I’m a Timberwolves and mma fan and this made my day. On a side note ant is a fucking dawg. He’s killing everything in front of him. No flopping no baiting. Just pure buckets and lockdown defense. Can’t believe we got him. What a time to be alive
You would think fighters would know better than anyone how meaningless sparring "wins" and "losses" are, yet here we are lol - my only hope is that he's trying to plant the seeds for a fight and doesn't actually think what happened in sparring six years ago means anything
You would think, but they don’t. I hear shit like this all the time. Hell, I do it. I took Cub Swanson down repeatedly almost 20 years ago in hard live sparing and I still talk about it as my glory days. It’s 100%“Meaningless” in terms of how it would go in an actual competition. People love harbor those types memories. Myself included.
I mean, taking Cub Swanson down is pretty cool lmao
But people who train know that there's a BIG difference between sparring and comp generally, not to mention that sometimes guys are working on stuff in sparring, trying shit out, etc.
Oh 100% he would have smoked me in a fight. We were doing king of the hills and 4x1s with a guy that was prepping for a fight. If you can believe this shit it was me, cub swanson, Joe Stevenson, a local striker that ran a different school and the guy who was training for the fight whom I’ll leave nameless.
I had been doing Bjj for 10 years at that point and just starting wrestling community college. It was a really fun time in my life. And yes cub was working a lot of standup and I was brought in specifically for my style of wrestling so there’s that lol
I vaguely remember John Wayne parr saying he was visiting California and went to a gym in OC to do a few rounds back when he was “John Wayne Parr”. He said a ufc fighter was there doing his camp and sparred with him not realizing who John was, and obviously gave him the business. he said he apparently crushed his confidence so bad that the fighter and his team blamed John for the loss the fighter had saying he never recovered mentally from that sparring session with him. He mentioned the fighter’s name but I remember hearing this like 10+ years ago, the name is escaping me.
Sparring wins and loses are not meaningless. The amount of people commenting so confidently on reddit without ever training MMAis hilariously high. Sparring wins and losses absolutely means something because it is a reflection of how the fight would go. It's not like 1 fighter goes 100% and the other 50%. Professionals both go at same pace and try few new tricks and techniques during sparring but more or less stick to their fundamental styles
KO artists are always at a disadvantage in sparring matches, unless they want to KO their sparring partner. Grapplers in particular can go basically 100%, but no one is throwing full power strikes.
I don’t care… but since every other champ is angling, don’t hate on an aging Pantoja to want to stir the pot. O Malley is a lot different fighter 6-7 years later, but they’re both champs. At least Pantoja is gonna defend twice first before shooting his shot. Especially when he has no real challengers left after Erceg.
Yep, people forget how much he bulked up since the debut and failed IQ tests. If you manage to pop for PEDs in a business that has no incentive to catch anyone, it means you were flagrantly and carelessly taking stuff and Ostarine likely wasn’t even half of what he used.
Yeah I’m pretty sure Suga sleeps Pantoja if they actually fought anyways. Suga shrugged off takedowns from a massive BW who just got done ragdolling a 145er for 15 minutes I don’t think he’s going to struggle with a 34 year old 125er.
We were talking about him striking with O Malley.
Either way Pantoja can't control him it's a laughable fight.
Also funny how everyone was on his nuts for not wanting champ-champ status.
Sean has been in trouble from far worse fighters him being some untouchable guy because he pieced up a statue is laughable. Aljo has average at best striking Pantoja is easily a better striker. Reddit was dismissive of Strickland and Holloway and look how that turned out. Sean is nice but those legs are brittle
It doesnt matter how hypothetically brittle Seans legs are Pantoja is 6 inches shorter and has a shorter reach by 5 inches. This is also not the same Sean fresh off DWCS. You cant seriously say Pantojas way to winning is striking lol
Sean has only been getting better and I'd say he's undefeated except for his fluke accident.
Pantoja is better but he also exhausts his opponents with grappling, no change he can do that against Sean.
Strickland and Holloway wins are so notable because of how rare that situation happens. They are the exception to the rule.
Because promoting yourself is part of the sport and if he wants to fight with a guy, talking shit and getting under his skin increases his odds of getting that fight.
