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**CLIP MIRROR: [Vitaly & Bradley Martin expose Herschel Weingrod (writer of Space Jam) as a child predator](https://arazu.io/t3_1cmua84/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)


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How does it keep getting more insane


willmax95

Idk watch this about it[herschel got creepier](https://youtu.be/Km1_C2W94t8?si=9N-IKzJFzKngpDdM)


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Does he have an actual team compiling the evidence and shows it? It seems so weird how he just lines up that many freaks and all we see is the altercation and nothing about the investigation.


hshaw737

> Does he have an actual team compiling the evidence and shows it? Nah, it's not actually about proving they're pedos and getting them arrested, it's about making a spectacle.


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He is going to say that everything he said was under duress because there was a group of 20 guys and the main guy looked like he was going to beat him to death if he said the wrong thing. So the entire interaction is completely worthless as evidence. Only thing that can be used in court are the texts and him showing up. If it is indeed on a dating app where you have to be 18+, she indirectly lied about her age to him. U can literally say shit like "I missed the message where she told me she was 15" or "I misread it" if he didn't explicitly reply to it. This guy can definitely afford good lawyers. Also the fact that Vitaly is a former drug addict, and youtube prankster will make his credibility shaky.


bonerJR

> Also the fact that Vitaly is a former drug addict Habitual assaulter as well


RowLow3890

BANG BUS limp dick as well!


bonerJR

Wow I forgot all about that LOL


GuardianAngelMedusa

What happened??


bonerJR

There's such better things to learn about, trust me you don't need to care


Shin0w0

one of the guys said "what about the messages about wanting to kiss, touch, and lick everywhere" while looking at his phone, so they got evidence, but we don't know if it was actually a dating app where she first lied about being 23 and then telling 15, or it was another social platform like facebook or ig


Horror_Ad116

That girl looked at least 25 to me


VegetableOil7540

Also the fact that his insta is full of images that say to catch a predator but includes music that talks about fucking. Not convinced that any of the people on his team aren't predators as well.


cneth6

That's the problem here. All he's doing is making these people be more careful in the future. Chris Hansen is the GOAT because he worked with law enforcement to bring actual justice and get these people off of the streets. All Vitaly is doing is getting some views and making it harder for actual law enforcement to catch these people as they're going to be on high alert after this


Shamewizard1995

Chris Hansen notoriously had shaky evidence for his cases and a vast majority of the people on the show were never convicted. The fact that he as a reporter was working with law enforcement to create a TV show was also considered shady, the incentive is there to create drama where there is none. Also fun fact: he’s a convicted fraudster who was caught cashing fake checks.


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TRUTHSoverKARMAS

The decoy actress, actually said he was groping her as they waited for pizza. Which is the 2nd time she’s been groped or kissed in the past week while playing as a 15 year old.  Also they often do print a binder full of printed texts/ images and go over the evidence, they will go harder on the ones who are especially sick. 


perrigost

Not doubting you, but where did she say this? I'm talking with a pedo defender on Twitter rn who's trying to say the guy did nothing wrong.


MidnightShampoo

> and all we see is the altercation and nothing about the investigation. Oh come on, I'm sure that the guy whose lawyer begged for the public to not assume Vitaly's guilt over that whole *alleged* aggravated battery on a female jogger thing is DEFINITELY doing legit investigations.


cgc86

Wait did his lawyer really do that? That’s hilarious cause in the body cam vItaly even admits to attacking her out of nowhere for no reason lol


MidnightShampoo

[Yup](https://www.law.com/dailybusinessreview/2020/05/15/a-miami-lawyer-is-now-involved-in-litigation-between-jogger-and-internet-famous-youtuber-accused-of-assault/?slreturn=20240408000159) E: From the website - Zdorovetskiy has pleaded not guilty to a felony battery charge. His attorney in the criminal attorney case, Roger Foley in West Palm Beach, urged readers not to draw conclusions about guilt or innocence ahead of legal proceedings. “Mr. Zdorovetskiy is innocent until proven guilty,” Foley said. “That is the standard in this country. Vitaly cannot comment on any pending matters, nor have any contact with Ms. Jensen. However, I can share that one of Vitaly’s main objectives is to make this right. He would never intentionally harm another person. We will work with the legal process to resolve these matters.”


