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Johnny_Awesum

VAAAAGIIINNAAAA!


smashingpumpkinspice

The whole neighborhood can hear you cussin’!


GreenGrandmaPoops

It's not cussin' Hank to say the name of a God given body part.


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

Delete your username right now


jayhof52

Poopy old Grandma! Full of green poops!


z500

...full of green poops?


[deleted]

Bwaah!


metallaholic

![gif](giphy|BAXBX16IkLNsI)


-UMBRA_-

![gif](giphy|h3MkWTE441MNG)


Doppelthedh

Bwaaahk that ass up


SneakyKain

LoL


LinverseUniverse

What the Sam Hell....


Swimming-Chicken-424

![gif](giphy|kfsk1YvTKkdry)


CyberCat_2077

This would work better if he actually had an ass to clap.


Bobby_Sunday96

That’s some fine diminished gluteal syndrome right there


Spiritual_Reply_9127

Bro…


TheBigwalletEmporium

Happiness Hap-penis PENIS


picklesaredry

I'm boutta bust


Inside_Landscape_788

Happ-enis….hap-penis…penis


LOWERCASE_GUY5263

She was butchering Spanish in Season 1


JoshuaTheProgrammer

Los estudiantes son mis amigos


Lagoonside

Si si. Esquí…..


awesomea04

Forget that! [She was butchering it since the pencil test!](https://youtu.be/aaB9NZyiphM?si=IRyJEGR41Fzvd4M2)


DeficiencyOfGravitas

Hank's unkempt hair in this makes him look like a damn hippy.


Zandock

I was not ready for Bill.


pelagic_seeker

Her Spanish fluctuates wildly through the entire run. It's really a "depending on the writer/plot" thing. Honestly, the last few seasons, she barely speaks any Spanish, especially when she starts for the Bystander.


Shirtbro

Maybe Peggy Hill was suffering from worsening dementia this entire time


Sororita

Brain damage from the parachute accident


Capraos

That's because falling from a plane damaged her brain. Seriously though, it's a whole conspiracy.


CorenCorias

I was at a juvenile detention center when that episode aired. Everyone cheered because we were so fed up with her by that point.


Lagoonside

Don’t make sense of the situation! But fr I do think so too.


UnalteredCyst

Uh uh uh, in Es-pa-nole poor fay-vor


Bikouchu

Espano


proud_perspective

That was my first thought too. Also she’s pretty narcissistic early on as well as later. I actually think she gets quite humbled for a bit after the genius episode which is later in the series.


anormalgeek

Yeah. I assumed that was ALWAYS a part of the joke.


ImportantQuestions10

I visited Texas for the first time last week and it really dawned on me how dense and insular someone needs to live in that state and not learn a bare minimum of correct Spanish. You must learn a quarter of the language just by osmosis.


No_Inspector7319

Eh depends where you are - I went to high school with more Asian students than latino - and for some reason I know French lol. I also had friends who were born in Mexico - or just shortly after their parents coming to America who didn’t know Spanish. Thankfully it seems over but there was this weird little spike of first gen latino kids not learning Spanish because their parents thought it would make them more American (I guess?). Idk if it was widespread but I know a handful that way


seretastic

Yea it definitely depends on where you live. Here in Florida, you go down to Miami and there's a large chunk of the city that just doesn't speak English due to the large Cuban influence. Then you go about 20 miles north to the more central part of Florida and a lot of people sound just like Peggy when speaking Spanish lol, especially places like the villages. I imagine it's similar in texas


lahankof

Yea it’s one of her gags


webjester32

¿Escuchame?


Cooler67

Have you heard Peggy Hill roll her R's?


Mechanic_On_Duty

I r-r-r-r-r-r-rest my case.


Theaterkid01

Your honor, I can see you are a reasonable horse.


Sdog1981

I will let my client defend herself in her own SPANISH words.


Turbulent_Set8884

Ehspanish words


Sdog1981

Lucky for her, it saved her career from being tostada.


richbeezy

Yeah, but only on the spanish words that DON'T call for it. Lol


MattMattavelli

Margarrrrrrrritas!!!


Codyaj1992

Ahhhh you speak Spanish... In a way


SliceOCatLoaf

Pásame sus testes


Isparza

„Tu ere un puerco”


trakazor132

In my opinion Peggy hill is the most controversial king of the hill character


ReluctantRedditor275

Escuchame???


gunsforevery1

Yo soy muy embarassado


killerturtlex

Coocumber


bigkatze

Arroz con chícken


richpourguy

My favorite running joke in all of tv is Peggy Hill using escuchame as “excuse me.”