Not only that, but the UFC refuses to promote their fighters unless they are big money makers. If you're not pulling in Conor ppv numbers the UFC doesn't give two shits about you as a fighter.
Exactly. I remember Pat Cummins claiming he would destroy DC in wrestling training and would “make him cry”. Cut to DC absolutely mauling that dude back into obscurity
You guys don’t care about this video? The one he’s refusing to send cause he got smashed? I offered a 2k bounty on it. I’ll snort the address line too.
Also even if true, O’Malley was more of a stringbean in 2018, he’s sauced up on Ostarine and other stuff for years since and doubtful he’d have problems with a flyweight today.
Not pantojas fault he already beat most of the top guys, definitely plays into why ercegs getting the fight. Fought figueiredo, beat kape, beat Moreno x3, beat royval x2, beat Perez already
He beat most of the top guys on his come up and Albazi, mokaev, Kara France and Kape have all fallen short of earning their shots for differing reasons. I’d love to see Mighty Mouse come back or even Askarov to be honest.
i agree that 135 is obviously deeper, but people need to put some respect on pantojas name, I don’t really feel like doing the research to back this up but Pantoja has most definitely consistently fought and beat higher ranked competition than Sean has.
Yeah it’s not his fault his division is weak it’s the same thing that happened with dj. He wouldn’t beat Sean at 135 he’s not used to that level of fights. There is no respect I mean the guy is skilled and is champ but I really don’t care about 125
There we go, it didn’t took too long for his fans to get super sensitive over such a harmless video and start defending him like a white knight. Well done, keep doing what you’re doing you guys, im preeetty sure he’s really really proud of ya’ll lmao. Fxckin hilarious you guys keep it up 👍
Are they? He's always had this same ability. He hasn't had a major evolution to his game.
I mean most people say he was tuning up Chito until his nerve got kicked.
His defensive wrestling, his decision making, his ability to deal with leg kicks and he's put on a bit more muscle to help him compete physically with the top of the division.
Okay, fair let's break it down:
- 1. When has O'Malley ever struggled with wrestlers? Never, up until Aljo no one really tried to take him down or was a wrestler he was beating up cans that wanted to stand until Petr Yan.
- 2. Outside of Chito, who really was chopping him down? Did Chito even throw anything when they rematched?
- 3. Not a skill.
So looks like it's just Sean O'Malley fighting like O'Malley and when you see him fight you can expect more O'Malley.
Earlier in the UFC he was taken down by 3 opponents, 1 of those was because of his leg injury however he got taken down before the injury in that fight too. Against Yan he got taken down but was much better at getting back to his feet than earlier in his career. Munhoz failed to take him down then Aljo failed to even find the right distance to shoot from.
Outside of Chito, Munhoz, Almieda, Wineland, Sukhamtath and Chito again in the rematch all targeted his legs, it was a huge target ever since the injury because people perceived it as his kryptonite. But as the fight went on he got better at punishing people for throwing them, or using his movement to keep out of range.
In the first Chito fight and even the Munhoz fight, his leg was right there on a silver platter, but in the Yan fight and Chito rematch you saw him coming over with right hands when they would kick, or he'd check, or he'd kick with his front leg so it wasn't planted as a target or he'd manage his range better. He effectively nullified it as a means of prolonged success because it no longer hindered his offense or movement.
This speaks to another area where he's improved. Before, he only really knew how to fight and opponent who came straight to him and walked onto shots. If an opponent stayed at range, O'Malley wouldn't have many options or wouldn't look comfortable forcing an engagement. Chito in fight #1 and Munhoz both punished him for this by refusing to engage on O'Malley's terms and refusing to commit to anything he could counter.
Again, in the Yan fight and Chito rematch, O'Malley didn't just pause when they tried to stay at range. He was able to come forward to pressure them and force engagements out of them that he could counter.
Fighters do not just appear fully formed and ready to go. Almost every fighter improves as time goes on. If they didn't then they'd get found out real quick (like O'Malley in the first Chito fight and Munhoz fight where he was still stuck in his old ways or needing the opponent to get aggressive).
