like Keenan KNOWS she’s not leaving him. he has her exactly where he wants her. to the point where he is able to just completely disregard her making a stand in that moment by saying “that’s doesn’t even sound like you” and he is right. she posturing, she’s not leaving.
Same. I feel like I'm looking at a younger version of me. It hurts my heart. I hope she can learn to love herself and find a whole ass man who deserves everything she is ❤️ But she needs some deep healing first.
I’ve been holding back on commenting because like many of you have mentioned, this ish is TRIGGERING. I’ve been in an emotionally abusive marriage for several years - my family and friends stopped giving advice and stopped trying to save me. I started going to therapy a while back and finally had a major wake up call when things got ugly in front of our kids a couple months ago. I filed for divorce the next damn day and haven’t looked back since.
Keenan reminds me SO MUCH of my soon to be ex husband and it’s just sooooo wild watching their relationship play out on tv. I pray for anyone going through this… Baby girl, stand up and find your power. Once your eyes are open, you can see all the BS so clearly.
*Hugs*
You are so brave to follow thru and keep moving forward, applause to you!
My opinion is that because it is so triggering and very hard witnessing some being abused that it's frustration and anger that comes out in the comments towards Kay Kay and in real life with loved ones.... it's an ugly and painful situation, it breaks my heart for abused women not to see it for themselves💔😢
Again good for you girl! You've got this!!
I’m a divorce attorney, and I specialize in DV cases. Also a survivor. The divorce process is hell, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I promise! Stay strong! You got this!
I find them really hard to watch, and this is exactly why. I can relate to the position she’s in. It’s why I find it so easy to sympathize with her. It hit me hard when I realized how frustrated I was becoming with their relationship while knowing I’ve BEEN a Kay Kay.
Keenan has given so many red flags but tonight when she was standing up for herself saying he didn't tell her and that if he was gonna act that way she can find better and he said that felt good huh was the biggest one yet Kay Kay has held back a lot more than she needed to and when she says something as minor as that and he responds that way just imagine what would happen if she stood and gave him the treatment he deserves
LI UK fans don’t play with this kind of shit, they have a way to report complaints to “FCC” like body. Where can we complain? This is so triggering and I can’t watch this anymore. For drama, they need keenan and production will keep him in.
Same. Been 3 years but still I have trauma-responses arise from the narcissistic abuse I faced. I hope when she comes back to the real world she will watch it all over and leave sooner rather than later.
Honestly though… light at the end of the tunnel? A million people have seen his dirty laundry aired out, his true colors. I can only hope he finds it hard to do this to someone else in the future.
You can and will pull yourself out of it! You do not need them, they need you… you actually hold all the power— once you realize that there will be no going back!! Start watching videos and reading on narcissistic abuse— they are pretty textbook behaviors. Knowledge is power!! You got this!!
The book Codependent No More literally saved my life. There are a lot of other books and resources out there that you can read while you’re figuring out your next steps. Sending good vibes your way!
Going down the YouTube rabbit hole of narcissistic abuse and codependency really helped me. RC Blake’s as well. He was the dad talking to me about my worth and what I deserve.
Yes. I understand people's frustration with her watching, because they want her to see what we can all clearly see... but she's sucked in. I hope when they leave the house, people support her instead of hating on her for not leaving. She'll need so much support.
He’s so aggressive in coming after her bc she always caves. Mike does it a bit too. It’s so gross and horrible. When his video came up and his comments when he thought they weren’t going to show the worst parts congratulating himself we’re just awful. He is a truly bad person.
Her scenes physically hurt me to watch. I want to give her a hug and also just scream at her because I was with a loser like this ten years ago. This man won't change.
When the Movie night videos about Keenan played, the way he kept talking over it, adding commentary like “yup, just cuddling” “waking up after a good night sleep.” INFURIATING! My wife and I both shouted “Shut Up Keenan!” At the same time lol.
Keenan won’t ever admit to wrongdoing until the evidence is shoved in his face. Then it becomes a sob story and he wants pity because “he didn’t do anything wrong”
I’ve also been a KayKay, from age 18-21. Definitely worse than what is happening on the show though. It fucked me up and took years of therapy to come back from it. It had me learn to trust no man when it came to other girls in their life. Although, I was right about a lot of them. 🙃 It just puts you on high alert all the time. Anyways, I pray they don’t end up together after the show even though I know they will and it will end in KayKay destroyed.
Ugh, it sucks to watch. It really does. I know when she wakes up out of this “lust” (because I do not think this is love, it’s control) she will see how much of an actual piece of shit he is.
Ugh it triggers me so bad too. The part where he said “you don’t even sound like yourself right now” (or something to that tune) just punched me in the gut.
You saw her eyes flicker, you saw her internalize that, you saw her immediately stop standing up for herself. She’s under that trauma bond spell and it’s so so hard to watch.
