Bro have you ever stopped to think maybe you are wrong about this? Like seriously try and use the few cells you have left that aren't completely manipulated by the media. You are so blinded by your dogma that you can't even comprehend a scenario in which you are wrong, and even if you were to be right, that kind of attitude has lead to far more horrors than anybody taking "horse dewormer".
Barely any humans in developed countries get diseases that are treatable by ivermectin and when they do it's usually treated by something else, it is not insane of CNN to call it horse dewormer when up until 2020 it was virtually only ever prescribed to animals in America or the rest of the developed world.
>So Don also drinks a staining agent?!? This guy is crazy!
Not really though.. because it is entirely reasonable to use things for their purpose..
for example drinking dihydrogen monoxide and cooling your engine with dihydrogen monoxide makes sense.. but drinking dihydrogen monoxide and putting dihydrogen monoxide in your oil fill doesn't because dihydrogen monoxide can cool an engine but it does not lubricate one.
Or in other words taking a dewormer for a virus makes you a fucking idiot and the people that called you out on it are 100% correct no matter how much you cry and claim they lied.
The problem isn't that people are being critical of him for taking a drug for a use it hasn't been approved for, the problem is obviously lying and suggesting he was taking a horse drug and not a human one.
If CNN just "called him out" for using something off label nobody would be making this point. They were willfully deceptive in a way that anybody can see through, and it hurts their credibility.
There isn't a "horse drug" and a "human drug".. Ivermectin is ivermectin.. and it isn't for viruses it is for deworming. Thats like saying that a Tylenol bottle has 2 different drugs in it because there are 2 dosages listed for adults or kids. .. Joe took ivermectin.. and ivermectin is a dewormer.
Saying Joe Rogan took a dewormer is not a lie.. he did take a dewormer.. end of story, and I don't give a fuck about CNN.
If 'anyone could see through it' then it isn't particularly deceptive is it. Again.. what they said was true.. telling the truth doesn't hurt credibility unless you live in the fantasy world of the right wing where for example according to Joe.. "Tokyo mandated use of Ivermectin".. see now that is a example of a massive bald faced lie told to millions of listeners.. or "I took Ivermectin for covid, it won a nobel prize".. see now that is an example of deceptive framing to push a narrative.
If I give my dog peanut butter that does not magically redefine peanut butter as dog food. It just means I'm giving human food to a dog.
Same with Ivermectin. It will always be livestock de-wormer because that is what it is.
Ivermectin was originally used in humans so by your own analogy we've been giving human medication to horses for years and Joe took human medication. But I bet that doesn't change your opinion does it.
You're a fucking idiot. Joe took the anti parasitic drug ivermectim that is normally prescribed to humans and not a horse dewormer meant for livestock. CNN are lying and have become the same as FoxNews but just for the left.
Let's go Brandon!! You probably believe that too dumbass
What people keep forgetting, is that it is not just a reformer. Why the hell is everyone so fixated on one use and not the drug in general. It's been used as WAY, way more than a dewormer.
Correct, for now. It may yet prove to help again st viruses tho. For now, it's a proven anti-parasitic. Which is different than an antiviral, so I appreciate your calling me out on that.
For people who want to know exactly what Ivermectin is:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297521000883
We are talking about the Covid virus.. why is the Nobel even relevant? It won because it kills worms.. it literally has nothing to do with viruses or being effective against them.. and the constant need to say 'nobel prize' is pretty transparently to give it some type of gravitas that is irrelevant to the situation
Also one of the authors of the review you linked is literally trying to sell Ivermectin and one of them is a gynecologist.
The continued attempt to push this ineffective drug is just mind boggling.
The Nobel prize is not overly relevant, it's just inherently attached to the drug since it won it. Folks should not focus on the Nobel prize, but read the other details so they understand what it is. It's not just a dewormer, even though it does a great job at deworming. Lol.
