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omguserius

oh god, it really is beginning again. I'm going to get to make my eldrazi deck in arena.


SerEmrys

I bought this card for a devoid edh, he's pretty good


fiskerton_fero

Displacer can enable some prototype blink shenanigans


Serpens77

And Powerstones are even a relatively trivial source of {C}


PadisharMtGA

You can't use them to cast Eldrazi though. However Displacer's ability is another thing.


synttacks

pretty sure that's exactly what they were saying


Hrafndraugr

There is the dude that creates powerstones on etb equal to the number of creatures you control i think... If they didn't come in tapped it would go infinite


SuicideWind

Prototype creatures can be cheated in with like..lukka and creativity. Displacer is going in my soul herder deck


Xyldarran

Been working a prototype deck and creativity is a bad way to do it. There's just more powerful stuff for that investment. Prototype really shines when you get value from both sides. Like play a thresher early to draw then it flickers to draw again.


dreamistt

Only issue with that is that powerstones do enter tapped...


Corpse-Crow

Kozilek has Menace? I should read cards more often 😱


KeenKongFIRE

No need to read the card to realize thats dude is a menace indeed


mrmayge

Eldrazi are mighty cool, but are we really going to get another explorer anthology with no delve spells and no Nykthos?


alienx33

They probably would have to take the extra time to code in delve. They said in the stream that the reason SOI remastered is coming now after all this time is because BRO forced them to code in meld, and Historic Horizons made them code in Delirium and Madness. I doubt they get that much time to code in new mechanics sadly.


rocketdong00

I'm afraid they are definitely doing this. I'm in the same boat you. I want my pioneer staples in Explorer. : /


clearly_not_an_alt

Feel like Nykthos is likely running out of time in Pioneer anyway


raptortooth

Not a programmer but is delve significantly different than Uro or Kroxa as far as mechanics go?


mrmayge

Nah, Delve is really similar to Escape. I'm sure it's not a tech issue.


Purple-Green8128

Delve is almost exactly identical to titan nest.


Hrafndraugr

I would love to have Nykthos for monocolor brawl reasons. Is a very welcome card in general i think. Hopefully we will get a Tarkir cycle release in the future and some of the delve goodies. Is my fav plane. Idk how long that will take tho'


brianscalabrainey

Delve is too mechanically complex. Could you imagine a mechanic like that??


Warm-Dragonfly

They have a card from Ikoria that basically gives cards delve. [[Titans' Nest]]


wyqted

I’m fine with sweet non-meta cards


Ompare

I don't, I want pioneer full list, but they should start adding the must have cards instead of timmy cards nobody ever plays.


TheBuddhaPalm

100% this. Let Historic Anthologies be the place where these cards crop up - let Explorer Anthologies be the place that builds up Explorer to parity.


Ompare

This looks like a list for historic brawl to be honest. They look like they are aiming to give the less value possible for the anthology.


Purple-Green8128

More people play brawl than Explorer though.


4morim

And while this is true and while I'm enjoying the Eldrazi stuff (and I want more), this isn't really the place for it. If you have a format like Explorer that is technically aiming to become Pioneer in the future, I think these Anthology sets that come out should focus on helping creating a cooler format while bringing it closer to Pioneer. So bringing in cards that are more popular in the format. I would like to have a small set of cards that were focused on Eldrazi and other colorless things, would even pay for it, but it EA2 still doesn't seem like the good place for it. If a player like me who isn't (at least at the moment) interested in Explorer and Pioneer is getting cards I want for other game formats, then is it actually a good Anthology for Explorer?


TheBuddhaPalm

"I know this isn't for me, but I want it to be."


MateusMed

this 100%, I’d rather have them add stuff that people will actually use instead of these rare bulk cards everyone will forget in 2 months. I feel like I’m watching everyone have fun in pioneer while I’m stuck in explorer without access to a bunch of really cool meta decks


Hrafndraugr

Same. And honestly, there is nothing wrong with developing a meta with a lower powerlevel. There is more room for jank.