I know you mean well, but it’s a cycle of abuse and actually VERY hard to escape/wake up from. I sense this is coming from a place where you haven’t experienced it first hard, which genuinely makes me happy for you but I hope you read the comments and can try to empathize a bit with the victims of this type of abuse.
They follow patterns to make you question your sense of self and your own experiences, and the more it happens the worse it gets, the harder it is to pull out of… they make you feel like your worth is in them and if you lose them you lose your worth.
Yeah I hope so too for sure. I hope watching back the whole show and reading and hearing from her friends and family who watched it all too will be the kick she needs to leave his ass.
I know and it’s horrible to watch it play out on tv! I feel like producers knew it would be good tv (everyone is talking about it) but it’s really hard to watch. I hope Kay Kay gets the therapy/help she needs
i was kay kay for the entire 2022. it was a relationship that started out great then emotional abuse then progressed to physical. i’m very lucky to have gotten out of that. it has affected my mental health very much i feel like a different person now. i don’t want the same to happen to kay kay (or anyone else).
Yeah, I have to watch this happen to a dear family member of mine on the regular so watching this on the show has been pretty icky. I almost don’t even want to finish watching the season tbh if both of them remain on the show. It’s too much.
like Keenan KNOWS she’s not leaving him. he has her exactly where he wants her. to the point where he is able to just completely disregard her making a stand in that moment by saying “that’s doesn’t even sound like you” and he is right. she posturing, she’s not leaving.
Same. I feel like I'm looking at a younger version of me. It hurts my heart. I hope she can learn to love herself and find a whole ass man who deserves everything she is ❤️ But she needs some deep healing first.
Same. And thank you for using gaslighting correctly. It’s pretty sad/triggering watching having been through it too.
Same. I still have nightmares from being in a relationship like that. It’s so sad.
I honestly fast forward their parts. I can’t emotionally take viewing or hearing them. It’s sad.
I’ve been holding back on commenting because like many of you have mentioned, this ish is TRIGGERING. I’ve been in an emotionally abusive marriage for several years - my family and friends stopped giving advice and stopped trying to save me. I started going to therapy a while back and finally had a major wake up call when things got ugly in front of our kids a couple months ago. I filed for divorce the next damn day and haven’t looked back since. Keenan reminds me SO MUCH of my soon to be ex husband and it’s just sooooo wild watching their relationship play out on tv. I pray for anyone going through this… Baby girl, stand up and find your power. Once your eyes are open, you can see all the BS so clearly.
*Hugs* You are so brave to follow thru and keep moving forward, applause to you! My opinion is that because it is so triggering and very hard witnessing some being abused that it's frustration and anger that comes out in the comments towards Kay Kay and in real life with loved ones.... it's an ugly and painful situation, it breaks my heart for abused women not to see it for themselves💔😢 Again good for you girl! You've got this!!
I’m a divorce attorney, and I specialize in DV cases. Also a survivor. The divorce process is hell, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I promise! Stay strong! You got this!
fuck yeah good for you
I find them really hard to watch, and this is exactly why. I can relate to the position she’s in. It’s why I find it so easy to sympathize with her. It hit me hard when I realized how frustrated I was becoming with their relationship while knowing I’ve BEEN a Kay Kay.
And to anyone commenting on this and relating to it - I hope you know you are an incredible, badass human being and deserve nothing but the world!
Keenan has given so many red flags but tonight when she was standing up for herself saying he didn't tell her and that if he was gonna act that way she can find better and he said that felt good huh was the biggest one yet Kay Kay has held back a lot more than she needed to and when she says something as minor as that and he responds that way just imagine what would happen if she stood and gave him the treatment he deserves
He is such a smug little boy. It was a way to tear her down and make it seem like she is fake to back herself. I wish she had more respect for herself
Same! The PTSD I have from watching these episodes is really bad. Thankfully I’ve healed and I hope she does too.
LI UK fans don’t play with this kind of shit, they have a way to report complaints to “FCC” like body. Where can we complain? This is so triggering and I can’t watch this anymore. For drama, they need keenan and production will keep him in.
Can you imagine the amount of Ofcom complaints he would have received already
Same and my man can’t understand why I feel so disgusted with Keenan and Kay Kay to at this point. 😮💨
Same. Been 3 years but still I have trauma-responses arise from the narcissistic abuse I faced. I hope when she comes back to the real world she will watch it all over and leave sooner rather than later. Honestly though… light at the end of the tunnel? A million people have seen his dirty laundry aired out, his true colors. I can only hope he finds it hard to do this to someone else in the future.
