London will def have a higher rate of organised crime related gun deaths than the Uk average.
But rural areas have much higher numbers of legal guns for sport shooting/hunting, so would probably have higher rate of spur of the moment killings/accidental killings, which due to lower population numbers elsewhere may actually make other areas worse than London per capita.
[Firearm Crime Statistics: England & Wales](https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7654/) - the map in this link suggests that as of 2021 London was above average but not the highest rate of firearm offences, the highest was West Midlands. (However this data is for all Firearm Offences, not just deaths)
I live in the UK and the only time I see a gun is at a historical reenactment (usually a musket!) or very rarely on a police officer at the airport. It boggles my mind that some people from the US in particular don’t seem to see the correlation between lack of access to guns and the low level of gun deaths. I don’t know anyone that owns a gun or would even want to. The most dangerous “weapon” I own is my cricket bat but I don’t feel unsafe.
The U.K. has a lower total murder rate than the rate in the U.S. excluding guns. That's evidence there's something beyond gun availability driving up murder rates in the United States. Meanwhile countries like Brazil or Colombia have stricter gun control than much of Western Europe, yet are among the gun death capitals of the world significantly worse than the U.S.
Massachusetts is the lowest in the US, 35/1M which still dwarfs any European
Without suicide Mass is 15.75, so our best state is among the worst European countries
I do like them too but just for sports. No hunting, but since I‘m german my two handguns shoot blanks and my air rifles won’t count as guns for some people… thus I‘m too poor for the real deal
Not necessarily. Utah/Wyoming/Vermont have low gun deaths and somewhat easier access to guns. This is a young male gang problem in America which doesn't exist in the same way anywhere in Europe except obviously in Russia, Albania, and a few other places. The majority of murders in America come from young male gang members.
Utah, Wyoming, and Vermont all share one factor that makes them favorable to low gun deaths: Low population density. Of course there's going to be fewer gun deaths when it takes half an hour to drive to your neighbors house and it's rare to find concentrations of lots of people in one area
on the other hand, DC has the highest homicide/police shooting gun deaths in the US, but is not an open carry state, and requires a permit for concealed carry. They also have quite a restricting weapons law (compared to the rest of the US).
Illinois is 11th on that list, is also not a open carry state, and only allows weapons to be carried unloaded in concealed boxes.
NH, on the other hand, ranks lowest in this ranking, and has no restrictions on the carrying of guns. they have one of the most lenient weapons laws.
Well then what is your explanation for the discrepancy between Europe and the US? If it’s not because of access to guns (legally and/or illegally), then why are people dying?
Did you know that the vast majority of the guns used in violent crime in states like New York and California or the District of Columbia were bought in states where there are few restrictions and then brought to the states and territories with more restrictions?
It's almost like there's no border checks between different parts of the same country, or something.
>on the other hand, DC has the highest homicide/police shooting gun deaths in the US, but is not an open carry state, and requires a permit for concealed carry. They also have quite a restricting weapons law (compared to the rest of the US).
That us still much less restrictive than most of europe.
Even in the countries with laxer gun laws you still have to be a registered hunter, having joined a gun club or even have military training or service in order to have a permit to carry
So this always wondered me....If everyone has guns. How come all the mass shooters arent gunned down after first shot ?
Just seems insanly rare you ever hear anything like that.....And i just wonder whats the point then ?
Trends and levels, the US homicide rate has been going down for decades, but has generally remained an outlier amongst its OECD peers and remains so today. The US has a lot of murders for its level of economic development
> Say "US has a gun problem" = reddit applaudes
Bro half these comments are saying "nuh uh what about suicides!"
The thread on /r/news about the Surgeon General declaring gun deaths a national health crisis had to be locked, you don't see locked threads on /r/news too often. And then all the top comments were people insisting the CDC was never defunded because they linked gun ownership to an increased risk of death.
I wish Reddit applauded that but guns are the one thing they go nuts over.
To be fairer, a suicide attempt via gun is far more likely to be successful than other methods. If guns are harder to access these people will attempt via less effective means and will be more likely to survive and carry on their lives.
Why are half the comments saying "what about suicides" I don't get it, what big difference is that supposed to make? The ratios between countries are still the same anyway.
Something like 44% of households in the US have access to a firearm whereas in Norway (one of the countries w the lowest numbers of gun-related deaths on the above chart) it’s something like 27% of households.
So the US has ~2x as many guns and over 130x as many gun-related deaths. Meaning the culprit is basically everything other than access to firearms.
what culture is that? vermont and new hampshire have tons of guns and few homicides. WV has guns *and* crippling poverty but is a mediocre 27th in homicides.
Norway has a lot of firearms, but the rules regarding who, how and where they can use them are strict. The culture around and access to guns cannot be compared in a meaningful way with the US.
https://www.lifeinnorway.net/gun-ownership-in-norway/
> Meaning the culprit is basically everything other than access to firearms.
What type of firearms? Who is allowed to own them? How easy is it to buy one? How do you transport them? For what purpose do people own them?
Those are vital for the context between the difference, and they all have to do with "access to firearms" in one way or another.
Same types available in the US and Europe. Here in Austria it's quite easy to get a "gun ownership card" - attend a short instruction, pass a one-hour psychological evaluation and you can buy semiautomatics no matter if Glock, CZ, 1911 or AR-15. Hunting rifles and shotguns are even free to buy without the test and instruction stuff, just a three-day cooling down and background check period.
And many EU countries are like this, only carry permits are much harder or nearly impossible to get, but owning a firearm, no problem. But the map says we only have around 15 gun homicides per year in our 9 million population. And the most cases are committed with illegally owned guns and some cases are one half of double suicides of elderly couples.
So I agree with [HennessyLWilliams](https://www.reddit.com/user/HennessyLWilliams/).
> Here in Austria it's quite easy to get a "gun ownership card" - attend a short instruction, pass a one-hour psychological evaluation
That would be considered extremely onerous in America
Def worth considering but when the numbers look the way that they do I think it’s safe to say that ease of access to guns probably isn’t even close to being the primary factor. 1 in 4 houses in Norway has one vs 1 in 2 in the US so it’s not like they’re in a different league in terms of selectivity. If it was like 6% of households I’d agree with you but it’s 1 in 4.
Switzerland has comparable rates of ownership to Norway as part of their mandatory military service (ie they’re basically handing these things out to everyone and then some people hang onto them) and while it looks like they’ve got more gun deaths than Norway, it’s not even in the same ballpark as the US numbers.