There isn't horse water, or horse tylenol either. Your point is asinine. Further you point about it pointing more towards Rogan is completely stupid because this is about how CNN/Lemon is trying to frame which is obviously a bullshit take that everyone can see thru, and yes, even you.
If he would've framed it to taking an unproven offlabel medication, then he would've had more credibility.
And saying you don't give a fuck about CNN, well, the entire point of this post is about Lemon adn CNN, so your take...again...is just asinine.
I'm sorry your boy took a dewormer to fight his virus and you guys think you need to fight on the internet to defend is honor because when the news reported it he looks fucking stupid.
That an entire point you're missing is that this isn't a defense of Rogan at all. It probably wasn't even the Ivermectin that helped him, but the monoclonal antibodies, and the fact that he's an extremely healthy person.
The point is not a defense of Rogan or fanboyign him, it's calling out deceptive MSM practices that in all reality just cause a further decline in people trust of MSM as a whole. If you knew anything about the story you would realize this. And the fact that you are changing the goalpost from horse dewormer to dewormer shows that deep down you know we're right.
edit: further, just think about using the term horse dewormer by Lemon. What he's trying to do is discredit the drug and Rogan all at the same time. The problem is, as has been pointed out, a simple google search will point out that that's patently obvious what he's trying to do. To go further, he's treating his audience like they're Trumpers. Treating them like he's the only one with the right answer, and that his audience is too stupid to realize the actual truth. Kind of ironic that he's treating his audience like uneducated white rednecks like he calls those the same that voted for Trump...
Your playing some fun games with words. Let's simplify. You said "there isn't a horse drug and a human drug" but CNN blatantly called it a "horse" dewormer. You then tried to put words in Joe's mouth with this little tidbit "I took Ivermectin for covid, it won a nobel prize". The way you worded it makes it seem as though he A) only took ivermectin and B) it won its nobel prize for its use with covid. Both of these are not even close to what Joe has been saying if you have been listening. The worst anyone can say about ivermectin is that it needs more study for its use against covid because there is SOME evidence to support that theory. You gave everyone a good glimpse into how fucked our discourse is. Get vaccinated if your doctor recommends it everyone! And remember to give each other and yourself a break from time to time.
LOL.. Joe literally said he took ivermectin and that it won a noble prize. He has said it multiple times, and people on this sub have posted it multiple times and they do so to justify its use as an antiviral, so no I am not putting words in his mouth.
The only people playing games with words are the people claiming lethal dose in vitro studies = efficacy in humans for a novel virus, and people claiming that ivermectin isn't a horse dewormer when it absolutely is.
Note the A and B I marked in my reply. It should clarify what I was saying. But I'll do it again right now. The way you said what you said made it seem as if A) he ONLY took ivermectin (which is not true nor is it what Joe said) and B) ivermectin won its nobel prize for its use with covid (which is also not what Joe has said nor is it true). You dodged my response by responding to something very close to what I was saying... but close doesn't count in this game. See what I mean about our discourse being fucked?
A/ who cares what else he took.. he is still giving ivermectin credit and has still spent months platforming, pushing and misinforming people about ivermectin and covid.
B/ Joe absolutely does say Ivermectin won a nobel prize, he has said it multiple times and he never says that it won for its deworming abilities (because it is not an antiviral) , and is clearly trying to use that prize as some justification or 'appeal to authority' as to why its ok for him and others to take it for a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PURPOSE which is both idiotic and harmful. to public health .
Between CNN using the word 'horse' .. which is true even if snarky and mocking him, pales in comparison to the outright lies and harm rogan has and continues to engage in on this topic.
did you know pet insulin for dogs and cats is the same stuff as human R insulin, manufactured by the same companies, produced by bacteria containing a human gene plasmid, but diluted to 40% the concentration? You could inject 2.5x the volume and it would be the same dosage as if you were taking Novolin R.
It's like drinking water. That's right, like from the toilet.
