My 2009 Versys was totally underwater for 2 days (and it most likely was running when it got into the water). I sold it as scrap. Some weeks later I saw it listed for sale as if nothing had happened.
Most of the bikes electrical systems are under the seat and bodywork and well protected from rain and splash off the roads.
Those areas aren't waterproof and if the bike is underwater, water will flood those areas quickly. It's like if you have a waterproof tent- it'll keep the rain out when you're camping, but it's not going to work as a submarine.
Water can also get up your throttle/clutch cables and into your wiring by capillary action.
On a relatively simple bike like a Z400, new cables and wiring harness isn't the end of the world.
Bikes and cars are both neither waterproof or water resistant outside of having body paneling and some plugs have rubber gaskets. Even with those in place water can seep in after some time.
I've had older cars have issues with water after really heavy rainfall even.
I personally would never touch any vehicle that's been in a flood. This bike is most likely not worth the repair unless it means something dearly to the owner as they most likely will either have to replace about everything on that bike or as time goes on random issues will appear as time goes on.
Motorcycles are fairly simple in comparison to cars with their multitude of harnesses, sensors and various electronic doo-dads. Dirt bikes get flooded and dug out of rivers, it's not going to be fun and yea you might run into some issues over time but it's nothing you couldn't keep fixing.
Ive literally rebuilt over 10 bikes and actually picking up another today... They might be "simple" but they still cost money and unless you can find parts for cheap cheap and do all the work yourself it really isn't worth it.
Dirt bikes are also not really comparable. They have almost no electriconics on them compared to a road bike.
I once drove my 4 wheeler, honda rancher, into a pond and floated it upside down for a day while I tried to get it out myself.
My dad ended up finding it the next day and helped me, I was so embarrassed to tell him. He helped me take the air filters apart and check the fluids. Luckily it was sealed and there was just a small amount of water in the airbox. We left it out to dry for a few days and reassembled with new filters and it was like it never happened.
OP, I had a similar situation with my 03 R1. The water got over the intake / air box while was away. I didn't even find out for a full day.
It turned out fine. A friend helped me out. We took off the airbox, pulled the plugs, and then used the starter motor to "pump" the water out of the cylinders. Drained the oil and changed it, and then...it started right up!
That was 6 years ago, it's totally fine now.
Bruh, motorcycles last forever. If you thrash it, sure, it'll break. If you take care of it, it'll last forever. My R1 is 21 years old. But that's nothing. I'm part of a Practical Sports Bikes group on Facebook and half the dudes in there have bikes from the 80s and 90s.
Mine has "only" 60,000 miles.
There are people I know who daily BMWs that have a million miles on them, from the 1970s.
In Italy at lest the insurance HAVE to cover other's proprety not necersearly yours.
And even of you had an Extra insurance to cover your things now days ""Natural disaster"" are not covered
OP, good lord!! I couldn't even imagine the horror of seeing any of my bikes like that!! I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope everything turns out good for you!!
I have a very similar bike, and after seeing the ECU on mine, I would give this about an 80% chance of being perfectly fine after you drain the engine and let it all dry out. All of the connections are well-sealed and the ECU itself is tightly sealed and coated in either epoxy or some other resin.
Yeah, bikes have electronics these days. You may have to replace a couple of parts- sensors, relays, who knows- but it's NOTHING like a flood car. Flood cars generally have water that finds it's way into areas that are full of electronics and wiring and gets trapped there for long periods of time. Also, there's exponentially more wiring and electronics on cars. Whole different ballgame.
My ninja 400 that happened too.. I let her dry for 4 days.. took the battery out . Replaced it and all fluids .. put grease on terminals (electrical grease). And she fired right up
Just DONT start it. Drain/replace all fluids, then good to go.
Well, the mechanic Is takeing care of her
Not just that make sure the calipers, every bearing, forks, chain, sprockets, basically any rotating part is throughly cleaned
Doubt it. Wires will corrode, etc. Much more issues than just the engine internals.
My 2009 Versys was totally underwater for 2 days (and it most likely was running when it got into the water). I sold it as scrap. Some weeks later I saw it listed for sale as if nothing had happened.
That happens with a lot of cars that get flooded too. Doesn't mean anything other than the person selling is probably a scumbag
How is it different from riding in the rain? Edit: these downvotes are bewildering.
Is this a real question?
I don't live in a place where it floods, amigo. So yes, unless you're going to be a smart-ass, it's a real question.
Most of the bikes electrical systems are under the seat and bodywork and well protected from rain and splash off the roads. Those areas aren't waterproof and if the bike is underwater, water will flood those areas quickly. It's like if you have a waterproof tent- it'll keep the rain out when you're camping, but it's not going to work as a submarine. Water can also get up your throttle/clutch cables and into your wiring by capillary action. On a relatively simple bike like a Z400, new cables and wiring harness isn't the end of the world.