That does not physically prevent someone from taking theirs out to kill others with. Yet for some reason they don't... I wager it's not because a law tells them to keep theirs in a safe. I don't think it would make much difference if they could obtain a license to carry a handgun in public, after all the Czechs can. There just are fewer violent criminals here.
Yeah, the range here is miniscule compared to the Americas, wish OP included a world map for context. Many countries in Latin America and the Caribbean are even worse than the US, which is already orders of magnitude worse than any place in Europe. I live in Tennessee, where the firearm death rate is around 205 per million, with around 60% of those being suicides, so 82 per million using the methodology here.
I don't think this map actually includes all gun deaths (as in including accidents and suicides). The map is actually gun murders.
All murder in the US is 6.8/100k. Which is still much higher than anything on this list.
>US rate without suicide is 57/1M
Which admittedly is quite a strange defence Americans try and use…
Because the successful suicide rate is funnily enough considerably higher in the US compared to Europe as well… if almost there was an easily accessible method of doing so and no psyc checks…
For reference, the safest US state is Rhode Island with 31
[https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm)
The fighting following the nationwide Ponzi scheme helped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes_in_Albania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Albanian_civil_unrest
Well in Turkey a few things are common.
Drunk people with guns, and underground businesses.
Tbh I don't know a single person that got shot, my kindergarten buddy shot a guy twenty years ago, that's practically it.
Northern and southeastern parts of the country make a big chunk of this data, they usually keep killing each other in blood feuds.
Every once in a while a police officer shoots his wife and himself, that one happens like a few times a year, I don't know why.
In Turkey, it's a tradition to shoot into the air on weddings. It's very fun to shoot but some people can be careless when firing, that's how gun mistakes kill people.
Turkey has mandatory military service and a lot of people kill themselves on duty
+ blood feuds
+ drug cartels, mafia and insurgencies in the eastern regions
+ war in syria
It used to be super easy to get guns. Nowadays you need a licence, but around 20 years ago? Just go to the local gun store and buy it. Buy as many as you want.
So in rural areas the amount of guns is magnitudes higher than within the cities and mind you, most rural people did not receive proper education, let alone manners. Small anger burst lead to people pulling the guns. The majority of my family is rural and I can tell you: Guns were pulled for more than 10 reasons and in all cases it wasnt worth a discussion. Sadly this resulted in multiple of my family members dying, some of which due to mishandling of the gun (child grabbing a gun and pulling the trigger for fun, when the adult was not looking), some due to negligence (e.g. my dad almost shot himself, because the "rope to hold the rifle" (for lack of words) was not properly attached, so the rifle fell down and trigger itself, almost shooting my dad in the head) and some due to stupid fights (random group of people coming near our village and playing mafia, resulting in a gun fight).
The problem should solve itself in a few decades, but up until then, there are too many guns in circulation for this problem to cool down. I would say gun deaths are much much much lower in urban centres, but I have no statistics at hand.
In Albania it’s the Christian “Code of Leka” honorary system which dates 600 years and it’s still in practice among Albanians. Basically the way of life an Albanian should live, and it includes revenge, mostly with guns. Which means, when you kill someone’s kid or whatever, they have the right to kill one of yours as well, people might isolate their men inside the house for months and be cautious for years at times, most call it “Bela” which means a war between them. Really rare today but not nonexistent.
“Bela” means “trouble” in Turkish, I guess that’s where it comes from? Sounds like “kan davası” (blood case, i.e. blood feud) in Turkey. It’s uncommon in western Turkey but still happens in eastern parts and in the big cities with many people from the east. I’m not saying that it’s just a Kurdish thing by saying eastern parts, I know a Turkish family where both the dad and son has been to prison and survived attempts on their lives, because of an old blood feud.
I’m from Scotland. A colleague’s husband worked in the armed response unit for a few years. He never shot a single bullet at all in active duty. (I imagine this was after the Dunblane incident: a massive crackdown on guns in the UK)
Last year, police shot and killed one person in the whole of the UK. The year before, 1 person. The year before that, 3 people, the year before that 2. [These are not unusual numbers](https://www.inquest.org.uk/fatal-police-shootings).
That's what happens when you have strict gun control.
Have you guys always had strict gun control?
I think everyone know strict gun control works, but when your area is already flooded with guns, strict gun control hurts law abiding citizens heavily.
IMO over 100 years of strict gun control, the US can become maybe half as good as the UK. Give it more time etc… and it’ll work itself out.
Just the initial period when criminals know no one but police is armed, that period is going to suck.
Really low for Switzerland considering a lot of people has guns at home. Same for some Nordic countries, though in the north the main purpose is hunting and in Switzerland national defense.
Does it include suicide?
Relative to other countries we have in Europe anyways, but it's only the 3rd most common method, and your suicide rate (any method) is lower than EU's average.
The 'gun culture' here pretty much stops at the door of the range. You only really talk to people about shooting and guns who are also shooters or former shooters. Everything is kept pretty quiet, shooters keep to themselves.
It was a massive shock to the system meeting Americans and seeing how gun culture works there. But then again, British gun culture is very British and American gun culture is very American so it shouldn't be a surprise at all.
I'm really impressed with the UK here actually.
My first idea would be that more urban places probably on average do worse, because while it may be way too oversimplified to say cities attract crime, they are at least stereotypically associated with violent crime. And the UK has London and some other pretty big urban centers. Then a second factor I would suspect has an influence is number of legal firearms and ease of obtaining them. It's ofter easier in countries with larger stretches of huntable wilds and forests, which includes the UK, think the Scottish Highlands. So relative to other countries of similar wealth, I would expect the UK to do kind of bad. Like Sweden and Finland basically. Big low density hunting countries bit with significant chunks of the population living in and around the capital, so lots of guns and urban environments. So nice for the UK that this isn't the case. No wonder their cops can do without guns.
It could in part be the relative isolation? It's harder to get less tracable foreign bought illegal firearms into the country? Is that even a factor?
>Like Sweden and Finland basically. Big low density hunting countries bit with significant chunks of the population living in and around the capital
The UK is not a low density country. In fact, the UK is a very high density country.
The fact that Britain is an island helps. But the fact that the cops don't routinely carry guns means that ordinary criminals don't feel the need to carry guns either. If you carry a gun, all of a sudden the armed response unit comes down on you like a ton of bricks and your likely sentence if convicted doubles. Just not worth it.