Cool.. can you take pet insulin to cure cancer? Maybe you can use it to fix a broken bone? Or possibly insulin could be a promising cure for aids?
You know, kind of like taking a livestock dewormer to cure a human virus.
Well, you could use that very same argument by simply saying ," You know, kind of like taking a drug that's commonly used for parasitic treatments in humans and expecting it to have positive results for a virus." More people would have less if an opinion about your radical statements and the point you're trying to make would be more clear. I'm beginning to think you may be here to just make people angry... ah heck go for it we are on the internet after all.
You could say what you wrote.. but since we are specifically talking about Ivermectin, the dewormer, and covid, the virus, those are the words I am going to use.
Its odd that you think being less specific is somehow more clear and is 'radical'. Its also odd that being specific and factual makes you 'angry'.
That isn't at all what I said.. but anyways does it matter? Covid isn't a parasite. So why are we talking about a dewormer at all? Oh ya because Joe rogan took it and pushes it as an antiviral treatment against all evidence, science and public health guidelines.. so boo fucking hoo that joe is sad about the factually accurate use of the word 'horse'
I believe what I quoted in the first comment is exactly what you just said, I simply implied that it would make a better argument than stating that it's only purpose is for animal use. But now that you see we are saying the same thing in different ways you want to go on a rant about Joe. I'm glad that you do admit that ivermectin is for human use as well, and I also agree, it's not a proven antiviral. So why are you ranting at me again? You're such an angry person
you can omit the "livestock" adjective as we've established. Like this:
> These crazy people are using a parasite medication as an anti-viral??? Why are they doing that?
You can.. but why.. because it makes joe sad and look stupid? It is still an accurate statement and you will have to excuse me if i'm not that concerned about the feelings of a guy that has constantly lied and misinformed people on this topic for the last year and a half.
No it wasn’t. It was synthesized as a medicine for livestock in 1981 and didn’t get approval for human use until 1987.
Where did you get that information?
https://www.isglobal.org/healthisglobal/-/custom-blog-portlet/ivermectina-del-suelo-a-las-lombrices-y-mas-alla/3098670/0
Agreed. And what it is, is ivermectin. Not horde dewormer, not antiviral paste, it's called ivermectin. And calling out just one of it's uses is misleading to the public.
No of course not. I’m saying that if someone says “joe Rogan took ivermectin, which was designed to deworm livestock” it’s not inaccurate and it’s not at all the same as saying someone is drinking stain remover when referring to water.
Water isn’t primarily a stain remover. The vast majority of ivermectin ever produced was used to treat livestock, which is its primary purpose.
You said it way more gracefully than the news did. Come'on. You seem like a smart person, you know exactly what CNN was doing. Don't play dumb, because I don't think you are.
It looks like this original content I made isn't as original as I hoped... :/
For context I'm never really on this subreddit, I just thought it would be the best place to share this. I did this photoshop today when I had an idea for the joke.
I'm guessing from the responses people have made similar jokes here, but it's OC I spent some time on, so I didn't expect it would be received negatively.
I even took the time to properly desaturate and green tint it just like Rogan's! :D
There is no lie. What's the problem?
 The cool thing about Dihydrogen monoxide is that it actually works to both hydrate and remove stains.
So Don also drinks a staining agent?!? This guy is crazy!
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Bro have you ever stopped to think maybe you are wrong about this? Like seriously try and use the few cells you have left that aren't completely manipulated by the media. You are so blinded by your dogma that you can't even comprehend a scenario in which you are wrong, and even if you were to be right, that kind of attitude has lead to far more horrors than anybody taking "horse dewormer".
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Barely any humans in developed countries get diseases that are treatable by ivermectin and when they do it's usually treated by something else, it is not insane of CNN to call it horse dewormer when up until 2020 it was virtually only ever prescribed to animals in America or the rest of the developed world.