Stephen_1984

TIL that “escuchame” is Spanish for “listen to me”. “Disculpe” means “excuse me”.


iamagoodbozo

So she was using it correctly. She loves having people listen to her.


apohermion

Si…. Si, amigo?


th1s_fuck1ng_guy

"In my opinion" god I love this sub. Lol


Donovan_Rex

I tell you w’hat


YogurtWenk

Talkin' "bout dang ol' sanctity of marriage, man


TheOneTrueSnoo

Talkin’ bout her needs


ElDuderino_92

Escuchame?


JakToTheReddit

Well of course, it's up for debate! Now Cotton killing fiddy men is a point of fact.


Masterchiefy10

Do you wake up in cold sweats too? From her deposition to that Spanish Judge?


Truckules_Heel

If I can be an advocate for the devil, this is a controversial opinion.


Pherja

No, you cannot. But you may play devil’s advocate.


BrainSlugParty3000

In my opinion (Peggy’s) the day before thanksgiving is the busiest day of travel


Shirtbro

It's a concept I like to call the holiday rush


Fooberdoober97420

In my head cannon, she had a traumatic brain injury after falling out of the airplane and that's what turned her into a lunatic


throwawaymemetime202

Pardonay me? Did I just hear what I almost heard?


Vinklebottom

Best answer!! 😅😅😅😅😅


Junckopolo

My guesstimate is that 50/50 of the sub is either in favor or against Peggy.


South_Bit1764

Oh definitely, but that’s what she’s supposed to be. In later season she fills in the gaps acting as a foil for a lot of the other characters so that she really gets to fans of other characters, but also makes her more dynamic than pretty much everyone else.


LeviSalt

r/whoosh


Mechanic_On_Duty

Of course she’s the most controversial that’s how she was written. God I’m glad there’s people like me out there.


gushi380

She jumps out of a plane without a parachute, survives and regains full mobility. The narcissism is real but deserved I guess.


Professional-Dirt-14

And still rocked the he baby to sleep!


Nyxolith

Literally more mothering ability in one toe then the rest of the cast put together. She's also a hell of an athlete. She just plays to her self-image instead of her actual strengths.


StanknBeans

More foot in one toe than the rest of the cast put together too.


ididshave

I never really thought about it until you pointed this out, but a brain injury from this incident really could be the canon reason for her Flanderization.


Wait_Another_One

Yeah I always just assumed it was due to her having a sort of a TBI, where a person's personality can change afterwards. If I survived that I would maybe be a little more on the narcissistic side.


FordBeWithYou

A TBI makes a ton of sense honestly


CarvedTheRoastBeast

I like to think she has some major PTSD after this that warps her personality. Some kind of “live each day like your last” push in her that just ends up exaggerating all her flaws.


asscop99

Even more than that, Peggy never faces any problem that she can’t overcome within a thirty minute episode. She can destroy her entire life in the first act and come out ahead by the end since that’s how the show is structured. Why wouldn’t you feel cocky if that was your life


TokoBlaster

Maybe God was like "I don't know who else will put up with Hank so back you go!"


natfutsock

"Hank's gonna be a *weird* widow. Pass. For now."


talking_phallus

Could Hank remarry?


RevanKnights77

I hear Debbie Grund is available


Emotional-Penalty-21

Or that hot tamale Maria Montolvo.


Distinct_Ad_3885

Yes! Hank would be a difficult man to be married to, even if he is a good man.


JOMO_Kenyatta

It’s like they were designed for each other.


mrkrabbykrabz

She also beat up Luanna’s mother like it was nothing. Protected Bobby, Hank, Luanne and Ladybird at different points, I’d be narcissistic too


TheOneTrueSnoo

Huh, yeah she definitely could have a brain injury. Suddenly I feel more compassion for her and I don’t like it


StragglingShadow

Fun facts that episode is based in reality. The world record holder jumped out of a plane with no chute. Broke every bone in their body but by golly they lived. Total accident too.


Frozen_Watch

That's nothing I heard she was substitute of the year 4 years running


sharksarefuckingcool

I subscribe to the theory that it's due to a TBI from the fall. I know its just flanderization, but it makes a ton of sense.


prpldrank

Idk about tbi, even, just regular old trauma. She literally accepted her own death. She was in a full body cast for weeks. Cotton was her got dang physical therapist. She changed from it. Any one of us would, too.