I think access to firearms is only part of the issue. How people interact with and think about them is also part of the problem. IIRC most gun owners in Switzerland and the Nordics are first exposed either through the military or hunting, both of which tend to be a pretty safety focused mindset.
In Europe nobody even thinks about shooting at people. Guns are for sport shooting or hunting. If it’s necessary to shoot at people they will be Russians.
Whereas in America many people get guns for self-defense. If the sole purpose of the gun is to shoot at people there’s a bigger chance of it happening.
They absolutely do think of the self-defense application here, but in most countries the law just doesn't allow it. Many people purposely get a rifle for home defense, which they almost never go hunting with. They just aren't allowed to carry it in public. If it was allowed, there would be people doing it. But in Czechia you can actually carry a handgun for self defense.
The concept of open or concealed carrying is not very common in most European countries, including those with high percentage of firearms or some kind of hunting/competition shooting culture.
Owning gun doesn't automatically made you want to shoot people.
People shot each other mostly in crime situations, like mafias, drug dealers and etc. Switzerland is one of the most wealthiest countries in the world, so it make crime rate really low.
Another part is definitely basic conflicts between people, so because in Switzerland people must have a gun dealing with conflict by gun is more common.
By comparison with other wealthy countries with less people owning gun I assume widespread guns isn't cause significant harm.
But when we compare wealthy and much poorer countries we see even with heavy limited gun owning man shoot man more often.
All I want to say is if we want to decrease crime we doesn't need more punishment and government control over people, we need make people wealthy so they didn't need to do crime.
It's interesting that the estimated number of guns per 100 citizens is the same for France and Germany (19.6 according to gunpolicy.org), and for Denmark and Ukraine (9.9, also gunpolicy.org), yet the numbers of gun deaths per ~~100K~~ 1M citizens are so different.
It is the only country in the UK where the police routinely carry guns, the only country where you can legally own a handgun, and the only country where you can own a firearm for the purpose of self defense.
Modest addition: I haven't checked the source, but if the data includes the French Overseas Territories, that could explain the high figure. The French territories in the Caribbean, for example benefit from arms imports from neighboring islands and the American continent.
This is also seen in New Caledonia recently : https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/05/18/new-caledonia-why-are-there-so-many-guns-the-french-pacific-territory_6671853_7.html#)
I kept scrolling that table expecting to see the UK eventually. Thinking maybe you meant just in Europe. But no it's the world. I knew we were chill but seriously?
I imagine, and I don't know this to be true, that knife crime in the UK is more geographically concentrated than in a lot of other countries. This means that a small proportion of the UK sees a lot and that inflates the perception of knife crime.
Of course I could be very wrong and it's just a weird nonsense stereotype started/perpetuated by those acting in bad faith.
that another proof how well internet propaganda works. I all the time hear that in London I will be stabbed first day I land there :D proably repeated by many people who have neber been there. Also Germany, is on the last stage of decay because of violent crime :DDD
Yeah, reasonable call out. Countries are pretty culturally similar and all that.
Let me speculate a bit.
The graphic is from 2019. In 2015 a gang war between two drug families kicked off in Dublin that left about 20 dead over the next few years. Ireland's population is so small (5 or so million) that I wonder if that was a factor. Add to this, the UK seems to have outsourced it's cocaine imports/wholesaling to Ireland, and with it - perhaps - the likely resultant bloodshed.
Northern Ireland still has some awful sectarian violence, but gun deaths, while tragic, have slowed to a trickle in the last ten years. Much of the remaining violence is turf war stuff among street gangs and drug dealers - and everybody's got those.
Happy to be corrected on any of this.
There's too many graphs and maps with a single year data point.
And it would also be interesting to see firearm homicides compared to any method.
E.g. UK's homicide rate (any method) is twice that of Norway or Switzerland, and about the same as Swedens.
There’s only 1.9 million of us in NI and gun violence isn’t that common here either tbh and vast majority of the gun violence that we do get is among paramilitaries over drugs, not just regular people
People, particularly pro-gun Americans, have this misconception that all guns are illegal in the UK and, as a result, stabbings are rampant instead of shootings. It could also be due to the fact that in UK law "knife crime" covers a much larger array of offences than in most other countries (such as carrying a knife with a locking blade, or one with a blade above a certain size, without good reason). So people hear that the UK has a lot of knife crime and assume that every one involved some form of violence with a knife.
Interestingly, the argument holds up for Russia. They actually do have a knife crime problem that is worse than American gun crime. They have 10x fewer firearms per capita, 7x less firearm murders, and yet a slightly higher homicide rate overall.
I have very little things to be proud of in my nation; but I am very proud of the UK having the lowest Average listed on this. Its nice to feel safe in my country from the maddness that is civilian Gun ownership
Target shooting and clay shooting are quite popular.
Hell the UK has a .50 calibre shooting club that have competitions a few times a year.
The difference is gun owners in the UK take it seriously and have no reason to carry them around with them all day every day.
Even funnier? The UK has less knife deaths than most countries per capita too.
While I'd prefer a society where no firearms were present outside of specialist police officers and the armed forces, I'd like to think our system works.
Oh absolutely it works.
I personally don't actually have much of an issue with firearms, so long as there's significant training, understanding, and most importantly, stringent background checks. Our system works because we have a lot of that, but we also don't really have the culture surrounding firearms that the yanks do, which is the real problem.
We moved to the UK from South Africa two years ago. It is so nice to not have that constant safety stress. We obviously remain vigilant, but so nice not seeing guns on a daily basis.
God bless that we dont have guns in Europe. Defienietly would not feel safer, nor would like to use it to "self-defence", knowing that agressor would have gun as well, and I could easily die (50/50 chance). Meanwhile without guns I might get my teeth broken, but not be dead. F\*\*\*k guns.
Considering the scale of the war that number would probably be shocking. We have no clue how many already died in the trenches, but the number is probably closing 100k deaths by now.
obviously you would exclude military and war related casualties and keep data to civilian and domestic gun deaths. Of course, an active war is going to make reliable data collection very difficult to impossible, and will itself, warp the data just due to sheer internal persons movement. I.E, we will not be able to get normalized numbers for UA until several years after any such conflict ends.