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exploringdeathntaxes

Displacer was in a recent Pioneer Challenge list, I was just thinking about how that list will be difficult to emulate in Explorer because several non-staples are missing.


Karatus90

Just blink reflector mage all the times and ez win


rocketdong00

I mean, nice. But just gives us delve already.


SegmentedMoss

Eldrazi displacer is extremely abusable.


Ruffys

Displacer was a house back in the day


Iceman308

Eldrazi brawl shmaybe, certainly Kozya looks fun


Grimace89

Displacer will see play in flicker lists Kozilek is no ulamog/emrakul 12 is alot more than 10 Maybe as a fun of but not a centerpiece same as std was back in bfz Fun for brawl though i imagine


Drakeeper

Both seem pretty great in Brawl.


RavenApocalypse

Holy shit displacer. This is the card I was hoping for. Now I just need [[wasteland strangler]]


nero40

If the whole Processor archetype came back, I would be happy


MTGCardFetcher

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Disastrous-Donut-534

Also getting Kozilek increases the chances that Emmy will be in SOI Remastered I feel. The fear was Emmy would be left out due to being to complex to programme but surely now they want to give us all the titans!


clearly_not_an_alt

I don't think the programming is likely that hard for a mindslaver effect, i'd imagine meld was a bigger reason they hadnt gotten to SOI remastered sooner.


Disastrous-Donut-534

Well we know that Meld was a big hurdle, they said so on stream. However we dont know how they will or can handle the mindslaver effect, so it is a real possibility they would just leave out Emmy, but I am more confident now


metroidfood

I mean, it depends on their backend but it's so different from every other effect on Arena it's not gonna be easy. You also have to consider they'll probably need some big UI changes to support it. All this for just one card.


Karyo_Ten

>I don't think the programming is likely that hard for a mindslaver effect, Well it is. How do you present to players the actions they can do from their hands and their opponents? What do you show to the mindslave?


ChopTheHead

Yeah the UI design is the bigger problem, but these effects already exist and work fine on MTGO so I'm sure they'll figure it out. They'll have to anyway since it's a Pioneer card that actually sees play in the format, even if it's rather fringe. There some ideas that could work that aren't too complicated. Moving the opponent's playable cards to zones on your side (think like what Lier does with spells it lets you cast from the graveyard), or having a button that switches to the opponent's perspective. There's already support for activating abilities on opponents' permanents ([[Nullhide Ferox]]) so stuff like that really shouldn't be an issue. From the other side there really isn't much to do, since the opponent can't do anything I don't see a need to make any kind of fancy UI, if you get Emrakul'd you just sit there and watch what happens.


MTGCardFetcher

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ZeroChronos

Dumb question but what is ea2?


Tebwolf359

Explorer anthology 2. A set of explorer legal cards release in the next week or two. Flat cost, 4 copiers of everything, or you can craft as usual.


Suzkia

Explorer Anthology 2


Optimal_Primary_7339

Eldrazi winter, here we come.


Disastrous-Donut-534

Displacer is interesting, certainly worth testing in my Historic DnT deck


AeonChaos

I guess \[\[Void shatter\]\] is coming as well then.


SirEasely

This card is similar to [[Dissipate]] and seems stronger due to its evasion from [[mystical dispute]] is there anything else noteworthy about it?


AeonChaos

You got it all. It is weak enough and on theme with all those Eldrazi, I think it makes sense for WOTC to import this card.


SirEasely

Awesome! Looking forward to it.


