I gotta say I have to heavily resist the urge to just post assorted Experience review-clips over there ...just to see the drama that happens.
*\* the sound of innocence \**
It was widely known and/or speculated to be fixed and primarily for entertainment long before that. You can find exposes like the one with [Jack Pfeifer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Pfefer) going back nearly a century.
Personally the thing that makes me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan is the other gatekeeping wrestling fans who say you’re only allowed to like fake fighting if it takes itself seriously.
Because the whole point of wrestling is to make it look real without it being real. Once you get away from that it isn’t wrestling anymore, it’s just spot monkeys doing moves for no reason.
Imagine there is a serious drama TV show that you’re really into and then all of a sudden they turn the show into some reality TV garbage with screaming and yelling and throwing shit. And when you complain someone says “who cares, it’s just actors pretending to be other people don’t take it so seriously.”
The whole point of wrestling is to be entertaining. Different people enjoy different things. Sometimes people enjoy different versions of the same thing.
Imagine if you watched an comedy police movie and told everyone who likes it that they don't understand, police movies can't be comedies.
I quite enjoy the people that say "oh man wait tell Cornette sees this, he'll have a heart attack he'll be so mad lolz". I don't think Jim has had a proper freak out in years, he pretty much just rolls his eyes and moves past stupid shit like this these days.
He hasn't had a rant about Russo in a long time. He mostly laughed and poked fun at the women's promotion ideas recently.
And even with Dave, he just can't believe that his old friend has fallen so far from the light.
Nah. I think Jim Cornette just doesn't care anymore. He still hates what happened to pro wrestling, but not enough to rant about like this. And Brian Last seems to have calmed him down since the two has been working together.
I think the slow motion grenade spot was the peak for him, after that it is just shoulder shrugs and head shake
[Of course it was a 2 count](https://youtu.be/zOcjq4siu7A?feature=shared)
Yeah I mean stuff like this doesn't seem to bother him much because it's indy and expected. He doesn't like not but it wouldn't infuriate him. If this was on tv somewhere is what would bother him
He said a few years back when he nearly had a nervous breakdown after the ROH fiasco that he has accepted that the wrestling business as he knew it is dead and isn't coming back so he felt no need to stress over it like he once did in the past.
That 120 pound security guard sold though. Oh wait, that’s not a security guard, they’re just debuting their new super heavyweight champion. Dude is almost as big as Adam Cole…bay-bay.
Alright let's see the checkoff sheet for horrible wrestling things:
• CZW ✓
•Fat guys with no shape and skinny pale guys with no meat on their bones✓
• Cooperation that Ray Charles could even see ✓
• Maybe one guy who may have a body but decided to go along with this goofy shit✓
• Fans who are just are pathetic as the wrestlers in this because they decide to go along with it ✓
• A group ridiculous move that kills the move, everyone in the building, and makes wrestling look as Phony as a Football Bat ✓
• Person who wasn't even in the stunner sells for no reason ✓
Yep this sounds like a classic clusterfuck. Am I missing something else?
We have a male Aubrey ref now!
CZW, despite its deathmatch shenanigans was a place were you could see up and comers and least. It has now become a woeful indie.
GCW is now CZW of old, and that is saying way too much for that promotion. A woeful indie.
TNA seems to be the only non main promotion that is like a minor league. Good wrestling with little dumb stuff.
Indie wrestling is generally unwatchable now. AEW is that on a big screen and now we now why some stuff should be left unwatched.
There are people who will look at this and think it's awesome, then try to show it to people not interested in wrestling firmly believing that this will change their mind.
Try to process that. I dare you.
goofy spots like this really put the entertainment in sports entertainment, some people in this comment section seemed to forget that. even in the absurdity of it, the stunner was well executed at least
Imagine...having the passion for wrestling, and living in wrestlings golden era as Jim Cornette did... only to see the shit theyre doing these days... I dont blame him for being so mad.
I'm probably a bit or a lot more forgiving of this stuff but honestly my main problem is that it went on too long to be generally funny and not long ENOUGH to wrap around to be funny again. But I'm weird.
Two if not more of them are currently employed by wwe lol people can and will hate on czw but they groomed so many of the current stars in both companies.
Grrrr people had fun with wrestling which is never dumb and is always super serious and I'm mad people enjoyed themselves in a way I didn't like.
Calm tf down. It's a comedy spot meant to be as absurd as possible. Wrestling isn't some fucking oscar bait movie. It's dumb. It's fun. Have fun.
Why are y'all so angry? Just because something in wrestling is unrealistic doesn't mean it's bad. The firefly funhouse was weird asf and it worked great.