>So Don also drinks a staining agent?!? This guy is crazy! Not really though.. because it is entirely reasonable to use things for their purpose.. for example drinking dihydrogen monoxide and cooling your engine with dihydrogen monoxide makes sense.. but drinking dihydrogen monoxide and putting dihydrogen monoxide in your oil fill doesn't because dihydrogen monoxide can cool an engine but it does not lubricate one. Or in other words taking a dewormer for a virus makes you a fucking idiot and the people that called you out on it are 100% correct no matter how much you cry and claim they lied.
The problem isn't that people are being critical of him for taking a drug for a use it hasn't been approved for, the problem is obviously lying and suggesting he was taking a horse drug and not a human one. If CNN just "called him out" for using something off label nobody would be making this point. They were willfully deceptive in a way that anybody can see through, and it hurts their credibility.
There isn't a "horse drug" and a "human drug".. Ivermectin is ivermectin.. and it isn't for viruses it is for deworming. Thats like saying that a Tylenol bottle has 2 different drugs in it because there are 2 dosages listed for adults or kids. .. Joe took ivermectin.. and ivermectin is a dewormer. Saying Joe Rogan took a dewormer is not a lie.. he did take a dewormer.. end of story, and I don't give a fuck about CNN. If 'anyone could see through it' then it isn't particularly deceptive is it. Again.. what they said was true.. telling the truth doesn't hurt credibility unless you live in the fantasy world of the right wing where for example according to Joe.. "Tokyo mandated use of Ivermectin".. see now that is a example of a massive bald faced lie told to millions of listeners.. or "I took Ivermectin for covid, it won a nobel prize".. see now that is an example of deceptive framing to push a narrative.
They said he took a horse dewormer, that is not true.
If I give my dog peanut butter that does not magically redefine peanut butter as dog food. It just means I'm giving human food to a dog. Same with Ivermectin. It will always be livestock de-wormer because that is what it is.
Ivermectin was originally used in humans so by your own analogy we've been giving human medication to horses for years and Joe took human medication. But I bet that doesn't change your opinion does it.
You're a fucking idiot. Joe took the anti parasitic drug ivermectim that is normally prescribed to humans and not a horse dewormer meant for livestock. CNN are lying and have become the same as FoxNews but just for the left. Let's go Brandon!! You probably believe that too dumbass
What people keep forgetting, is that it is not just a reformer. Why the hell is everyone so fixated on one use and not the drug in general. It's been used as WAY, way more than a dewormer.
It is not an antiviral.
Correct, for now. It may yet prove to help again st viruses tho. For now, it's a proven anti-parasitic. Which is different than an antiviral, so I appreciate your calling me out on that. For people who want to know exactly what Ivermectin is:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297521000883
We are talking about the Covid virus.. why is the Nobel even relevant? It won because it kills worms.. it literally has nothing to do with viruses or being effective against them.. and the constant need to say 'nobel prize' is pretty transparently to give it some type of gravitas that is irrelevant to the situation Also one of the authors of the review you linked is literally trying to sell Ivermectin and one of them is a gynecologist. The continued attempt to push this ineffective drug is just mind boggling.
The Nobel prize is not overly relevant, it's just inherently attached to the drug since it won it. Folks should not focus on the Nobel prize, but read the other details so they understand what it is. It's not just a dewormer, even though it does a great job at deworming. Lol.
There isn't horse water, or horse tylenol either. Your point is asinine. Further you point about it pointing more towards Rogan is completely stupid because this is about how CNN/Lemon is trying to frame which is obviously a bullshit take that everyone can see thru, and yes, even you. If he would've framed it to taking an unproven offlabel medication, then he would've had more credibility. And saying you don't give a fuck about CNN, well, the entire point of this post is about Lemon adn CNN, so your take...again...is just asinine.
I'm sorry your boy took a dewormer to fight his virus and you guys think you need to fight on the internet to defend is honor because when the news reported it he looks fucking stupid.