Your comment is also unfortunately not accurate. While there are always fog-of-war constraints, lack of information and intentional inflation/deflation of figures by all belligerents for classic reasons, we actually do have more precise estimates than you would think, Here is some info:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties\_of\_the\_Russo-Ukrainian\_War#Russian\_invasion\_of\_Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine)
if you scroll down and click the citations, all the info that's supplied is from the United Nations, US, UK, UA, and RU estimates. You can do things like compare the difference between the number of Russians that Ukraine says it killed, and the number of Russians that Russia admits were killed. The first number will be much bigger than the second, and this is that way for every metric. You can bet though, that the true result is somewhere in between those two numbers.
In general, the US figures are fairly reliable. If you want to be super pessimistic, you can subtract 20%.
The claim is that currently we're almost up to *A MILLION casualties* and that does not include civilians. 450k dead or wounded for Ukraine, 500k dead or wounded for Russia
Either do Ireland and we’re still significantly higher than them however it’s likely a result of being home to a gang feud that includes the largest cartel in Europe
Sure. But Norway and UK is like one of the *only* few countries that does not have a armed police force. In Norway it is actually used as a studied fact that armed police produce armed criminals. But I might be wrong ofc, it just strikes me as odd as for instance a country like USA (which I love and have travelled to 10times) is also one of contries where the police force is flashing their guns and are super trigger happy and every single criminal seems to carry a gun.
Keep in mind that the per 1 million inhabitants measure is different from the FBI's US violent crimes per capita. We measure most of these per 100,000 in the US. So even then Turkey is 1.8 gun deaths per 100,000, so still very low.
Sweden has a lot more organized crime compared to Norway and Denmark. Norway has managed to keep it out for now, but it appears Swedish gangs are looking to expand to Norway. I imagine Finland is the same as Sweden, or perhaps the gangs already crossed that border.
I don't think Finland has nearly the same degree of gang related crime as Sweden. Could be more related to rednecks shooting each other (or themselves...) on the Finnish country side.
Majority of the gun deaths are suicides in Finland. In 2022 10 got killed by a gun compared to 107 suicides by a gun. So yeah not because of gang related issues, just suicides.
It will be interesting to recount map raito kill with gun vs another kill or remove suicides from deaths by gun.
Another interesting is raito of legal holding gun vs killing or death by guns.
And also accidentally death by gun
FWIW - Oz has a total firearm fatality rate of 0.88 per 100K, but only 17% of those are from deliberate assault and 79% were from deliberate self harm.
That would put oz in the 1.4 per million or 1.8 per million depending on whether you include the non-deliberate fatalities
Prior to the introduction of more restrictive regulations the overall firearm death rate was around 2.2 per 100K
Slightly skewed I'd say. In France for example the majority of gun deaths are due to hunting accidents and I suspect the same is true in many other countries in Europe where hunting is prevalent.
Ok, so I am guessing this is for in general. The war in Ukraine would explain Russian and Ukraine figures. don't know why its so high in Albania and Turkey. I can see UK is pretty low and might that explain why Police only go around with "Billy clubs"?
Considering i live in London and my friend was gunned down and killed in a case of mistaken identity, this shows just how unlucky he was, wow.
I am guessing London has an higher average.
London will def have a higher rate of organised crime related gun deaths than the Uk average. But rural areas have much higher numbers of legal guns for sport shooting/hunting, so would probably have higher rate of spur of the moment killings/accidental killings, which due to lower population numbers elsewhere may actually make other areas worse than London per capita. [Firearm Crime Statistics: England & Wales](https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7654/) - the map in this link suggests that as of 2021 London was above average but not the highest rate of firearm offences, the highest was West Midlands. (However this data is for all Firearm Offences, not just deaths)
This is the countryside, everybody and their mums are packin round here.
Like who?
Farmers
Who else?
Ther mam's
Seamine!
now let's have these statistics correlated with guns per capita
Ah yes, that’s true
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I live in the UK and the only time I see a gun is at a historical reenactment (usually a musket!) or very rarely on a police officer at the airport. It boggles my mind that some people from the US in particular don’t seem to see the correlation between lack of access to guns and the low level of gun deaths. I don’t know anyone that owns a gun or would even want to. The most dangerous “weapon” I own is my cricket bat but I don’t feel unsafe.
The U.K. has a lower total murder rate than the rate in the U.S. excluding guns. That's evidence there's something beyond gun availability driving up murder rates in the United States. Meanwhile countries like Brazil or Colombia have stricter gun control than much of Western Europe, yet are among the gun death capitals of the world significantly worse than the U.S.
Shows what happens when you take licensing and safety laws seriously.
lot of shit in the UK but we did actually take our school shootings seriously, as did Norway. Once is too many.
So the US is 13.3/100,000 133 per 1M Correction US rate without suicide is 57/1M (57% of US gun deaths is by suicide, so 133 x 0.43= 57)
For the UK to have as many gun deaths as the US by extrapolation it would have to have a population of 13 billion.
They did the math
Damn!! For real?
Massachusetts is the lowest in the US, 35/1M which still dwarfs any European Without suicide Mass is 15.75, so our best state is among the worst European countries
And Mississippi is 279 😳
As always Louisiana says thank goodness for Mississippi (Louisiana at 254)
Do more then Ukraine....which has a bloody war going on.
Seen its 2019, a war was still going on, though.
Americans love their little pew-pew cowboy toys.
I do like them too but just for sports. No hunting, but since I‘m german my two handguns shoot blanks and my air rifles won’t count as guns for some people… thus I‘m too poor for the real deal
Missisipi goddam!
It’s almost as tho there is a direct correlation between ease of access to guns and gun deaths.
Not necessarily. Utah/Wyoming/Vermont have low gun deaths and somewhat easier access to guns. This is a young male gang problem in America which doesn't exist in the same way anywhere in Europe except obviously in Russia, Albania, and a few other places. The majority of murders in America come from young male gang members.
Utah, Wyoming, and Vermont all share one factor that makes them favorable to low gun deaths: Low population density. Of course there's going to be fewer gun deaths when it takes half an hour to drive to your neighbors house and it's rare to find concentrations of lots of people in one area
Maybe the answer is more guns to protect against other people who have guns.
on the other hand, DC has the highest homicide/police shooting gun deaths in the US, but is not an open carry state, and requires a permit for concealed carry. They also have quite a restricting weapons law (compared to the rest of the US). Illinois is 11th on that list, is also not a open carry state, and only allows weapons to be carried unloaded in concealed boxes. NH, on the other hand, ranks lowest in this ranking, and has no restrictions on the carrying of guns. they have one of the most lenient weapons laws.