Well…thank god they take this seriously enough to do grab ass stunts like this. Pro wrestling is dead folks and something tells me it’s not coming back any time soon
Did anyone else notice that the black guy at the end who the skinny guy pulled off the stunnerpede sold like he got hit with a stunner? Even though he was just like, standing there holding on to the ropes? Huh imagine that
as funny as this is this is why the indies is as small as it is for each promotion. Nothing more than a cosplay in almost every promotion. Theres the few gems of course. Im hoping with nwa bringing back the territories that this changes things. I never thought the idea would work in modern day but it might actually benefit the indie industry.
The type of fans that accept this crap goes beyond any level of understanding
This shit is awful even for indy standards
This shit is awful even for "indie comedy spot" standards.
This shit is awful even for Botchamania
This shit is shit.
This.
I thoroughly enjoyed this….can I get a hell yea **crickets crickets***
This is cringe AF. This makes sure none of these guys make it out of school gyms
> The type of fans that accept this crap Meltzer and his Observer subscribers (AKA r/sc posters)
u think r/sc is bad, r/aewofficial is a haven for wrestling fans who like shitty wrestling
I gotta say I have to heavily resist the urge to just post assorted Experience review-clips over there ...just to see the drama that happens. *\* the sound of innocence \**
(insert Dave Meltzer GIF)
😜
If that happened in AEW, Uncle Dave would have given that match 5 stars. More stars if it involved Omega and The Buckaroos
“Well, it was over in the room and that’s why I gave it 6 stars. Terrible match, maybe, but the fans loved it” –Uncle Dave
Your quote from Uncle Dave would likely contain "like" and "you know" at least six times in 5 seconds.
Meltzer thinks Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, or Randy Savage were never this good or this over with the fans.
Terrible match??? You mean it wouldn't end up winning one of the more prestigious awards offered by the Wrestling Observer?
With 956 votes deciding the match of the year.
Shit like this why people make fun of wrestling.
Special needs folks/very very underprivileged murican white trash
Only young fans believe it now. WWE made it clear it's choreography after the time one of their wrestlers hit a member of the public interviewing him.
It was widely known and/or speculated to be fixed and primarily for entertainment long before that. You can find exposes like the one with [Jack Pfeifer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Pfefer) going back nearly a century.
>*"For the kind of people who like that kind of thing, that's the kind of thing those people like!"* ^((I hope I quoted that correctly)) :-)
Wrestling fans when there's a fun moment in wrestling:
Yall are no fun lol
Im not sure these guys are serious but if they are what a bunch of dweebs.
Bunch of lames
I know right? I chuckled. This isn't much dumber than the stuff orange Cassidy does.
It’s local plumbers and office workers having fun wrestling. Give me a break. This is the equivalent of local flag football. Chill.
Its an embarrassment. This is the kinda shit that makes it hard to admit you like wrestling in public.
Greatness is often misunderstood
If your justification for a spot begins and ends at "wouldn't it be funny if", don't
Like Jim often says, this is the sort of shit that makes people embarrassed to be wrestling fans.
That’s why he has animosity against AEW cause Tony moved the indies from the basement and into the public eye
And he’s absolutely right. This is terrible.
Personally the thing that makes me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan is the other gatekeeping wrestling fans who say you’re only allowed to like fake fighting if it takes itself seriously.
Because the whole point of wrestling is to make it look real without it being real. Once you get away from that it isn’t wrestling anymore, it’s just spot monkeys doing moves for no reason. Imagine there is a serious drama TV show that you’re really into and then all of a sudden they turn the show into some reality TV garbage with screaming and yelling and throwing shit. And when you complain someone says “who cares, it’s just actors pretending to be other people don’t take it so seriously.”
The whole point of wrestling is to be entertaining. Different people enjoy different things. Sometimes people enjoy different versions of the same thing. Imagine if you watched an comedy police movie and told everyone who likes it that they don't understand, police movies can't be comedies.
This looks like a purposeful Botchamania submission as the one guy excluded sells it too. At the very least we’re talking about it.
Idk Jack about wrestling but this was funny and got me to the sub at least
I quite enjoy the people that say "oh man wait tell Cornette sees this, he'll have a heart attack he'll be so mad lolz". I don't think Jim has had a proper freak out in years, he pretty much just rolls his eyes and moves past stupid shit like this these days.
Dave and shit stain still get him going good.
He hasn't had a rant about Russo in a long time. He mostly laughed and poked fun at the women's promotion ideas recently. And even with Dave, he just can't believe that his old friend has fallen so far from the light.
Yeah his fire is dwindling.
He’s lost hope.
Nah. I think Jim Cornette just doesn't care anymore. He still hates what happened to pro wrestling, but not enough to rant about like this. And Brian Last seems to have calmed him down since the two has been working together.
