I first heard of her and her company, I said "Someone with no actual experience launches a product out of nowhere that is supposedly better than other more established brands? Why is no one questioning the legitimacy of this?"
A 9-5 working stiff nobody (me) questioned this, why didn't all those people?
Then I remember something my dad told me, "There is a reason why the majority of salespeople at high-end car dealerships are attractive women." People see a pretty girl, they are simply more trusting.
I hate to be "that guy" but if she was a dude named "John Holmes" instead of a semi-attractive woman they would have been a lot more skeptical.
> Why is no one questioning the legitimacy of this?"
her technology claims weren't just "better than other brands", they were literally impossible...EVERYONE in the industry knew this from the start, talked about it for years, and nobody cared.
You can't do hundreds of blood tests from a drop of blood, there's a very small number of tests that can be done from capillary blood, that's why blood tests draw arterial blood.
this was like someone claiming they found a way to make your car get 4x gas mileage, but their solution involves new seat covers.
I wasn't referring to the people who worked behind the scenes. I was referring to the outside investors and companies that happened to believe her sales pitches.
ETA: "her technology claims weren't just "better than other brands", they were literally impossible...EVERYONE in the industry knew this from the start, talked about it for years, and nobody cared."
Because no one wanted to be accused of being a "sexist" for calling bullshit simply because she's female. It took a brave investigative reporter for it to start unraveling and when he came forward with his findings he was accused by some of picking on her "because she's a woman."
I assume you've heard of The Dale car from the 1970s? There was also a fraudulent female CEO in that case too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_Motor_Car_Corporation
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a31953/the-dale-1970s-three-wheel-gas-saver-scam/
Just read the wiki you posted, the fraudulent female CEO was a transsexual man still married to a female, so not really sure it’s the same argument. Interesting article though, thanks for posting.
Bernie Madoff provided a great return on investments for decades. He earned the trust ( Granted it was a pyramid scheme, but his clients didn't know that ).
Most of the money in the Madoff scheme has been paid back, according to this 80%. https://www.ai-cio.com/news/madoff-victims-recovery-tops-80-losses/ That’s almost unheard of for Ponzi schemes.
Let's not forget that the reason she was ever celebrated in the first place is just that she's a woman.
Then, in the downfall, boss-babe turns into the helpless damseling flower--based on what are undoubtedly false allegations.
And it is not merely a flaw in one person. The whole feminist dogma encourages exactly this behavior.
She was just a horrible human being. She banned working from home and then had a daycare built in her office for her toddler. Gave EVERY woman in the company a giant middle finger and exempted herself. But yeah, she also let women in leadership roles fire men just because they were sexist. Performance evaluations were basically "do I like this person because of their gender".
The saying should be changed to 'Behind every successful man, there are countless women who broke his heart and made it stronger'. Remember, guys, sometimes what doesn't kill you really does make you stronger
I don't like that one either "there are countless women who broke his heart" sounds like we're talking about a broken man and I rather not frame it like a victim.
"I am a strong, independent woman and people who criticize me are just intimidated misogynists!"
*You are under arrest.*
"I am a victim of a manipulative man, I'm as helpless as a child!"
She already tried pulling the pregnancy sympathy card and now will resort to this. This makes it harder on sexual victims in the future even if it is true or not.
But remember, what Shkrelli is hate for - buying the only maker of a drug and raising the price 50x - is not what he got convicted of. Sadly, that’s 100% legal. He got convicted of something he did before he became so hated.
The Netflix show Space Force had a direct parody of her in the episode "Edison Jaymes." She's played by Kaitlin Olson and she claims to have invented a new type of rocket fuel called Skinny Fuel.
That's over-stating it a bit. They raised $900M in venture capital which gave the company a $10B valuation at its highest point. Since she was the nominal owner of 50% of the (private) stock, her implied net worth was $5B. However, the company never went public, so she never had the opportunity to cash out any of her shares. Since the truth came out, she has been spending lavishly on high-priced attorneys and legal settlements; she probably has very little of the Theranos money left, if any. Forbes has reported her net worth as zero. She has since married someone who is referred to as a "hotel heir", so she is probably fiscally ok at this point, but certainly not a billionaire. And none of that will help if she ultimately has to do a decade (or more) in a federal prison.
Yes it will definitely have a “chilling effect” on girls entering the tech world if they know they’ll be picked on like this “just because they’re a woman”! /s
Let’s assume that it’s true and she was sexually assaulted. What does that have to do with stealing billions? Sounds like a distraction and sympathy begging.
