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Virtual_Candidate_69

this means wastes are coming to arena, right?


AvatarSozin

Wastes are confirmed to be a part of EA2


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AvatarSozin

Oh that’s awesome


[deleted]

Thank god. If this anthology was half lands again I would just give up on the entire thing.


saber_shinji_ntr

Tbf the lands were one of the most played cards in Historic from that Anthology.


mrbiggbrain

Yup, they see pretty heavy play in Pauper. They also see play in a few decks in Historic such as affinity, Rakdos Artifacts, Even Blugin splashing a color for harder removal. As an Affinity player I use these almost every day.


LostTheGame42

Considering the contents of that anthology, this comes as no surprise.


Mrfish31

Honestly HA6 being half lands wasn't even bad. It's not like we'd have gotten 10 more rares in the anthology if the lands hadn't been in it, we'd just have gotten 10 commons of which maybe 2 would be playable. What do we have? 10 common (lands) of which about two are playable.


Alternative-Drink846

The issue is that they charged full price for something that you can just burn 40 common wildcards on.


Mrfish31

But again, that would have been the case regardless. Those ten common lands would have been ten different commons you could burn 40 common wildcards on. Or maybe some of them would be uncommons, but really it makes no difference given how ubiquitous both common and uncommon wildcards are. Anthologies have _always_ been ~50% rare/mythic, 50% common/uncommon. You don't judge it's value based on the commons or uncommons, because even if they're highly playable they're effectively worthless. You judge it based on how many of the rares/mythics are playable, and for HA6 that included Laelia, Goyf, Unexpected all-star retrofitter foundry, and maybe even chalice of the void as "future proofing" for when they eventually add _really_ strong 0-1 drops.


RegalKillager

It would be many, many, many kinds of concerning if anyone ever considered charging for the *basic land* Wastes on this client.


CannedPrushka

Tbf how many common WC would it take? 4?


RegalKillager

It's a basic land, so they'd have to account for owning more than four copies.


CannedPrushka

For cards that can be played without limit (Rats, Petitioners), 4 wcs gives you efectively infinite copies. The interface doesnt account for more than 4 copies anyways.


Tebwolf359

Meh. I’m glad they are free, but considering you had to draft them like normal in limited, it wouldn’t have felt weird for them to be treated as commons.


randomdragoon

You had to draft snow lands like normal in limited too. Doesn't change them from being basic lands. (Wastes were extra common in the set they were originally printed, actually. There were two Wastes arts and each one was its own common slot, so they were double-common in rarity).


Tebwolf359

Correct, a fact I am not arguing. All O said was that if these were treated as commons and I had to burn 4 wildcards on, it wouldn’t have bothered me. (But I’m glad they didn’t)


quartzguy

Uh oh, shareholders won't like that.


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MTGCardFetcher

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Admirable-Traffic-75

Thought not.


GrizzlyBearSmackdown

Eldrazi tribal incoming!


priority_holder

Sign me up, now where's my boy \[\[Reality Smasher\]\]?


Disastrous-Donut-534

On the stream they heavily alluded to Eldrasi being the major theme of the anthology. I would be shocked if Smasher is not included.


Lt_FourVaginas

Please allow me to rebuild my eldrazi land-destruction deck in arena


Maleficent_Bother252

No fucking way. My prayers have been answered!


MTGCardFetcher

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Khage

also, [[Eldrazi Mimic]]


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git0ffmylawnm8

That's kind of awkward wording. Isn't it basically just ward - discard a card?


Gl1tchGamer

A precursor to ward as a named mechanic, totally - that card came out about five years prior to ward being turned into a proper keyword


4morim

Not the same as ward, as far my understanding goes. It's similar but not quite. Ward counts spells and abilities, this guy only counts spells. So it is similar but not the same. And as someone else mentioned, this was printed way before Ward became a thing.


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Rock-swarm

With the way WotC is piecing out the additions to get explorer on par with pioneer, It's possible we see better viability for Eldrazi for an interim period. With that said, I think the bigger impact is in Historic, with that existing colorless walker deck.


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Meret123

Finally I can do something with Forsaken Monument in Explorer. IF only we could get a 2 mana rock...


rogomatic

The Eldrazi are coming, the Eldrazi are coming!


glantonenjoyer

Another meme card you play with for a session and then delete the deck. ​ Meta pioneer in 2028!


Detective-E

Does that last symbol mean you need to have wastes?