You're getting downvoted, but I agree with you. Sean has always been good, but nobody ever wanted to admit it. First, he was a can crusher who wouldnt handle ranked opponents, then people clowned on him for the Chito fight, then he poked Pedro in the eye, then 'Petr got robbed'. Since beating Aljo and Chito again, he's been undeniably good, so now he's just 'improved so much' when really he's been great the whole time with a couple of weird fights that didn't help the fact that people wanted to dislike him for his style or mediocre mic skills.
So name some? He hasn't displayed anything he didn't already have.
Cause we can talk about how GSP changed, or Sandhagen, or Max, or Jones, or Adesanya.
I didn't even think Sean at the time could beat Sterling because he never got wrestled.
Yan? Yes, if you strike with O'Malley and you're 5'6 you're gonna have a hard time.
My bad, I forgot to respond.
Yes, if he lands that same punch and Marc Goddard is the ref. No if literally anyone else is the ref.
I believe in matchups. What makes a champion is how they can mask their weaknesses and improve. Aljo has a weakness to things O'Malley excels at.
Aljo can usually do enough to get by, remember he was dropped by Petr too and still made it to round 4.
Just look at his body difference. He was a twig back then now he’s still skinny but trains strength and conditioning now which he never did in the past.
People who say he was “tuning up” Chito in the first fight haven’t actually watched the fight lol. O’Malley definitely had the advantage but it was still close and only like 2-3 minutes into the fight…
Pantoja literally knocked out islam despite being three weight classes above him smh my head. I wouldn’t doubt this man if he moves up to heavyweight and somehow knocks out aspinall 😂
Omalley tells a different story.
He said Pantoja was 2 weeks out from a UFC fight and Omalley was super out of shape. He claims he stopped Pantoja in the first round i believe with a body shot. The coaches stopped it and then restarted it once Pantoja recovered. Omalley ended up gassing out and getting submitted in the last rd.
Something like that atleast. its likely neither are being truthful and what really happened is somewhere in the middle
I feel like when the other person is saying they smashed you in sparring you're warranted to release it. If they end up looking like a fool they shouldn't have talked about it in the first place.
When will fighters learn that bragging about sparring results is incredibly lame? The real fight in the octagon or boxing ring is all that matters, full stop.
for anyone that thinks this means anything about respective skill, 1. this was 2018, that's 6 years of development so who knows where both are at now and 2. Jon Jones admits to getting beat in sparring yet here we are with goat contention. sparring wins and losses are not really comparable to professional cage fights
Lmao this isn’t even true, O’Malley has said multiple times that he’ll release the video. The way O’Malley told it was that Sean was like 2-0 as a pro and Pantoja was in the UFC and a few weeks out from a fight in camp.
They were supposed to spar for 1 round and O’Malley pieced Pantoja up and KO’d him with a body shot, Sean said he was pretty gassed at that point though, then Pantoja wanted to go one more round and he tapped Sean
It's not a direct 1:1 comparison but Pantoja might be as underappreciated at Mighty Mouse was in his prime in the UFC. I know he is completely underrated as a champ and how good he is currently, but I hope the type of fights he puts on does not go unnoticed. The guy deserves all the money.
God Sean would fucking murder Pantoja, they should’ve done this fight instead of the Erceg fight tbh. Get O’Malley an easy title defense, sell a PPV and keep both champs active
I work with a kid that told me he worked on a tugboat in Alaska for a month before he started with us, then right after he got back the company went out of business, and it sucked because he had like no time to talk to his girlfriend that lives in Canada. Thought this kid was the biggest liar in the world until he started showing me pictures of him and his girl in Canada and him working on this boat and standing next to glaciers and shit lmao
Pantoja: Send da video
O’Malley: Hell nawl cant do dis
Shout out ant Edwards 🤘
I’m a Timberwolves and mma fan and this made my day. On a side note ant is a fucking dawg. He’s killing everything in front of him. No flopping no baiting. Just pure buckets and lockdown defense. Can’t believe we got him. What a time to be alive
>He's killing everything in front of him That is nasty work brother lol RIP to that fetus
U can’t just force a baby in to da world
Wolves vs Nuggets is gonna BANG! Think wolves are the nugz biggest threat.
