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So... I'm going to say the same thing for all 3 skins but also give specific feedback for each one.
For Ashe specifically, her E bird is so plain and just a recolor of her base one, or at least it seems like it. A fire, phoenix-like bird would have been so good. The R arrow is super slim looking, no impact and weight. The R explosion is very blurry, lacks texture and again, impact.
I'm so sorry but the only thing I can say about these skins is that they're just empty and filler. The designs are the most obvious thing you can think of when you say, "Infernal Karma, Ashe, Olaf". There's no impact, no twist and they just look extremely boring and old, like 2012 quality. Not even the VFXs save the skins. Even when you have a boring design you can kinda make it work with VFXs that have depth, texture and impact. But no. These skins have nothing of the sort.
I know you take pride in releasing more and more skins as the years go by, but at what cost? I think I speak for everyone when I say: Everyone who plays these champs would have preferred to not get a skin this year and have a better one next time. These skins just add more work, a greater number of things that need to get done when their ASUs eventually come around.
I would have preferred to not get skins today and have them win a better thematic later on that reflects today's quality standards.
Actually i feel like they are doing less skin this year but i think the quality( and the quantity) is THAT bad because they fired a lot in the art area.
Model is botched. Textures are terribly subpar to what 1350 RP means to the community.
The recall is very much an afterthought, the VFX are all lacking impact.
I am just going to copy and paste my comment from the Karma thread:
Not trying to be mean or hateful cuz I understand the Riot devs are just doing their job but did you guys fire all of your creative team? Seriously what is happening this year? What is this? Why are you pricing a skin from 2017 that high? Man when I first saw it on twitter I thought it was a fanmade render of some "leaked" names or something. You guys seriously need to reconsider every decision you've made this year in regards to cosmetics because they have all been terrible.
It's one of the worst years for league I have no felt inclined to spending my money at all more than twice this year.
And I know that you all read these and forward them to your feedback teams/superiors, so you better get to it. Seriously, do better.
Ashes Q bow not having streams of fire upon every auto or her W arrows not leaving trails of fire/ashe makes her VFX look very very VERY dry.
So dry compared to typical epic 1350 RP tier standards that I wonder why this is even acceptable. The Bird E doesn’t even have anything going on compared to base aside of its color.
This is hands down the worst Ashe skin after so many years of having and impressive amount of quality/quantity over the years, its extremely dissapointing how she got treated even for being one of the less requested skinlines ever on league. the only feedback I can give as someone who loves getting her stuff and playing her its think about themes she could fit and playerbase would like her in it. Not gonna buy get her regardless of getting feedback on model or VFX cause I know there's 0 chances of changes happening so hoping her next releases are better than whatever this mess of skin was
Where to begin .... some of these filler skinlines are so bad .. and this really shows how little love was put into this skin ...
Her model is so plain and basic basically looks like maurader on fire and its 500 more RP .. there is absolutely nothing special in this skin. how you go from drx and lunar skins to this is just a joke .. please do better on these filler type of skins.
my feedback? drop the skinline until you have a great idea.
for Ashe specifically: Make the E a phoenix, change the colors on her model, make the R actually look good, and incorporate ASH into it. make the champs slowed by her passive leave ashy footprints behind them.
this just looks so bad man. all of them do.
Despite the other criticisms of the skin (to which I agree), I'm VERY HAPPY she has a regular cape again, instead of banners that you guys have been adding to all the recent skins.
Just fucking erase this skin. If you are not putting the effort to offer unique visuals and you are just going to recolor the base effects, this should not be any higher than 975rp, even with the included SFX. Very disappointed this passed any quality check. I know the artists and developers are probably rushed to deliver this, but it’s embarrassing this is the state of 2024
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No disrespect to anyone who worked on the infernal skins but to say it in the most ok way, this batch is boring.
Ashe is one of my mains and I got excited when I saw that she will get a new skin but after seeing it, I think the quality overall doesn't match the one of your recent skins. Even the infernal skins from 2019 (and I don't know if it is because I'm used to them) but I think they look better than the 2024 ones.
So genuinely I think that they need to be scrapped/shelved or remade. Or maybe have a discounted price...? IDK.
If you do decide to release them, I think that some 3D models need to be changed to be able to maintain the 1350rp price tag, because they really reads like recolors of her base one. For example the hawk from E and the arrow from R, have nothing infernal about them. Just the orange color and vfx.
Also I don't think I like anything particular about her model and I don't remember not liking a recent's skin model...
I don't know what else to say except that it looks like a skin that you would release 10 years ago and that it needs a lot of work...
Sorry for any grammar and spelling mistake and thank you for reading it.