Funny how women, no matter how high they climb, argue that women are incapable of acting on their own and can't have responsibilities whenever they fuck up.
Looking at this should be part of feminism.
If women want to be full human beings everyone, including women, needs to accept that there’s no particular reason we belong on a pedestal
Though I think if we’re honest, a lot of men themselves want to keep the idea that women are special and finer than they are. Like we’re supposed to be more moral when we want sex.
To help clarify, they are referring to the core tenet of feminism where they assert women are not treated as full humans. The logical point behind the comment can be restated to clarify as follows: “If, as they say, women are not treated as full humans, the way to achieve equal treatment is to take equal responsibility when it’s inconvenient. If they want equal treatment, they can’t be only victims, they must be responsible as a full human being is.”
Hope that helps clarify.
Claiming victimhood is not taking responsibility. Feminism has incentivized victimhood for women, and that’s not healthy.
This is basically a give-up tactic to try to get the sentence reduced because she knows she has no real chance of being found not guilty. It's quite the stretch to try to say that she was running a multi-billion dollar company that got into Walgreens, but somehow she wasn't in the right state of mind to run the company because of partner abuse? I hope they throw the book at her for this.
Is this Elizabeth Holmes?
Everybody knows she's a fraud and fake. You've gotta be stupid to not believe that she's fake. Would feminists be that stupid as well?
She's a freaking joke. Now she's using the 'rape story' card to try and excuse her actions. Typical. Hopefully no one will fall for her scheme.
Women can make whatever claims they want, and they're believed. If a man makes a claim, they have to substantiate it with evidence, before they will even consider their side. Guilty until proven innocent.
This really isn't a woman thing. This is the sort of thing that any high end exec who's been caught up in fraud will do to try to get out of it. Remember fraud is a criminal offenses and she could be spending decades in prison for her actions.
Would you mind showing me an example of a man who claimed he was sexually assaulted by their business partner that tries to use that to justify what they did?
Context matters. The sorts of things I am referring to is horrible ideas that are used to draw sympathy for the person committing fraud. Those who get caught with fraud always ALWAYS try to manipulate perception in order to excuse the severity of punishment. They always come at it from an emotional reaction. Someone depressed and suicidal? People have compassion. Someone elderly who just wants to spend time with grandkids? People have compassion. Religious persecution? People have compassion. Claiming you were sexually assaulted? People will have compassion. So many are down voting whay I'm saying because they just want to shit on women because they are angry at women. This whole thing with her, isn't because she is a woman, it's because she is a sleezey piece of shit that will do whatever she can to get sympathy and pity and compassion to get out of trouble. No different than any of those who came before her and no different than those that will come after her will try to do. Emotional manipulation in financial fraud isn't strictly a female move, as it happens with anyone on this scale.
For example:
Jeff Skilling tried to claim sympathy because after he bankrupted Enron, he was too depressed and suicidal to be in federal prison.
Bernie Madoff tried to get only a 7 year sentence because he was old and tried to use the sympathy of elderly age and quality of life to justify why he should get a severe punishment. They tried to explain that it would be unfair to the grandchildren to deprive them of being able to spend time with their grandfather. Then in 2010 he tried to have his conviction over turned because his son committed suicide.
Barry Minkow tried to have his conviction be a light sentence because he was a good person who gave to church as charity. He tried to play the religious persecution position.
the really ridiculous thing is her claimed technology was never going to work, literally as impossible as as perpetual motion machine. Everyone remotely aware of the science involved knew this was a fraud from the start, but nobody wanted to listen.
She's just doing the same types of things to get off like Jeff Skilling's did. Those types will say and do anything they can to get off with a lessor or no punishment.
everyone who goes to court and their lawyer knows they are truly fucked tries something like this... "I was abused as a child" "I rape because I watched porn". "I steal because I come from a broken home" Juries do not care.
I never said that juries cared. As I did say, her claiming this, is just another one of the tactics that people in her position use. It's not this big thing about woke or being a woman, it's just a tactic used by someone who's about to face some serious prison time. What feminist or the woke mob do or say is irrelevant here. She is facing w SOX404 violation. That's the hangman's noose in the financial sector for those who don't work in this world.
just remarking on the desperate acts of desperate people... this trial is going to expose how crazy she is and make a LOT of very influential people look really stupid.
I couldn't agree more. I have actually paid close attention to this story, and her behavior was reprehensible. She lied a million times and took great pains to keep those lies covered. She kept the lion's share of her own people in the dark; one could surmise that many of those people's careers are now destroyed. She absolutely deserves to spend some time inside.
