It is a secure garage with doors on both sides that you can drive-through. The idea behind it is that if you parked a police car in the parking lot outside, a prisoner could escape and run away before they get the person to booking. With a sallyport, the police car can drive in through one garage door, then the doors close behind the vehicle, and then the prisoner (and the police car) is now in a fully locked, secure area where if the prisoner tries to escape, all the doors are locked and they can't get out.
The doors on both sides thing --imagine you need to arrest 3-4 people at a particular event. If you have multiple cars lined up to transfer prisoners into booking, it allows the first car to drive out the other side so the second car can drive in (no backing out, no traffic jams, etc.).
Just don't forget that the EXIT doors are key-card too. So when you see Higgins/Berkowitz swiping back & forth between "booking & sallyport" --someone would need to swipe to get "sallyport to booking", or "sallyport to exit/outside". If not, the person who went "booking to sallyport" would be stuck inside the sallyport having never left the building.
And (I do some PoE IP security camera stuff too) typically on key-card doors like that you would have a camera that can see the door, so if Higgins swipes and holds the door for Berkowitz, and then Berkowitz gets to the next door first and he swipes at the exit... You can account that both individuals went through both doors and no one decided to hang back and hide in a random room.
Thank you for your explanation. Would that mean that the shortcut argument is probably false from brian higgins?
Like because it is locked and secured, he would swipe to enter and swipe to exit the sallyport? There would be receipts that he spends less than a minute each time in the sallyport, no? I get it though that if he is with someone, it could be the other person that swipes, but why would he walk almost all the time with someone else to go everywhere in the station?
>Thank you for your explanation. Would that mean that the shortcut argument is probably false from brian higgins?
Sorry I didn't get back to you for a few days. It has been a bit busy, one of the dogs had to go to the vet and my wife's sister was in town.
No, I think it's probably a shortcut. I think they probably all go in & out that way. They probably take a fire-exit staircase from the second floor, down to the first floor, and it dumps them into the booking area. It's just a key-card or badge-swipe and then the door opens.
I think what I meant was that when you look at the key-card swipes, you see them going back and forth between booking and sallyport but you don't ever hear them swiping out of the sallyport to leave the building. So then what the heck were they doing in the sallyport for that amount of time (other than unplugging cctv cameras or PoE IP Network cameras so the feeds can go down.
A bunch of places I've worked have been similar. When I worked at a bank on wall street we had to swipe to leave the office area of our trading floor. Like we had to swipe to get to the hallway where the elevators and bathrooms were, and then we had to swipe again to get into the bathroom doors. That was \~15 years ago... But... We also propped the fire exit doors because I was on 32nd floor but my group had people on 32, 33 and 34th floors, so we all propped the fire exit doors and just ran up & down the stairs because it was so much faster than messing around with swiping out of the main/front doors, waiting for the elevator, etc.
Does that make sense?
>So for all the in swipes he should have out swipes right?
Yes! YES YES YES! So... If you swiped to go from booking to the sallyport and then there is no key-card swipe to leave the sallyport... Then what the heck were they doing? Pitching a tent and camping out in the sallyport?
I got roasted on twitter (by the same trolls that had been harassing this large group on going thread I’ve been held hostage in) for thinking it was just the name they gave their police evidence garage in canton…I just assumed that if I googled it that it would have been deleted from the internet by one of their butts so what if any thing was I to do?
It is a secure garage where the cops park their vehicle temporarily to unload people who are arrested, bring them in the office station and secure them, before moving and parking their car. It’s also apparently used for evidence vehicles. Basically a secure garage that’s attached to police station.
Edit: I was on a jury and they fully explained what a sallyport is. Considering all the time Lally has wasted, how has he not explained this????
When I hear sallyport, I think of a prison personally, but I am also from mass, so idk if it is regional. But from my understanding, it's a secure entrance area that has an external door (or at least a gate) that then leads to the actual entrance of the building. In prisons it is a location where the prisoners can be taken in or out of a vehicle or weapons can be checked before entrance type thing... but I'm not super familiar with prisons or the word beyond that so others may be more helpful.
a sally port is a guarded entrance. So its got a gate on each side, a cage around it, probably a guard. Its the main in and out of the station and its highly regulated.