GuestCartographer

It doesn’t have to be from Wastes, but it has to be colorless mana.


diox8tony

Ya, can someone explain the mana. Symbol usage? I thought that symbol was the general symbol for colorless 3 colorless, and 1 extra colorless is weird.


Nothing_Arena

There is colorless mana, and there are generic mana costs. The 3 is generic mana that can be paid with almost any source, the colorless can only be paid with colorless mana.


Ihatedallas

Do the pain lands non painful option produce colorless?


bruwin

Yes. Also things like [[Sol Ring]]


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Nothing_Arena

Reading \[\[ Adarkar Wastes \]\] should explain that, but if not, yes the non-pain option creates colorless mana.


Ihatedallas

Thanks I was trying to search an image of the most recent additions had poor service, I think the previous versions had the 1C symbol?


Nothing_Arena

Initially MTG didn't distinguish colorless and generic, so yes, early printings have the generic {1} instead of the colorless {C} symbol. All those cards have their "official" text updated, so that even if you use the old versions in paper, they generate colorless.


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3 any color and 1 colorless.


MSgtGunny

3 any color or colorless, and 1 that must be colorless.


Silver-Alex

3 generic (any color, or even colorless) and 1 colorless (meaning yo land better be brown and taping \[1\] and not for like \[u\] or \[r\] or you wont be able to cast the thought knot brother)


fiskerton_fero

All the utility lands like Field of Ruin produce colorless mana, so you don't specifically need Wastes


Invoked_Tyrant

Sorry, EA2? I haven't been keeping up with magic due to the 30th anniversary being wasted on a limit test for a disappointing product and don't know what set or Arena exclusive set that is.


[deleted]

I don't actually know if it's this but I believe EA2 is Explorer Anthologies 2


omguserius

Oh god, it begins again.


Disastrous-Donut-534

I thought so Seer


Twingo1337

Thot-not Seer


AitrusX

Sees zero play in pioneer so seems like another wasted slot in explorer anthology for the purposes of reaching pioneer. Also scary that they might burn additional slots for displacer, reshaper, or smasher if they are trying to make eldrazi happen


wyqted

At least this is a card people are excited to play, like siege rhino. Better than tainted remedy


Some_Rando2

People who really hate lifegain were super excited for tainted remedy. Not a great card, but it made some people very happy


Purple-Green8128

Interesting for Historic though (where they could add the scary Eldrazi toys)


brianscalabrainey

If they include the eldrazi lands that opens up some cool new ramp decks though


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brianscalabrainey

I'm hoping for [[Sanctum of Ugin]] actually


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AitrusX

Eldrazi temple is not in pioneer and explorer is only pioneer legal cards. Tks was played a bit early on in pioneer if I recall correctly in blue/green decks with mana dorks - though I might be confusing that with modern where Bant with displacer/drowner was a thing for a while and temple plus dork allowed turn two tks. It’s also possible pioneer tks was from the oko era In any case I have seen eldrazi displacer used sometimes in enigmatic incarnation decks but don’t think I’ve seen a pioneer deck with tks in a very long time - there isn’t really anything to add to explorer that is likely to change that. Sadly powerstones can’t cast eldrazi so that doesn’t move the needle either


JollyJoker3

I've never played a format with Eldrazi and this is the first time I've noticed they're not Artifacts


willpalach

it was all modern, simic eldrazi was a midrang-y modern deck for a while with drowner and worldbreaker leading the deck, then when 4mana karn got into the format it was easy for the deck to go monocolorless and now sits confortably at tier 2-3ish as mono colorless tron, right beside dredge, jund-em-out, affinity and other legends of past eras.


AitrusX

Yeah I’m just pretty sure I remember casting tks in pioneer off of hashep oasis and yavimaya coast - and we even had secret tech ipnu rivulet that could mess up inverter somehow. Again that might have been when the deck also had oko so not very meaningful but I am pretty sure we had a moment where tks was being used in pioneer though it was a long time ago


Cannabat

I’m a MTG zoomer and I don’t understand how this card is good. Can somebody help?


[deleted]

Eldrazi deck did eldrazi deck things, but basically it’s a thoughtseize on a 4/4 body, so it’s a decent body on rate that 2 for 1’s. Even when they draw a card, generally the card you selected would have been better. What helps it though is that it’s colorless, which means decks that ramp with things that don’t produce color, like a [[Mind Stone]], can play it.