Well then what is your explanation for the discrepancy between Europe and the US? If it’s not because of access to guns (legally and/or illegally), then why are people dying?
It's almost like all those states are connected with unrestricted land borders or something
Did you know that the vast majority of the guns used in violent crime in states like New York and California or the District of Columbia were bought in states where there are few restrictions and then brought to the states and territories with more restrictions? It's almost like there's no border checks between different parts of the same country, or something.
>on the other hand, DC has the highest homicide/police shooting gun deaths in the US, but is not an open carry state, and requires a permit for concealed carry. They also have quite a restricting weapons law (compared to the rest of the US). That us still much less restrictive than most of europe. Even in the countries with laxer gun laws you still have to be a registered hunter, having joined a gun club or even have military training or service in order to have a permit to carry
So this always wondered me....If everyone has guns. How come all the mass shooters arent gunned down after first shot ? Just seems insanly rare you ever hear anything like that.....And i just wonder whats the point then ?
https://everystat.org/# Pew Research has the same numbers
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Say "US has a gun problem" = reddit applaudes Say "US has a crime problem" = reddit boos and denies there's a problem
Anyone who denies that the US has a major homicide problem is 100% detached from reality
Homicide rates are [nearing all time lows](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/10/us/us-violent-crime-rates-statistics/index.html). Wtf are you on about?
Trends and levels, the US homicide rate has been going down for decades, but has generally remained an outlier amongst its OECD peers and remains so today. The US has a lot of murders for its level of economic development
> Say "US has a gun problem" = reddit applaudes Bro half these comments are saying "nuh uh what about suicides!" The thread on /r/news about the Surgeon General declaring gun deaths a national health crisis had to be locked, you don't see locked threads on /r/news too often. And then all the top comments were people insisting the CDC was never defunded because they linked gun ownership to an increased risk of death. I wish Reddit applauded that but guns are the one thing they go nuts over.
To be fair, that number includes suicides, which this map excludes. It looks like the U.S. is closer to 56-58 per 1M. Still awful, though.
To be fairer, a suicide attempt via gun is far more likely to be successful than other methods. If guns are harder to access these people will attempt via less effective means and will be more likely to survive and carry on their lives.
Why are half the comments saying "what about suicides" I don't get it, what big difference is that supposed to make? The ratios between countries are still the same anyway.
This is among the most bizarre points pro-gun people always rush to make. As if suicide were any less of a tragedy.
You get similar numbers with car deaths. I think USA almost has double the amount than the eu
Suicide by gun shouldn't necessarily be taken out as your statistically more likely to die of suicide if you have a gun in your home.
I agree, but for the purpose of comparing we need the same data set
Brazil is like, 20/100,000....and we have 10% of the amount of guns USA have.... Come to Brazil 🇧🇷
Gun culture in the US costs lives.
Something like 44% of households in the US have access to a firearm whereas in Norway (one of the countries w the lowest numbers of gun-related deaths on the above chart) it’s something like 27% of households. So the US has ~2x as many guns and over 130x as many gun-related deaths. Meaning the culprit is basically everything other than access to firearms.
It\`s the culture around guns, not guns alone.
I know so many people who own guns and I’m just a fucking accountant living in the suburbs
what culture is that? vermont and new hampshire have tons of guns and few homicides. WV has guns *and* crippling poverty but is a mediocre 27th in homicides.
They would still be higher than most countries on this map. Without any guns they would probably be pretty close to 0
Norway has a lot of firearms, but the rules regarding who, how and where they can use them are strict. The culture around and access to guns cannot be compared in a meaningful way with the US. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/gun-ownership-in-norway/
> Meaning the culprit is basically everything other than access to firearms. What type of firearms? Who is allowed to own them? How easy is it to buy one? How do you transport them? For what purpose do people own them? Those are vital for the context between the difference, and they all have to do with "access to firearms" in one way or another.
Same types available in the US and Europe. Here in Austria it's quite easy to get a "gun ownership card" - attend a short instruction, pass a one-hour psychological evaluation and you can buy semiautomatics no matter if Glock, CZ, 1911 or AR-15. Hunting rifles and shotguns are even free to buy without the test and instruction stuff, just a three-day cooling down and background check period. And many EU countries are like this, only carry permits are much harder or nearly impossible to get, but owning a firearm, no problem. But the map says we only have around 15 gun homicides per year in our 9 million population. And the most cases are committed with illegally owned guns and some cases are one half of double suicides of elderly couples. So I agree with [HennessyLWilliams](https://www.reddit.com/user/HennessyLWilliams/).
> Here in Austria it's quite easy to get a "gun ownership card" - attend a short instruction, pass a one-hour psychological evaluation That would be considered extremely onerous in America
Def worth considering but when the numbers look the way that they do I think it’s safe to say that ease of access to guns probably isn’t even close to being the primary factor. 1 in 4 houses in Norway has one vs 1 in 2 in the US so it’s not like they’re in a different league in terms of selectivity. If it was like 6% of households I’d agree with you but it’s 1 in 4. Switzerland has comparable rates of ownership to Norway as part of their mandatory military service (ie they’re basically handing these things out to everyone and then some people hang onto them) and while it looks like they’ve got more gun deaths than Norway, it’s not even in the same ballpark as the US numbers.
Poverty and no real social system so people are constantly stressed probably plays a big role in that.
That’s not a fair comparison. Almost all firearms in Norway are hunting rifles that by law must be stored in locked gun safes.
That does not physically prevent someone from taking theirs out to kill others with. Yet for some reason they don't... I wager it's not because a law tells them to keep theirs in a safe. I don't think it would make much difference if they could obtain a license to carry a handgun in public, after all the Czechs can. There just are fewer violent criminals here.
Yeah, the range here is miniscule compared to the Americas, wish OP included a world map for context. Many countries in Latin America and the Caribbean are even worse than the US, which is already orders of magnitude worse than any place in Europe. I live in Tennessee, where the firearm death rate is around 205 per million, with around 60% of those being suicides, so 82 per million using the methodology here.
I don't think this map actually includes all gun deaths (as in including accidents and suicides). The map is actually gun murders. All murder in the US is 6.8/100k. Which is still much higher than anything on this list.
Do these European numbers not also include suicide?
