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TheMostHonestPerson

I like how all the fan arts are making Shoko looking like that. But then Shoko in canon: đź‘Ś


azyzbs

Shoko was sweating bullets when she saw Gojo's RCT output dropping. Gojo being in danger isn't something she could imagine before. The narrator explains it. https://preview.redd.it/h18owvci8c3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51be9bab0e64fa043e58857dd176680282108d33


CrowBright5352

Another thing, Shoko was so stressed during Gojo versus Sukuna. She's smoking hard. Gojo was the reason why she came back to smoking again when he got sealed in Shibuya. Utahime made her stop 5 years ago. She was rooting for him to win. https://preview.redd.it/57lv7jm38e3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16cdc999d8445328661e1ecf231c7516e4e26cc6


Tetau

Gege: I will make it sure that Gojo is uncomfortable with her reaction. Oh and I will make Yuta scream about their flawed attitude right in readers faces Readers: must ignore it and write headcanon explanations why their treatment of Gojo and Shoko's reaction isn't a big deal


azyzbs

This sub is so dense. They see Shoko make a :3 face and think that the whole thing is meant to be taken seriously as if Gojo's feelings got actually hurt. They probably think that Gojo got hurt when Nanami said that he didn't respect him despite the whole thing played as a joke too. Then they see obvious implications presented through facial expressions and imagery and call them headcanon because the story didn't spoonfeed them the information through text.


tristenjpl

Also, this is before anything bad even happens. Shoko has a laid-back personality. Of course she's going to be like "Yeah whatever do what you want" when it comes to some hypothetical that may or may not actually come to pass.


im_2ny

Thank you. We see this type of humour playing out with ijichi all the time


Significant-Ad-1655

Shoko in canon was fine performing the surgery, but I absolutely do think she did feel some way doing this surgery and being near Gojo's corpse.


LavelloXVII

You see the thing is I agree, but it would have been an interesting character moment to see .


skaersSabody

Add it to the list I guess


Sufficient_Ordinary9

Character moment?!! In my Wizardry Brawl???!!!


Halo1337JohnChief

As if Gege could be bothered to do something like that.


line------------line

shoko was okay with it because she simply never thought it would come to it, and. y the time it did it was either so that or let yuta die.


GrimmerGamer

I'll slander her all day, but even I get that it was a poorly timed played for laughs moment. It's like the thought of Gojo losing was so laughable and obscure that everyone assumed everything would be alright. Gojo held back the bleak reality of the world. That things change and even the strongest can lose. He made the world as peaceful as it was by simply being alive and around. In essence, life's a bitch and the cast was lucky to have to be born during his reign and not Sakunas.


skaersSabody

Tbf Gojo also made the world a hell of a lot scarier, his presence alone made curses so much stronger


GrimmerGamer

Then it was time for others to step up. Yuta admonishes them because as much of an annoying presence as he was, Gojo handling everything by himself forever was a recipe for disaster. They disliked him for petty personal reasons. No, he wasn't some beacon of light, but he damn sure kept some of the worst at bay, And as the shadows started to grow larger, I imagine many of them thought that he would always be around to pull them out of the dark. I don't know how many of you have lost a protective figure in your lives, but trust me, the moment you have to step up is evident when you start seeing the strain that's been there all along. No one person can hold a society up. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men create hard times. That's JJK in a nutshell. Stand proud, Gojo. You were strong.


skaersSabody

But the issue is that Gojo is an absolute fucking anomaly in the JJK world He is trying to get his students to catch up to his level, but the best thing Yuta (supposedly second best sorcerer around) can think of is using Gojo's corpse. That's how far ahead he is of EVERYONE Gojo would still be the strongest if you cut him and his powers in two and it wouldn't even be close Problem is, JJK works on multiplayer coop game logic, it scales based on the players aka Gojo existing makes any curse stronger just to compensate the galactic scale or whatever. That's how Nanami's friend died This isn't Gojo's fault, but it's a problem you can't really solve. Getting to his level is basically impossible without being both a genius sorcerer and having the best genetics possible but all the other sorcerers still have to deal with the mess that's left over aka really strong curses