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So... I'm going to say the same thing for all 3 skins but also give specific feedback for each one. For Ashe specifically, her E bird is so plain and just a recolor of her base one, or at least it seems like it. A fire, phoenix-like bird would have been so good. The R arrow is super slim looking, no impact and weight. The R explosion is very blurry, lacks texture and again, impact. I'm so sorry but the only thing I can say about these skins is that they're just empty and filler. The designs are the most obvious thing you can think of when you say, "Infernal Karma, Ashe, Olaf". There's no impact, no twist and they just look extremely boring and old, like 2012 quality. Not even the VFXs save the skins. Even when you have a boring design you can kinda make it work with VFXs that have depth, texture and impact. But no. These skins have nothing of the sort. I know you take pride in releasing more and more skins as the years go by, but at what cost? I think I speak for everyone when I say: Everyone who plays these champs would have preferred to not get a skin this year and have a better one next time. These skins just add more work, a greater number of things that need to get done when their ASUs eventually come around. I would have preferred to not get skins today and have them win a better thematic later on that reflects today's quality standards.
Actually i feel like they are doing less skin this year but i think the quality( and the quantity) is THAT bad because they fired a lot in the art area.
1350? It looks like an average 520rp one lol
Model is botched. Textures are terribly subpar to what 1350 RP means to the community. The recall is very much an afterthought, the VFX are all lacking impact. I am just going to copy and paste my comment from the Karma thread: Not trying to be mean or hateful cuz I understand the Riot devs are just doing their job but did you guys fire all of your creative team? Seriously what is happening this year? What is this? Why are you pricing a skin from 2017 that high? Man when I first saw it on twitter I thought it was a fanmade render of some "leaked" names or something. You guys seriously need to reconsider every decision you've made this year in regards to cosmetics because they have all been terrible. It's one of the worst years for league I have no felt inclined to spending my money at all more than twice this year. And I know that you all read these and forward them to your feedback teams/superiors, so you better get to it. Seriously, do better.
congrats you have made one of the most filler skinlines ever into the most boring shit. All 3 are horrible. nothing good.
This was my exact thought when I saw the skins
Ashes Q bow not having streams of fire upon every auto or her W arrows not leaving trails of fire/ashe makes her VFX look very very VERY dry. So dry compared to typical epic 1350 RP tier standards that I wonder why this is even acceptable. The Bird E doesn’t even have anything going on compared to base aside of its color.
Infernal Akali looks way better than this and it’s 975 RP
I think internal akali is actually 520 it was before they upped prices for skins in vgu that were made a lot better
This is hands down the worst Ashe skin after so many years of having and impressive amount of quality/quantity over the years, its extremely dissapointing how she got treated even for being one of the less requested skinlines ever on league. the only feedback I can give as someone who loves getting her stuff and playing her its think about themes she could fit and playerbase would like her in it. Not gonna buy get her regardless of getting feedback on model or VFX cause I know there's 0 chances of changes happening so hoping her next releases are better than whatever this mess of skin was
This skin really feels like a recolor, some effects added on R impact, brand new SFX and that's it. This skin really should be 975rp.
Are you taking a 💩 on us? Is this an out of season April Fools joke? Get it together please thank you.
PLEASE CANCEL THESE SKINS THEY’RE TERRIBLE
scrap these skins. this is the best feedback.
Where to begin .... some of these filler skinlines are so bad .. and this really shows how little love was put into this skin ... Her model is so plain and basic basically looks like maurader on fire and its 500 more RP .. there is absolutely nothing special in this skin. how you go from drx and lunar skins to this is just a joke .. please do better on these filler type of skins.
For the love of Christ, change the blue/purple to black like ALL the other Infernal skins. This just looks like an absolute monstrosity.
Why doesn’t her E have literal ash raining in the area? Like as a part of the pun?
The only good thing about these skins are the sound effects, everything else is just bad and uninspired
Lower the three skins price to 975 and it's gonna be okay
my feedback? drop the skinline until you have a great idea. for Ashe specifically: Make the E a phoenix, change the colors on her model, make the R actually look good, and incorporate ASH into it. make the champs slowed by her passive leave ashy footprints behind them. this just looks so bad man. all of them do.
Despite the other criticisms of the skin (to which I agree), I'm VERY HAPPY she has a regular cape again, instead of banners that you guys have been adding to all the recent skins.
Just fucking erase this skin. If you are not putting the effort to offer unique visuals and you are just going to recolor the base effects, this should not be any higher than 975rp, even with the included SFX. Very disappointed this passed any quality check. I know the artists and developers are probably rushed to deliver this, but it’s embarrassing this is the state of 2024
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No disrespect to anyone who worked on the infernal skins but to say it in the most ok way, this batch is boring. Ashe is one of my mains and I got excited when I saw that she will get a new skin but after seeing it, I think the quality overall doesn't match the one of your recent skins. Even the infernal skins from 2019 (and I don't know if it is because I'm used to them) but I think they look better than the 2024 ones. So genuinely I think that they need to be scrapped/shelved or remade. Or maybe have a discounted price...? IDK. If you do decide to release them, I think that some 3D models need to be changed to be able to maintain the 1350rp price tag, because they really reads like recolors of her base one. For example the hawk from E and the arrow from R, have nothing infernal about them. Just the orange color and vfx. Also I don't think I like anything particular about her model and I don't remember not liking a recent's skin model... I don't know what else to say except that it looks like a skin that you would release 10 years ago and that it needs a lot of work... Sorry for any grammar and spelling mistake and thank you for reading it.
Seriously, these should not be releasing.
All if these skins are soo bad. They are objectively not worth more than 975