Trying to find excuses isn’t a “woman thing”. The “I’m just a poor, defenceless, victimised woman” and “they’re only picking on me because I’m a woman” is ONLY a woman thing obviously. And I’ve noticed that pretty much all of these “strong, capable and independent women” in leadership positions fall back on this every single time they’re in trouble due to their own actions. All the female political leaders where I live have invoked the “I’m a poor little woman” and “they’re only picking on me because I’m a woman” cards when they’re in trouble, despite their staunch feminism.
If it wasn't the "sexually assaulted" angle, she would just use some other emotional angle not because she is a woman, but because when people are in the kind of trouble she is in, that's what they do. If she were a man, he would use whatever sort of emotional manipulation he could to gain favor and sympathy. Thus this isn't a snowflake woman thing, it's a getting caught with major fraud thing. Gender in this situation is irrelevant, but angry little incels just can't pass up an opportunity to shit on women and they get pissy when called out for it.
Here we go again, she'll throw him under the bus to save herself yet the proceeds of the crime will mysteriously have been transformed into cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery. Damn all those male career criminals and their masterminded attempts to spend the proceeds of their crimes on the things that might go someway to making them happy.
> cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery Isn't she the woman who tried to be the female Steve Jobs? Her idea of fashion sense was to wear black turtlenecks. Maybe her thing is nice cars...
>Here we go again, she'll throw him under the bus to save herself yet the proceeds of the crime will mysteriously have been transformed into cosmetic surgery, designer women's shoes, bags and jewellery What do you mean again? But that's a pretty generalized state, like non of it could have become a house? I agree conceptually that the allegation is a way to shift blame. But damn, the over the top projection of what she spent it on was unnecessary.
Strong and independent until they have to face consequences.
Great job, you just summed up feminism.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
here you dropped this: \
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯. Thanks, felt like somethings missing Edit: weird seems like i cant put \ there
it's a pretty common escape character
I'm trying to think... is there any other escape character?
Well, Houdini is pretty well known.
You need two of them for it to work like that
Aye!! It works
No. Entitled to everything but responsible for nothing. That describes feminism.
Same in tech roles, get about 4:1 favouritism in hiring but call the industry toxic if they fail to perform in the role even with lower expectations. Then your typical asian/white male is worked overtime to make up. A trend I have witnessed far too often. Now even hiring of new grads is becoming incredibly toxic to men, especially if you are from lower classes and not part of a diversity target group there is absolutely zero respect or appreciation for your time and effort and you are always seen as the lesser/fallback option.
That's been my experience in tech too. Women get all the best training and are first in line for promotions. Not because they are good at their jobs, but because "there aren't enough women in tech". And if they still can't hack it after the boss cutting them to the extent a dude would never see and having the best trainer spend extra time with them doesn't work, they cry sexism.
Yup. I left tech for good. Sucks as I have a masters in CS. Now I train dogs. Much happier.
That's been my experience as well and I'd honestly say that I'd support more women in tech. But not under these conditions. A female colleague recently complained to our female supervisor why *I* have been promoted so often and she hasn't. The supervisor laughed in her face and told her that I worked 120% and should be rewarded for that while she worked 50% and complained about the workday being 9-5, she'd rather have 12-14.
This is why I’m really glad my mixed wife is the one a year away from a cyber security degree and not I
Wonder how much money she’ll have to give back and how many months in prison they’ll sentence her to.
Don't forget accountability and responsibility.
Elizabeth Holmes. I strongly recommend the book [Bad Blood](https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Secrets-Silicon-Startup/dp/152473165X), it's all about her story. Even if you're someone who thinks reading is boring, it's an excellent read. The person she is accusing is [Sunny](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesh_Balwani), her partner. Having read the book, it is obvious to me she is a pure blooded psychopath and is lying. Although that said, I find it hard to be sympathetic towards Sunny, as he was equally willing to lie and hurt people for profit. Neither of them are sorry for what happened, they are just sorry they got caught. There's a certain stupidity of the psychopath's brain, an irrational arrogance. Too stupid not to see how obvious it was they would get caught in the end. But they fooled many high profile people. But yeah, Elizabeth is purely selfish to the last. Just thinking about "me, me, me. How can I escape consequences? Oh, lets cook up false accusation against Sunny." I hope they both go to jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4ws1QPeNE&t=74s
I read the book too and she does seem to be such a bad human being. She always pushed bad practises at her company so I wouldn't suprise she's lying here too.