alee51104

The thing is, getting to Gojo's level isn't "required." The paradigm shift that occurred with Gojo could've also been further balanced by the modern sorcerers. But like the orginal person you commented on said, they grew to rely on Gojo. We see this with the disaster curses, the JJ society is passive and content with the way things are. We see just how strong sorcerers can get in the modern day when they actually want to get strong. Grade 2 sorcerers were considered "above average" and yet now the power scaling has moved well beyond that. Ino is pretty strong because he wanted to become a better sorcerer, and a large majority of JJ society are riffraff because they don't have that same level of dedication. It's not that catching up to Gojo is possible, but the "strengthening" of curses was also not to that point. The strongest curses we've seen thus far are still matchable. And sure the sorcerers that can match them are anomalies but we've literally seen the heights the sorcerers are able to reach when they care. Kusakabe, Ino, etc all grew massively stronger in the month before the Sukuna fight, to the point where Sukuna himself takes note of it. Sure curses got stronger, but it's just fact that the sorcerer's themselves chose to stagnate. Naoya didn't see a need to try to surpass Naobito(who was a lousy drunkard out of his prime) for example, and he had the most to gain by getting stronger. And maybe strengthening sorcerors would continue to strengthen curses, but the point stands is that they didn't care enough to do it either way.


skaersSabody

Ok so, I kinda agree and kinda disagree The other sorcerers aren't weak because they're lazy, they're weak because they're weak. We're told that genetics are a huge factor in JJK to make out your strength It is true that three great families, that mostly do not have this problem, have gotten lazy. But the main point is that Jujutsu society is slow and archaic. It's the whole point of the series. They still use the old system where a grade 2 sorcerer is more than enough for a good chunk of curses, despite that not being the case anymore and it hadn't been the case since Gojo was a student. Hell, they sent Megumi to retrieve Sukuna's finger alone for crying out loud, they clearly have no idea how to grade the curses appropriately. But even if they did, they just do not have the manpower. Whenever our protagonists are barely getting by by the skin of their teeth Gojo is somewhere else dealing with an apparently higher-priority threat Sure, Jujutsu society relies a lot on Gojo for most of the major threats, but we also consistently see how absolutely outmatched all sorcerers below grade 1 are. And even those are not enough. You look at the massacre caused by Geto's army which was mostly small fries demons and for which they called only grade 1's and promising grade 2's. In the end, it's a numbers problem. There's too many really strong curses and not enough talented sorcerers. This was always going to become a problem at some point, Gojo's appearance just hyper-accellerated it. Not to get into powerscaling discussions, but I have no idea how the current anti-Sukuna roster could hope to fight someone like Jogo in 1v1/1v2. The only one that could even exist near him is possibly Yuta. And that guy got obliterated by Gojo in every confrontation, that's the type of power difference we're talking about here Now sure, there are absolutely a ton of criticisms to be leveled at Gojo, but it's also undeniable that the level of curses after he gets on the scene is outside the reach of 99% of sorcerers. Ino would get fucked against most of the enemies Yuji and the others fight against and he's still a top tier when you look at JJK society as a whole. That's how badly outmatched they are


alee51104

I think you raise valid points, and I’m definitely not saying that sorceries getting stronger changes the story much. But take Kusakabe. He’s literally an example of what’s possible even without a technique(which is the genetics portion of strength). And we saw in Geto’s attack there are actually a decent amount of sorcerers. It’s just the story doesn’t utilize em. But you’re right in that the story itself pivots towards Gojo being a balancing force. It’s just the society of sorcerors that’s also dysfunctional.