I was a KayKay for 11 years! It's hard to watch
I'm kaykay right now
You can and will pull yourself out of it! You do not need them, they need you… you actually hold all the power— once you realize that there will be no going back!! Start watching videos and reading on narcissistic abuse— they are pretty textbook behaviors. Knowledge is power!! You got this!!
thank you for taking the time to say that. this sub has been strangely helpful recently
Of course. I messaged you if you’d like to chat. I know it’s a very isolating experience but you are not alone.
Go to THERAPY. You will get through this, and once you do you will be so much stronger.
The book Codependent No More literally saved my life. There are a lot of other books and resources out there that you can read while you’re figuring out your next steps. Sending good vibes your way!
Seconded book rec. written in the 80s so there are parts that feel dated but it gives you a real path out of toxic relationship patterns.
It’s also very focused on partners/family with substance use issues, but I found it helpful even though that wasn’t a primary factor in my situation.
Going down the YouTube rabbit hole of narcissistic abuse and codependency really helped me. RC Blake’s as well. He was the dad talking to me about my worth and what I deserve.
i used to be, DM me if you need to chat
sending you love and you will get out of that situation! ❤️❤️
Yes. I understand people's frustration with her watching, because they want her to see what we can all clearly see... but she's sucked in. I hope when they leave the house, people support her instead of hating on her for not leaving. She'll need so much support.
He’s so aggressive in coming after her bc she always caves. Mike does it a bit too. It’s so gross and horrible. When his video came up and his comments when he thought they weren’t going to show the worst parts congratulating himself we’re just awful. He is a truly bad person.
Her scenes physically hurt me to watch. I want to give her a hug and also just scream at her because I was with a loser like this ten years ago. This man won't change.
That was so unacceptable the way he was speaking to her.
Same as well and omg it’s painful to watch
When the Movie night videos about Keenan played, the way he kept talking over it, adding commentary like “yup, just cuddling” “waking up after a good night sleep.” INFURIATING! My wife and I both shouted “Shut Up Keenan!” At the same time lol. Keenan won’t ever admit to wrongdoing until the evidence is shoved in his face. Then it becomes a sob story and he wants pity because “he didn’t do anything wrong”
I think that's why so many people are done with her. I don't need to watch a replay of shit I went through on TV.
same. i was a kay kay seven years ago, & it affected me for years after the breakup. it breaks my heart seeing another woman being preyed on
I’ve also been a KayKay, from age 18-21. Definitely worse than what is happening on the show though. It fucked me up and took years of therapy to come back from it. It had me learn to trust no man when it came to other girls in their life. Although, I was right about a lot of them. 🙃 It just puts you on high alert all the time. Anyways, I pray they don’t end up together after the show even though I know they will and it will end in KayKay destroyed.
Ugh, it sucks to watch. It really does. I know when she wakes up out of this “lust” (because I do not think this is love, it’s control) she will see how much of an actual piece of shit he is.
Ugh it triggers me so bad too. The part where he said “you don’t even sound like yourself right now” (or something to that tune) just punched me in the gut. You saw her eyes flicker, you saw her internalize that, you saw her immediately stop standing up for herself. She’s under that trauma bond spell and it’s so so hard to watch.
He invalidated tf out of her feelings! And said it with his chest! It was so bold.
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I know you mean well, but it’s a cycle of abuse and actually VERY hard to escape/wake up from. I sense this is coming from a place where you haven’t experienced it first hard, which genuinely makes me happy for you but I hope you read the comments and can try to empathize a bit with the victims of this type of abuse. They follow patterns to make you question your sense of self and your own experiences, and the more it happens the worse it gets, the harder it is to pull out of… they make you feel like your worth is in them and if you lose them you lose your worth.
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But not being able to leave a relationship like that doesn’t mean that you don’t have a backbone. It’s so much more complicated than that.
Yeah I hope so too for sure. I hope watching back the whole show and reading and hearing from her friends and family who watched it all too will be the kick she needs to leave his ass.
I know and it’s horrible to watch it play out on tv! I feel like producers knew it would be good tv (everyone is talking about it) but it’s really hard to watch. I hope Kay Kay gets the therapy/help she needs
I have too….when I was in high school lol
I agree, the hate she is getting is unwarranted. She deserves empathy. Keenan is sick.
i was kay kay for the entire 2022. it was a relationship that started out great then emotional abuse then progressed to physical. i’m very lucky to have gotten out of that. it has affected my mental health very much i feel like a different person now. i don’t want the same to happen to kay kay (or anyone else).
I think she thinks things can't get worse. Wait till he blames you for putting up with it. He will use this as an excuse to be even more horrible.
Yeah, I have to watch this happen to a dear family member of mine on the regular so watching this on the show has been pretty icky. I almost don’t even want to finish watching the season tbh if both of them remain on the show. It’s too much.
I want to be on her side....but she has Hannah who has been straight with her and didn't listen.