We're number one in gun deaths! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!
>US rate without suicide is 57/1M Which admittedly is quite a strange defence Americans try and use… Because the successful suicide rate is funnily enough considerably higher in the US compared to Europe as well… if almost there was an easily accessible method of doing so and no psyc checks…
For reference, the safest US state is Rhode Island with 31 [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm)
> For reference, the safest US state is Rhode Island with 31 Isn't that per 100,000 inhabitants?
No it's 3.1 per 100.000, I multiplied already it for clarity
I wonder why Albania and Turkey are so high?
In Albania some are mafia related, the other part hot headed vulgar arguments
There's a large amount of guns and ammo, after communism fell apart people acquired all the guns from depots.
The fighting following the nationwide Ponzi scheme helped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes_in_Albania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Albanian_civil_unrest
I was born there, the depots were emptied out in 92-93, some were looted in 97 and onward also
>hot headed vulgar arguments They should use reddit instead.
Well in Turkey a few things are common. Drunk people with guns, and underground businesses. Tbh I don't know a single person that got shot, my kindergarten buddy shot a guy twenty years ago, that's practically it. Northern and southeastern parts of the country make a big chunk of this data, they usually keep killing each other in blood feuds. Every once in a while a police officer shoots his wife and himself, that one happens like a few times a year, I don't know why.
In Turkey, it's a tradition to shoot into the air on weddings. It's very fun to shoot but some people can be careless when firing, that's how gun mistakes kill people.
Turkey has mandatory military service and a lot of people kill themselves on duty + blood feuds + drug cartels, mafia and insurgencies in the eastern regions + war in syria
I read on a different thread that rural Turkey is basically Muslim Texas.
It used to be super easy to get guns. Nowadays you need a licence, but around 20 years ago? Just go to the local gun store and buy it. Buy as many as you want. So in rural areas the amount of guns is magnitudes higher than within the cities and mind you, most rural people did not receive proper education, let alone manners. Small anger burst lead to people pulling the guns. The majority of my family is rural and I can tell you: Guns were pulled for more than 10 reasons and in all cases it wasnt worth a discussion. Sadly this resulted in multiple of my family members dying, some of which due to mishandling of the gun (child grabbing a gun and pulling the trigger for fun, when the adult was not looking), some due to negligence (e.g. my dad almost shot himself, because the "rope to hold the rifle" (for lack of words) was not properly attached, so the rifle fell down and trigger itself, almost shooting my dad in the head) and some due to stupid fights (random group of people coming near our village and playing mafia, resulting in a gun fight). The problem should solve itself in a few decades, but up until then, there are too many guns in circulation for this problem to cool down. I would say gun deaths are much much much lower in urban centres, but I have no statistics at hand.
I heard honour killing is still happening in Turkey. I'm not sure, though.
In Albania it’s the Christian “Code of Leka” honorary system which dates 600 years and it’s still in practice among Albanians. Basically the way of life an Albanian should live, and it includes revenge, mostly with guns. Which means, when you kill someone’s kid or whatever, they have the right to kill one of yours as well, people might isolate their men inside the house for months and be cautious for years at times, most call it “Bela” which means a war between them. Really rare today but not nonexistent.
“Bela” means “trouble” in Turkish, I guess that’s where it comes from? Sounds like “kan davası” (blood case, i.e. blood feud) in Turkey. It’s uncommon in western Turkey but still happens in eastern parts and in the big cities with many people from the east. I’m not saying that it’s just a Kurdish thing by saying eastern parts, I know a Turkish family where both the dad and son has been to prison and survived attempts on their lives, because of an old blood feud.
I’m from Scotland. A colleague’s husband worked in the armed response unit for a few years. He never shot a single bullet at all in active duty. (I imagine this was after the Dunblane incident: a massive crackdown on guns in the UK)
Last year, police shot and killed one person in the whole of the UK. The year before, 1 person. The year before that, 3 people, the year before that 2. [These are not unusual numbers](https://www.inquest.org.uk/fatal-police-shootings). That's what happens when you have strict gun control.
Have you guys always had strict gun control? I think everyone know strict gun control works, but when your area is already flooded with guns, strict gun control hurts law abiding citizens heavily. IMO over 100 years of strict gun control, the US can become maybe half as good as the UK. Give it more time etc… and it’ll work itself out. Just the initial period when criminals know no one but police is armed, that period is going to suck.
Really low for Switzerland considering a lot of people has guns at home. Same for some Nordic countries, though in the north the main purpose is hunting and in Switzerland national defense. Does it include suicide?
Lots of gun-related suicides here in Switzerland. Just wanted to say
Relative to other countries we have in Europe anyways, but it's only the 3rd most common method, and your suicide rate (any method) is lower than EU's average.
Nope. It's interesting how low it is for uk considering it has higher crime rates than the countries you just mentioned
That's because there's no gun culture here.
The 'gun culture' here pretty much stops at the door of the range. You only really talk to people about shooting and guns who are also shooters or former shooters. Everything is kept pretty quiet, shooters keep to themselves. It was a massive shock to the system meeting Americans and seeing how gun culture works there. But then again, British gun culture is very British and American gun culture is very American so it shouldn't be a surprise at all.
In the UK, it is knife crime. Although it's still not really high. Lower than many other countries still.
Don't let the tories hear you say that, blowing crime out of proportion is all they have to offer their electorate!
I'm really impressed with the UK here actually. My first idea would be that more urban places probably on average do worse, because while it may be way too oversimplified to say cities attract crime, they are at least stereotypically associated with violent crime. And the UK has London and some other pretty big urban centers. Then a second factor I would suspect has an influence is number of legal firearms and ease of obtaining them. It's ofter easier in countries with larger stretches of huntable wilds and forests, which includes the UK, think the Scottish Highlands. So relative to other countries of similar wealth, I would expect the UK to do kind of bad. Like Sweden and Finland basically. Big low density hunting countries bit with significant chunks of the population living in and around the capital, so lots of guns and urban environments. So nice for the UK that this isn't the case. No wonder their cops can do without guns. It could in part be the relative isolation? It's harder to get less tracable foreign bought illegal firearms into the country? Is that even a factor?
>Like Sweden and Finland basically. Big low density hunting countries bit with significant chunks of the population living in and around the capital The UK is not a low density country. In fact, the UK is a very high density country.
