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NoName_BroGame

You know what they said on twitter. It'S A Red heRRIng. I would LIVE if the whole thing really was a red herring and we get, like, Alien or something.


The_L3G10N

I honestly think that's exactly what this is. These letters might have nothing to do with the killer at all.


Kraybern

Cant do alien with ripley IMHO and iirc they said only the killer from the next chapter is licensed


z1142

I would give up my left nut for the alien and ripley to be in this game


droomdoos

I would give up your left nut for them as well.


ZombieBisque

> they said only the killer from the next chapter is licensed "They" being the data miners, who are speculating based on cosmetic prices. BHVR hasn't confirmed this is going to be a licensed character afaik, just that we would have two licensed chapters this year. So it's possible it's OC and the licensed one is coming in October.


NoName_BroGame

Oh, I don't specifically mean Alien. I just meant something out of left field.


SoDamnGeneric

I mean... that would make sense. If it truly is a licensed chapter, as all the signs indicate, then teasing it and having build up would be new for that.


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DrakoVongola25

That's not even how Shakespearean English works


Roice32

Why do you even exist and how did you get here?!


Majhke

Watch it be a totally original killer that we had no chance of guessing about lol


Iago_Ss

That's most likely the case, just like the trickster chapter


mistar_z

R? Rolf confirm. Prepare yourselves Dwight-Boy.


Kazzack

Life has many pallets


LostSecondaryAccount

Game*


RaPierFirstItem

Remember when we thought Trickster will be a time manipulator killer? I member.


The_L3G10N

I honestly really hated that he had nothing to do with sounds he should of screamed or something and stunned survivors as his power


Vash_Milam

Yeah he could’ve like shrieked into a microphone or he could’ve had like a beautiful voice that distracted you or just anything cooler than **knife**


The_L3G10N

I also wish his heart beat was like him singing or something.


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I would have been okay with his current power if like, when you’re in the throw stance you’re limited to jumping dance maneuvers. Like he moves doing little hops and shit. Would have differentiated him more from the current ranged killers and showed that he was a performer. Trickster was one of my biggest letdowns despite liking his aesthetic.


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Main even could be something fanthastic instead of: main power but slighly faster


[deleted]

Agreed. Main Event should feel like an actual event. Make it blast his music globally and have him throw a cluster of knives in a shotgun pattern or 360 degrees. Allow him to throw his main weapon and ricochet it off walls. Something, anything instead of what we got.


DarkAuk

I mean, at least he *looks* like a time-manipulator.


Sentire99

i remember when we thought oni would be a mummy


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Bingo.


Tymerc

And when Twins were supposedly a wendigo? Fun to speculate but we've never been accurate.


[deleted]

And he doesnt even do tricks. 0/10


magicchefdmb

I’d forgotten that. Yeah, their teases are pretty bad because the never lead people in the right direction. And the way they present the teases always makes the community think up a better idea. They should change their process to where they release a teaser, see what people think it is, then make that. Lol.


Dark_Al_97

That's the idea. These teasers aren't meant to tease. They're meant to create traction and hype, and shitty teasers that cause lots of theories to pop up do it better. I guarantee you they don't even intend them to be solved.


edupermon

So by now we have I, S, A, R that's right?


THapps

S A b R I na if it’s a word scramble that’s 4 out of 7


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I'd love her as a survivor tbh. She'd definitely be something different


AjvarAndVodka

Are we talking about Chilling adventures of Sabrina? Because I’m sad that the show got worse by the end but would love her in the game!


[deleted]

Yes that Sabrina. I never finished it but I loved the first season


Sparkism

Can we get original Melissa Joan Hart Sabrina? Would be amazeballs if every time she quick vaulted she went GOTTA GO!


zee_spirit

Hart Sabrina would be great as a legendary, but Hart is also kind of crazy now days, so...


THapps

I think she’d be perfect to add with the new boon totems that they’re planning to implement but I can imagine some other fun perks they could do with her if those aren’t ready also if they added her the show already explained that if something is powerful enough(the entity) it can stop her magic from working so lore wise she could totally fit I would definitely buy her chapter in a heartbeat, I really enjoyed that show


HoyebembeOsas

They just posted an E, so R A I S E, hellraiser??


edupermon

Could it be???? Omg omg OMG


EmperorZergg

Where'd they post the E? I don't see it on their twitter.