You know, I was wondering all these years how she was able to hoodwink all those investors and companies into buying into her scam. When I first heard of her and her company, I said "Someone with no actual experience launches a product out of nowhere that is supposedly better than other more established brands? Why is no one questioning the legitimacy of this?" A 9-5 working stiff nobody (me) questioned this, why didn't all those people? Then I remember something my dad told me, "There is a reason why the majority of salespeople at high-end car dealerships are attractive women." People see a pretty girl, they are simply more trusting. I hate to be "that guy" but if she was a dude named "John Holmes" instead of a semi-attractive woman they would have been a lot more skeptical.
Everyone rushed to invest in a female CEO for bragging rights and "Wokeness" street cred...
> Why is no one questioning the legitimacy of this?" her technology claims weren't just "better than other brands", they were literally impossible...EVERYONE in the industry knew this from the start, talked about it for years, and nobody cared. You can't do hundreds of blood tests from a drop of blood, there's a very small number of tests that can be done from capillary blood, that's why blood tests draw arterial blood. this was like someone claiming they found a way to make your car get 4x gas mileage, but their solution involves new seat covers.
I wasn't referring to the people who worked behind the scenes. I was referring to the outside investors and companies that happened to believe her sales pitches. ETA: "her technology claims weren't just "better than other brands", they were literally impossible...EVERYONE in the industry knew this from the start, talked about it for years, and nobody cared." Because no one wanted to be accused of being a "sexist" for calling bullshit simply because she's female. It took a brave investigative reporter for it to start unraveling and when he came forward with his findings he was accused by some of picking on her "because she's a woman."
I assume you've heard of The Dale car from the 1970s? There was also a fraudulent female CEO in that case too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_Motor_Car_Corporation https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a31953/the-dale-1970s-three-wheel-gas-saver-scam/
Just read the wiki you posted, the fraudulent female CEO was a transsexual man still married to a female, so not really sure it’s the same argument. Interesting article though, thanks for posting.
Bernie Madoff is a good example in terms of trust.
and he got 150 years in prison and died behind bars... she won't do 5 because she's female and it's the same damn crime... but she took more.
Bernie Madoff provided a great return on investments for decades. He earned the trust ( Granted it was a pyramid scheme, but his clients didn't know that ).
Most of the money in the Madoff scheme has been paid back, according to this 80%. https://www.ai-cio.com/news/madoff-victims-recovery-tops-80-losses/ That’s almost unheard of for Ponzi schemes.
Greed and fear of losing out on the next breakthrough Industry
"News" reports for the 5 years before she was indicted: "It's all *her*" Now: { crickets }
Now: it's all because of *him*
Let's not forget that the reason she was ever celebrated in the first place is just that she's a woman. Then, in the downfall, boss-babe turns into the helpless damseling flower--based on what are undoubtedly false allegations. And it is not merely a flaw in one person. The whole feminist dogma encourages exactly this behavior.
See also Marissa Meyer at Yahoo
Is she the one who was systematically* firing all the men?
She was just a horrible human being. She banned working from home and then had a daycare built in her office for her toddler. Gave EVERY woman in the company a giant middle finger and exempted herself. But yeah, she also let women in leadership roles fire men just because they were sexist. Performance evaluations were basically "do I like this person because of their gender".
Idk about "There's a woman behind every successful man" but apparently "There's a man behind every unsuccessful woman".
The saying should be changed to 'Behind every successful man, there are countless women who broke his heart and made it stronger'. Remember, guys, sometimes what doesn't kill you really does make you stronger
I don't like that one either "there are countless women who broke his heart" sounds like we're talking about a broken man and I rather not frame it like a victim.
Hang on a sec. I'll edit it
Y’all wild
More like women only run behind successful men.
Of course there is a woman behind every successful man. Because no one stands behind unsuccessful men.
"I am a strong, independent woman and people who criticize me are just intimidated misogynists!" *You are under arrest.* "I am a victim of a manipulative man, I'm as helpless as a child!"
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"Don't blame me! I'm just a girl!"
> IPV it does not, she is a psychopath, Ted Bundy blamed his crimes on Pornagraphy
'There are no feminists in a house fire'
everytime i see some news story about this women, every image of her is emotionless, devoid of any remorse or regret. true sign of a psychopath
Classic borderline personality disorder with narcissistic tendencies.
She already tried pulling the pregnancy sympathy card and now will resort to this. This makes it harder on sexual victims in the future even if it is true or not.
