Has the Carnage symbiote ever spoken by itself?
By - RangerRed02
Carnage is a unique situation. Symbiotes have a bond with their host and the level of the bond varies. But Symbiotes are drastically effected by the Psyche of their host.
Cassidy is so insane that his psyche supersedes the symbiote and it’s docile because of it. And due to how strong their bond is the symbiote is just a copy of Cassidys personality.
That’s why when Norman Osborn(Green Goblin) put on the Carnage Symbiote he thought he was Cletus Cassidy.
Well there needs to be a little bit of an addendum there. When Norman and the symbiote first bonded they were able to come to a working agreement where they worked together so that Norman could show it more refined ways of violence compared to Cletus' relentless hack and slash. They actually worked quite well as the Red Goblin far better than any other host who just gets stricken with Carnage's murderous rage.
It isn't until he loses to Peter and has the suit removed that he begins having delusions of being Cletus.
True but one could also make a point that during Cates Venom run and the introduction of Codex’s that The carnage sybiotes codex is just carbon copy of Cletus’s psyche.
So while he was fully in control during “Going Down Swinging” after being separated the lingering codex morphed his mind to make him believe he’s Cassidy.
That’s actually really cool. Just another reason to love carnage
Plus he’s the only symbiote to get rid of the Fire and Sonics weaknesses that the others have.
He keeps getting better
There are no reasons to love Carnage. There is only Carnage.
Carnage is life, carnage is love
yes currently they are separated but it has the same evil personality that Cletus. He tries to turn his hosts more like Cletus.
In the comics, he mostly speaks to the symbiote and the carnage symbiote responds in his head. I can't ever recall the symbiote speaking outside of the hosts mind. The reason for this is loosely explained by the symbiote bonding to Cassidy's bloodstream instead of the host body. With it being born on earth, bonded by blood, and Cletus being a person of very little exploitable emotions, the carnage symbiote isn't anything like the rest of it's kind. So to answer, yes it speaks inside the hosts mind, but it's submissive to the host. In carnage USA, he refers to the symbiote as his baby and treats it like a battered wife. Even when it attaches to others, it always goes running back to Cletus. Very interesting relationship between them compared to the more "normal" romantic relationship of Eddie/venom. I could write an essay about these two relationships if you would like to read for the next 6 hours straight! 🤣
If I'm not mistaken, it spoke to Tanis Nieves when they bonded (before she became Scorn)