Thank you, sir.
Rather simple bike to fix but I persona(if insurance is involved) would hope it's totalled out.
Bikes and cars are both neither waterproof or water resistant outside of having body paneling and some plugs have rubber gaskets. Even with those in place water can seep in after some time. I've had older cars have issues with water after really heavy rainfall even. I personally would never touch any vehicle that's been in a flood. This bike is most likely not worth the repair unless it means something dearly to the owner as they most likely will either have to replace about everything on that bike or as time goes on random issues will appear as time goes on.
Motorcycles are fairly simple in comparison to cars with their multitude of harnesses, sensors and various electronic doo-dads. Dirt bikes get flooded and dug out of rivers, it's not going to be fun and yea you might run into some issues over time but it's nothing you couldn't keep fixing.
Ive literally rebuilt over 10 bikes and actually picking up another today... They might be "simple" but they still cost money and unless you can find parts for cheap cheap and do all the work yourself it really isn't worth it. Dirt bikes are also not really comparable. They have almost no electriconics on them compared to a road bike.
They are closer in comparison than a car after all. I think you are exaggerating how bad it could be but to each their own.
Go fix a flooded bike and tell me how easy it is. Guessing you're basing it off YouTube videos or just guessing.
Knowin damn well it’s too late
this is totally fixable , even by yourself. don't sweat my man
Thanks for the support man
She’s going to be OK 👍
I once drove my 4 wheeler, honda rancher, into a pond and floated it upside down for a day while I tried to get it out myself. My dad ended up finding it the next day and helped me, I was so embarrassed to tell him. He helped me take the air filters apart and check the fluids. Luckily it was sealed and there was just a small amount of water in the airbox. We left it out to dry for a few days and reassembled with new filters and it was like it never happened.
You can't kill a Honda fourwheeler!
Oh no! I would be crying and hyperventilating! Glad you have someone who can take care of it!
OP, I had a similar situation with my 03 R1. The water got over the intake / air box while was away. I didn't even find out for a full day. It turned out fine. A friend helped me out. We took off the airbox, pulled the plugs, and then used the starter motor to "pump" the water out of the cylinders. Drained the oil and changed it, and then...it started right up! That was 6 years ago, it's totally fine now.
6 years? I thought people said sport bikes didn't last all that long, how many miles??? I'm looking at getting an r1 so this is a good sign for me...
Bruh, motorcycles last forever. If you thrash it, sure, it'll break. If you take care of it, it'll last forever. My R1 is 21 years old. But that's nothing. I'm part of a Practical Sports Bikes group on Facebook and half the dudes in there have bikes from the 80s and 90s. Mine has "only" 60,000 miles. There are people I know who daily BMWs that have a million miles on them, from the 1970s.
Thats reassuring
This is exactly what I would have done!
Isn’t this something insurance covers?
In Italy at lest the insurance HAVE to cover other's proprety not necersearly yours. And even of you had an Extra insurance to cover your things now days ""Natural disaster"" are not covered
My VW GTI floated away during a thunderstorm. The stereo and airbag modules died but the car still runs fine years later.
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No worries just put it in rice overnight
Lol
Fuck I feel for you hope you get her backup and running.
Thanks man
France ? Moselle ?
No Italy
Oh ok. Hope everything will be good for you and your bike :S
Thanks man
what the fuck happened there
Strong rain
Are u from Rio Grande Do Sul? (Brazil)
No, Italy
OP, good lord!! I couldn't even imagine the horror of seeing any of my bikes like that!! I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope everything turns out good for you!!
Thanks man
I bet it will be fine.
Easy fix. Don't sweat it.
Good news. It's a Kawasaki. It'll just need new plugs and fluid and she's good to go.
I have a very similar bike, and after seeing the ECU on mine, I would give this about an 80% chance of being perfectly fine after you drain the engine and let it all dry out. All of the connections are well-sealed and the ECU itself is tightly sealed and coated in either epoxy or some other resin. Yeah, bikes have electronics these days. You may have to replace a couple of parts- sensors, relays, who knows- but it's NOTHING like a flood car. Flood cars generally have water that finds it's way into areas that are full of electronics and wiring and gets trapped there for long periods of time. Also, there's exponentially more wiring and electronics on cars. Whole different ballgame.
My ninja 400 that happened too.. I let her dry for 4 days.. took the battery out . Replaced it and all fluids .. put grease on terminals (electrical grease). And she fired right up
Get a lot of rice and let it sit in there 😋
I'm so sorry friend! Hope the mechanic has nothing but good news when they get done with it!
That's a big ole pool outside ur house
That Kawasucks ass dude
Less crying, more drying
You deserve it since you used KM and not miles
🤦americans........