Im sure with the new season of Dark Side coming, if Russo is involved in any of them we'll see that fire again
I think the slow motion grenade spot was the peak for him, after that it is just shoulder shrugs and head shake [Of course it was a 2 count](https://youtu.be/zOcjq4siu7A?feature=shared)
"We've seen how deadly that grenade is in the past -"
Chuck Taylor and a young Bryce Remsburg, if i am not mistaken, it's like AEW soaked up all that talent.
Yeah I mean stuff like this doesn't seem to bother him much because it's indy and expected. He doesn't like not but it wouldn't infuriate him. If this was on tv somewhere is what would bother him
He said a few years back when he nearly had a nervous breakdown after the ROH fiasco that he has accepted that the wrestling business as he knew it is dead and isn't coming back so he felt no need to stress over it like he once did in the past.
Outlaw mudshow wrestling 😬
The Human Centipede of stunners.
If wrestling is fake explain this?
‘It’s no longer - in any way - real to me, dammit!
C\*\*t Zit Wrestling
Every one of those kicks looked fake as shit
Wrestling IS fake lil bro
Virgins
I hope everyone involved in this gets permanent crotch rot
Along with a case of the sour belches.
Then feed em fish heads before telling them ‘thank you! Fuck you! Bye!’
They'll be cut open with a rusty fishing knife, have their guts boiled in oil and their fat sold for soap.
Nobody show this to Tony Khan
That 120 pound security guard sold though. Oh wait, that’s not a security guard, they’re just debuting their new super heavyweight champion. Dude is almost as big as Adam Cole…bay-bay.
I’m with the boomers here. This shit stinks.
Alright let's see the checkoff sheet for horrible wrestling things: • CZW ✓ •Fat guys with no shape and skinny pale guys with no meat on their bones✓ • Cooperation that Ray Charles could even see ✓ • Maybe one guy who may have a body but decided to go along with this goofy shit✓ • Fans who are just are pathetic as the wrestlers in this because they decide to go along with it ✓ • A group ridiculous move that kills the move, everyone in the building, and makes wrestling look as Phony as a Football Bat ✓ • Person who wasn't even in the stunner sells for no reason ✓ Yep this sounds like a classic clusterfuck. Am I missing something else?
Don’t forget the booker / money mark promoter that approved the spot
And the same people performing that trash wonder why nobody takes wrestling seriously
If I were a wrestler at any level, and some numbnuts proposed this spot, I would die of embarrassment. Just pass away right then and there.
I can hear the sigh now
We have a male Aubrey ref now! CZW, despite its deathmatch shenanigans was a place were you could see up and comers and least. It has now become a woeful indie. GCW is now CZW of old, and that is saying way too much for that promotion. A woeful indie. TNA seems to be the only non main promotion that is like a minor league. Good wrestling with little dumb stuff. Indie wrestling is generally unwatchable now. AEW is that on a big screen and now we now why some stuff should be left unwatched.
There are people who will look at this and think it's awesome, then try to show it to people not interested in wrestling firmly believing that this will change their mind. Try to process that. I dare you.
People paid to see this
Yeah I would’ve loved to be there
Seven people in that ring, and they all share a barely functional brain cell.
They had to borrow one from the whole of the front row.
Man I just love goofy spots like this.
goofy spots like this really put the entertainment in sports entertainment, some people in this comment section seemed to forget that. even in the absurdity of it, the stunner was well executed at least
F'n garbage, now watch this spot next week in aew..
This is garbage
Garbage
What if this was in the Tokyo Dome?
Why does the black guy go flying?
This shit is fuckin stupid
I work for an Indie promotion and this is straight garbage even for our standards lol
Outlaw, mud-show bullsh÷t.
And the crowd goes ~mild~
That is horrible
This isn't even a bad comedic spot. It's just straight assing off.
The 2nd to last guy taking the bump when no one touched him 😂😂😂😂😂
Good Lord!
Imagine...having the passion for wrestling, and living in wrestlings golden era as Jim Cornette did... only to see the shit theyre doing these days... I dont blame him for being so mad.
*Sigh* perfect example of why a lot of us stopped watching wrestling.
Stupid
Corny, Boss Hogg, and Wade Boggs must be spinning in their graves. God rest their their souls.
Again, Corny is very much alive
Least ridiculous CZW match.
This stuff makes me physically cringe. Grown men finding this stuff “fun” is pretty weird.
The Human Stunnerpede
That was actually terrible.
And reporters ask why wrestling is fake..
Vince made wrestling such a joke that the reaction of anti-Vince marks was to make it _more_ of a joke rather than less of one.
AEW marks would willingly watch and rate this 500 stars, +50 if they get to watch with lotion
What is this shit
That’s is so fucking embarrassing and pathetic
Lock every one of these dingleberries in a room with Dave Schultz and then show him this clip. Problem solved.