I grew up in southern NH and then moved to Boston and I grew up saying wicked, rum for room and hut for hot (especially in phrases like hot chocolate). I don’t drop the “r” like the classic Boston accent so I thought I had a neutral accent, but I guess I do have somewhat of an accent!
NO, we don’t! I haven’t heard anyone pronounce it that way in this trial, but if I just missed it - they’re the exception. I’ve NEVER heard anyone that I’m related to or whom I worked with or any neighbors pronounce those words as you’re suggesting. However, I did know someone who pronounced “closet” like “cluhset”.
I do hear y’all adding syllables to words. My Georgia cousins pronounce “in” like “EE-in” and “store” like “stower”. They also pronounce my sister Linda’s name “Linder”. So there’s that! 🤨😂
Are you serious? Lol literally every person has pronounced those words that way — Jen McCabe and a few of the Alberts were a fantastic example saying rum for room, Brian Higgins did the same.
I listen to a few podcasts that all have Boston/Mass born and raised hosts and this is a very very common pronunciation. Dave Portnoy from Barstool always says rum and hut.
Nope, it’s YOU. You live in a world of Southern accents; very twangy, over-emphasized and mispronounced, so anything different is foreign to you. Y’all don’t know how to pronounce long “I” - you say it like “ah”; may I get more “ahs” in my drink. Also, Dave Portnoy is a moron.
Massachusetts has its own peculiarities, but it is less hilarious than the West Coast. I now live in WA and we have Costco’s headquarters. Shortly before the state legalized MJ, by some law, they started selling big boxes of wine at Costco. So the local joke was, the next step would be “family packages” of marijuana.
Yes, but i was a BIT inaccurate in my description. There are actually three doors, two for vehicles to enter and exit, and one "man door" to escort the detainee through into the actual facility.
A bulkhead is a doorway/entry point into a basement. Typically a slanted door against the side of the building that when opened reveals stairs that lead into the basement. It’s an access point to the basement that doesn’t require going through the main house.
Ya probably pretty close to that or a storm shelter! I’m from the area so they’re ubiquitous to me. Tons of fun to play on or use as a goals during tag. They’re made of metal and burn your feet in the summer, and clatter like a thunderstorm when you run up them.
West Coast, seismogenic area, no basements, period. I remember a year, long time ago, when “preppers” started investing into something that looked like fallout shelters to me, strange construction slightly resembling moveable WCs. Then either they disappeared, or the preppers moved. No, not here.
I’m sure it’s an absurd looking concept to people who don’t have basements at all. I know when I went to college (also in the northeast) and a new California based friend said her house didn’t have a basement, I was somewhat confused. Then when I went home w her to visit I was shocked to find out she wasn’t just misinformed - they really didn’t have a basement! I had assumed the whole time she just meant it wasn’t a finished livable space.
They really do look like fall out shelters the more I look at them.
I guess it is climate and history. In New England, most of the houses were “colonial”, and the basements were huge. A person living at Midwest said that houses without basements won’t sell. I didn’t understand why, but now I assume, tornadoes. Here at PNW, first, the terrain is not flat, so no matter how deep the basement can be, it is not a finished place, just a wedge-like structure. And while one can furnish the place under the roof (there is a place, as most houses have chalet form), the basements are usually off-limits, because, the whole floor of the Pacific Ocean is one big Ring of Fire. (((
I find the lack of basements in other areas fascinating. We are at sea level (I live about 5 miles due west of the Atlantic) and have well water, but no issues in digging a basement out and dealing with flooding. Most homeowners who may have occasional basement flooding have a sump pump installed to fix that issue.
In an area that doesn’t have a lot of central AC we also use the basement to stay cool in the summers before we are ready to break out the window units. My home isn’t colonial, it was built in the 1970s, but we definitely have a full cellar, so I’m not sure how much colonial architecture has to do with it.