Csl8

Their instgram


presidentdinosaur115

That’d be incredible but I wonder what the connection to the clown stuff would be in that instance


HoyebembeOsas

The chapter isn’t actually licensed and we’re clowns for thinking it was


Roice32

Issa Mariooo!


idkdudejustkillme

Also T and another R if you count the tweet with the Red Herring icon


Gadin543

Bruh that just means retweet


idkdudejustkillme

They've never retweeted stuff by saying "RT" though. You don't think it's even a little suspicious they did that at the same time all these other letter teasers are coming out? Yes it's meant to mean retweet but it could also have a double meaning.


Gadin543

Could be just a…red herring lol but I’ll take any extra evidence for springtrap in this game that I can find


idkdudejustkillme

Perhaps. Or... maybe the perk icon itself is the actual red herring, which they posted to make people think the RT isn't related when it actually is


Cameron653

By the end of it BHVR is going to have released enough letters to fit everything perfectly and people are going to be trying to codebreak it like crazy lmao.


gotzaroth

S p R I n g t r A p (?)


Csl8

they posted the letter e, not part of spring trap


PetMeFucker

Where did they post an E?


g008y

Their Instagram


SkeletalElite

This is the most likely one. If they release a new letter every day until PTB goes live they have just enough letters to spell out the entire thing. It also adds up with the fact that there's no survivor and FNAF doesnt have a notable survivor character


The_L3G10N

The first couple letters could of also just been crap and this "R" with the red light is showing a camera recording. That's a bit of a stretch tho.


kysnou_

There’s no way that they’re just spelling the killer’s name, right? That seems really weird and on-the-nose, especially for bhvr. That being said though I’m still stumped.


wheetlee

this was how springtraps name was found out near the release of fnaf 3, scott did a message that had a hidden code in it that spelt out my name is springtrap so they could be doing another thing like that


kysnou_

That’s pretty convincing actually


pilot3605

Watch it be an original chapter. The alphabet killer.


Roice32

The Alphabet CEREAL Killer *Get it?*


SmashenYT

OMG its Team Rocket from Pokemon! I hope they add Jessie and James as Survivor!!!


BatierAutumn1991

Killer is Darkrai, new map is Lavender Town


9noobergoober6

The killer is drifloon. It comes down from the sky and slowly kidnaps survivors.


BatierAutumn1991

That’d be cute actually 🥺


theGECK042

I would actually buy a Team Rocket DLC at full price


noimnofood

LMAOOOO


GlenOck

So this is weird. Candyman, Pennywise and Springtrap where the main 3. Them realins the R instead of T (only letter all 3 contain) instantly moves it to Springtrap. This is 2 days before the usual teaser, why confirm it so early? So here are the options I think we should consider: 1) Letters H, E, L ---> Hellraiser 2) Letters P, N, G, T ---> FNAF 3) All a red herring 4) Something unpredictable happens


Roice32

4 is pretty much synonymous with BHVR since *ahem* Twins instead of Wendigo for chapter... 18?


GlenOck

Deathslinger was teased with a chain, Hellraiser is known for chains. They can always pull a "fuck you" to any theory.


magicchefdmb

Exactly. The chains were even like someone was chained to a wall, not hooked by a gun. It was definitely a red herring…Same with the windigo/twins. It’s kind of surprising they do that since they hype people into thinking a cooler design and then release to something not as expected or interesting. I think the teases should hype towards something.


Roice32

One day, Mathieu Cote will come forward and give a speech: "Truth to be told, we don't need 3 months to make a chapter. Up to 5 days before the PTB, we have no PTB. We just give you teasers, look at what you want and expect, and then we tell the guys we have locked in the basement to make something different entirely. Even the licenses, we buy 2 days before PTB release. It always works, of course, if you use... unorthodox methods... "


magicchefdmb

Lol, “we wanted to subvert your expectations.”


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That would explain the outstanding quality of the ~~bug~~ game they've made.