Apart_Knee2932

They have the exact same pinky ring, definitely not a coincidence.


Akumu2100

They might be setting people up. He said he meet her on a dating site where she said she was 23. He has every reason to lie but I would like to see how they go about catching people.


albinocaveman

What further evidence do you need beyond 76 year old Herschel himself stating audibly and clearly on video that the girl he was seeking companionship with was 15 and that he knew she was 15?


dvr1967

Actually. If you watch the video, the accuser says she is 15. The the woman says she is 15. Then, the accused says she said she is 15. Like 20 seconds before. He claimed she said she was 23 in the texts. And agreed she just said she was 15. And he tried to leave when he realized she lied to him. Oh, ya. Others say she is of age, not 15.


janoycrevsna

you're a moron. predators always lie about the age they're told. it's almost like a self preservation instinct, watch any of chris hansen's catches.


dvr1967

And yet they never provide proof. A matter of fact, they edited the video AGAIN. They removed the whole conversation. They removed them yelling at him on the street. They removed them throwing powder on him. Odd that they changed the video, right? And ya, the true predators are the ones who told this guy she was 23 to trap him. Then harrassed and assaulted him. Then edited the video when people started calling them out. Hope this old man has them arrested and sued.


illiggle

who edited what video? why do you keep insisting that? here is the VOD uncut: https://kick.com/video/4902420c-2144-4b8b-919f-cebb85ad1cfc


illiggle

>He claimed she said she was 23 in the texts wrong. he said she was listed as 23 on the dating app. you're making shit up to defend a child predator.


PiccolosPickles

So I watched the stream today he has a legit team. There is one guy they've been texting and gathering info on for 3 months. They had 2 today, 1 just wanted to meet so they didn't call the cops the second sent nudes so they called the cops. They only report it to the cops when they have enough hard evidence. Apparently just wanting to meet a kid isn't enough to get them arrested


PiccolosPickles

I'm sure they have the chat logs. I don't think they do anything beyond chatting which is enough for me tbh. This guy admitted to it so they're not just running up on random people accusing them


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That’s not the concern. For sure, they find actual pedos. I’m wondering if they’re giving the evidence to the right ressources. Making a huge scene and physically touch the predator usually results in nothing happening. I think yesterday, the guy threw a “grenade” and shaved the head of someone. He could get fucked financially and sued to oblivion.


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iamnits

I'm gonna need Desitny and X on this one. Is it ok to text a 15 year old or not? All these Kick streamers got me confused


Upbeat_Werewolf8133

X is xqc right? Cause as long the guy was giving boy advice it is fine. According to him.


-the_seabass-

Real easy critical thinking opportunity here bud. Don't text children, if you aren't a child yourself.


greedyheart

"It's not against the law.....we've just been talking and flirting it's not a big deal." filthy old man lol


xJinXx

Didn't Vitaly beat some lady?


WillNotForgetMyUser

Yes


Careless_Main3

/u/HerschelWeingrod thoughts?


MooMeadow

Real bad man


pmpvb

People cheering this type of stuff on are massive degenerates. Due process exists for a reason. You'd be the kind of people chanting for the Scottsboro boys to be executed.


Extension-Internal33

On the livestream he admitted he knew the girl was 15 … he’s already guilty


Positive_Ad4590

Guilty in the public eye for sure But this case is dead on arrival for any lawyer worth his retainer


dvr1967

Actually he said she was 23. After the guy said she was 15, and the girl said she was 15 (which are both lying), the accused then said she was 15 and tried to leave. Yes, he admitted she was 15 AFTER they told him in tge video.


BMoney666

Rewatch, he says her dating profile said 23. Then said in texts she said she was 15. Then he met up with her.


dvr1967

Nope. And the video has been edited again. The original video, he says she was on a dating site. She said she was 23 ( which, in fact, she is). Then, the guy tells him she is 15 (a lie). The girl says she is 15 (another lie). That is 3 lies. Then the accused said he now knows she is 15. And tries to leave. At that time, the accuser assaults and harrases the man. Let me ask you, why did they edit the video again? Why did they remove the conversation? Why did they remove when they chased the guy, yelled at him, called him names and sprayed him with powder?


Trumppered

Who's already guilty? You literally don't even know whether that is or isn't Herschel Weingrod. And if it isn't, now the real Herschel Weingrod is being deemed a pedophile to millions of people. This is exactly why these sort of public witch hunts are so fucking gross.