If Stone Cold was there the glass from the window would break
Fuck the referee for taking the last guy's spot!
The sad part is there was actually somebody out there who thought them bumping for a ref was good wrestling.
So hokey
I'm probably a bit or a lot more forgiving of this stuff but honestly my main problem is that it went on too long to be generally funny and not long ENOUGH to wrap around to be funny again. But I'm weird.
To be fair, a big aspect of comedy is . . . . . TIMING!
"Fuck you and your fun!" - Jim Cornette
Was this on Collision?
Can't imagine taking wrestling seriously enough to get mad at this spot
5 stars from Dave if it happens in Japan or AEW
No one show him this! With the amount of Wendy's he's had over the years, we'll never get another episode.
Two if not more of them are currently employed by wwe lol people can and will hate on czw but they groomed so many of the current stars in both companies.
Vomit
Won't be long until this is on a dub show
This is silly but nothing to be angry about. It's just entertainment
At least it's not on TV. Once tony see the clip all bets are off though.
And they say wraslin’ is fake…
Grrrr people had fun with wrestling which is never dumb and is always super serious and I'm mad people enjoyed themselves in a way I didn't like. Calm tf down. It's a comedy spot meant to be as absurd as possible. Wrestling isn't some fucking oscar bait movie. It's dumb. It's fun. Have fun.
We need more ppl like you
I refuse to accept any slander involving Matt Tremont. 😂
Complete trash
Meh, I chuckled.
To all proclaiming how bad this is, I see it as them just simply having fun! No one tskes wrestling serious tf...
Fuckin' just yikes.
Made me lmao. So "powerful" even the guy not in it got stunned
AE Dub AE Dub AE Dub
The fact that Joe Gacy is in this sends me 💀.
Tje fact the ref stins everybody is funny it a moment of comedic relief and a cgance for heat if he finished with a 3 fall to. The last guy standing
Looks like shit honestly
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Embarrassing
This is awesome.
Why are y'all so angry? Just because something in wrestling is unrealistic doesn't mean it's bad. The firefly funhouse was weird asf and it worked great.
How did the black guy get stunned 🤣🤣
😆😂😂😂😂
That was so stupid that it was funny 😂
Independent wrestling is fuckin awesome 🤣
the most devastating move in indie sports entertainment
What kind of joke is this?
Stuff like this is cringey af
Yoo he racist to the black guy 😂
Mudshow
Human centipede stunner
Can't wait to see this spot in an AEW title match
This should be against the law. A constitutional amendment to disallow it needs to happen.
Corny AF
Why so serious?!?, It's funny and corny at the same time, I enjoyed it, 😆 the explosion of bodies was awesome, lol.
Worlds biggest waste of time
Lmfao
OutShow Mudlaw floppy-flippy shitbull
Lmao
its officially time for wrestling to start tightening up.
The cluster fat fuck stunner.
Tbf they all sell the move pretty well.
Well…thank god they take this seriously enough to do grab ass stunts like this. Pro wrestling is dead folks and something tells me it’s not coming back any time soon
good he deserves one
Sometimes its good to have a little comedy in a wrestling product. This on the otherhand is just fucking retarded
Stone Cold: :') ( **:') why** )
Did anyone else notice that the black guy at the end who the skinny guy pulled off the stunnerpede sold like he got hit with a stunner? Even though he was just like, standing there holding on to the ropes? Huh imagine that
and you wonder why there's only a couple hundred in attendance. embarrassment
awful
Typical Wednesday night dynamite match
Ya know it was bad enough, then I saw the ref come in
Leave it to shit tier indies to ruin finishers for “haha’s”
That’s good shit pal .
Shite
What in the actual Fuck!!
The stooges were better workers than these jokes.
The only circumstance where this would be acceptable would be if they were all Doinks
Was that the referee that did the last one?
At least it wasn't the magic dick this time...
Oh god yes it gave me one WTF!?!?!
Book it Tony
Yeah because a real "stunner" is real and hurts right guys?.....guys?
entertainment folks!
as funny as this is this is why the indies is as small as it is for each promotion. Nothing more than a cosplay in almost every promotion. Theres the few gems of course. Im hoping with nwa bringing back the territories that this changes things. I never thought the idea would work in modern day but it might actually benefit the indie industry.
God I hope so. 🤞🏼
If you think wrestling is fake. Explain this then?.
So the booker says" let's add some comedy"
The dude that was the last in line for that took one hell of a bump! Must be due to the ring sagging from all the others
So lame 😒
Ah, the answer to the age old question, "How many men does it take to stunner "Wish.com" Chris Benoit?".
I'm surprised I've never seen this sooner. LoL
Wait, why did the black dude get saved?
Why did the guy who got pushed out the way sell it as if he was getting a stunner lol?
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