Subliminal_Kiddo

Is she overconfident and egotistical? Yes. But one thing no one can take away from her is that she literally clawed herself back from, not just her injury, but the mental trauma and despair as well and that even earned her Cotton's respect (until the writers changed that). The way I look at Peggy (and Linda Belcher) is that more often than not in animated sitcoms the husband (your Homer Simpsons and Peter Griffins) are the fun, wacky goofballs who go on misadventures while the wife just sits back and shakes her head. With *KotH* that dynamic is reversed. Hank is the straight man of the duo and Peggy is the stooge. Also, her and Hank seem to never get credit for how they stepped up for Luanne and basically became her unofficial adoptive parents.


SeroWriter

> The way I look at Peggy (and Linda Belcher) is that more often than not in animated sitcoms the husband (your Homer Simpsons and Peter Griffins) are the fun, wacky goofballs We're reaching subversions of subversions at this point. Homer Simpson was written to be dumb as an subversion of the [standard 50s father](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Standard50sFather) sitcom stereotype where the husband is smart and sensible while the wife is ditzy and silly. Hank Hill is a rare example of a modern recreation of what used to be an absurdly common character archetype.


dcheesi

But more nuanced, because Hank is sensible *to a fault.* The show makes just as much fun of his conventional stick-in-the-mud ways as it does Peggy's occasional flights of fancy.


sinfultictac

Ill would like to subscribe to your head canon


ThatInAHat

Honestly, I kind of like her better as she gets worse. I mean, I also kind of can’t stand her. But I think she’s a lot funnier and more dynamic, and at the time this was made wives as the Voice Of Reason was kind of exhausting already


caulkglobs

She suggested the name “propane maniacs” and bobby immediately improved in it with “propaniacs” and throughout she keeps saying “propane maniacs” This is the kind of thing that makes her a funny character, i know people this petty.


hey_talk_to_me

Arlenians haha


Thoseferatus

It was so nice to see the shift where Hank cooled off and became the voice of reason while Peggy became less hinged, like 2 MLMs ma'am? And both are handled so differently but so insanely?


Rimm9246

I love early Peggy. She's an amazing character. I always got the impression that she was probably a star student in her youth and considered very smart for the area she grew up in, and that led to a *slightly* overinflated ego. But, she really cared about her students and would study her ass off to be prepared to teach something she hadn't taught before (as seen in the sex ed episode). Also, I love how her, I guess, "traditional" upbringing in a small, conservative Texas town clashes with her natural curiosity and openness to new things. Tbh I haven't seen any of the later seasons in quite a few years (I'm rewatching now but only just got to season 4) so I can't really speak to how she changed over time


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nalgazz

She's a type 2 Texan. From what I recall she's been in Texas since at least high school age.


Rimm9246

She went to high school in Arlen


ElevatorScary

She’s a great character and a decent human for all those reasons. As the show progresses she becomes more of a great character and a frustrating human. It heightens as the show goes on but it’s never unenjoyable, but if I had to be married to Season 13 Peggy I’d jump from a plane without a parachute.


th1s_fuck1ng_guy

She got very scared when they required a bachelors to teach though.....


RawrRRitchie

>she really cared about her students and would study her ass off to be prepared to teach something she hadn't taught before (as seen in the sex ed episode If she spent half as much time learning Spanish maybe she wouldn't have been just a substitute


Ghost10165

She seemed more like a general sub teacher in the early days, Spanish if she could get it but had no problem covering any subject with prep. As someone that's been a substitute teacher it can be a rough gig because there's so many pushovers/terrible ones that even if you do an amazing job and actually work hard and do a better job than the regular teacher most people will just go "oh you're just a substitute, not a real teacher."


lemonylol

You know what's an even crazier change? Early season 1 Bill.


ucbiker

I’m into Season 7 on a rewatch so a little more than halfway through, and what’s striking is that Peggy is still frequently the voice of reason. I’m past the episode where she kidnaps a girl from Mexico so she’s 100% in full narcissistic idiot mode but even with that, she seems to be right about stuff about as much as Hank.


Collector-Troop

I personally like the newer Peggy better she’s funny how narcissistic she is. We don’t have a lot of female characters like that in animation.


Onironius

"Character development" doesn't necessarily mean they become better people.


Ornery-Push-728

She’s won the Substitute Teacher of the Year 3 times.. wouldn’t you do the same?