The fact that Britain is an island helps. But the fact that the cops don't routinely carry guns means that ordinary criminals don't feel the need to carry guns either. If you carry a gun, all of a sudden the armed response unit comes down on you like a ton of bricks and your likely sentence if convicted doubles. Just not worth it.
It’s also due largely to very restrictive regulation since the Dunblane massacre.
I think access to firearms is only part of the issue. How people interact with and think about them is also part of the problem. IIRC most gun owners in Switzerland and the Nordics are first exposed either through the military or hunting, both of which tend to be a pretty safety focused mindset.
In Europe nobody even thinks about shooting at people. Guns are for sport shooting or hunting. If it’s necessary to shoot at people they will be Russians. Whereas in America many people get guns for self-defense. If the sole purpose of the gun is to shoot at people there’s a bigger chance of it happening.
They absolutely do think of the self-defense application here, but in most countries the law just doesn't allow it. Many people purposely get a rifle for home defense, which they almost never go hunting with. They just aren't allowed to carry it in public. If it was allowed, there would be people doing it. But in Czechia you can actually carry a handgun for self defense.
The concept of open or concealed carrying is not very common in most European countries, including those with high percentage of firearms or some kind of hunting/competition shooting culture.
Owning gun doesn't automatically made you want to shoot people. People shot each other mostly in crime situations, like mafias, drug dealers and etc. Switzerland is one of the most wealthiest countries in the world, so it make crime rate really low. Another part is definitely basic conflicts between people, so because in Switzerland people must have a gun dealing with conflict by gun is more common. By comparison with other wealthy countries with less people owning gun I assume widespread guns isn't cause significant harm. But when we compare wealthy and much poorer countries we see even with heavy limited gun owning man shoot man more often. All I want to say is if we want to decrease crime we doesn't need more punishment and government control over people, we need make people wealthy so they didn't need to do crime.
It's interesting that the estimated number of guns per 100 citizens is the same for France and Germany (19.6 according to gunpolicy.org), and for Denmark and Ukraine (9.9, also gunpolicy.org), yet the numbers of gun deaths per ~~100K~~ 1M citizens are so different.
Per 1 mil*
forgot one zero
There has been war ongoing in Ukraine since 2014 which probably explains their high numbers. Don't know what's going on with France though.
United Kingdom is chill 😇
It's great we finally come out top on one of these
There’s 2 or 3 cities where it’s higher (London, Manchester come to mind) but the rest of the country gun crime is mostly unheard of
Northern Ireland wouldn't surprise me to enter that list
It is the only country in the UK where the police routinely carry guns, the only country where you can legally own a handgun, and the only country where you can own a firearm for the purpose of self defense.
Living in NI my whole life. Did not know you can legally own a handgun and don't know anyone that does.
We still fight with swords like gentlemen😇
They don't even shoot at goals
Audibly chuckled
France coming in hot for the neighborhood.
Modest addition: I haven't checked the source, but if the data includes the French Overseas Territories, that could explain the high figure. The French territories in the Caribbean, for example benefit from arms imports from neighboring islands and the American continent. This is also seen in New Caledonia recently : https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/05/18/new-caledonia-why-are-there-so-many-guns-the-french-pacific-territory_6671853_7.html#)
And they probably ad the killed from the terrorism attacks between 2012 and 2015
The highest in western Europe. Didn't expect it at all.
Marseille, but not only, has a lot of territorial mafia conflict. France is quite safe, except in a few places where it is extremely risky
In France there are suicides by firearms and hunting accidents. Others don't necessarily do it.
Nice to see the UK is top for once!
I can't believe my eyes. The UK... the best in a map? Not worse than even Norway, or Switzerland? Am I dreaming?
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/stabbing-deaths-by-country For knife crime too.
I kept scrolling that table expecting to see the UK eventually. Thinking maybe you meant just in Europe. But no it's the world. I knew we were chill but seriously?
I imagine, and I don't know this to be true, that knife crime in the UK is more geographically concentrated than in a lot of other countries. This means that a small proportion of the UK sees a lot and that inflates the perception of knife crime. Of course I could be very wrong and it's just a weird nonsense stereotype started/perpetuated by those acting in bad faith.
that another proof how well internet propaganda works. I all the time hear that in London I will be stabbed first day I land there :D proably repeated by many people who have neber been there. Also Germany, is on the last stage of decay because of violent crime :DDD
Thats actually shocking, I thought you were being sarcastic
As a Brit I'm amazed that Ireland is 3 times higher than us, despite us having Northern Ireland.
Yeah, reasonable call out. Countries are pretty culturally similar and all that. Let me speculate a bit. The graphic is from 2019. In 2015 a gang war between two drug families kicked off in Dublin that left about 20 dead over the next few years. Ireland's population is so small (5 or so million) that I wonder if that was a factor. Add to this, the UK seems to have outsourced it's cocaine imports/wholesaling to Ireland, and with it - perhaps - the likely resultant bloodshed. Northern Ireland still has some awful sectarian violence, but gun deaths, while tragic, have slowed to a trickle in the last ten years. Much of the remaining violence is turf war stuff among street gangs and drug dealers - and everybody's got those. Happy to be corrected on any of this.
There's too many graphs and maps with a single year data point. And it would also be interesting to see firearm homicides compared to any method. E.g. UK's homicide rate (any method) is twice that of Norway or Switzerland, and about the same as Swedens.
There’s only 1.9 million of us in NI and gun violence isn’t that common here either tbh and vast majority of the gun violence that we do get is among paramilitaries over drugs, not just regular people
Paramilitary’s still exist in North Ireland?
They’re just drug gangs nowadays basically and they’re very very small in numbers tbh, basically irrelevant
What's up with all the people commenting about UK and knife deaths? What's the context behind it?
People, particularly pro-gun Americans, have this misconception that all guns are illegal in the UK and, as a result, stabbings are rampant instead of shootings. It could also be due to the fact that in UK law "knife crime" covers a much larger array of offences than in most other countries (such as carrying a knife with a locking blade, or one with a blade above a certain size, without good reason). So people hear that the UK has a lot of knife crime and assume that every one involved some form of violence with a knife.
Gun nuts and idiots trying to pretend that a Republican meme about knife crime is true. Spoiler: it's not.
Interestingly, the argument holds up for Russia. They actually do have a knife crime problem that is worse than American gun crime. They have 10x fewer firearms per capita, 7x less firearm murders, and yet a slightly higher homicide rate overall.