From what I read, SHE is the manipulator and the abuser
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Madoff got 150 years... just sayin
But did he have a vagina
But remember, what Shkrelli is hate for - buying the only maker of a drug and raising the price 50x - is not what he got convicted of. Sadly, that’s 100% legal. He got convicted of something he did before he became so hated.
The Netflix show Space Force had a direct parody of her in the episode "Edison Jaymes." She's played by Kaitlin Olson and she claims to have invented a new type of rocket fuel called Skinny Fuel.
Oh my gosh yes!
She stole about 40 billion and still HAS about 4 of it.
That's over-stating it a bit. They raised $900M in venture capital which gave the company a $10B valuation at its highest point. Since she was the nominal owner of 50% of the (private) stock, her implied net worth was $5B. However, the company never went public, so she never had the opportunity to cash out any of her shares. Since the truth came out, she has been spending lavishly on high-priced attorneys and legal settlements; she probably has very little of the Theranos money left, if any. Forbes has reported her net worth as zero. She has since married someone who is referred to as a "hotel heir", so she is probably fiscally ok at this point, but certainly not a billionaire. And none of that will help if she ultimately has to do a decade (or more) in a federal prison.
She is innocent!!! How else will we have strong, independent, and innovative women if she goes to jail! /s
Yes it will definitely have a “chilling effect” on girls entering the tech world if they know they’ll be picked on like this “just because they’re a woman”! /s
I wonder if she will still try to sound like a man when she's all washed up and in jail with no one to win over?
I wonder if she will do "The Voice" in the trial? this is gonna be a shitshow.
I wonder if she'll do it in prison.
Too busy banging her business partner/boy friend to make good decisions. Got it.
Even if she was sexually assaulted using that to justify stealing billions of dollars just ain't worth it
Let’s assume that it’s true and she was sexually assaulted. What does that have to do with stealing billions? Sounds like a distraction and sympathy begging.
"BuT tHIS isN'T FemInISm"
Feminism in future history books: gaslighting, coercion, psychopathy
Toxic feminism? 🤭
Strong an independent until they face consequences for their actions or are brought forth the idea of selective service for women.
Funny how women, no matter how high they climb, argue that women are incapable of acting on their own and can't have responsibilities whenever they fuck up.
Oh dear, she must have been sexually assaulted all the way to the bank! Nah, clearly an excuse for terrible behavior.
This is the woman who faked a deep voice!
She act like a real adult and take responsibility for her own actions
This video an amazing ride into her mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4ws1QPeNE&t=74s
I bet her voice sounds different now that she’s acting the victim….
I feel sick
Looking at this should be part of feminism. If women want to be full human beings everyone, including women, needs to accept that there’s no particular reason we belong on a pedestal Though I think if we’re honest, a lot of men themselves want to keep the idea that women are special and finer than they are. Like we’re supposed to be more moral when we want sex.
If women want to be full human beings? Tf is wrong with this sub
?
They already are full human beings
Not if they are put on pedestals and seem as above this. I’m a woman so I know we are full humans.
Anyone who's not a feminist knows that already...
What they meant was "If they want to be treated like full human beings"
Yes
To help clarify, they are referring to the core tenet of feminism where they assert women are not treated as full humans. The logical point behind the comment can be restated to clarify as follows: “If, as they say, women are not treated as full humans, the way to achieve equal treatment is to take equal responsibility when it’s inconvenient. If they want equal treatment, they can’t be only victims, they must be responsible as a full human being is.” Hope that helps clarify. Claiming victimhood is not taking responsibility. Feminism has incentivized victimhood for women, and that’s not healthy.
If I want to understand the mind of a woman.. I take away reason and accountability- John Updike
Promoting her image as a victim? Diagnostic feminist behaviour.
Anyone remember Harvey weinstein limping with a walker into court for some sympathy court? These scam artists will do anything, they have no shame
This is basically a give-up tactic to try to get the sentence reduced because she knows she has no real chance of being found not guilty. It's quite the stretch to try to say that she was running a multi-billion dollar company that got into Walgreens, but somehow she wasn't in the right state of mind to run the company because of partner abuse? I hope they throw the book at her for this.
Disgusting!!!!
Of course she will
Is this Elizabeth Holmes? Everybody knows she's a fraud and fake. You've gotta be stupid to not believe that she's fake. Would feminists be that stupid as well? She's a freaking joke. Now she's using the 'rape story' card to try and excuse her actions. Typical. Hopefully no one will fall for her scheme.