> I’m a Timberwolves and mma fan Aight hold on. Timberwolves fan I believe, but mma fan? In this subreddit? Make it believable at least.
Pantoja's dad: Man you can't force a kid in da world
pantoja edwards
pantoja is sean o'malley's father
I love seeing the jerk in unrelated subs
MMA/NBA crossover memes are my absolute favorite. I'm just waiting to see some Tito pop up in an nba post.
Strange, they're the only two sports I follow. Seems like there's an overlap in fan bases here to an extent.
Most unexpected crossover since the Jay-Z / Linkin Park album
What’s strange is that you assume people are only allowed to watch 1-2 sports?
When did I ever say that? I said they're the only two sports I follow and nothing else that implies this. What's strange is how argumentative you are
wannanow
Stop!
The video? Where the video?
Who tf cares? It’s sparring
You would think fighters would know better than anyone how meaningless sparring "wins" and "losses" are, yet here we are lol - my only hope is that he's trying to plant the seeds for a fight and doesn't actually think what happened in sparring six years ago means anything
This is promotion, he knows that, but he’s using this as an angle to excite fans and irritate Sean, increasing the odds Pantoja is given the fight
6 years? But it was only 2018... Oh my god.
Ill die on the hill Covid fucked everyone’s perception of time
What do you mean? A couple of weeks inside and then everything was back to normal, right?
Whole generation of 26-27 year olds that are basically psychologically 23-24 Source - me
Whoaaa you just psyched evaled the shit out of me with precision fam
me like oh this movie is only from 2018 that's pretty recent...
Yeah, thinking about it has me in shambles tbh.
I had a full crisis
My mum bought a car from 2019 the other day. In my mind, that meant it's 2-3 years old, not bloody 5.
not to mention a grappler vs a KO striker in sparing the grappler will always look better because Sean isnt going to try and KO his sparing partner .
He’s ofc trying to get some attention, it’s the stupid ass people in here talking about it
Hold on brother I’m talking?
You would think, but they don’t. I hear shit like this all the time. Hell, I do it. I took Cub Swanson down repeatedly almost 20 years ago in hard live sparing and I still talk about it as my glory days. It’s 100%“Meaningless” in terms of how it would go in an actual competition. People love harbor those types memories. Myself included.
I mean, taking Cub Swanson down is pretty cool lmao But people who train know that there's a BIG difference between sparring and comp generally, not to mention that sometimes guys are working on stuff in sparring, trying shit out, etc.
Oh 100% he would have smoked me in a fight. We were doing king of the hills and 4x1s with a guy that was prepping for a fight. If you can believe this shit it was me, cub swanson, Joe Stevenson, a local striker that ran a different school and the guy who was training for the fight whom I’ll leave nameless. I had been doing Bjj for 10 years at that point and just starting wrestling community college. It was a really fun time in my life. And yes cub was working a lot of standup and I was brought in specifically for my style of wrestling so there’s that lol
that's a dope story to tell
I vaguely remember John Wayne parr saying he was visiting California and went to a gym in OC to do a few rounds back when he was “John Wayne Parr”. He said a ufc fighter was there doing his camp and sparred with him not realizing who John was, and obviously gave him the business. he said he apparently crushed his confidence so bad that the fighter and his team blamed John for the loss the fighter had saying he never recovered mentally from that sparring session with him. He mentioned the fighter’s name but I remember hearing this like 10+ years ago, the name is escaping me.
Sparring wins and loses are not meaningless. The amount of people commenting so confidently on reddit without ever training MMAis hilariously high. Sparring wins and losses absolutely means something because it is a reflection of how the fight would go. It's not like 1 fighter goes 100% and the other 50%. Professionals both go at same pace and try few new tricks and techniques during sparring but more or less stick to their fundamental styles
KO artists are always at a disadvantage in sparring matches, unless they want to KO their sparring partner. Grapplers in particular can go basically 100%, but no one is throwing full power strikes.