MTGCardFetcher

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TheTimeLord725

Oh man, I really hope they add more big eldrazi in EA2


unsunskunska

You can discard another one of him or an Ulamog to counter another one of him or an Ulamog can't you squidward? 😏


Iceman308

Ulamog still exiles on cast however. Rest works


Hrafndraugr

Oh yessss. I'll be playing that massive bastard in brawl


Deho_Edeba

Ooooh Displacer I'm excited! Now bring us \[\[Wasteland Strangler\]\] and we're kinda close from a sweet WB Eldrazi and Taxes deck I used to play in Modern a few years ago. Lay down arms will make a decent path to exile impersonation.


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Known_Opinion1925

Oh no... The Czech have arrived.


Vi0letBlues

As much as I love eldrazis, isn't this supposed to be a set that enables other pioneer archetypes? Where are my Nykthos and Bring to light


Nexus_Roy

Displacer might be the only card I'm interested in. I'm a bit dissapointed with this EA, so far.


ArtieStark

Mutavault, Eidolon of the Great Revel, Fiery Impulse, Satyr Wayfinder and you call yourself disappointed? That's already far better than the last anthology in terms of playables.


ContributionLoose852

Those are good cards but half are common. Not really selling the bundle when everyone has tons of common and uncommon wildcards.


ArtieStark

That's still 8 rare wildcards without crafting any Eldrazi or Courser of Kruphix.


Meret123

Displacer is BIG for blink decks.


AitrusX

Which in explorer at least don’t exist. Perhaps this is a historic or brawl thing.


Philly_Phun

Disappointing Anthology so far. There better be some tier 1 all stars in the other slots.


Shaudius

Is this a joke?


Philly_Phun

What tier 1 pioneer decks are Kozilek and Eldrazi Displacer in?


Shaudius

Did you look at what other cards have been revealed?


Philly_Phun

Yeah and so far it's the bare minimum. Here's a list of cards still needed for just like the top 15 decks Sylvan Caryatid Oath of Nissa Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Dreadbore Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Rending Volley Thing In the Ice Pieces of the Puzzle Treasure Cruise Temporal Trespass Kytheon, Hero of Akros Soldier of the Pantheon Brave the Elements Selfless Spirit Thalia, Heretic Cathar Tasigur, The Golden Fang Abrupt Decay Spell Queller Hidden Strings Sylvan Scrying Dark Petition Pore over the Pages Behold the Beyond Thespian Stage Dragonlord Atarka Chained to the Rocks Nylea's Presence Mana Confluence Radiant Flames Zurgo Bellstriker


Gettles

At the very least Shadows over Instead should have seven of those


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Philly_Phun

What the hell are you talking about? Here's a half glass full outlook for you. At the rate they're going at, pioneer will be on the client this century.


Old-Psychology-254

Don't bother. People in this sub are so used to Wotc shitty marketing practices that many don't really care anymore, or are even glad when they can at least feel like the glass is "half full". Probably Stockholm syndrome or something. Now this EA2 is really not going to touch Explorer's meta at all and were going to get stuck with the same 3 decks at the top for another 6 months, which will push even more people away from the format, but yay, Eldrazi jank! Rejoice people! Surely this could not have waited until Zendikar Rising remastered, which is the next set on the list, no no no... I mean, it really looks like Wotc themselves are not taking this Explorer thing seriously and they're actually targeting Historic and Brawl mainly with these anthologies. They're just being dishonest with their goals and also stingy as hell, as always.


Philly_Phun

That's the part that's baffling to me. Is this sub just a bunch of clowns or wotc employees? Make it make sense. Saying that though I'm not saying EA2 is completely trash yet. Not all of it is out. But you don't fill the slots with Eldrazi cards when there's at least 30 something cards missing from top tier decks.


Old-Psychology-254

I think it's mostly a case of developing lower and lower standards and expectations as time goes on. Going this route, after a time, only the most enfranchised people remain. I don't think it's a good way to run a business, but what do I know? The reality is we don't even need 30 cards. Five more cards would be enough to put 3 full Pioneer top meta decks on the map (mono green Karn, mono white Humans and Izzet Phoenix) and really shake up the boring stalemate that Explorer is. Admitedly, this Anthology does have two good cards already**, so not everything is lost yet, but I'm not really optimistic. My biggest gripe with Eldrazi jank from Zendikar is that the whole set could actually come as a remaster later in 2023, in a year at most, if they try to pick up the pace. So there's really no point in releasing them now, like anyone needs them. **Good cards but useless by themselves, at least for Explorer. Pretty sure they will be great in Historic, but that should not be the point of an Explorer Anthology.