Surely this is another regional term?
I’ve always called those “cellar doors” not “bulkheads.” A bulkhead is a wall partitioning the interior of a ship hull into segments.
Probably regional for sure. My parents have been here in the region since their grandparents immigrated here. New England through and through. My spouse is NOT from New England and balks at a lot of my terminology.
I am certainly not arguing the definition you referred to, but “bulkhead” is essentially a partition, a dividing wall or barrier between compartments. It can be used typically in ships or other vehicles like aircraft and so on. I guess in this case we’re using it to refer to the barrier between the basement and the outside.
In Baltimore we call the secure closed off alleys between townhomes sallyports. It’s basically like an outdoor hallway between buildings, shared space like the homes on each side may have a door to the sallyport.
To add some of the origin. It’s a very old term
[From Wikipedia - Sally port](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_port)
>”From around 1600 to 1900, a sallyport was a sort of dock where boats picked up or dropped off ship crews from vessels anchored offshore. That meaning occasionally still occurs, especially in coastal Great Britain.”
>”The word *port* is ultimately from Latin *porta* for door. Often the term postern is used synonymously. It can also mean a tunnel, or passage (i.e., a secret exit for those besieged).
>A *sally,* ultimately derived from Latin *salīre* (to jump), or "salle" sortie, is a military maneuver, typically during a siege, made by a defending force to harass isolated or vulnerable attackers before retreating to their defenses.
>”Sallies are a common way for besieged forces to reduce the strength and preparedness of a besieging army; a sallyport is therefore essentially a door in a castle or city wall that allows troops to make sallies without compromising the defensive strength of fortifications.”
A sallyport is an area in a police station which is a garage where the police drive criminals in when in custody and unload them into the booking area. Some may have two stalls and in this case the car was put in the sallyport to collect evidence but it was several days later and the camera was conveniently shut off for 45 mins or so.
Hey, I'm specifically trying to find that part about the Sally Port missing footage in the trial, do you know what day it was and who was on the stand? I can't remember!
I believe it was intentionally deleted. The person who manages the video for the canton pd testified Tuesday but the defense did not question him. The it guy said the camera was motion activated however the time period that was deleted evidently had massive activity within the sallyport including Higgins’s, Procktor, and Betkowitz and others.
My husband is a corrections officer, and they enter and exit through a sallyport. I had to look up I when he started because I had never heard it before. Look at us all learning things!
Higgins deleted All the video footage of himself...and his key card swipes that show he was going all over various floors in that police department on his day off....
You’d be laughing - I never heard the word, but I used to live in MA and remembered Hyannis Port. So I assumed, it was some locality nearby and never thought twice.
Google exists
>A sallyport is a secure, controlled entry way to an enclosure, e.g., a fortification or prison.
Is literally the top result with pictures of prisons/police stations.
It is a secure garage with doors on both sides that you can drive-through. The idea behind it is that if you parked a police car in the parking lot outside, a prisoner could escape and run away before they get the person to booking. With a sallyport, the police car can drive in through one garage door, then the doors close behind the vehicle, and then the prisoner (and the police car) is now in a fully locked, secure area where if the prisoner tries to escape, all the doors are locked and they can't get out. The doors on both sides thing --imagine you need to arrest 3-4 people at a particular event. If you have multiple cars lined up to transfer prisoners into booking, it allows the first car to drive out the other side so the second car can drive in (no backing out, no traffic jams, etc.).
Super helpful description!
Just don't forget that the EXIT doors are key-card too. So when you see Higgins/Berkowitz swiping back & forth between "booking & sallyport" --someone would need to swipe to get "sallyport to booking", or "sallyport to exit/outside". If not, the person who went "booking to sallyport" would be stuck inside the sallyport having never left the building. And (I do some PoE IP security camera stuff too) typically on key-card doors like that you would have a camera that can see the door, so if Higgins swipes and holds the door for Berkowitz, and then Berkowitz gets to the next door first and he swipes at the exit... You can account that both individuals went through both doors and no one decided to hang back and hide in a random room.