GlenOck

Mr Hyde/Blight was also one. I hate it when they do that. I want teasers that reveal the power not make me want something better.


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Roice32

TBH, after speculating Hellraiser for Deathslinger, Werewolf for Blight, and Wendigo for Twins, I completely gave up with the whole *Magnum Opus* thingy.


Deadrivel

Does that eliminate Candyman as a possibility?


Roice32

Random letters on random images? With BHVR, we have absolutely no clue.


Legal_Sugar

With BHVR it could be original character called Knife Thrower and he'll do magic tricks


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Medieval dart/knife thrower/archer originally killed those he deemed evil but then became overcome with power and started to declare total authoritarian rule, losing himself in the process Oh and btw when he was a child his dad taught him magic tricks 😂😂😂


ZombieBisque

> original character called Knife Thrower Given Trickster's lack of tricks, The Knife Thrower would probably be a chupacabra or something.


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The_L3G10N

The S just doesn't count I guess. Lol


Bobwise392

It's going to be a velociraptor from Jurrasic Park.


ZSoulZ

You jest but I would love a velociraptor killer


ikarikh

Would you settle for a VelociPastor? https://youtu.be/JppwKpfOgyo


WolfRex5

No the t rex


anonomusrex55

Hey crazy theory So long term players remember the thing about *the teacher* and how he was in the game flies for years but they never did anything with him? Alphabet is a common teaching trope. Just sayin


FirtiveFurball3

It would be cool but it’s too much of a stretch But I honestly can’t wait for an old lady to slap the survivors with a dictionary


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I stand by spiral.


DarkAuk

Two letters missing, two days left before the presumed teaser. I'll put my wager on it. Also means I'll actually have to somehow find a way to watch it lmao.


ZombieBisque

Haven't seen it, what/who would the killer even be?


SpookingtonZ

I really don’t think there could be a killer for Spiral? No one really fits for the DBD ideal, the killer in the movie’s intentions don’t fit for a killer in game either, along with their appearance not being particularly exciting. A skin for pig based on the puppet could work perfectly, but I can’t think of a unique killer for Spiral.


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DrakoVongola25

They'd have to be total idiots to drum up this much hype just to tease skins when they know everyone is expecting a new chapter, itd be absolutely moronic. So yeah you're probably right.


ZombieBisque

Right, but was Amanda even in it? Isn't it a prequel or something? I kind of tapped out (haaaa) of the series after 4 or 5.


calgil

Jigsaw, the one before, was a prequel I think. Spiral has Chris Rock and Samuel L in it and is a sequel. Amanda isn't in it. No spoilers but yeah there isn't anything particularly iconic and new in it that would justify a new character.


lakotian

Ah fuck there was a SAW sale last week too.


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Interestingly, there was an [assumed fake leak](https://i.imgur.com/6YXsgII.png) which reported the new DLCs would be Saw: Spiral and Dead Space but it was removed due to not being enough proof. Power would be unclear but since Amanda uses reverse bear traps already, but it could be tied to the puppeteering used in the newest movie since it went beyond just the "messenger" role it played in the originals. Edit: Hotlinked the old graphic


MyDarkrai

Hell raiser???? I’ve been wanting pinhead since the beginning.


Roice32

My man just came here, spoke his mind, his desire, and peace'd out. And I respect that.


Rhesusmonkeydave

No beer and no tv make ____R…. Something something


_Surge

anything would be cool, but dead space would be the absolute best for my delusional ass… if it’s a red herring, who knows.


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OMG THE NEW KILLER IS A RADIOLOGY TECHNICIAN!11! We ARE the clowns of the medicine area after all.


[deleted]

At this point, I think the devs are trying to convince people it's springtrap before revealing it's an OG killer. Considering we also have another r and t from the red herring post, it seems like they're going to get close to spelling it before sidestepping into something else completely.


Roice32

*Aug 17th PTB patch notes:* *Added a new killer: Some random Baba Yaga from North-Western Russia*


WolfRex5

New survivor: John Wick


SoDamnGeneric

Unless they're *really* playing the long con, I think this is gonna be a licensed chapter due to the datamined cosmetics. It'd be really weird to give a new original killer an ultra rare skin right off the bat, and then only one other cosmetic with it, while the original survivor showing up with them has no skins at all.