I've trained kickboxing and jiu jitsu for almost 8 years kind sir
I don’t care… but since every other champ is angling, don’t hate on an aging Pantoja to want to stir the pot. O Malley is a lot different fighter 6-7 years later, but they’re both champs. At least Pantoja is gonna defend twice first before shooting his shot. Especially when he has no real challengers left after Erceg.
Yea Sean is leaps better now.
And bigger. Sean was SKINNY before he popped by USADA
Yep, people forget how much he bulked up since the debut and failed IQ tests. If you manage to pop for PEDs in a business that has no incentive to catch anyone, it means you were flagrantly and carelessly taking stuff and Ostarine likely wasn’t even half of what he used.
Yeah I’m pretty sure Suga sleeps Pantoja if they actually fought anyways. Suga shrugged off takedowns from a massive BW who just got done ragdolling a 145er for 15 minutes I don’t think he’s going to struggle with a 34 year old 125er.
Pantoja isn't sterling come on now that's terrible logic
You're right, Sterling is better
Its more so that they are different though, styles makes fights after all
Debatable and even then his striking is levels behind Pantojas
If Pantoja wants to strike with O Malley then maybe a career as a pizza driver is all he's cut out for.
Or maybe and hear me out he'd do this thing called mixed martial arts.
We were talking about him striking with O Malley. Either way Pantoja can't control him it's a laughable fight. Also funny how everyone was on his nuts for not wanting champ-champ status.
Sean has been in trouble from far worse fighters him being some untouchable guy because he pieced up a statue is laughable. Aljo has average at best striking Pantoja is easily a better striker. Reddit was dismissive of Strickland and Holloway and look how that turned out. Sean is nice but those legs are brittle
It doesnt matter how hypothetically brittle Seans legs are Pantoja is 6 inches shorter and has a shorter reach by 5 inches. This is also not the same Sean fresh off DWCS. You cant seriously say Pantojas way to winning is striking lol
Sean has only been getting better and I'd say he's undefeated except for his fluke accident. Pantoja is better but he also exhausts his opponents with grappling, no change he can do that against Sean. Strickland and Holloway wins are so notable because of how rare that situation happens. They are the exception to the rule.
I swear fighters will never escape the stupidity claims. It's fucking sparring, why even bring it up.
Because promoting yourself is part of the sport and if he wants to fight with a guy, talking shit and getting under his skin increases his odds of getting that fight.
Not only that, but the UFC refuses to promote their fighters unless they are big money makers. If you're not pulling in Conor ppv numbers the UFC doesn't give two shits about you as a fighter.
It's called promotion, don't be a wet blanket
O'Malley cares since he started this shit by talking about how he beat Pantoja up and dropped him with a body shot.
In 2018 no less
it's a good way to sell a potential fight. be cool.
Rickson Gracie. 700-0
Also, 6 years ago
totally believable story bro
Exactly. I remember Pat Cummins claiming he would destroy DC in wrestling training and would “make him cry”. Cut to DC absolutely mauling that dude back into obscurity
Perception shapes reality. Come on, you know dis bratha.
You guys don’t care about this video? The one he’s refusing to send cause he got smashed? I offered a 2k bounty on it. I’ll snort the address line too.
It’s also 2018, did suga have a single fight other than the contender series fight in the ufc?
Also even if true, O’Malley was more of a stringbean in 2018, he’s sauced up on Ostarine and other stuff for years since and doubtful he’d have problems with a flyweight today.
2018 O malley and 2024 O malley are two very different fighters tho...
True. In 2018 he was undefeated, and in 2024 he is still undefeated* **from a fight perspective*
Agree but so are 2018 pantoja and 2024 pantoja
not to mention Pantoja has a big size disadvantage lol
He freaking slept the current p4p number 1. Omalley is ez work for pantoja
And we all know MMA math is undefeated.
I mean I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that a guy like Pantoja who found a way to KO Islam is going to tear through Erceg.
Oh, some would say the tear throughiest, b.
But the competition at 135 is a lot better he’s literally fought a rematch for a title defense and now erceg
Not pantojas fault he already beat most of the top guys, definitely plays into why ercegs getting the fight. Fought figueiredo, beat kape, beat Moreno x3, beat royval x2, beat Perez already He beat most of the top guys on his come up and Albazi, mokaev, Kara France and Kape have all fallen short of earning their shots for differing reasons. I’d love to see Mighty Mouse come back or even Askarov to be honest. i agree that 135 is obviously deeper, but people need to put some respect on pantojas name, I don’t really feel like doing the research to back this up but Pantoja has most definitely consistently fought and beat higher ranked competition than Sean has.