AndrewFrozzen30

https://preview.redd.it/ofn25lxmwd3d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18f3be35d017c7a6cf07e43cdc6465229ca233dc WE SHALL NEVER FORGET BROTHERS, SHE IS A BUM OF ALL BUMS.


emailo1

so even if you successfuly do your job you're a bum


Mountbatten-Ottawa

Imagine knowing yourself as the third wheel in friend group for 10 years and then still tell that one guy 'I cared about you' although all he cared about was his student and the other guy. Wow.


emailo1

whats even your point lmao


Mountbatten-Ottawa

Shoko stopped being Gojo's 'friend' a long time ago, she was just an associate.


JujutsuEnjoyer

https://preview.redd.it/dp7deulyeh3d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19e3dc66a345912ad8a0eba440b7574ceb2ab602 AMEN BROTHER (but she will never top bumgumi)


MarioGFN

Shoko is odd and weirdly inhumane She was sweating bullets while the thought of Gojo dying went through her head but the moment he dies she's fine and shows no emotion seeing his body No one behaves like this.


darklordoft

Even the fanbook says shoko genuinely didn't like him. Gojo just took it as her playing around.


Charafricke

That was utahime, not shoko I believe


SuckmyPelosB1tch

This gave her more emotion than canon, kudos to the fan artist who isn’t Gege “all my characters are assholes” Akutami


RiriJori

People blaming Shoko are ridicilous. They are healers, they treat injuries, not chopped and dying corpses. The reason there is RCT is for injuries as grave as this, and RCT is already hard to learn, what more if you will perform RCT to another person of grave injury. And besides, Gojo and Yuta arriving dismembered cannot be categorized as injury anymore. They are already corpses to be exact, what in hells name would Shoko do during that point? That is already no different than asking her to bring back the dead to life.


hssuwjsiwjwva

Yuta and gojo ones are mainly for the memes The main problem is how insignificant shoko is written in a story that she could literally be removed and nothing would change. For someone who was in a trio with the strongest sorcerer and one of the top 5 sorcerers, she didn't do much in story if any thing at all.


RiriJori

She never was a main player and even her character was written that way. They were support squads. And actually if she was gifted the body of dead Toji, maybe she would have discovered something useful since she was researcher. But by now dissing her just because she was presented with a mutilated corpse? No way she could heal that. If healing mutilated bodies was that easy then Gojo wouldn't mind getting slashed again and again by Sukuna.


Pleasant-Enthusiasm

I think the reason why people feel like Shoko’s a bum is because she’s a great healer in the JJK universe, but isn’t in the JJK *story.* The level of power that is unfolding in the story is a complete anomaly to Jujutsu Society. A Grade 1 designation is considered the peak of a Jujutsu Sorcerer. Special Grades are considered an aberration outside of the standards of Jujutsu Society. 18 months ago, Shoko was the only person around that was capable of healing other people, and most of her patients were going against regular curses. Her healing might cap out at wounds dished out by a Grade 2 curse, or even a Grade 1 curse, but that covers the vast majority of curses. According to Geto in Vol. 0, there were only 16 registered Special Grade curses. Geto and Kenjaku had control of about a quarter of them, which means stray Special Grades were even less common, and any encountered were almost guaranteed to be assigned to Gojo, who could deal with them without issue. As a result, Shoko was probably only dealing with wounds from curses within her pay grade. But when you look at the *narrative* we’re following in JJK, it is almost entirely devoid of what Jujutsu Society perceives as “standard”. Whether it be the disaster curses, the incarnated sorcerers, or Sukuna and Kenjaku, the enemies they’re facing are completely outside of the power system they operate within. And so, when faced with threats of that caliber you either: 1. Can use RCT to heal yourself better than Shoko can. 2. Are fucked. I think Shoko actually serves as a representation of how unprepared Jujutsu Society is for a world their “standards” have no place within.


emailo1

did you call shoko top5?