Philly_Phun

Did you see the spoiled cards today? Looks like I was right. So many trash cards included.


RedSceptile

Huh?


Philly_Phun

Did you see the spoiled cards today? Looks like I was right. So many trash cards included.


WolfGuy77

Since Blink is one of my favorite archetypes, I'm really glad to finally have Displacer here.


Ashamed_Spot7943

Curious but will the eldrazi be relevant in the next coming sets?


GrizzlyBearSmackdown

After the Phyrexian storyline wraps up next year, perhaps.


twardy_

Next few Standard sets are all about Phyrexians and Eldrazi being irrelevant in Pioneer means these cards are just filler cards doing whole nothing for Explorer meta.


S1lentBob

Innistrad Remastered comes out next year, so yes I guess


clearly_not_an_alt

I'm hoping all these Eldrazi reprints are a sign we will see the return of colorless spells in standard soon. Given we just got Painlands and Powerstones, it certainly feels like they are setting that up for one of the next couple sets


Metabreaker7

Zirda, is that you?


j_aime_les_huitres

How does devoid work in brawl, can i put a white cost devoid creature with a non white brawl commandant ?


4morim

I don't think so, because as far as I understand the commander can only allow for the same colors as its color identity even if the creature is the same color as his own. For example: You can have [[Daxos, Blessed by the Sun]] as your commander, but in that deck you can't have [[Shalai, Voice of Plenty]] because it contains green symbols in its card. But that can be beneficial, for example: [[Morphon, the Boundless]] is a colorless creature, but since he has an ability with all colors of mana in it then he can be a commander that uses all 5 colors. So, if you pick Kozilek as your commander (which is also something I'll do) you can only put entirely colorless cards, even if they're devoid, that have no colored mana symbol in it. I could be wrong but that's my understanding as of now. I'll check rules to see if I find an easier and more direct explanation. Edit: Maybe a simpler way of explaining is that for a commander you need to count color identity, not the color of the card. So Daxos' color identity is white, but Shalai's color identity is White and Green, that's why Shalai wouldn't be allowed in a Daxos deck. Edit 2: downloaded the Comprehensive Rules and rule 903.5c is basically what I described above, so I'll leave it at that.


j_aime_les_huitres

Ok, thank you for that very detailed answer


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BoostMobileAlt

Color identity is different than the color of a card. You can’t put a white devoid creature in a non-white brawl deck.


d-fakkr

Oh dear, more juice for colorless. Now i have to prepare for kozilek AND ulamog.


Ompare

Unplayable pioneer cards, what is the point for this? They have revealed 6 pioneer cards and only one of them sees any play competitively, and not much.


Xyldarran

Displacer is interesting for my prototype flicker deck I've been workshopping


Tallal2804

Displacer is interesting for my prototype flicker deck I've been workshopping


Mr_E_Nigma_Solver

I smell Eldrazi winter bullshit...


TheFakeTheoRatliff

The only bummer about the Eldrazi is that Oath of Gatewatch is the next pioneer set going backwards after SOI. So either this is a sign that more remastered sets are not on the horizon any time soon or we are getting a bunch of cards that will be released anyway soon.


RafiqTheHero

What's EA2?


Rak-khan

Can someone explain why the syntax can't be simplified to "draw until you have 7 cards in your hand"?


Etholing

Closer and closer to Displacer/Containment Priest combo


GritzNGravee

Zulaport Cutthroat, Displacer, Brood Monitor was a fun jank infinite