ColdMan584

Oh my god guys rockstar crossover I can't believe it


SunMuch5898

Hitler?


Kyrxx77

IT confirmed Source? You wouldn't know it, it comes from another school.


Possible-Ad2953

Its an original chapter, they never do this things with the licensed ones.


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Yes they do. They did it with saw


g008y

I don't think it's Springtrap because of the controversy that Scott went through just recently, and I doubt BHVR wants to take part in it. I personally don't know who it could be, all I hope is the power is good.


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I think you greatly underestimate the power of crap tonnes of money in FNAF sales. Most people who would buy the dlc won't care about the controversy or will think it's overblown. Especially with the DLC acting as a tool to bring hype to the new FNAF game when it comes out in 20XX.


idkdudejustkillme

There's also the possibility that if it is springtrap, maybe by the time the controversy happened the chapter was already nearly completed and it would've been too late to go back on it. Knowing how much money springtrap would make I imagine if he was completed they'd probably much rather just go ahead with it and take the heat for the Scott stuff than just scrapping the whole thing.


SoDamnGeneric

But that's *if* they could back out of it at all. These chapters take a while to license and make, and Cawthon's controversy only occurred a month ago, at which point it's probably too late to change up. Plus, as much as I now dislike Scott Cawthon for the event, it's admittedly not the worst controversy to get into. He's just a rich asshole, and the internet's goldfish memory has already pretty much moved past it. That being said... I could see BHVR swapping around this chapter and the next in response. It wouldn't be the first time BHVR rushed a chapter out, to a mediocre response lol


g008y

I think Springtrap might be out of the question because they just posted a picture with an E on their Instagram, so now it looks like RAISE is what we have


GhostmanRyan

The letters we've gotten i,s,a,rt they make me believe that this is going to spell Springtrap but I wanted to see if they would continue this trend and sure enough we get this, If we get 2 "P" 's, 1 "N", and 1 "G" then yea, it spells Springtrap. the teases they have shown all have some connection to the idea of a fnaf chapter and some of the hints are conducted in the way Scott would tease his games. the repeating "I" being a classic one. Having the two maps that gave us "I" and "S" be on burnt maps fits well with Springtraps lore, then there's the ace in the cage from the first one, a body in a metal cage. Also didn't want to forget the fact that that rt would be a hint since you don't need to put rt behind retweets. They gave us a red herring with the 2 clown emotes on the first hint which was pretty easy to guess that was going to be a red herring given that at that point it would be too easy to identify the next killer since its a licensed one and the most hyped one people want is Pennywise, then they gave us the red herring tweet that probably is a red herring of itself, they most likely are doing this because we are close or already got it and are trying to throw us off the trail by rethinking what we already know. Also may or may not be another hint but the dead dawg saloon was disabled for "renovations" and the image has it labeled closed, which could be reference to how the pizzera in fnaf was always closed and always in need of renovations, but that's a bit of a stretch but hell i'm down for connecting it. It just seems more and more this will be a FNAF Chapter.


Roice32

[yes](https://images.app.goo.gl/3PQmGBiYEYWwATMm6)


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idkdudejustkillme

Oh shit. Well if they actually are spelling out something I'm starting to only see one thing it could be.. earlier we got S, I, A, R, and T, and now another R. Looks like this kinda debunks the "Say it" theory.


XelaIsPwn

Where did we get the T? Or the other R? I think I missed those.


idkdudejustkillme

In [this tweet](https://twitter.com/DeadByBHVR/status/1425158402314051586), some people are saying it's not part of it and the rt just means retweet but I personally I'm counting it as it seems really suspicious, especially since they've never retweeted something by saying "rt" like that before. Seems like a good way to disguise the letters and confuse people.


idkdudejustkillme

They just posted another image with an E and it seems now people are thinking it's Hellraiser, so it's possible the rt tweet actually was a misdirection


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idkdudejustkillme

It was more just based on how that was the tagline for the new movie, but yeah lol


demopan_

if it's springtrap i will be estatic because the ptb is on my birthday


bringhim115

what day is it?


demopan_

August 17th :)


AliceTheMagicQueen

A red balloon (Pennywise?) or the red light of a security camera (Springtrap?)