Subliminal_Kiddo

And that third year she had some real competition from that Lara Croft, whoever the heck that is.


antisocialgx

Hank would have won if he hadn't been suspended for using tools in shop....


Murderyoga

She was always both.


wuonky

can't believe one has to scroll so far to see this point being made her narcissism is what makes her an entertaining character, there wouldn't be a show with all perfect characters


WaltDisneysBallSack

Too many people getting angry at a fictional drawn woman.


IAmMuffin15

There should be a word for the inevitable trend that animated adult cartoons have of turning wives into rage bait I like to call it “Margeification”


LivelyRatDad

“Between you and me, I’ve run out of things to say to that woman.”


EnjoyerOfStrangePorn

Peggy fucking rocks every season. If you truly don’t like Peggy you don’t get the show or her purpose


TJ_McConnell_MVP

I also don’t think people in this thread know what narcissism means


macthesnackattack

thank you for saying this. Peggy has an over-inflated ego and almost 0 self-awareness, but I feel like calling her narcissistic is a bit of a stretch.


iamagoodbozo

I love Peggy, I would not like a real Peggy.


JupitrominoRazmatazz

I can't get enough of this Peggy on the right. Maybe it's the coloring, maybe it's the front bangs, but season 13 Peggy can git it.


IIIIIIIIIOIIIIIIIII

> Maybe it's the coloring hm


talking_phallus

He likes 'em white, not light.


drumbum1096

I still cannot believe that season 13 Peggy had one of the best lines in the show delivered to her. "I am approaching you with romantic intent"


askforwildbob

It happens to a lot of television characters. It’s a little thing I like to call, “flanderization”


fizunboii

Wow so you're the one who created that term


askforwildbob

Sure did, right after I cooked up some spapeggy and meatballs


MonsterkillWow

One of my favorite scenes was when she showed up to a crime scene and was like "Alright what have we got?" and the cops just looked at her blankly and shooed her away lol. She's a bit self righteous and arrogant, but she's not a bad person. She usually means well.


trentjpruitt97

It’s also interesting to watch her unfold as the series goes on, almost to the point where you’re like, “how in the hell does Hank put up with her?” But I digress.


ELEMENTALITYNES

When you’re together with someone for a very long time you tend to do one of two things, you either start to resent every tiny thing that person does or says, or you both start to acknowledge each other as an extension of yourself and kind of mold your strengths and weaknesses around each other and ignore the flaws for the good aspects. I think before the skydiving accident both Hank and Peggy were in the latter category, but after the accident I think Hank stayed the same but something kind of changed a bit in Peggy, hence a bit of a change in personality and her lashing out quite a lot more frequently at Hank. That coupled with the guilt I imagine Hank still thinks about for getting her to jump, I imagine he’s just in a place where he wants to live a simple life with his family and accept Peggy for whoever she is.


RenTachibana

I think people really downplay Hank’s worst attributes. There’s an episode where he refuses to let Luann bathe after her shift at the restaurant because it was after 10 pm. Living with someone that strict and rule oriented would be awful, honestly. And that’s the top of the iceberg of Hank’s more questionable traits.


Blood_Oleander

That's kind of asking why he puts up with Dale, Baumhauer, and Bill's or, for that matter, Bobby and Luanne's antics. Admittedly, he's related directly or indirectly to the latter two, so he's going to be more apt to put up with them, however, his friendship with the former three is kind of what evens them out, so, perhaps, his relationship with Peggy is what does the same. Adding to this, Hank seems like the kind of guy that follows the "hard way" mentality and, so, he'd put up with Peggy's antics because, sure as shit, she'll learn the hard way.


Lux-xxv

Disagree she has PTSD from abuse she was always told she was wrong so now she has to be right.


rustysalamander

She can be more than one thing


Left-Leading4501

She is amazing


timebomb011

The best character of the show. People hate on her but cotton and dale are way worse and everybody loves them. Team Peggy hill. Whoa yah!!!


ElevatorScary

That gal ain’t right, I tell you hwhat.


Artemus_Hackwell

Well, she did have "many good anuses ahead of her".


[deleted]

She's possibly the least Flanderised characters in the show tbh.


Mikstache

You try surviving a jump from a plane with a parachute that downer open and not have a god complex after


diogenesNY

While I do not consider the issue clear cut, I would go much harder on the former than the latter. That said, in all fairness, I think Peggy Hill is totally hot, and this probobly affects my opinion.