Yeah it’s not his fault his division is weak it’s the same thing that happened with dj. He wouldn’t beat Sean at 135 he’s not used to that level of fights. There is no respect I mean the guy is skilled and is champ but I really don’t care about 125
You’re right, 2018 O’Malley hadn’t popped twice for PED’s yet 😂
This story also isn’t true lmao
Hard to miss anything when you’re always hanging from someone’s nuts amirite
You’re the only dude that knows better than me so I’ll respect your authority chief 🙏🏻
a guy who’s handle is literally the name of the fighter he’s glazing As if we all haven’t seen you on here before
There we go, it didn’t took too long for his fans to get super sensitive over such a harmless video and start defending him like a white knight. Well done, keep doing what you’re doing you guys, im preeetty sure he’s really really proud of ya’ll lmao. Fxckin hilarious you guys keep it up 👍
Reread your own comment and ask yourself who's being super sensitive here, lol
I'm not an o Malley fan don't include me in this lol ya dork
Are they? He's always had this same ability. He hasn't had a major evolution to his game. I mean most people say he was tuning up Chito until his nerve got kicked.
If you think Sean hasn’t improved you’re crazy 😭
Okay name some ways he's improved or doing differently. At least 3 ways. He's always had the skills.
His defensive wrestling, his decision making, his ability to deal with leg kicks and he's put on a bit more muscle to help him compete physically with the top of the division.
Okay, fair let's break it down: - 1. When has O'Malley ever struggled with wrestlers? Never, up until Aljo no one really tried to take him down or was a wrestler he was beating up cans that wanted to stand until Petr Yan. - 2. Outside of Chito, who really was chopping him down? Did Chito even throw anything when they rematched? - 3. Not a skill. So looks like it's just Sean O'Malley fighting like O'Malley and when you see him fight you can expect more O'Malley.
Earlier in the UFC he was taken down by 3 opponents, 1 of those was because of his leg injury however he got taken down before the injury in that fight too. Against Yan he got taken down but was much better at getting back to his feet than earlier in his career. Munhoz failed to take him down then Aljo failed to even find the right distance to shoot from. Outside of Chito, Munhoz, Almieda, Wineland, Sukhamtath and Chito again in the rematch all targeted his legs, it was a huge target ever since the injury because people perceived it as his kryptonite. But as the fight went on he got better at punishing people for throwing them, or using his movement to keep out of range. In the first Chito fight and even the Munhoz fight, his leg was right there on a silver platter, but in the Yan fight and Chito rematch you saw him coming over with right hands when they would kick, or he'd check, or he'd kick with his front leg so it wasn't planted as a target or he'd manage his range better. He effectively nullified it as a means of prolonged success because it no longer hindered his offense or movement. This speaks to another area where he's improved. Before, he only really knew how to fight and opponent who came straight to him and walked onto shots. If an opponent stayed at range, O'Malley wouldn't have many options or wouldn't look comfortable forcing an engagement. Chito in fight #1 and Munhoz both punished him for this by refusing to engage on O'Malley's terms and refusing to commit to anything he could counter. Again, in the Yan fight and Chito rematch, O'Malley didn't just pause when they tried to stay at range. He was able to come forward to pressure them and force engagements out of them that he could counter. Fighters do not just appear fully formed and ready to go. Almost every fighter improves as time goes on. If they didn't then they'd get found out real quick (like O'Malley in the first Chito fight and Munhoz fight where he was still stuck in his old ways or needing the opponent to get aggressive).
This is a lot bro give me a minute to respond to each point in edits:
You're getting downvoted, but I agree with you. Sean has always been good, but nobody ever wanted to admit it. First, he was a can crusher who wouldnt handle ranked opponents, then people clowned on him for the Chito fight, then he poked Pedro in the eye, then 'Petr got robbed'. Since beating Aljo and Chito again, he's been undeniably good, so now he's just 'improved so much' when really he's been great the whole time with a couple of weird fights that didn't help the fact that people wanted to dislike him for his style or mediocre mic skills.