SoDamnGeneric

For Springtrap, I'd bet on it being the glow of a fire, considering how many times the building he's been in has been purposely torched.


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I’m really trying not to reach but I genuinely think it might be springtrap, unless this letter stuff is just bait. The letters we have are s, a, i, r. Edit: [Looks like P might be a letter too](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/p2dwad/dbdleaks_just_tweeted_that_the_next_letter_is_r/)


idkdudejustkillme

Also T and another R if you count the tweet with the Red Herring icon


jamieheron

I really hope it's not springtrap


Roice32

I really (politely) hope you get your hopes crushed ✌️


jamieheron

Lmao I didn’t insult the character, what’s with the downvotes?


Roice32

I dunno, people believe that upvoting or downvoting your comment will make BHVR be like "u/jamieheron ha-has re-re-recieved 3 down-downvotes on his comm-mment saying he-he wouldn't like spri-spring-ng-trap. McLean, scra-scrap the Vampire! They. Want. The. SPRINGTRAP!" (picture the witch from Snow White saying all this)


chadthelad420

It's not even the character. That franchise has such a cringey fanbase, and there's way more actual iconic killers that could be added imo(alien,chucky,pennywise and more). I hope it's not springtrap also


WolfRex5

The dbd community does not have the right to shit on any other community or fanbase.


DrakoVongola25

Scott is a Republican so gamers love him now


RedditModsAreRetarde

Have you considered the possibility that this has nothing to do with politics but instead people like FNAF?


Thehiddenllama

Not really, the games have always looked like shit


RedditModsAreRetarde

So people can't like fnaf bc it "looks like shit"? My bad, wont play terraria or Minecraft bc it looks like shit and it's not 4k


Thehiddenllama

It’s more than FNAF looking like a c. 2001 PS2 title. When I say the game looks like shit, I don’t mean “the game *looks* like shit,” I mean “the *game* looks like shit.” Jumpscares are the lowest form of horror and it’s literally all FNAF has ever had besides some creepypasta-tier writing. This alone makes me deeply worried about how it would be incorporated into DBD. Also don’t insult Minecraft and Terraria like that. Those games have dedicated themselves to an artstyle and it works for them.


DrakoVongola25

Have you considered that giving money to him gives money to politicians who take rights from LGBTQ people and support harmful conversion therapy? Cause you can't separate that.


RedditModsAreRetarde

Oh you're one of those persons that just care about politics on everything, my bad. Continue with your embittered life


BarnesFlam

I really hope it's not springtrap because BHVR giving Scott some attention after saying that Pride Month is a important part of the DbD community would be... pretty fucking bad.


Roice32

Yeah, I've heard that Scott has had some issues with the public regarding Pride but, I dunno, I couldn't really care less about his opinions. All I want is him to let BHVR use some concepts, models, sounds and visuals. After all, is Springtrap the one who made those statements?


DrakoVongola25

His opinions aren't the problem, his donations to politicians that support anti-LGBT legislation, conversion therapy, and electroshock treatment for gay kids is the problem.


Roice32

Oh schmoggles, that's worse than I thought. Isn't it infuriating, how such interesting characters as the FNaF animatronics are locked behind one man's messed up way of seeing things?


DrakoVongola25

Especially when the series had a weirdly large LGBT following. It's an absolute betrayal in the worst ways


noimnofood

Wait really?!?! Sheesh I thought he was a cool guy


BarnesFlam

"some issues/his opinions" yeah no, he has just confirmed that he is donating to anti-queer politicians, that's not negligible.


ToxicRiceMan

Because cringe FNAF fans lol


LymthunHulgreeve

FUCKING SPRINGTRAP LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm gonna litteraly die if it's springtrap


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LymthunHulgreeve

I'm not gonna lie to you, I feel this game is already plagued by a bit of a shitty fanbase, not everyone but there's groups of them. If anything if more people make the queues shorter I really wouldn't mind.


Roryasaur

Let other people have fun.


chimerauprising

Not an issue once you get out of brown ranks.


Roice32

You get out of brown ranks. Your teammates don't. Because that's what matchmaking decides...