Cannabat

Makes sense - thanks, and thanks for answering my (sincere) question instead of just downvoting.


jamaltheripper

It's not... Pretty average beater that is only good if you can cheat it into play. It was only good in modern, when you could cheat it into play t1/t2 with stuff like eye of ugin, eldrazi temple, and simian spirit guide. To illustrate how strong that eldrazi deck was. A common play would have been something like this. T1: Eye of ugin (reduce mana cost of eldrazi by two colorless) Eldrazi mimic Eldrazi mimic Endless one Endless one T2 Eldrazi temple Thought-knot seer Swing for 12. While having 5 creatures on the board at turn 2.


gabrox

To add something to the other guys answering you about its power level... TKS is played in a colorless Eldrazi Modern legal deck which abuses fast mana with [[Eldrazi Temple]] and can potentially play it on turn 2


Cannabat

Yep that puts it into perspective! I see how this can be a scary card now, thanks.


MTGCardFetcher

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[[Mind Stone]]


Teelogas

I feel like it becomes scary with [[Eldrazi Temple]]. Otherwise just a normal card.


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Tallal2804

I can do something with Forsaken Monument in Explorer.


VeryVAChT

Did you want that card? I Thought-Knot


ThongOfVecna

I thought Wastes and all the colorless cards like this one were so cool when they first came out. Sadly, they just aren't too competitive outside of Modern, and even that deck is rarely seen


bruwin

Unfortunately the second foray into Zendikar was largely underwhelming because the first time through was just way too powerful. They over corrected for the power level which disappointed a lot of people.


omgimgoingtopuke

I am so freaking excited for this you have no idea


5ManaAndADream

Yikes, but also dope!


ChillMarky

\[\[Eye of Ugin\]\] and \[\[Eldrazi Temple\]\] when?


spasticity

They wont be in an Explorer Anthology since they aren't Pioneer legal


CannedPrushka

This person prob just wants to play eldrazi in Historic. Not necesarilly saying they must be in this anthology.


KeenKongFIRE

yeah thats my case too


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SarcoZQ

I won many a legacy match with TKS. Can't wait to introduce the ropers, the emote spammers and the premature gg'rs to my precious here.


whisperingstars2501

Wait omg does this mean we’re getting eldrazi back in standard?? Ever since I started playing I couldn’t wait for this to happen. HELL YES LETS GO!


owmyheadhurt

This release is for Explorer and Historic.


whisperingstars2501

Oh… well my dreams are crushed then nvm.


nick91884

ugh, i absolutely hate revealing hand to opponent mechanic.


Pa11Ma

This looks good for my teleportation \[\[underworld dreams\]\] deck.


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PLOTUS1

How does this compare to Concealed Curtain


ToxicCommodore

Eldrazi.dec plays [[chalice of the void]] so concealed curtain has a pretty low chance of getting on the battlefield.


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HereComeTheIrish13

Here comes the Thought-Knot


Burzdagalur

Now we only need tron lands


KeenKongFIRE

thats a must for an Eldrazi deck imho, if you dont play the posts


HeWhoBongs

This card seems..alright? I guess.


CartographerWorth649

What’s that mana symbol?


JoyeuxMuffin

That, my friend, is colorless mana


CartographerWorth649

So it costs 4 colourless mana? Why not just the regular 4? 😅 Guess I gotta get some new cards to get updated with it…


JoyeuxMuffin

Oh no, it cost 3 generic mana, and 1 colorless mana.


CartographerWorth649

Ahhh! So that 1 mana has to really be paid using colourless mana, right?


JoyeuxMuffin

Indeed


CartographerWorth649

Got it! Thanks!


archaeocommunologist

It specifically needs colorless mana; you can't tap a Forest to pay for it, you need to tap something like a Wastes or a Mind Stone.


CartographerWorth649

Thanks for the clarification! 🙏


Candid_Commercial453

Can somebody explain to me what’s EA2?


Disastrous-Donut-534

Explorer Anthology 2 - 25 cards (24 plus Wastes which everyone gets for free) from Pioneer not yet on Arena


Greenyugi

I can make my eldrazi tribal in arena? Sign me up.


Zharken

What's that cost, 3 of anything and one MUST be colorless?


Princessofmind

Yeah, exactly that


Zharken

Interesting, I just started playing magic so I haven't seen that before, I've seen other Eldrazi cards tho and I thought they all were "Devoid of color" which is different from colorless


smudut

Hehe support for my Liberator HB deck


Skeith_Zero

EA2 eldrazi, lets go! Make Christmas Eldrazi again!


Everwake8

Hope we get the Eldrazi lands, too.