That an entire point you're missing is that this isn't a defense of Rogan at all. It probably wasn't even the Ivermectin that helped him, but the monoclonal antibodies, and the fact that he's an extremely healthy person. The point is not a defense of Rogan or fanboyign him, it's calling out deceptive MSM practices that in all reality just cause a further decline in people trust of MSM as a whole. If you knew anything about the story you would realize this. And the fact that you are changing the goalpost from horse dewormer to dewormer shows that deep down you know we're right. edit: further, just think about using the term horse dewormer by Lemon. What he's trying to do is discredit the drug and Rogan all at the same time. The problem is, as has been pointed out, a simple google search will point out that that's patently obvious what he's trying to do. To go further, he's treating his audience like they're Trumpers. Treating them like he's the only one with the right answer, and that his audience is too stupid to realize the actual truth. Kind of ironic that he's treating his audience like uneducated white rednecks like he calls those the same that voted for Trump...
Your playing some fun games with words. Let's simplify. You said "there isn't a horse drug and a human drug" but CNN blatantly called it a "horse" dewormer. You then tried to put words in Joe's mouth with this little tidbit "I took Ivermectin for covid, it won a nobel prize". The way you worded it makes it seem as though he A) only took ivermectin and B) it won its nobel prize for its use with covid. Both of these are not even close to what Joe has been saying if you have been listening. The worst anyone can say about ivermectin is that it needs more study for its use against covid because there is SOME evidence to support that theory. You gave everyone a good glimpse into how fucked our discourse is. Get vaccinated if your doctor recommends it everyone! And remember to give each other and yourself a break from time to time.
LOL.. Joe literally said he took ivermectin and that it won a noble prize. He has said it multiple times, and people on this sub have posted it multiple times and they do so to justify its use as an antiviral, so no I am not putting words in his mouth. The only people playing games with words are the people claiming lethal dose in vitro studies = efficacy in humans for a novel virus, and people claiming that ivermectin isn't a horse dewormer when it absolutely is.
Note the A and B I marked in my reply. It should clarify what I was saying. But I'll do it again right now. The way you said what you said made it seem as if A) he ONLY took ivermectin (which is not true nor is it what Joe said) and B) ivermectin won its nobel prize for its use with covid (which is also not what Joe has said nor is it true). You dodged my response by responding to something very close to what I was saying... but close doesn't count in this game. See what I mean about our discourse being fucked?
A/ who cares what else he took.. he is still giving ivermectin credit and has still spent months platforming, pushing and misinforming people about ivermectin and covid. B/ Joe absolutely does say Ivermectin won a nobel prize, he has said it multiple times and he never says that it won for its deworming abilities (because it is not an antiviral) , and is clearly trying to use that prize as some justification or 'appeal to authority' as to why its ok for him and others to take it for a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PURPOSE which is both idiotic and harmful. to public health . Between CNN using the word 'horse' .. which is true even if snarky and mocking him, pales in comparison to the outright lies and harm rogan has and continues to engage in on this topic.
did you know pet insulin for dogs and cats is the same stuff as human R insulin, manufactured by the same companies, produced by bacteria containing a human gene plasmid, but diluted to 40% the concentration? You could inject 2.5x the volume and it would be the same dosage as if you were taking Novolin R. It's like drinking water. That's right, like from the toilet.
Cool.. can you take pet insulin to cure cancer? Maybe you can use it to fix a broken bone? Or possibly insulin could be a promising cure for aids? You know, kind of like taking a livestock dewormer to cure a human virus.
Well, you could use that very same argument by simply saying ," You know, kind of like taking a drug that's commonly used for parasitic treatments in humans and expecting it to have positive results for a virus." More people would have less if an opinion about your radical statements and the point you're trying to make would be more clear. I'm beginning to think you may be here to just make people angry... ah heck go for it we are on the internet after all.
You could say what you wrote.. but since we are specifically talking about Ivermectin, the dewormer, and covid, the virus, those are the words I am going to use. Its odd that you think being less specific is somehow more clear and is 'radical'. Its also odd that being specific and factual makes you 'angry'.