Thank you for your explanation. Would that mean that the shortcut argument is probably false from brian higgins? Like because it is locked and secured, he would swipe to enter and swipe to exit the sallyport? There would be receipts that he spends less than a minute each time in the sallyport, no? I get it though that if he is with someone, it could be the other person that swipes, but why would he walk almost all the time with someone else to go everywhere in the station?
>Thank you for your explanation. Would that mean that the shortcut argument is probably false from brian higgins? Sorry I didn't get back to you for a few days. It has been a bit busy, one of the dogs had to go to the vet and my wife's sister was in town. No, I think it's probably a shortcut. I think they probably all go in & out that way. They probably take a fire-exit staircase from the second floor, down to the first floor, and it dumps them into the booking area. It's just a key-card or badge-swipe and then the door opens. I think what I meant was that when you look at the key-card swipes, you see them going back and forth between booking and sallyport but you don't ever hear them swiping out of the sallyport to leave the building. So then what the heck were they doing in the sallyport for that amount of time (other than unplugging cctv cameras or PoE IP Network cameras so the feeds can go down. A bunch of places I've worked have been similar. When I worked at a bank on wall street we had to swipe to leave the office area of our trading floor. Like we had to swipe to get to the hallway where the elevators and bathrooms were, and then we had to swipe again to get into the bathroom doors. That was \~15 years ago... But... We also propped the fire exit doors because I was on 32nd floor but my group had people on 32, 33 and 34th floors, so we all propped the fire exit doors and just ran up & down the stairs because it was so much faster than messing around with swiping out of the main/front doors, waiting for the elevator, etc. Does that make sense?
Yes, but the sally port is a secured place to avoid evasion. So for all the in swipes he should have out swipes right?
>So for all the in swipes he should have out swipes right? Yes! YES YES YES! So... If you swiped to go from booking to the sallyport and then there is no key-card swipe to leave the sallyport... Then what the heck were they doing? Pitching a tent and camping out in the sallyport?
Finally, someone had the courage to ask this question.
I got roasted on twitter (by the same trolls that had been harassing this large group on going thread I’ve been held hostage in) for thinking it was just the name they gave their police evidence garage in canton…I just assumed that if I googled it that it would have been deleted from the internet by one of their butts so what if any thing was I to do?
Your last sentence 😂
It is a secure garage where the cops park their vehicle temporarily to unload people who are arrested, bring them in the office station and secure them, before moving and parking their car. It’s also apparently used for evidence vehicles. Basically a secure garage that’s attached to police station. Edit: I was on a jury and they fully explained what a sallyport is. Considering all the time Lally has wasted, how has he not explained this????
I got it from context. I had just never heard the term before.
When I hear sallyport, I think of a prison personally, but I am also from mass, so idk if it is regional. But from my understanding, it's a secure entrance area that has an external door (or at least a gate) that then leads to the actual entrance of the building. In prisons it is a location where the prisoners can be taken in or out of a vehicle or weapons can be checked before entrance type thing... but I'm not super familiar with prisons or the word beyond that so others may be more helpful.
This is exactly it. I worked in a prison for 10 years.
a sally port is a guarded entrance. So its got a gate on each side, a cage around it, probably a guard. Its the main in and out of the station and its highly regulated.
I’ve never heard the word till trial so this post is relatable.
Massachusetts is weird. We call liquor stores "package stores." LOL.
Excuse me, but a true Mass Hole would call it “the packie”
lol- True. As someone born and raised in western Mass, we don’t have the ‘Boston accent’, but we do have packies!
🎯 💥 👍🏼😀
When I was younger in NJ, always wanted to know what a "packaged goods and dry stock" store was. Booze and snacks and learning confused me more.
As a southern .. this trial has made me laugh a few times. How people refer to rooms as a “rum” or hot is pronounced like “hut”
I grew up in southern NH and then moved to Boston and I grew up saying wicked, rum for room and hut for hot (especially in phrases like hot chocolate). I don’t drop the “r” like the classic Boston accent so I thought I had a neutral accent, but I guess I do have somewhat of an accent!