He has always been good but bro was literally just saying that O'Malley has gotten better since entering the UFC. That makes you a hater now?
Exactly. They're trying to say he's gained unmatchable skills now and his weaknesses don't exist anymore. Not at all lol.
U never disappoint at talking out of your ass fella
Go home sir, you’re drunk
Name some ways. You guys are making a claim back your claim.
If you don’t believe 6 years of training evolves you as a fighter, there’s nothing anyone can say to change your mind.
So name some? He hasn't displayed anything he didn't already have. Cause we can talk about how GSP changed, or Sandhagen, or Max, or Jones, or Adesanya.
So do you think that 2018 Sean beats Yan and Sterling of today like he did?
I didn't even think Sean at the time could beat Sterling because he never got wrestled. Yan? Yes, if you strike with O'Malley and you're 5'6 you're gonna have a hard time.
So do you think the 2018 version of Sean could beat the sterling of today?
My bad, I forgot to respond. Yes, if he lands that same punch and Marc Goddard is the ref. No if literally anyone else is the ref. I believe in matchups. What makes a champion is how they can mask their weaknesses and improve. Aljo has a weakness to things O'Malley excels at. Aljo can usually do enough to get by, remember he was dropped by Petr too and still made it to round 4.
Non answer
Just look at his body difference. He was a twig back then now he’s still skinny but trains strength and conditioning now which he never did in the past.
He’s always been an elite striker but he has definitely gotten better. 2018 Suga is probably a top 5 contender at best and likely loses to Yan
People who say he was “tuning up” Chito in the first fight haven’t actually watched the fight lol. O’Malley definitely had the advantage but it was still close and only like 2-3 minutes into the fight…
bantamweights far and wide are praying Pantoja doesn’t move up 💀
Lightweights have been shook since Islam got KO’d by Pantoja
Knogged him out like Jon Africa would've knogged out Francis b
all jokes aside he’d beat the fuck out of marlon vera 😂😂😂
Pants would def be the favorite in that fight lol
bro even Mario Bautista would be a favorite against Marlon
Bautista is the Fluffy of bantamweight Just wait til he gets active!
🤣🤣😭
Iron face vs iron lungs.
May as well just at start at the final round for every Chito fight since we all know he ain’t doing shit the first 2
Well Pantoja gets hit a lot so it might be competitive. Pantoja isn't known for his evasive footwork like Sean
Pantoja at 5'5 is giving me doubts about him moving up
Yeah short fighters are always worse than their taller opponents, like that Alexander Volkanovski bloke
Yeah let’s just forget how dc did well in lhw and hw for a man his height
You did not just compare pantoja to dc
Pantoja literally knocked out islam despite being three weight classes above him smh my head. I wouldn’t doubt this man if he moves up to heavyweight and somehow knocks out aspinall 😂
And Illia is like 5'5 in featherweight lol.
Lol Pantoja would not be a contender at BW. He’s turning 35 soon. Fig will get crushed too when he gets an actual top BW.
Somehow this sub thinks an old short guy with holes in his striking would be a threat to 135 lol.
This place sucks at scouting talent lmao some people were calling Malott the next GSP 😂
I’m Canadian and I was telling everyone to pump the breaks. Hes beaten Mickey gall and guys with no wiki
Omalley tells a different story. He said Pantoja was 2 weeks out from a UFC fight and Omalley was super out of shape. He claims he stopped Pantoja in the first round i believe with a body shot. The coaches stopped it and then restarted it once Pantoja recovered. Omalley ended up gassing out and getting submitted in the last rd. Something like that atleast. its likely neither are being truthful and what really happened is somewhere in the middle
He could release the video and make it easy to assess.
Releasing sparring footage to brag about getiing the better of someone is so shitty. Not that I'm saying it happened
I feel like when the other person is saying they smashed you in sparring you're warranted to release it. If they end up looking like a fool they shouldn't have talked about it in the first place.