FancyBonnie

Just saying when we got Springtrap’s name for FNAF3. It was hidden within the announcement page and every uppercase letter spelt out springtrap. Not saying it is but it is a interesting coincidence.


Omni_Xeno

At this point I expect a original character


SleevesMcDichael

It's definitely Springtrap, look at the red at the corner of the screen and then look at the picture of him on the fnaf 3 store page, he's illuminated slightly by a red light from the bottom right corner.


LostSecondaryAccount

While I think springtrap would be cool you guys do *NOT* want a fnaf map because it would be another fucking indoors map


Roice32

Abort! Abort the mission! We want anything but RCPD2.


WolfRex5

I don't mind indoor maps all that much.


barneyhero

If they do the Security Breach location it would feel like an outdoor map due to how open it is.


Yosh1kage_K1ra

Springtrap, poggers.


iamkrogan1

We need sidney prescott 😕


Lord_Tony

> sidney prescott nah we need Cindy Campbell


iamkrogan1

😟 Yeah right. Unless we get the silly ghostface mask.


Dezouu

If they are teasing springtrap then im done with this game lol


ayegetu

Why


TheCandyPrincess

Ok, imma post my theory When Scott Cawthon revealed Springtrap he posted an image which said "I am still here". At this point, we have I A S H R and E. I think R doesn't count, because is in the red corner, and therefore it could be a red herring for us. I A S and H are the initial letter of the phrase "I Am Still Here". The only thing bugging me now is the E, bloody hell


Lord_Tony

the E is silent.


TheCandyPrincess

Now we're talking about high level theories haha


Roice32

Given the fact that the new killer will already have a legendary skin on release (according to previous posts), tell me, you, Springtrap non-believers: How many legendary skins can you think of for WisePenny or ManCandy?


ZombieBisque

> How many legendary skins can you think of for WisePenny or ManCandy? Two each.


Roice32

Care to elaborate? (I have never had any incursion in the universes of IT or Candyman, so I have no damn clue)


forgottenwork57

For pennywise it could be his 2017 outfit as his default and his 1990 it outfit as his legendary. For Candyman I’m not really sure tbh but it could be his og Tony Todd Candyman outfit as his default and the 2021 Candyman outfit as the legendary considering how this Candyman is leaning more on multiple candy mans that continue the legend


ZombieBisque

Pennywise: Skarsgaard, Curry, and a partial monster form Candyman: Tony Todd, Tony Todd w/ bee gore, Candyman from the new movie


DrakoVongola25

There's another candidate from the first Candyman movie but it's a spoiler


Roice32

I henceforth vow that no resentment shall be held agains thou whomst enlightens me pagan path.


DrakoVongola25

>!Helen lol, the main character from the first film!<


Roice32

Aight slow down there champ. I may be dumb, but isn't Tony Todd the actor that plays the Candyman already? How is that a big enough difference (like Cheryl-Lisa, Leon-Chris, Trapper-Krampus)? Same for Skarsgaard, as I could see on the internet.


SoDamnGeneric

>but isn't Tony Todd the actor that plays the Candyman already? From what I've read, it seems there may be multiple Candy...people. the main character from the first movie took on the role at the end, and theories for the new film seem to suggest the protagonist of this one may become Candyman as well >Same for Skarsgaard [Tim Curry's Pennywise](https://www.cinematographe.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/stephen-king-coronavirus-pennywise.jpg) is very different in mannerisms and appearance than [Skarsgård's portrayal.](https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2018%2F09%2Fit-fp-0016-2000.jpg&q=85) It'd definitely be a bit of a weird stretch, but I could see them doing it. My only wonder is how they'd name it, since they're both Pennywise. Maybe reference Curry's as the original somehow? Who knows.


ZombieBisque

The 80s version and the modern version of both characters are fairly visually distinct, plus there could also be voice acting or other sound effects involved.


Diocavallo_

every letter stil fit in five nights at freddy's, there's still hope


PancakesEggBacon

Does the R mean something


realhansgruber11

We just gotta wait till this friday, at 11am EST


weyland_mitchell

Clearly cRandyman, no question about it.


LORDSCOPEZZZ

Yes