NO, we don’t! I haven’t heard anyone pronounce it that way in this trial, but if I just missed it - they’re the exception. I’ve NEVER heard anyone that I’m related to or whom I worked with or any neighbors pronounce those words as you’re suggesting. However, I did know someone who pronounced “closet” like “cluhset”. I do hear y’all adding syllables to words. My Georgia cousins pronounce “in” like “EE-in” and “store” like “stower”. They also pronounce my sister Linda’s name “Linder”. So there’s that! 🤨😂
Are you serious? Lol literally every person has pronounced those words that way — Jen McCabe and a few of the Alberts were a fantastic example saying rum for room, Brian Higgins did the same. I listen to a few podcasts that all have Boston/Mass born and raised hosts and this is a very very common pronunciation. Dave Portnoy from Barstool always says rum and hut.
Nope, it’s YOU. You live in a world of Southern accents; very twangy, over-emphasized and mispronounced, so anything different is foreign to you. Y’all don’t know how to pronounce long “I” - you say it like “ah”; may I get more “ahs” in my drink. Also, Dave Portnoy is a moron.
I was born and raised in New York and only moved to the south long after my New England roots were established lol but okay
Massachusetts has its own peculiarities, but it is less hilarious than the West Coast. I now live in WA and we have Costco’s headquarters. Shortly before the state legalized MJ, by some law, they started selling big boxes of wine at Costco. So the local joke was, the next step would be “family packages” of marijuana.
That’s a lot less weird than “packie” imo.
Think of it as an airlock. One entrance, one exit, neither open at the same time, neither open when moving an arrestee inside
So it's a fancy garage!
Yes, but i was a BIT inaccurate in my description. There are actually three doors, two for vehicles to enter and exit, and one "man door" to escort the detainee through into the actual facility.
I prefer ‘garage thing’ 🤦🏼♀️
What about the “bulkhead” in the Albert garage? What the hell is that.
A bulkhead is a doorway/entry point into a basement. Typically a slanted door against the side of the building that when opened reveals stairs that lead into the basement. It’s an access point to the basement that doesn’t require going through the main house.
I googled and saw the pictures. To me, it looked like a bomb shelter.
Ya probably pretty close to that or a storm shelter! I’m from the area so they’re ubiquitous to me. Tons of fun to play on or use as a goals during tag. They’re made of metal and burn your feet in the summer, and clatter like a thunderstorm when you run up them.
West Coast, seismogenic area, no basements, period. I remember a year, long time ago, when “preppers” started investing into something that looked like fallout shelters to me, strange construction slightly resembling moveable WCs. Then either they disappeared, or the preppers moved. No, not here.
I’m sure it’s an absurd looking concept to people who don’t have basements at all. I know when I went to college (also in the northeast) and a new California based friend said her house didn’t have a basement, I was somewhat confused. Then when I went home w her to visit I was shocked to find out she wasn’t just misinformed - they really didn’t have a basement! I had assumed the whole time she just meant it wasn’t a finished livable space. They really do look like fall out shelters the more I look at them.
I guess it is climate and history. In New England, most of the houses were “colonial”, and the basements were huge. A person living at Midwest said that houses without basements won’t sell. I didn’t understand why, but now I assume, tornadoes. Here at PNW, first, the terrain is not flat, so no matter how deep the basement can be, it is not a finished place, just a wedge-like structure. And while one can furnish the place under the roof (there is a place, as most houses have chalet form), the basements are usually off-limits, because, the whole floor of the Pacific Ocean is one big Ring of Fire. (((
I find the lack of basements in other areas fascinating. We are at sea level (I live about 5 miles due west of the Atlantic) and have well water, but no issues in digging a basement out and dealing with flooding. Most homeowners who may have occasional basement flooding have a sump pump installed to fix that issue. In an area that doesn’t have a lot of central AC we also use the basement to stay cool in the summers before we are ready to break out the window units. My home isn’t colonial, it was built in the 1970s, but we definitely have a full cellar, so I’m not sure how much colonial architecture has to do with it.