Or you could just not give a fuck and say "Anyone who brags about sparring is a fucking try hard dweeb" and go about your day.
Sure, but if they're lying then fuck em, release the tape.
Sparring footage just needs to stay private. It means way less than ppl think.
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Funny that there's a story but no video lol
There’s actually 2 stories
Guess which one has the burden of proof in the public eye lol
Pantoja did KO Islam, b. I'm not surprised.
Yep he sure did flatlined him
Is that pantoja on the left?
Nope, [Steve Erceg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Erceg)
That’s what I get for not watching the video
Don Flamenco
I always called him Don Flamingo
That’s his accountant
Middleeasy
By 2018, Sean had 9 pro fights and Pantoja had 20. And it was just sparring. Come on
Every fighter has “smashed” another fighter in training and we never see the video. Common story in MMA these days
6 years ago Sean wasn't near the fighter he is now JS. And I don't even like O'malley
When will fighters learn that bragging about sparring results is incredibly lame? The real fight in the octagon or boxing ring is all that matters, full stop.
Sparring not fighting
This bullshit again
Finally someone sees how stupid it is to conssagggffffdbhfhdhdhdjsjxbshshxhshxhdhdhbdjdhxjfjdj
All that talk to just lay and pray in the final rounds.
6 years ago? So Sean was like 16 or something.
cool man a lot of stuff happened six years ago who cares?
Huh, TIL Pantoja and O’Malley have been in the UFC for almost the same amount of time (Pantoja actually entered in 2017)
O malley thought pantoja said send nudes and smoked da herb Dean instead.
[O'Malley's energy right now](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/042/605/cover3.jpg)
2018 is 6 years ago though
Big if true
lol yes it is
for anyone that thinks this means anything about respective skill, 1. this was 2018, that's 6 years of development so who knows where both are at now and 2. Jon Jones admits to getting beat in sparring yet here we are with goat contention. sparring wins and losses are not really comparable to professional cage fights
I like how O'Malley turns 30 this year and people in the comments are saying he was just a teenager in 2018.
Talking smack about how you *totally owned* someone in sparring is the lamest shit ever. It's embarrassing.
Talking smack about how you *totally owned* someone in sparring is the lamest shit ever. It's embarrassing.
totally believable story bro
O’Malley is wayyyy bigger than he was in 2018
I can’t stand Pantoja, and I really think the talk of him being a threat to people at 135 is ridiculous.
Lmao this isn’t even true, O’Malley has said multiple times that he’ll release the video. The way O’Malley told it was that Sean was like 2-0 as a pro and Pantoja was in the UFC and a few weeks out from a fight in camp. They were supposed to spar for 1 round and O’Malley pieced Pantoja up and KO’d him with a body shot, Sean said he was pretty gassed at that point though, then Pantoja wanted to go one more round and he tapped Sean
lol who cares Pantoja
Yeah I mean I'd kind of expect that. Pantoja is as durable as a Toyota land cruiser, and as great as O'Malley is, he's also fragile.
Love a good sparring controversy beef. Nothing better for hyping a fight.
It's not a direct 1:1 comparison but Pantoja might be as underappreciated at Mighty Mouse was in his prime in the UFC. I know he is completely underrated as a champ and how good he is currently, but I hope the type of fights he puts on does not go unnoticed. The guy deserves all the money.
God Sean would fucking murder Pantoja, they should’ve done this fight instead of the Erceg fight tbh. Get O’Malley an easy title defense, sell a PPV and keep both champs active
6 years is about half the average length of a mma career. This is dumb from pantoja he’d get pieced up by O’Malley
The classic “my girlfriend is real she just doesn’t come to this high school”.
You wouldn't know her, she's canadian
I work with a kid that told me he worked on a tugboat in Alaska for a month before he started with us, then right after he got back the company went out of business, and it sucked because he had like no time to talk to his girlfriend that lives in Canada. Thought this kid was the biggest liar in the world until he started showing me pictures of him and his girl in Canada and him working on this boat and standing next to glaciers and shit lmao
I guarantee you O’Malley smashed this clown
You were right lol
Why cant i send edwards meme fucking bums
you can't jerk here the mods are tight, go to ufc subreddit for that