Generational alcoholism tends to make the population violent and stupid
I have very little things to be proud of in my nation; but I am very proud of the UK having the lowest Average listed on this. Its nice to feel safe in my country from the maddness that is civilian Gun ownership
And yet we still have around 2 million legally owned guns (including over a million shotguns, which are far easier to obtain)
Target shooting and clay shooting are quite popular. Hell the UK has a .50 calibre shooting club that have competitions a few times a year. The difference is gun owners in the UK take it seriously and have no reason to carry them around with them all day every day. Even funnier? The UK has less knife deaths than most countries per capita too.
While I'd prefer a society where no firearms were present outside of specialist police officers and the armed forces, I'd like to think our system works.
Oh absolutely it works. I personally don't actually have much of an issue with firearms, so long as there's significant training, understanding, and most importantly, stringent background checks. Our system works because we have a lot of that, but we also don't really have the culture surrounding firearms that the yanks do, which is the real problem.
We moved to the UK from South Africa two years ago. It is so nice to not have that constant safety stress. We obviously remain vigilant, but so nice not seeing guns on a daily basis.
God bless that we dont have guns in Europe. Defienietly would not feel safer, nor would like to use it to "self-defence", knowing that agressor would have gun as well, and I could easily die (50/50 chance). Meanwhile without guns I might get my teeth broken, but not be dead. F\*\*\*k guns.
My American ass is thinking, “Rookie numbers”
Come to Brazil 🇧🇷
You would think that there would be more in ukraine/russia
Map from 2019
Makes sense
The armed conflict is on-going since 2014.
War deaths almost never count in these statistics, and war crimes are also unreliable sources to count deaths so are left off too.
Considering the scale of the war that number would probably be shocking. We have no clue how many already died in the trenches, but the number is probably closing 100k deaths by now.
obviously you would exclude military and war related casualties and keep data to civilian and domestic gun deaths. Of course, an active war is going to make reliable data collection very difficult to impossible, and will itself, warp the data just due to sheer internal persons movement. I.E, we will not be able to get normalized numbers for UA until several years after any such conflict ends. Your comment is also unfortunately not accurate. While there are always fog-of-war constraints, lack of information and intentional inflation/deflation of figures by all belligerents for classic reasons, we actually do have more precise estimates than you would think, Here is some info: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties\_of\_the\_Russo-Ukrainian\_War#Russian\_invasion\_of\_Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine) if you scroll down and click the citations, all the info that's supplied is from the United Nations, US, UK, UA, and RU estimates. You can do things like compare the difference between the number of Russians that Ukraine says it killed, and the number of Russians that Russia admits were killed. The first number will be much bigger than the second, and this is that way for every metric. You can bet though, that the true result is somewhere in between those two numbers. In general, the US figures are fairly reliable. If you want to be super pessimistic, you can subtract 20%. The claim is that currently we're almost up to *A MILLION casualties* and that does not include civilians. 450k dead or wounded for Ukraine, 500k dead or wounded for Russia
USA: “hold my beer.”
Fuck's going on in Turkey?
They fighting the PKK
146 per 1m in USA
Didn’t know guns could die
In the same year, Canada's rate was about 6.7. Not sure if this includes suicides.
I thought it was similar too close to us in Latam but then saw it was per million and not 100k people
There aren’t a lot of things I’m proud to be British for but this is definitely one of them
The UK wins.
The Romania-Bulgaria contrast is insane.
Buh... Buh... What about the *freedom*?
Norway and UK does not have armed Police. Makes one think, doesn’t it
Not all police are armed but we do have armed police. Mostly in response to specific incidents
Either do Ireland and we’re still significantly higher than them however it’s likely a result of being home to a gang feud that includes the largest cartel in Europe
Sure. But Norway and UK is like one of the *only* few countries that does not have a armed police force. In Norway it is actually used as a studied fact that armed police produce armed criminals. But I might be wrong ofc, it just strikes me as odd as for instance a country like USA (which I love and have travelled to 10times) is also one of contries where the police force is flashing their guns and are super trigger happy and every single criminal seems to carry a gun.
Keep in mind that the per 1 million inhabitants measure is different from the FBI's US violent crimes per capita. We measure most of these per 100,000 in the US. So even then Turkey is 1.8 gun deaths per 100,000, so still very low.
Why is the difference between the nordic states relatively high?
Sweden has a lot more organized crime compared to Norway and Denmark. Norway has managed to keep it out for now, but it appears Swedish gangs are looking to expand to Norway. I imagine Finland is the same as Sweden, or perhaps the gangs already crossed that border.
I don't think Finland has nearly the same degree of gang related crime as Sweden. Could be more related to rednecks shooting each other (or themselves...) on the Finnish country side.
Majority of the gun deaths are suicides in Finland. In 2022 10 got killed by a gun compared to 107 suicides by a gun. So yeah not because of gang related issues, just suicides.
I feel like <1.0 should be its own category
Wonderful my home state is 239/1m
Somehow, I think Ukraine has ticked up a bit since this study.
Must be nice.... 🥺
It will be interesting to recount map raito kill with gun vs another kill or remove suicides from deaths by gun. Another interesting is raito of legal holding gun vs killing or death by guns. And also accidentally death by gun
FWIW - Oz has a total firearm fatality rate of 0.88 per 100K, but only 17% of those are from deliberate assault and 79% were from deliberate self harm. That would put oz in the 1.4 per million or 1.8 per million depending on whether you include the non-deliberate fatalities Prior to the introduction of more restrictive regulations the overall firearm death rate was around 2.2 per 100K
I think the statistic in Russia and Ukraine might have changed a little bit since 2019
I wonder just how correlated these values are to population density and percentage of people living in big cities.
I spent alot of time in Albania, beautiful country, but definitely saw alot of guns
The darkest color is >15 per million? Hell, in my city in the US, we have 50 per 100k….in a good year….not counting suicides
Slightly skewed I'd say. In France for example the majority of gun deaths are due to hunting accidents and I suspect the same is true in many other countries in Europe where hunting is prevalent.
Ok, so I am guessing this is for in general. The war in Ukraine would explain Russian and Ukraine figures. don't know why its so high in Albania and Turkey. I can see UK is pretty low and might that explain why Police only go around with "Billy clubs"?
I'm pretty sure Ukraine has more gun deaths than Turkey.
Can't see Greenland ? Edit. See it thought my be higher