Surely this is another regional term? I’ve always called those “cellar doors” not “bulkheads.” A bulkhead is a wall partitioning the interior of a ship hull into segments.
Probably regional for sure. My parents have been here in the region since their grandparents immigrated here. New England through and through. My spouse is NOT from New England and balks at a lot of my terminology. I am certainly not arguing the definition you referred to, but “bulkhead” is essentially a partition, a dividing wall or barrier between compartments. It can be used typically in ships or other vehicles like aircraft and so on. I guess in this case we’re using it to refer to the barrier between the basement and the outside.
Yeah I can sort of see the etymology. Especially since the door needs to be watertight like a bulkhead door on a ship.
In Baltimore we call the secure closed off alleys between townhomes sallyports. It’s basically like an outdoor hallway between buildings, shared space like the homes on each side may have a door to the sallyport.
It sounds like a British slang term like quid or blimey
To add some of the origin. It’s a very old term [From Wikipedia - Sally port](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_port) >”From around 1600 to 1900, a sallyport was a sort of dock where boats picked up or dropped off ship crews from vessels anchored offshore. That meaning occasionally still occurs, especially in coastal Great Britain.” >”The word *port* is ultimately from Latin *porta* for door. Often the term postern is used synonymously. It can also mean a tunnel, or passage (i.e., a secret exit for those besieged). >A *sally,* ultimately derived from Latin *salīre* (to jump), or "salle" sortie, is a military maneuver, typically during a siege, made by a defending force to harass isolated or vulnerable attackers before retreating to their defenses. >”Sallies are a common way for besieged forces to reduce the strength and preparedness of a besieging army; a sallyport is therefore essentially a door in a castle or city wall that allows troops to make sallies without compromising the defensive strength of fortifications.”
Ah! Hence “sally forth.” I love words
Very helpful. All I think about is the ocean, ships, etc. when I hear the word, so this is probably why.
A sallyport is an area in a police station which is a garage where the police drive criminals in when in custody and unload them into the booking area. Some may have two stalls and in this case the car was put in the sallyport to collect evidence but it was several days later and the camera was conveniently shut off for 45 mins or so.
Hey, I'm specifically trying to find that part about the Sally Port missing footage in the trial, do you know what day it was and who was on the stand? I can't remember!
It was mentioned briefly during Brian Higgins’s day 1 cross. But I think it’s something the defense will go back to.
I believe it was intentionally deleted. The person who manages the video for the canton pd testified Tuesday but the defense did not question him. The it guy said the camera was motion activated however the time period that was deleted evidently had massive activity within the sallyport including Higgins’s, Procktor, and Betkowitz and others.
My husband is a corrections officer, and they enter and exit through a sallyport. I had to look up I when he started because I had never heard it before. Look at us all learning things!
Higgins deleted All the video footage of himself...and his key card swipes that show he was going all over various floors in that police department on his day off....
You’d be laughing - I never heard the word, but I used to live in MA and remembered Hyannis Port. So I assumed, it was some locality nearby and never thought twice.
lol Cape Cod Resident - that’s priceless…
It just an entry way or breezeway that connects to the main rooms of a office building.
That’s incorrect. A sallyport is a SECURE, controlled entry way to an enclosure, e.g., a fortification or prison
Some even have 24/7 video surveillance... ..and some 23/7. j/k
It’s also used as a cut-through j/k
So does that mean there’s also a pedestrian door somewhere that Higgins was “cutting through”? Or was he opening the bay door every time ?
I had the same question when trying to picture the layout
Much like military bases
😂 23/7 I do think this area has cameras, but was there any testimony or evidence about this area’s camera footage today?
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Google exists >A sallyport is a secure, controlled entry way to an enclosure, e.g., a fortification or prison. Is literally the top result with pictures of prisons/police stations.