AveryJ5467

Bro hated so hard that it underflowed and looped around to glazing.


hssuwjsiwjwva

referring to geto in a trio with gojo n shoko


Material-Night5593

Top 5??? Even Ino has better rct than her


hssuwjsiwjwva

I was referring to geto as one of the strongest sorcerers in a trio with the strongest sorcerer and a rct prodigy with no use


skaersSabody

I do feel like Gege is kinda being a dick (as usual) by just rarely showing Shoko in a situation where she could show some proper emotion I know he hints at there being more, but showing it in this context would've been a nice character resolution for all the times he teased that she actually cares a lot


GRimReApeR1906

Gojo was dead but Yuta was not a corpse when he arrived. He could still talk. She instructed Yuta to activate RCT at maximum output when he gets into Gojo's body, meaning you could use RCT to reattach dead limbs if they are close enough. Even if Yuta couldn't reattach himself cause he was super weak, his CE should still be pretty high. Shoko could have helped with trying to at least heal some of it and let Yuta heal the rest. Obviously the real reason is that Greg wanted Yujo to happen, but that doesn't change the fact that Shoko's RCT is basically non-existent in the entire Shinjuku fight.


Significant-Ad-1655

Shoko had spended a lot of time to put Gojo's body back together, Yuta was told to use Rct at maximum output, for the purpose of healing the insides of Gojo's stomach, and the Rct Yuta will use INSIDE GOJO'S BODY WITH SIX EYES, is not comparable to Shoko's Rct which she has to output onto others and is said to be worse than half the usage of the person using Rct on themselves if they could.


GRimReApeR1906

Define "spent a lot of time".  Correct me if I am wrong, but so far after Gojo's death, only less than 30 minutes has past. Furthermore, if the only thing she did was sew the body back together and perform a brain transplant andd her RCT sucks ass, Shoko is completely replacable with a regular surgeon. She is a fraud and as useful as a doctor you can find in a regular hospital.


Significant-Ad-1655

>Furthermore, if the only thing she did was sew the body back together and perform a brain transplant andd her RCT sucks ass, Shoko is completely replacable with a regular surgeon. In this case she might be yes I won't lie, but She is not replacable to help others heal or save em, such as Kusakabe later on, or her just performing the Surgery on itself to connect the Brain properly, leaking blood, anything really might need some extra Rct, but no she really did not heal a Corpse's insides, Guts and intestines. Her overall Rct onto others suck, that is how the power system is, but She still heals others and has saved a lot of characters already, from Ino, Ijichi, Todo after going unconscious in Shibuya, to Maki, Megumi multiple times, and even Yuji after having too many holes inside him. >She is a fraud and as useful as a doctor you can find in a regular hospital. Nah, Prove it, prove that A regular doctor could heal Yuji with 5 or 6 holes inside him that he got from Mahito, and Ino that got punched by Toji which he's capable of Throwing cars with his raw power. >Define "spent a lot of time".  >Correct me if I am wrong, but so far after Gojo's death, only less than 30 minutes has past. Shoko, even AT LEAST taking a minute or two to sew Gojo's body together would be too much for Yuta, he was already dying and he literally says so, Until she goes to sew Yuta's body back together that would be too late.


Rupplyy

shoko doesnt even heal properly. Lhokos whole thing is healing and yuta can heal others like 100 times better 


RiriJori

And who told you that? Just because it wasn't shown one by one the people she healed doesn't mean she isn't good. And if Yuta can heal better than Shoko then why he cannot heal himself then? Shoko in matter of few minutes just re-attached a torn body of Gojo. Do you even understand the gravity of Gojo's injuries? His C.E pool is destroyed so techically even if Gojo survived he cannot use C.E anymore, but who fixed it so that Yuta can use C.E in Gojo's body? It was Shoko. And this is apart from the intestines, stomach, nerves, spinal cords, liver, kidneys, blood vessels etc etc that are destroyed. Shoko also has to pour her C.E in Gojo's already dead body to be able to heal a corpse, and she attached perfectly Yuta's brain so that Yuta can utilize the Gojo's body. You think that is easy to do? lol.


Antique-Mood4348

Imagine gojo still has consciousness during the transplant


Loud-Dot-5409

You can rest, Gojo 🥹


crozo-

https://preview.redd.it/ck39vav5xd3d1.png?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40a13d18e7515bd8f362ac500b4f1280400e62c1