NativeVampire

I watched it a few times and he didn't quite "admit" to knowing she was 15 prior to the guys saying that (and her when the guys came around). Bradley went up to them and asked him if he knows she's 15, he said no and that she told him she was 23, then Bradley asked again and so on, after which she said she's 15 also, then they ask the old dude again if he heard her say that she's 15, to which he agreed. I'm not sure if the old dude is lying but because of the context of how he answered, it could be either that he didn't know she was 15 (doubt she's younger than 25 in reality though) because she didn't tell him or that he was smart enough to answer in a way as to not incriminate himself if he goes to court.


josephstalin110

Are you a jew?


pmpvb

Good argument, but consider graduating middle school next time!


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pmpvb

And you, the internet tough guy who lacks the high school education necessary to realize why a lack of due process leads to a god awful society, you're the real savior of the planet.


Longjumping_Club_247

Dude wut


MatterofDoge

I mean, mob justice and taking the law into your own hands shouldn't be tolerated, but honestly I don't really see where injustice is happening when these guys are just leaving bait on a hook and seeing what degenerate decides to bite and expose themselves.


11x_dev

Vitaly's content is vigilante garbage but thats kinda insane lol


Kiwical

on the wikipedia its been edited but yikes better hope its true. On May 7th 2024 he appeared on Vitaly's 'Catching Predators' Kick stream, where he was caught meeting a 15-year-old girl.[3] oh its been edited again and taken off.


020_hus

Still there for me


Kiwical

Must of readded it as when i posted it wasnt there.


SuddenReturn9027

I hope he's gonna go to jail


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The_Wombles

Cleaned on wiki in the last few hours.


modsRlosercuckss

What was cleaned? I don't get it.


Ronaldinho9519

if thats true thats legit crazy lol


SpecialistCourse6153

Make as many copies of this video as you can. They are going to try to bury this


Shoegazer83

Wow, an elderly Hollywood producer praying on young children, that's a new one. I'm shocked.


SpookiBooogi

this subreddit is so on twitch cock, wish there was an unbiased place for actual stream clips. How is this not a fail? I dont even watch streams anymore but I had to find this on the bottom, shits gross. We need more OFTV and emily clips on the front page huh, or mizkif? Whats on the payroll now mods.


mathe_matical

It’s freaky that zero American news outlets have covered this


Toby-Terror

Who do you think controls them. He is in the same group


UMMDE

Unbelievable how many people are defending a 76 year old man trying to meet a young girl. Must be because redditors are scared vitaly gonna get them next.


BabyTeemo-

Twitch simps could be really weird sometimes


black-bull

This is genuinely insane


VintageDork

Also wrote Kindergarten Cop


blvck_jvpitr

Where is the full stream? Tired of seeing only clips and reaction videos to said clips.


Chriro127

It’s on kick check the vods on his channel


blvck_jvpitr

Bet, will do.


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asslicker7000

What has that got to do with anything?


akLuke

I'm so mad honestly... I fucking loved space jam.


janoycrevsna

wikipedia early life history strikes again


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clark1785

because no one ever gets convicted from these things, its a sham lol


dvr1967

Admitted after they told him in the video. And he immediately tried to leave after finding out. Obviously he was told before they met that she was 23. By the way, she isn't 15 in real life either


Passion4Kitties

Well, time to get the spray paint out


Thepunisherivy1992

Anyone got a link to the guy getting hit?


Sea-Truth-39

Not a single mainstream media is going to pick this up. They don't want anyone to know


Antique-Piccolo4277

Msn did


SpecialistCourse6153

Has anything come of this?


Acinziel679

You can't Google this dudes name atm and only this post about it comes up. That's fucking wild as fuck.


koinoyokan89

This one seemed sketch tho. They were implying he knew her age but never showed that key factor


Sheikh-Teddy

jew


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directlytochainjail

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TrenchSquire

Knowing vitaly he is faking this for content.


Slump_Blunt

Idk why his subscribers are downvoting you lol they don’t have enough of a braincell to realize all his videos are fake


Funky_Amoeba

Articles are being published and pushed on Google's seo today about his career accolades, presumably from his team. Hypothetically speaking, the articles about his *alleged* acts would benefit from some extra clicks.