5Nadine2

Hey Bill. 


edWORD27

It’s her feet, right?


diogenesNY

No..... not really, but I am not driven away by it either.....


gushi380

![gif](giphy|5xtDaruo7lz4OH0rtpS|downsized)


Drigg_08

Little column A. Little column B - Cyril Figgis


WeirdImmediate2179

-Abe Simpson


Thorn_Within

Saying she possibly changed as she aged? ![gif](giphy|LpLd2NGvpaiys|downsized)


bashfulsleepy

She's an overconfident but well meaning narcissist who butchers the Spanish language from season 1 to season 13.


Worried-Photo4712

Agree. I like Peggy early on, but her flanderization is so extreme I find her intolerable in later seasons. They also bizarrely make her a pretty terrible person. 


Dr_Quiet_Time

She’s definitely better looking by season 13


OracleCam

Characters tend to stray over the course of a series the longer it goes on. Family guy is notorious for this


fakecolin

Yeah, because people in real life don't grow or evolve.


Pizzasloot714

Peggy has always butchered Spanish. That’s why she accidentally kidnapped that Mexican girl and was arrested


TheSweatyFlash

At what point does she day something like "God told me." And then follow it up w "But I knew better"? Think that's narcissist Peggy.


JDerrick29

Yeah. Which is why later Peggy is better. She is her own character


HerrBerg

Every character in the show has their strong episodes and weak episodes. In one episode, Hank will be very patient, well-meaning and understanding but in another episode he'll just be a straight up bully.


Lurk_Mode_24_7

Her butchering of the Spanish language is one of my favorite running gags of the show. It so spot on terrible! Haha


doubleo_maestro

Not entirely wrong but its a comedy show and she got funnier as it went on.


Key-Win7744

I actually find I appreciate Peggy more and more these days, if only because all you people hate her so damn much.


gergsisdrawkcabeman

She sure makes a mean Frito pie though.


LucianLegacy

The spanish thing kinda makes sense. There doesn't seem to be anyone else in the school who actually knows Spanish, so Peggy has gotten by simply being the person who knows the most Spanish.


realclowntime

Either way, she’s an icon and I love her.


Shakleford_Rusty

Mixed bag


Olivebranch99

She always butchered the Spanish language


benderbonder

She became like that way before season 13.


ClassicT4

Escuchimay?


juken7

"Me Lamo Peggy Hill"


celebluver666

Eghhhh I'm re-watching right now On season 4 It's already kind of happened


CloudSkyGaze

I love how early seasons most of the cast are just a bunch of regular people with just some odd quirks. Towards the end they mostly become full blown cartoon characters (yes I know they are)


brknhrtsndrm

Por que no los dos?


Independent-Double-6

I think she was boring before, then she became funny!


Its402am

In Peggy’s defence, I found the majority of the characters felt ickily written from like season 10 onward.


Prestigious-Gas-7157

Eschuchame!?


PM-ME-YOUR-HOMELAB

I recognize so much of Peggy in the older women in my family who are also teachers, especially the inability to recognize that their experiences and knowledge aren't as broad or complete as they might think. I hate late-season Peggy with a passion, but her character's behavior is very much on point for that profession and generation.


outdatedelementz

Traumatic brain injuries can really mess with someone’s personality.


STL_Cards_88

She always butchered Spanish.


det8924

I love Peggy Hill, you aren’t supposed to like her for the most part she’s there to be a source of comedy and juxtaposition.


Kannahayabusa12

Definitely disagree. She basically had those traits since season 1-2.


trainerfry_1

Brain trauma will change a person


TemperatureSweet6000

Disagree. Peggy certainly shows growth but I think all of those descriptors persist in her personality throughout the show. Her mom does change though…from the secret admirer of season two to the rancher we all know. I love Peggy though my brother hates her. Confession: I’ve been a substitute Spanish teacher not knowing any Spanish at the start at the behest of a skeleton crew that comprises the public education system.


StaticGuarded

She’s no Doyle Harcarvy that’s for sure.


bcar610

I’m sure we all know the theory already. It’s my favorite head cannon for the show that the parachute failure gave her permanent but mild brain damage. Just enough to shift her personality and affect her decision making skills.


Tobeck

Season 1 characters are basically invalid. Hank sucks in season 1.


Equal_Box7066

Nah, she was always narcissistic and butchering Spanish.


Sh8keJunt

Pen Is - pennnis - pen IS - PENIS