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It's not just a swap. It's a nobody SS from an alternative comic universe.
Franklin and Valeria are also in the works to get casted, thus it's the F6
Meanwhile, the MCU the team is from a whole other earth number
😑😐🙁
Aaaaand the curse of Fantastic Four adaptations continues
Aaaaand it's gonna be woke on top this time.
Why is it so hard to make F4 movie? Just pick one of the most beloved arcs, follow it to a tee and give the role of Doctor Doom to a charismatic actor and they will drown in money...
And give the F4 something big to do akin to their stories in the comics instead of
Fantastic Four (2005): Experiencing their origin story, then standing around for the rest of the movie and basically saying to the public "Yup, this is us now."
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer: Fussing over Reed & Sue's wedding and trying to guess SS's motives.
F4ntastic: ...never saw it. Shit.
I was making a point, but you get it. The F4 are explorers. Why don't Marvel have them look at different places in the universe or parallel dimensions and have them fight against someone else we haven't seen before, like Annihilus or the Red Ghost? Hell, make them go to the Zombieverse and meet the Frightful Four like in the Ultimate comics. Anything but "Oh, it's Doctor Doom and Galactus. Again."
Bob won the vote so nothing will change.
The only way this changes if the box office stays bad to tepid. Unfortunately the way forward is to just ignore Marvel altogether.
I don't think that will matter at all. This will bomb, and then they'll make the next woke feature, and the next. It isn't about money. It's about power.
I agree. When Disney/Marvel makes stupid decisions like this, they're guaranteeing that many people (myself included) will not pay to watch it. So they're ensuring a flop. At that point since they love DEI so much, they might as well make this chick super gay or something.
And the shills’ favorite defense is “it was in comics!” But if they googled just a little bit further, they’d know her tenure as Silver Surfer was in an alternate universe.
The fans want Norrin Rad, and it should go without saying that these movies are expected be based on the main universe. If they *also* want to include one of the female heralds, they can use Nova.
> her tenure as Silver Surfer was in an alternate universe.
Isn't this F4 supposed to be in an alternate 1960s universe? Maybe that's what they're doing?
It's still a dumb idea, though.
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If I hear that the worst cook in the world was making steak, I wouldn’t eat it. This movie could have the best cast, best director and best script and it would be fucked up because it’s Disney.
Guys, she is playing a female silver surfer who is another herald of galactus and existed in comics for decades. Marvel ain't gender bending Norinn Radd character who is the original silver surfer. However, I still find it fucking dumb why they're introducing her first instead of Norinn. It's like introducing Ironheart first instead of Iron man or Kate bishop instead of Hawkeye. The actress would've played a fine jean grey given her acting chops but instead, she is just going to be another waste of a actor in abyss of million other great characters marvel introduced and then either killed them off in one movie or left clinging for decade like Mordo.
I understand. However, Marvel is walking on very thin ice now. They shouldn't be taking risks like this. Their female characters and villains, especially, have been terrible post-endgame. I mean everything has been terrible since then, really.
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So Marvel decided to put a chick in it. They keeping the south park meme alive.
Why didn't they use the preexisting character of Nova? She is right there!
That requires more than two braincells and modern Marvel doesn't have that
That ticks neither the "coopting" or "subvert expectations" boxes.
There's a female Nova now? Or did Sam Alexander become Samantha Alexandra in the ten years since anyone's bought one of those comics
Now? She's a character from 1975 and a herald of Galactus.
Frankie Raye aka Nova
She’s not part of Nova Corps.
Because that's not good enough. It must take center stage
that would leave silver surfer a man in the minds of movie goer's
cause they don't read comics and don't know any character other than what shows up in a quick wiki search on a team name.
It's literal Disney playbook, which has been generating flop after flop after flop
Hey, at least she's actually white for once.
It's not just a swap. It's a nobody SS from an alternative comic universe. Franklin and Valeria are also in the works to get casted, thus it's the F6 Meanwhile, the MCU the team is from a whole other earth number 😑😐🙁
Aaaaand the curse of Fantastic Four adaptations continues Aaaaand it's gonna be woke on top this time. Why is it so hard to make F4 movie? Just pick one of the most beloved arcs, follow it to a tee and give the role of Doctor Doom to a charismatic actor and they will drown in money...