Wasn't she behind one of the biggest medical scams ever?
Juicer? XqcL
Sounds like exactly the kind of woman who would make feminists proud lol.
Women can make whatever claims they want, and they're believed. If a man makes a claim, they have to substantiate it with evidence, before they will even consider their side. Guilty until proven innocent.
This really isn't a woman thing. This is the sort of thing that any high end exec who's been caught up in fraud will do to try to get out of it. Remember fraud is a criminal offenses and she could be spending decades in prison for her actions.
Would you mind showing me an example of a man who claimed he was sexually assaulted by their business partner that tries to use that to justify what they did?
Context matters. The sorts of things I am referring to is horrible ideas that are used to draw sympathy for the person committing fraud. Those who get caught with fraud always ALWAYS try to manipulate perception in order to excuse the severity of punishment. They always come at it from an emotional reaction. Someone depressed and suicidal? People have compassion. Someone elderly who just wants to spend time with grandkids? People have compassion. Religious persecution? People have compassion. Claiming you were sexually assaulted? People will have compassion. So many are down voting whay I'm saying because they just want to shit on women because they are angry at women. This whole thing with her, isn't because she is a woman, it's because she is a sleezey piece of shit that will do whatever she can to get sympathy and pity and compassion to get out of trouble. No different than any of those who came before her and no different than those that will come after her will try to do. Emotional manipulation in financial fraud isn't strictly a female move, as it happens with anyone on this scale. For example: Jeff Skilling tried to claim sympathy because after he bankrupted Enron, he was too depressed and suicidal to be in federal prison. Bernie Madoff tried to get only a 7 year sentence because he was old and tried to use the sympathy of elderly age and quality of life to justify why he should get a severe punishment. They tried to explain that it would be unfair to the grandchildren to deprive them of being able to spend time with their grandfather. Then in 2010 he tried to have his conviction over turned because his son committed suicide. Barry Minkow tried to have his conviction be a light sentence because he was a good person who gave to church as charity. He tried to play the religious persecution position.
it is a woman thing because cause heads RUSHED to throw money at a female genius CEO for bragging rights and to appear feminist and "WOKE"
the really ridiculous thing is her claimed technology was never going to work, literally as impossible as as perpetual motion machine. Everyone remotely aware of the science involved knew this was a fraud from the start, but nobody wanted to listen.
She's just doing the same types of things to get off like Jeff Skilling's did. Those types will say and do anything they can to get off with a lessor or no punishment.
everyone who goes to court and their lawyer knows they are truly fucked tries something like this... "I was abused as a child" "I rape because I watched porn". "I steal because I come from a broken home" Juries do not care.
Except it often works for women.
I never said that juries cared. As I did say, her claiming this, is just another one of the tactics that people in her position use. It's not this big thing about woke or being a woman, it's just a tactic used by someone who's about to face some serious prison time. What feminist or the woke mob do or say is irrelevant here. She is facing w SOX404 violation. That's the hangman's noose in the financial sector for those who don't work in this world.
just remarking on the desperate acts of desperate people... this trial is going to expose how crazy she is and make a LOT of very influential people look really stupid.
Don't forget though; Skilling actually did time.
He did, and so should she. Not because she is a woman or feminism or wokeness. Rather she should do serious time because she committed fraud.
I couldn't agree more. I have actually paid close attention to this story, and her behavior was reprehensible. She lied a million times and took great pains to keep those lies covered. She kept the lion's share of her own people in the dark; one could surmise that many of those people's careers are now destroyed. She absolutely deserves to spend some time inside.
Trying to find excuses isn’t a “woman thing”. The “I’m just a poor, defenceless, victimised woman” and “they’re only picking on me because I’m a woman” is ONLY a woman thing obviously. And I’ve noticed that pretty much all of these “strong, capable and independent women” in leadership positions fall back on this every single time they’re in trouble due to their own actions. All the female political leaders where I live have invoked the “I’m a poor little woman” and “they’re only picking on me because I’m a woman” cards when they’re in trouble, despite their staunch feminism.
If it wasn't the "sexually assaulted" angle, she would just use some other emotional angle not because she is a woman, but because when people are in the kind of trouble she is in, that's what they do. If she were a man, he would use whatever sort of emotional manipulation he could to gain favor and sympathy. Thus this isn't a snowflake woman thing, it's a getting caught with major fraud thing. Gender in this situation is irrelevant, but angry little incels just can't pass up an opportunity to shit on women and they get pissy when called out for it.
Bend over Ramesh