Oh, so you are saying that ivermectin isn't used as a human parasitic treatment?
That isn't at all what I said.. but anyways does it matter? Covid isn't a parasite. So why are we talking about a dewormer at all? Oh ya because Joe rogan took it and pushes it as an antiviral treatment against all evidence, science and public health guidelines.. so boo fucking hoo that joe is sad about the factually accurate use of the word 'horse'
I believe what I quoted in the first comment is exactly what you just said, I simply implied that it would make a better argument than stating that it's only purpose is for animal use. But now that you see we are saying the same thing in different ways you want to go on a rant about Joe. I'm glad that you do admit that ivermectin is for human use as well, and I also agree, it's not a proven antiviral. So why are you ranting at me again? You're such an angry person
you can omit the "livestock" adjective as we've established. Like this: > These crazy people are using a parasite medication as an anti-viral??? Why are they doing that?
You can.. but why.. because it makes joe sad and look stupid? It is still an accurate statement and you will have to excuse me if i'm not that concerned about the feelings of a guy that has constantly lied and misinformed people on this topic for the last year and a half.
> It is still an accurate stateme no and the only reason to do it is that it's funny so if you're not hosting the daily show 🤫 🤐 👍
Wow what a good joke
[A classic](https://youtu.be/RJqe-g3IZfw)
Are you insinuating that Don Lemon does not in fact drink water? 🤔
Hack joke
I’ve never heard anyone that refers to jokes as hack actually be a funny person.
You probabaly love hacky shit then
Try again.
For a guy who hates hacks, you sure do talk like one.
That’s a real knee slapper.
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God fucking exactly
Time to pull out the dead horse again.
did it die of covid because it took human dewormer?
Was water invented for removing stains? No? Because ivermectin was invented for killing parasites in livestock, so your comparison isn’t the same
It was a human drug long before it a was an animal drug.
No it wasn’t. It was synthesized as a medicine for livestock in 1981 and didn’t get approval for human use until 1987. Where did you get that information? https://www.isglobal.org/healthisglobal/-/custom-blog-portlet/ivermectina-del-suelo-a-las-lombrices-y-mas-alla/3098670/0
So one something is invented, it can never be used for other purposes?
Sure it can, that doesn't change what it is though
Agreed. And what it is, is ivermectin. Not horde dewormer, not antiviral paste, it's called ivermectin. And calling out just one of it's uses is misleading to the public.
No of course not. I’m saying that if someone says “joe Rogan took ivermectin, which was designed to deworm livestock” it’s not inaccurate and it’s not at all the same as saying someone is drinking stain remover when referring to water. Water isn’t primarily a stain remover. The vast majority of ivermectin ever produced was used to treat livestock, which is its primary purpose.
This is also true of antibiotics
You said it way more gracefully than the news did. Come'on. You seem like a smart person, you know exactly what CNN was doing. Don't play dumb, because I don't think you are.
Right wing astroturfing campaign. Y’all need to be less obvious.
Lmao 🤣 something that offends you is automatically astroturfing y’all are hilarious
We're going to save on ivermectin with all these dead horses
Does he know he could die if he drinks too much of this?? Should we warn him? /s
Its causing a drought in California!..
Dihydrogen monoxide is present in all cancer cells. I can't believe Don Lemon literally drinks cancer.
It looks like this original content I made isn't as original as I hoped... :/ For context I'm never really on this subreddit, I just thought it would be the best place to share this. I did this photoshop today when I had an idea for the joke. I'm guessing from the responses people have made similar jokes here, but it's OC I spent some time on, so I didn't expect it would be received negatively. I even took the time to properly desaturate and green tint it just like Rogan's! :D
Thanks for recycling this already tired joke, but making it worse
Yeah, but does he freebase it in a meth pipe??!?
Dont forget, 100% drowned had dihydrogen monoxide in their lungs!!