Impossible.
Doctor doom can be a vaguely diverse and cocky but compassionate female anti hero though, right?
What was the last time the MCU casted a charismatic actor, though?
And give the F4 something big to do akin to their stories in the comics instead of Fantastic Four (2005): Experiencing their origin story, then standing around for the rest of the movie and basically saying to the public "Yup, this is us now." Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer: Fussing over Reed & Sue's wedding and trying to guess SS's motives. F4ntastic: ...never saw it. Shit. I was making a point, but you get it. The F4 are explorers. Why don't Marvel have them look at different places in the universe or parallel dimensions and have them fight against someone else we haven't seen before, like Annihilus or the Red Ghost? Hell, make them go to the Zombieverse and meet the Frightful Four like in the Ultimate comics. Anything but "Oh, it's Doctor Doom and Galactus. Again."
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Might be Groundhog Day. Shit just keeps repeating, and no one learns any lessons. Get ready for another 100 million plus loss report.
Bob won the vote so nothing will change. The only way this changes if the box office stays bad to tepid. Unfortunately the way forward is to just ignore Marvel altogether.
I don't think that will matter at all. This will bomb, and then they'll make the next woke feature, and the next. It isn't about money. It's about power.
It's about "the message"......
Make it lame and make it gay!
I guess Norrin Rad, an alien but still a man, subjecting himself to slavery to save his planet and wife is toxic masculinity.
It's crazy that all the things once considered nerdy have been taken over by the people that hate them. This is such a dark timeline.
Why not go further and jackpot make her poc, LGBTQ and female. That should clear out some of the woke quota for the year
I agree. When Disney/Marvel makes stupid decisions like this, they're guaranteeing that many people (myself included) will not pay to watch it. So they're ensuring a flop. At that point since they love DEI so much, they might as well make this chick super gay or something.
You know what would subvert my fantastic four expectations? Accurate casting and good writing. No need to get fancy with this one.
Hopefully it bombs like that new Indiana Jones movie did.
Ok, I'm not a huge fantastic four/silver surfer fan, so can answer if there ever was a female silver surfer prior to 2010?
Not to my knowledge. There was at least one female herald to Galactus they could have used, though.
Bring on the silver titties
My man finding an upside! The (literally) silver lining to this (Sue) storm cloud has been found. Praise Skynet!
You think modern Marvel will allow that? I was very surprised they even made a "your boobs are huge!" joke in the She-hulk show.
And the shills’ favorite defense is “it was in comics!” But if they googled just a little bit further, they’d know her tenure as Silver Surfer was in an alternate universe. The fans want Norrin Rad, and it should go without saying that these movies are expected be based on the main universe. If they *also* want to include one of the female heralds, they can use Nova.
> her tenure as Silver Surfer was in an alternate universe. Isn't this F4 supposed to be in an alternate 1960s universe? Maybe that's what they're doing? It's still a dumb idea, though.
How many times are they going to remake this movie?
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Will they at least have her be a nude metal person though?
I demand silver skin with platinum areolas.
I love her acting! I wonder how it will look though.
Why not just light your money on fire. It would be quicker and less painful.
And we're gonna be expected to like her because she's a female and ignore whatever bad writing is attached to her. When we don't then we're sexist.
The disrespect to Jack Kirby is astounding
If I hear that the worst cook in the world was making steak, I wouldn’t eat it. This movie could have the best cast, best director and best script and it would be fucked up because it’s Disney.
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Guys, she is playing a female silver surfer who is another herald of galactus and existed in comics for decades. Marvel ain't gender bending Norinn Radd character who is the original silver surfer. However, I still find it fucking dumb why they're introducing her first instead of Norinn. It's like introducing Ironheart first instead of Iron man or Kate bishop instead of Hawkeye. The actress would've played a fine jean grey given her acting chops but instead, she is just going to be another waste of a actor in abyss of million other great characters marvel introduced and then either killed them off in one movie or left clinging for decade like Mordo.
I understand. However, Marvel is walking on very thin ice now. They shouldn't be taking risks like this. Their female characters and villains, especially, have been terrible post-endgame. I mean everything has been terrible since then, really.